YES! It makes no sense that merely having FEELINGS for another cat is breaking the healer code? 😭 like that's completely 100% unavoidable if it happens 😭🙏🙏

@LostSoulEzura

4 ай бұрын

You can say that agin

@Tune.animation

3 ай бұрын

Yo shells

Remember in OotS when Firestar had the good idea to have every warrior learn basic medical skills and herb knowledge? This could've freed up medicine cats from having to treat the entire clan by themselves, but still be the primary healer. But apparently it was impossible for warriors to remember even the simplest use of herbs. So many problems in this series seem to stem from the characters being dumb as bricks.

@5rcane

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. I

@Naturegirl9

3 ай бұрын

I know that wcue is on roblox but it makes my so mad when medicine cat can't do there job and am that one kit that helps more then the medicine cat or their app 😂

@JustDuckiest

2 ай бұрын

Warriors knowing basic herbs is so important, maybe Squirrelstar will bring it back lol. Y'all don't ALWAYS have a medicine cat with you. Everyone should know basic herbs

I feel like medicine cat's should have both a mate and kits. The rule should be kinda like how to have kits after the medicine cat has fully trained an apprentice. They can have a mate before hand. I feel like this could work, so while the one med cat caring for her kits in the nursery, the other can take on the medicine cat duties. I really do find it stupid that medicine cats can't gave nether a mate nor kits.

@mothss.

4 ай бұрын

Yes! This makes a lot of sense

The case of medicine cats made no sense, even when I was just beginning to read the books. If the hypothetical scenario was you had to choose between your clan or kits, the medicine cat would choose kits. But siblings and other platonic relatives would still exist, and then the medicine cat would feel more entitled to them. Also, spending sixteen minutes gathering herbs and sixteen minutes to nurse kits aren't that different, as it's not like the entire clan will die if your away doing something for an hour. Also, what if a male cat is medicine cat. They don't have to nurse kits? Another point is, what if the cat just doesn't want kits, but still falls in love? Alderheart and Velvet was a thing, and it never resulted in kits. Twigbranch and Finleap are mates, but Twigbranch consciously decided never to have kits, so it is possible. A much better medicine cat rule for kits would be, no to have kits unless you have a fully trained apprentice to do the work. It would be good practice for them, to see how they could keep the clan held together and how they manage helping a queen give birth. Sorry if that was long, I just really needed to get my opinion out there

Quick answer: YES.

I kinda wish that medicine cats code and what they do at meetings was a secret. I also feel medicine cats should be able to have kits! Most clans almost aways had 2 medicine cats and one could take over when the other is taking care of the kits!

A medicine cat should be allowed to have a mate or kits. Bffr, loving someone isn’t going to suddenly cause a medicine cat to get SOOOO distracted that they don’t do their duties. Just because a medicine cat-or anyone for that matter, has a partner, also doesn’t mean they’ll automatically have children. Even if they did, clan cats are notorious for helping raise/babysit kits. Ex: Permanent queens like Ferncloud and Daisy. I’m sure taking a few moments to raise their kids for only 6 months won’t cause the clan to “crumble” from disease or injuries lmao. On top of that, there’s been more than one medicine cat per clan. We even had freaking three. I’m sure everything will be okay when a medicine cat has to take 6 months off to focus on their family while another fully capable medicine cat takes over. The family bias thing is stupid. Medicine cats have family members besides their offspring. Parents, uncles, aunts, siblings, they could have a personal bias with any one of their kin/close buddies. And whoever dares to reply with “ Oh, but Mothflight-“ don’t bother. She couldn’t focus/pay attention on anything for the life of her. The authors made it apparent in her super edition. If she struggled to babysit Slate’s kits (which she wasn’t even a medicine cat at the time), then she sure as hell would obviously struggle with her own. On top of that, she was the only medicine cat in her clan anyway. Using Mothflight as an example to support the idea of medicine cats not having a mate or kits is a pretty weak argument. None of the problems presented with Mothflight apply anymore regardless. Things changed. On top of that, it’s just plain wrong. Imagine telling somebody they aren’t allowed to have basic feelings or a family, especially medicine cats, who go through a lot already. They constantly have to feel the pressure of a cat’s life being on their paws, even those they care about. They always have prophecies that are mostly about the doom of the clans. No wonder they feel so isolated from their clan mates all the damn time. Please. Let them be happy.

i always thought the healer code was kinda dumb even as a little kid like what are they supposed to do just not fall in love? its not like you could stop that

I feel like they should definitely be able to have a mate, like, you can date someone without having kits??

@kevinkitt8140

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, like, they could have a mate, but they can’t have kits, and can’t favour their mate over their clan. I figure that’d be better, because every single medicine cat would be really lonely, relationship wise, especially because medicine cats watch so many cats die because they couldn’t save them, I think a mate who would help around the medicine cat would be nice, for company and less stress.

