Drill may not cause the violence but it is definitely a catalyst nobody can deny that
@redbeard31226 жыл бұрын
Poet is so jarring sometimes. Can't have a conversation without raising his voice & waving his hands like a woman
@TariqAmazin
6 жыл бұрын
loool
@quaay2129
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would say i'm a fan of his on this show but the guy needs to be more open minded sometimes if he does not agree he brands your argument as ridiculous which has made me respect chuckie a lot more as he is very sensible when he is debating
@siobhharper87
6 жыл бұрын
Does this have anything to do with him being mixed?
@redbeard3122
6 жыл бұрын
LikkleUZI 100% chucky plays devils advocate which allows the debate to progress. Imagine a debate between 2 poets
@BigPurp9
6 жыл бұрын
He pisses me off but I’ve got to be honest I agree with pretty much all he said here. It’s just the manner he uses to get his point across that’s annoying
@1mrperfect2476 жыл бұрын
drill music plays a role in violence. it doesn't guarantee you will kill or hurt someone, but it does have INFLUENCE on some of the young boys mind. you can say drill music never made me kill anyone, but there are boys out there who really want to live the drill music they are speaking about.
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 people said the same thing about rock, hip hop, rap and video games. Violence is not "influenced" by anything but your living standards and situations you were put in
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
most drill music is not positive and it portrays violence that they really live by
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 so why does Rap and Metal get a pass now? It sure didn't get a pass 20 years ago
@WHIPLASHVideosTBT
6 жыл бұрын
and you think these kids weren't doing that stuff before drill existed? fucking hell use your brain
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
using your logic, smoking in videos has an influence on the smoking rate, violent video games have an influence on violent crime etc. Explain how the violent crime rate was higher back in 03-06 when there was no drill then?
@MixtapeMadnessOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Same issue has been persistent in our communities for decades, long before Drill music. Poet is right, if you want to solve an issue then tackle the root issue. Knife crime is a massive concern and needs addressing but it must addressed in its correct context. Especially when stats show more people die from domestic violence, stats also show more people die from alcohol related causes. Here is the context and a few points to consider: 1. Youth violence in council estates has been an issue long before Drill music. In most estates youth violence was an issue long before these youths were born 2. November last year the Economist highlighted that cocaine supply and demand in the UK had increased. Yet drug abuse rehabilitation units had decreased. This highlights the decrease in the opportunity cost of engaging in this sort of crime, especially in socially deprived areas. 3. Wider society further alienating itself from working class youth. Love it or loathe it, the 1011 freestyle amassed over 11.5 million views in under 6 months. It went viral with videos of it being played in university lectures, raves and vehicles across the land. That level of engagement predominantly amongst young people, illustrates that they are regarded as talented amongst their peers and have a narrative many can connect too. Drill music is one of the only open forms of insight that wider society get into inner city street youth culture in London. To lose this insight merely means the culture goes into darker underworld. When an artist does well on our platform we usually assist in helping them take their career in a more professional direction and help transition them to a better way of life. Deterring them from doing music on KZread cuts this connection. All videos that have been removed are already on Pornhub. The fact that Tommy Robinson's KZread is active, speaks volumes with regards to KZread's community guidelines and our legal systems attitude to content that many ethnic minorities feel incite racism. We are simply denying these youth from doing what Skepta and Wiley did generations ago. Meanwhile significantly more violent US rap videos remain viewable within the UK. 4. When discussing moped and other crimes, police cuts are the focus so why so why isn't it a prevailing factor in this instance? The irony here is that the police themselves have regarded Drill music as providing a valuable insight. As far back as the Mangrove 9, even further back to the Cardiff riots, we know that our communities (inner-city black), have poor relations with the police. Events last week further eroded relations. Surely a more positive message would have been what I had proposed above in terms of calling a meeting with all the relevant stakeholders and reaching a solution. UK black culture and music for the last half a century has always appeared to have been at odds with the police in some shape or form. It feels like being seen as reactive trumps actually being progressive 5. We meet some scientist don who explained the importance of understanding teenage hormones. Understanding teenage hormones in the working class, inner city context and understanding their outlook on manhood, survival and society at large. Usually many in their mid-20s tend to calm down. Point being biological factors should as also be factored into the equation. 6. Differentiating between actual violent content on social media and music videos is important. As platforms we are still learning and figuring out ways to vet content without compromising creativity. None of the support or condone videos of people actually humiliating and/or violently attacking others or themselves. Its important to distinguish between two 7. In terms of racialising the issue. A few years back the Joseph Rowntree Foundation reported that 80% of Black African Caribbean people live below the poverty line. Studies also show this racial group is disproportionately criminalised by the criminal justice system. This has been their reality for decades. Grime generation had raves locked off and track banned, So Solid similar narrative, Smiley Culture even spoke on the issue etc etc etc 8. Education support and benefit cuts to working class families. Latch key kids, the streets play a massive part in our upbringing We have a stronger connection than most to this generation, our generation. We are open to help address the issue but not at the expense of silencing a generation.
@aidentv23
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you say but whats tommy robinson got to do with DRILL.KZread policy? there banning that guy soon his shit gets taken down too drill incites violence I had to reply to ur comment as I feel your a big part in this by having people on your platform wearing balaclavas acting like they are gangbangers from Chicago shouting gang gang which is embarrassing and u know kids are watching!.I love uk rap but over the past few years it's slowly turning into a circus act. This gang shit has to be eradicated from the music for the next generations sake
@aidentv23
6 жыл бұрын
speaking as a brit!
@KateCameron16 жыл бұрын
Poet is soooo I extra
@seanbrown2361
6 жыл бұрын
KateCameron1 very extra
@LdotHatfield
6 жыл бұрын
i agree, but this time hes actually talking sense. more time he is very extra but thats just him init.
@ClarkePerformance916 жыл бұрын
Poet wasn't about in the hood, he was the quiet timid kid who everyone thought was gay and only hung around with girls.
@elliottburtonshaw70816 жыл бұрын
Poet huffing like a bish does me in
@MrJvandal6 жыл бұрын
Poet just talks waffle. "...Christopher Columbus is the most glorified criminal in the whole wordl!" Wtf does a 15th century, Italian explorer have to do with UK drill music being taken down from KZread in 2018?
@DaaPoetry
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness 😂
@enosger
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness Portuguese, Christopher Columbus was Portuguese, also he was a drill pioneer back in ye olde days
@MrJvandal
6 жыл бұрын
I mean, he may have been big in the drill scene but he was definitely Italian.
@ronaldoscott8689
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness Exactly he has a massive ego and loves the sound of his own voice.
@eggfriedreus793
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness he probably just came across his Wiki page before the recording 😂
@YoungMrD296 жыл бұрын
Poet lives in a bubble were he thinks what he wants and does not want no one to correct him thats it. He see’s himself as right and never wrong thats the dumbest mindset Drill effect drillers I don’t know about others
@seanbrown2361
6 жыл бұрын
Creme I agree with this point 💯
@kqvinhd19986 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Tyler the Creator is still banned from the UK from 2009 homophobic lyrics despite coming out himself so why trust the police with Spotify and YT content?
@WarrenPaulWilliams
6 жыл бұрын
not true i went to see shady at wembley and he was opening act with most of odd future and danny brown
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
Warren Williams Tyler was banned from the UK in 2015 and is still banned, t's an easy google search bro
@WarrenPaulWilliams
6 жыл бұрын
i saw him 2014
@1mrperfect2476 жыл бұрын
Poet has passion for music and it is why i understand why he has the views he has, but he is being ignorant if he thinks that music such as drill music has no influence. influence is not the tool that does the crime like a knife or gun but such as alcohol or hard drugs, it is used to create a problem. What is wrong to do is say you shouldn't find ways to sort out a problem just because other influences are not sorted out. poverty is an influence that allows people to be violent, but it doesn't mean rich people aren't violent too. But we know poverty has an influence in violences in poverty towns.
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
show me a study that shows a positive correlation between violent crime in the UK & the increase in drill videos.
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
are you aware of how many drill artists have a criminal record, based on violence?