@5rcane

3 ай бұрын

That’s definitely true, but accidents happen

YES, if the code must be there, make it so that a med cat can have kits as long their is another fully trained healer there, or almost fully trained, and the medicine cats have other close family members, do they not think a cat would stress over healing a parent or sibling, or want to heal them first before other cats? I dont see why they cant have kits

i'm making my own warriors inspired universe, my healer code looks like this at the moment: 1 - A healer must care for all lives equally 2 - Colony boundaries don't matter as long as it is to protect others 3 - A healer must not neglect a cat in need even if that means asking help from other colonies 4 - Healers must not deny help to other healers unless that action can potentially cause harm to their own colony 5 - The will of [[The Spirits of The Rising Moon]] (aka starclan) must be obeyed unless it causes any type of harm to any cat, including the healer in question 6 - Healers may have mates and kits as long as there is another fully trained healer to take their place during the period where the kits are born and until they're 8 moons old 7 - Healers are excused from their duties during the time where their kits are born until they're 8 moons old unless there's a serious emergency (this includes healers who can't have kits) 8 - Healers are the life-line of a colony, therefore they must be taken care of before anyone else *Any healer can suggest new rules or ask to remove a rule at the full moon meeting, if more than half of them agree, the new rule is added or the old one is revoked and no longer considered, all the healers must state their votes during the council's meeting*

I genuinely didn't know that medicine cats could retire because it literally never happens. Maybe the intended solution was to have medicine cats retire if they wanted to have kits but that just never happened?

I want to see a boy med cat who had kits or a evil one

@user-zh7gl6yy7t

4 ай бұрын

Me too evil med cat

@Kensuke22

4 ай бұрын

Evil med cat evil med cat

@5rcane

3 ай бұрын

People say Hawkheart is an evil medicine cat but I disagree

I personally think that medicine cats should be aloud to have mates and kits, as long as there's another healer

I’m a tad late, but yes, they need to either change the medicine cat code or toss it out entirely. It makes. No. Sense! If the medicine cat has an apprentice or more help and they want a mate and kits, that second medicine cat can take over while the first takes care of their kits. Not only that, it would limit a lot of the cousins thing people are worried about a lot. I have an OC story where medicine cats are actually allowed to have kits and a mate, but only within the Clan, because cats are still foggy/uncertain about half-Clan relationships.

typing this comment before watching the video, so sorry if i kinda repeat the things 4rcane said. i think that it should DEFINITELY be changed. the medicine cats should be able to have mates and kits, like every other cat. but i think i can agree that if they have to take care of their kits, injured cats might be at higher risk. to solve that, i think meds should be able to have kits if they have an apprentice or another medicine cat who can take over their duties when they need to care for their kittens. but having a mate should be completely ok- warriors have mates and its not like they get nothing done because of it, so why would it be different with meds?

Warrior code: You may not be able to have kits/or a mate cus reasons EVERY MED CAT IN EXISTENCE: what the hell does that mean? *continues to have like 1000 kits, 999 of them die*

Yes because how would them haveing a mate distract them? Sure there mate will visit them but that’s when they or their mate aren’t busy! And if there are two medicine one should be able to have kits and if they are needed right away a queen can babysit for a while

when i saw the spreadsheet i was like "wait- alderheart? when did he- OH, yeah, velvet"

Just a small correction: Mudfur chose to be a medicine cat and is Leopardkits father, not Mudclaw. I do agree with some of the medicine code but the kit/falling in love rule is. S T U P I D. Hopefully Frostpaw kicks butt in the newest arc and lets Mothwing be a lesbian.

i hope they do somehing in series 9, or maybe they'll change it by the end of star idk

Mothers are very protective and want their kits so I don’t think transferring their kits to another clan would be the best solution.

mudfur* mudclaw was a windclan deputy who got mad at onestar becoming leader

This is kinda unrelated, but I always thought that the reason medicine cats cannot have a mate or kits is to be similar to clergy (who have to stay celibate). also mudfur becoming a medicine cat while he had kits was always stupid to me. I’m glad someone’s talking about it

Brightwater: yes please, I wanna date my black (furred) Wifu Hollyfern please

Ayo I'm early!

The medicine cat code is just freaking bs

ehh im a traditonalist-if I was a clan cat id probably be the mousefur on this topic lmao. i generally feel as if the rules that they have shouldnt chnage but that is mostly because I feel like they didnt fully expand on why the whole medicine cats need to stay alone all their lives. there is a spiritual aspect to that but its not one that is so easily explained by the books and so most people rightfully see it as a dumb rule there just cause some floozy hundreds of cat generations ago couldnt keep it together for her kits and do her job.

I feel like it’s meant to be like “the clan is their kits, they should focus on duty’s alone.”

I think the healer code is a bit unnecessarily strict about relationships. You should be able to have a mate. lthough I honestly think forbidding kits is a valid rule since the medicine cat still needs to be focused on their job.

I do not agree you should remove the code. I do agree that medvone cats should b3 able to have a family butit ads more drama and i love medcine cat forbidden romance like neetletail and alderheart

No they need medicine

@Coocoocrazytoysreviews

4 ай бұрын

There are so many things wrong with this. Like it’s rules for medicine cats and overall the first 2 should become one rule where only a male medicine cat or a medicine cat with a good enough apprentice can have a mate and kits then the final 2 rules should be like first tell the leader and starclan and stuff and then if they decide its good then tell the whole clan also some rules should be addrd