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 How does a drill artist having a criminal record influence violent crime?
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
i never said it does. drill music has created rival gangs and are being violent to each other. i just want to know what drill music represent because to me there isn't anything positive about it
@bigmoneysteppa
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 nope he has a passion for hanging around music,sport art pretty much anything so he can get paid to talk about it. Dude is the definition of a bred.
@redrum44866 жыл бұрын
Some young kids are of course influenced by drill content.. it is music which is basically influential. Look at how many people were inspired to drink lean from Lil Wayne, Future, Pimp C, Gucci Mane, all the shit we buy because of what artists wear.... why do you think brands sponsor artists.. because music is influential lol
@HIQ456 жыл бұрын
K koke got arrested before wireless years ago and it was one of the causes of him getting dropped by roc nation
@jordanhd34556 жыл бұрын
Poet we don’t care about we’re your from🤔😂 stop telling us
@alexlorenzo2936 жыл бұрын
Removing people’s art shouldn’t be tolerated
@dailyc8463
6 жыл бұрын
"Ejaculate in her mouth or pull out ejaculate on her breasts" #art "Bro made you drink that acid that day how the fuck can you still be alive" #art
@serkantabak2458
6 жыл бұрын
Art is subjective, someone painting a turd is still art.
@serkantabak2458
6 жыл бұрын
This is something i agree with in principal, but the problem is Neo-Nazis have their own art aswell (Just bringing up the worst group) and so a company is well within their rights to ban a genre of music or supress an artist for any reason they want. You can criticize it but you shouldnt be able to stop a company from doing so.
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
Daily C that's just your interpretation in my opinion that is art.
@gostz6839
5 жыл бұрын
Daily C 1011 is art :))
@stannos4996 жыл бұрын
today on another episode of the poet show
@KealSpeaks6 жыл бұрын
Removing Drill videos from KZread and Spotify etc is an immediate solution to one aspect of the problem, how can Poet not think that's positive? You do what you can where you can. It's a lot easier to do that than to focus SOLELY on the larger socioeconomic issues that lead kids to that life. Spotify and KZread have the right idea! People who teach you how to clean knives after "using them" don't deserve a platform, profits or promotion. *shrug*
@bilalaziz8669
6 жыл бұрын
KealSpeaks big up for being honest bro. You've put it perfectly 👌
@12tribes61
6 жыл бұрын
KealSpeaks real talk these pagans protecting the killers
@firerasjay6 жыл бұрын
Poet gets so hype but when real bad man are around he is quiet🤐
@moaliize6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel poet genuinely believes only black people have gone through a struggle. Blood black white asain we are all 2nd 3rd generation and we all have struggled. Poet might have been in the hood due to his parents but he hasn’t been IN THE HOOD or involved in crud. HE WENT TO THEATRE SCHOOL. FFS!
@mistermarbels93936 жыл бұрын
Yeah but back in your day it wasn't as bad as this Poet. Drill glorifies stabbing/violence, gassing these yutes like it's normal to kill. Lets not forget the internet, back in the day you could send for another man but not shout you're going to poke man up, or make up shit like you stabbed/shot him and he ran away. Yutes nowadays see red if they get mocked by another man on the internet, smearing ones reputation is on-sight business to dem. For some of these man think they can just jump on 1 instrumental, talk bad about doing madness and end up in sticky situations not understanding the consequences. they all sound the same anyways, itz ded.
@tombrown15156 жыл бұрын
poet shouting the same thing over chuckie or snipz half the time, at least have a convo
@Bradley8606572896 жыл бұрын
poet forever being annoying lol
@calebkumiko94306 жыл бұрын
I have one thing to say about this: CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION.
@dadon99456 жыл бұрын
Listen. who in their right senses will tell a rapist to keep rapping about their acts, because as long as its in the music, then theres nothing wrong with it? Youre mad! Even if it doesnt influence anyone, you listening, and purchasing, basically supporting the music: Number 1: Normalizes the act Number 2: Makes the people talking about it feel its okay, and then they continue in the act ALSO, dont come with the "if they talk about it, then we know who is involved" talk. Because if those people were arrested, we will be the same people to say its unfair. Lets learn to praise good, and call bad bad. Let’s not be part of the problem. Disclaimer: I'm a black guy who lives in London
@JoshArtim
6 жыл бұрын
Da Don faaaam!
@quaay21296 жыл бұрын
Poet is so deluded on this topic and I generally agree with him/like him... It's scientificcally proven that music has an influence on on behaviour/releases certain hormones that adjust mood etc.. (hence why you go to the gym you have a certain playlist etc.. as it triggers mental and physical respones) besides that look at the impact music has on culture i.e Fasion etc... Young impressionable minds see the fuckery making it more acceptable to try attain that lifestyle as it seems as these guys are getting away with making serious money. Imagine the reponse Malcom X would have given to this type of music talking about killing your own kind... People using heavy metal as an example and why they aint killing (Heavy metal does not talk about killing eachother u fools it's more darkness/emo culture not fucking killing eachother. just look at the way those guys dress/the fans look and see the impact that music culture has had on them (goth emo culture). Music is not the main cause of the violence, poverty is however it does not help the root cause only further confusing these kids. we are talking subconcious level conditioning you muppets, it's a very powerful thing that picks up everything absorbing that information has a big influence. If you knew anything you would know about marketing and how they use the subconcious to trigger behaviour paying millions for studies to be done on subconcious behaviour. Anybody that's studied psychology will tell you about music and the power it has. (My aunt PHD in Psychology/Subconcious behaviour patterns) would destory all these foolish arguments.
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Facts !! I got started on listening to metal wrong time to start on somebody
@wjs75066 жыл бұрын
"No one can quantify against my argument" - Said Poet every week
@abenaa806 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the concept of what Poet is saying when he says I'm tired of hearing that the cause of violence is due to some teenagers listening to this so-called drill music but WHY does he have'to be so emotional about it ??????????????? Bruh cant have a normal conversation without getting all menopausal and S#@T,, Lol
@darealalessandro70646 жыл бұрын
I cant believe people are takin this argument seriously! Maybe drill does influence the youth, but not to the same extent as other much bigger factors like poverty, lack of oppurtunity etc. If drill music was illegal (not sure how that could happen) then violent crime would still occur. I think only people who are not involved in that lifestyle or dont live around those areas think music is a serious factor.
@enosger
6 жыл бұрын
Alessandro Caporizzo I must disagree most killings are happening in London, if you can’t make it there you can’t make it anywhere, of all the cities in the U.K. London has the most opportunity so how are these not trying a bit of hard work, there’s not excuses yes there’s poverty but Halifax has poverty as does Swansea or hull but I don’t see youth in those cities killing each other, as a black man I see a cultural problem not a social one those three cities I mentioned are full of deprived white youths why aren’t they killing each other, I think it’s to do with values and unfortunately our black youths value hip hop high fashion machismo and sex over living a real life. Let’s tackle at root cause and stop fooling ourselves, POET.
@Leonmorgan
6 жыл бұрын
then why is youth murder concentrated in inner cities where there are more opportunities and not in equally poor rural areas with much less opportunities ? if you can't or won't acknowledge that much of the causes are cultural factors and not economic then you're simply in a state of denial
@bilalaziz86696 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is people would rather protect drill artists and music than tackle the problem of violent crimes in the UK. Why can't people accept that banning drill and monitoring the effect that has on gang crime is a positive? If banning this talentless garbage leads to the streets being safer, why wouldn't it be acceptable to take that risk?
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
Doors of Perception rap takes the most talent to make than any music genre
@bilalaziz8669
6 жыл бұрын
WildenYT yep but you don't need much talent to make drill music. It's the same few words used in different combinations with nearly every rapper sharing a flow. There isn't anything revolutionary about drill as an art form. It'll be forgotten about just as quickly as it came up. Not one drill artist will have a legacy. In 10 years time nobody will be talking about these bummy weirdos.
@12tribes61
6 жыл бұрын
Doors of Perception facts
@CashRulesEveryth10006 жыл бұрын
Poet stop shouting bruh
@NuraM4446 жыл бұрын
poet can't deliver a message without being overly passionate and shouty honestly.. cba
@user-tn6fg2du6v6 жыл бұрын
Lol I think I might hate poet
@hannah600006 жыл бұрын
No Hoods in London, we need to stop taking American cultural experiences, and trying to make it our own. Endz, the block, the streets, etc. Just saying...
@Messi-nc4dz6 жыл бұрын
Stop saying trash, you’re not American
@2ndblock66a.w.o.l7
6 жыл бұрын
1010 Messi enit...pisses me of wen I hear English people talk like dat.sounds mad forced
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Total garbage
@kgamezhd93996 жыл бұрын
Chuckie advocates great debates 👊🏾
@konradcoyle78806 жыл бұрын
Being on KZread is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT! The government and police are not trying to ban Drill music. Why should certain gang affiliated drill acts determined to use drill music to promote crime be allowed to use popular platforms like KZread to promote their negativity?
@georgemilne24456 жыл бұрын
Is anybody saying that drill music is the root of the violence? Poet seems to think people are, but personally I haven't seen many, if any saying that
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
George Milne agree he moans like me on my period
@scratchydemus6 жыл бұрын
Snips is so smart and articulate when he speaks. Bring him on more often. You can tell Poet was jealous when Snips mentioned he is starting a Record label.
@marcoduplessis76086 жыл бұрын
The podcast of the century.. real life gang shiiit.. keep it up brethren..
@talentstreamer6 жыл бұрын
Poet is so close to being 100% right on this these things were happening before the music existed these kids are just talking about whats happening around them. We can't look at individuals but the root of the problem is the social economic circumstances these kids are growing up in. People don't want the root of the problem exposed to the drill audiences these guys are talking about because everyone will find out the truth soon
@russellsealey33636 жыл бұрын
Poet: "they just don't wanna see niggas gettin money" What type ahh fooolishness!! A man is getting money from promoting violence and talking about murdering a next man... why should he be allowed to make money from this?? Someone help me
@loma-uu5mg6 жыл бұрын
Poet is unlistenable. Needs a few valium to have a proper conversation or something. Also, doesn't "drill" basically mean to shoot or kill etc? Correct me if i'm wrong please. I know a bit about the Chicago scene but not too much about UK drill.
@mrlerye6 жыл бұрын
Man said" they dont wanna see young blacks get money" if so,I want to ask him,if his son(future son) sees a future in this would he let his child take the 101 steps(aka join a gang, talk ,eat and sleep about stabbing and so forth) to become a drill artist? I bet his answer will be NO..........
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
CAMDEN LONDON-TOWN facts Bro no parent would be sound with that
@TheFurchow4 жыл бұрын
drill is a symptom of a larger issue. materialism, getting social status thru violence, all that. u gotta solve them first. we pick on drill, but there's also been heavy metal, hollywood gangster movies etc edit: the guy actually just said this word for word mad
@natedaniels426 жыл бұрын
Chuckie is a user, he knows he is a lot smarter and far more cultured than Poet will ever be but he realises that Poet is more watchable than he is. I don't think it's fair to do a show with your disabled friend Chuckie.
@haarist24226 жыл бұрын
Honestly poet ruins these podcasts I prefer when he isn't on it
@TommyDidads6 жыл бұрын
I Love the way Poet thinks migrating will eradicate all life issues... U gotta rate dat still!
@donnervaix14366 жыл бұрын
Poet just proved himself wrong, and he knows it. If music and lyrics had no influence at all then why do people play slow jams when they're with a female? Cuz it sets the mood. So if you're rolling round in a hatchback all day doesnt listening to drill set the mood for violence? I can't stand people that are full of shit cuz they're fanboys
@CP-gq7en6 жыл бұрын
This podcast has so much potential for more views, but its difficult to even finish one video because of Poet. Poet needs to have his OWN podcast because he likes the sound of his own voice, and only cares for his OWN opinions. But there's no point trying to participate in a podcast which is supposed to DISCUSS issues when he just talking AT everyone and not listening. My ear drums literally feel like they are bursting. Poet is just too loud. Constant just shit talking just to be heard. URGH!!! Ape Worm!!!
@futgaming6 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for poets wife.. she gotta listen to this dude
@cfcbbrr98306 жыл бұрын
Poet waffling as per usual
@chishow71916 жыл бұрын
I think we should focus on the fact they cut funding for the police force and let go of thousands of officers in the UK. That may be one of the factors that link to an increase in crime. Also what of punk and some rock, do they promote destruction and rebellion? Maybe we should be holding politicians accountable instead of music.
@TRIDENT0000006 жыл бұрын
It's quite stupid ban drill in the UK when this genre is popular in America that's where it derived from
@thetruth26846 жыл бұрын
Drill music does not influence the listener. This genre only influences the individual rap groups to inflict violence on their rivals. Despite the fact they were doing this before the music.
@ablelagoon11106 жыл бұрын
Is poet gay?
@roadgetfrogoff4674
6 жыл бұрын
God Himself must be
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
He is
@akrai946 жыл бұрын
Poet seems to bring up Christopher Columbus for every discussion
@omosummer8406 жыл бұрын
I agree with Poet. People are too caught up in the leaves we'll never get to the root. Respectability politics has some ground i.e. Drill music can exasperate - wait for it - violence that already EXISTS.
@lewisclarke64586 жыл бұрын
give snipes a permanent seat
@coachcharlesdevelopment13645 жыл бұрын
Poet has a point but he is so stubborn that he doesn't want to see the other side of the coin. It's proven the music/videos you watch/listen too effects your mood. If all negative music and videos was removed crime would be down. The film Scareface influenced a lot of people to be a gangster, Drill music glorifies crime for the younger generation and people that relate will live that life.
@kgahir125 жыл бұрын
Poet went innnnnn
@mra.g26326 жыл бұрын
Poet is acting like a stereotypical Jamaican/English yout 😒
@WOEGEE6 жыл бұрын
Just because a person doesn't like something that mean no one should like it right?
@DaaPoetry6 жыл бұрын
Is Poet going to leave the planet or just carry on teasing
@solshields6 жыл бұрын
I actually pictured in my head this conversation and pictured in my head Snips response just a few hours before I saw this video and I thought Snips response would be the complete opposite. I bet he loves gangsta rap though... Blues was too dangerous because it was former slaves and they slurred their words, jazz was too dangerous because they were playing off key notes and the people were jiving to it in an unusual way. It wasn't seen as 'real music' of course as usual, whatever 'real music' is. Blues, jazz, rock, hip hop, rap, grime are only real music genres when people of a different complexion make it. Then it becomes acceptable. Lol watch when the first white drill rapper starts blowing, his songs will chart top ten and drill will lose it's taboo status 100%. P.S London isn't any more and is probably much less dangerous than it was 10 or 20 years ago.
@Tn-mr3pz
6 жыл бұрын
Sol Shields k koke?
@solshields
6 жыл бұрын
he's rap not drill, once K Koke and Benny Banks charted black rappers (not grime artist) like Giggs could start doing shows. K Koke even says in Listen Little Man "I was there when it started, I'm the reason you're an artist". Nines just done a UK tour, no way thats happenning 7 years ago before K Koke and Benny Banks charted.
@solshields
6 жыл бұрын
am 1 research it for yourself
@Keys13X6 жыл бұрын
POET IS DA TRUTH BLUD
@Xumaj6 жыл бұрын
The answer is simply no
@KudoWoo6 жыл бұрын
bro, all he said was he had enough of afro and drill which has been overly saturated, poet said leave us in our world like drill and afro represents the black people of UK... 4 eyed earthworm jim
@ImWhoIAmOk6 жыл бұрын
Yo, talk about the mist passa in your next one.
@michael435676 жыл бұрын
would police rather kids spend some of their time in a studio making music, or spending all their time in the streets because drill music is banned? Banning drill is basically blocking a pathway out the hood
@BigTone999
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Of course making music can be a good thing but why do these kids have to rap about negative things? Why can't they rap on positive stuff?
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
NewMusicPlusTv what because all music is positive? Punk Rock music doesn't talk about drugs & alcohol? Hip hop & RnB doesn't talk about sex & drugs? These kids have been brought up in poor neighbourhoods, where there's drugs & violence everywhere. But you expect them to rap about something positive smh. Be realistic
@BigTone999
6 жыл бұрын
Michael The whole genre of fiction is based on non factual stories, using the imagination to think up new stories, why does a writer have to be limited to his surroundings for material? If that was the case there would be no Marvel Universe, no Matrix etc...
@henchbellend-30435 жыл бұрын
%1000 drill music is a one of the reason of knife crime.Im 16 and I’ve seen so many people have been influence to do things because of listening to drill songs.Its like when king girls watch people like Kim Kardashian and others and want to go put makeup and want to have surgery on there body.Its an influence.Society has a way of giving people who have followers power and young teens are watching these people talk about I’m going to shank man up and go outside and see a guy look at them the wrong way and now it’s beef.Im not saying taking off KZread because some teens lives have changed because of it.
@benja3036 жыл бұрын
its weird how the gyal at 11:00 talked about the driller turned pastor but did not mention gospel drill.
@michael435676 жыл бұрын
no. It's not gonna reduce knife crime so why take down the vids? There are guys like AM x Skengdo, Loski, Headie One etc that aren't in the streets anymore & earn legal show money thanks to drill. No normal kid is gonna wanna stab someone because they saw a drill vid, they were gonna stab someone anyway. Drill music does more good than bad. (And these man are basically TELLING the police what's going on in their vids, taking down the vids is like feds saying "no we don't want this information, we don't want to arrest you for stabbing/shooting this person")
@bigmoneysteppa6 жыл бұрын
Poet is the original bred.
@bigmoneysteppa6 жыл бұрын
Can we go 15 mins without it getting racial?
@bigmoneysteppa
6 жыл бұрын
No.
@georgemilne24456 жыл бұрын
I think drill gives *some* of these guys on road an incentive to stay in that life longer than they otherwise would.
@donnervaix14366 жыл бұрын
You're talking about the people making the videos incriminating themselves, but the music has no link to crime? 🤔😒 I can see Chuckie struggling with poet, jheez 🤦🏾♂️
@raecharles54946 жыл бұрын
In short. Yes.
@raecharles5494
6 жыл бұрын
In slightly longer than short; NOT EVERY young person who listens to that music has the mental capacity or maturity to “just listen”. Just like there is music that causes people to cry emotionally, there is music than can stir violence. It’s just like brainwashing. In addition to the sale of the gang life aesthetic, in addition to the new money/flash life centric agenda, IN ADDITION to the news telling us about every stabbing that happens. The music will breed violence. So to say drill music or any media outlet can’t be an influence to the influx in aggressions would be ridiculously ignorant.
@muzikschannel48606 жыл бұрын
man like poet
@mosesdjleeds6 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Poet to pack up his lickle dubplates and go away with them.
@cheesyfm76676 жыл бұрын
Poet has a lot of shit at the bottom of his heart
@MrFrequency16 жыл бұрын
I'm torn. Don't want my kids being influenced by it but at the same time, if mans in studio dropping bars about doin road, he can't be on road... Don't care how hard u are u can't be in 2 places at once.
@MrALEXROCKS7896 жыл бұрын
Potentially, those that talk about crimes and things they are living, NO. Those who are encouraging stabbings and killings is a BIG YES, they should be prohibited.
@ozldn40686 жыл бұрын
I think there after the songs where dead homies and major disrepect is being displayed cah no lie if millions view those who apart of L will feel they need to retaliate and that the underlying them of drill so just dont be too obvious in your raps about your dirt and the white geezer is right , this will make rappers think twice about incriminating themselves as there now is more attention from the wrong ppl and now being used to convict guys , blessing in disguise 1 in 50 drill rapper actually makes some change from dis and i dnt see there vids being taken down so change the topic of your rap and be versatile
@novesnovadose21206 жыл бұрын
Poet wrong and strong on this one. Bout, "leaf on a tree"... It's the fruit, rudebwoy!
@michael435676 жыл бұрын
does smoking in a video increase the smoking rate?
@steveblackman3606
6 жыл бұрын
Michael yes.
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
link me a study that proves this larry
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@IMSOUK6 жыл бұрын
You Got To Be In The Mood To Hear Poet! 3 Minutes in... Im Done!!!
@godinferno26 жыл бұрын
Drill absolutely influences violence. Poets going on like "Yeah well, before drill existed people were still being killed". That's not even the argument. The argument is whether drill is a FACTOR in this day and age on young people being murdered, along with other influences. How can you deny it when 1011 basically snitched on themselves by name dropping murdered individuals. Of course these types of raps are gonna provoke rival gangs and increase the tension. It is not surprising these videos got taken down due to their content. However, it doesn't mean all drill is being targeted. Has Let's Lurk been taken down? Know Better? Hazards? These rappers have to be more careful with their content otherwise they'll be taken down or they'll end up in prison. It's not hard to understand, you're rapping to a audience of thousands/millions. Obviously the other side of drill is that it's helping people get out of their situations, there just needs to be a balance with the content.
@russwrld6 жыл бұрын
Diss song? If you diss dead people, say goodbye
@Afrovii6 жыл бұрын
The way Poet expresss himself is so juvenile. Even when he's making sense. So much dressing on the point.
@g-e95136 жыл бұрын
People with a weak mind will be influenced by it. But I agree with what poet said it probably does influence but it’s not the main reason
@chickenburger22136 жыл бұрын
Poets extra but hes right styll.
@rs.rileyg9696 жыл бұрын
7:26 spot on
@zakirkhan60906 жыл бұрын
Poet arguing music doesn't inspire people!? Music is what you LISTEN to, it has an effect on your subconscious. It isn't the root cause but everything plays a part. I agree overall that it's more systemic than just music but poet gotta keep his cool n think through his arguments rather than shouting trash.
@1mrperfect2476 жыл бұрын
I don't have to be part of the drill for me to see what it has done to the black youths today. drill music isn't positive. I never said ban it or anything like that but im just stating it has an influence on violent crimes like other influences. Just don't be ignorant to that fact and ignore it. Money gets people killed, so does disrespect and hard drugs but all im saying is they all play a role in violent crimes. the problem i have is when people say it doesn't have any influence
@messiah187mob56 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes I use to listen then go on mad ting
@lilmizzgirl166 жыл бұрын
I’m already tired because .. Poet 🙄
@whooked6 жыл бұрын
dont think music cuz influence you all the way but when its time to ride that shit is gonna get you gassed
@MrBlueBrownBlack6 жыл бұрын
Can't lie.. Poet needs to simmer down. It's calm to have your views but express yourself correctly man. I'm not even here for Poet, large up Chuckie still.
@freetownmkteer6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about England but Drill music is inspired by REAL gang life. NOT the other way around.
@raph2ael6 жыл бұрын
Anyone who follows the scene and says Drill has no influence on violence is just lying, plain and simple. Not the cause, but an influence, fact.
Пікірлер: 256
Drill may not cause the violence but it is definitely a catalyst nobody can deny that
Poet is so jarring sometimes. Can't have a conversation without raising his voice & waving his hands like a woman
@TariqAmazin
6 жыл бұрын
loool
@quaay2129
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would say i'm a fan of his on this show but the guy needs to be more open minded sometimes if he does not agree he brands your argument as ridiculous which has made me respect chuckie a lot more as he is very sensible when he is debating
@siobhharper87
6 жыл бұрын
Does this have anything to do with him being mixed?
@redbeard3122
6 жыл бұрын
LikkleUZI 100% chucky plays devils advocate which allows the debate to progress. Imagine a debate between 2 poets
@BigPurp9
6 жыл бұрын
He pisses me off but I’ve got to be honest I agree with pretty much all he said here. It’s just the manner he uses to get his point across that’s annoying
drill music plays a role in violence. it doesn't guarantee you will kill or hurt someone, but it does have INFLUENCE on some of the young boys mind. you can say drill music never made me kill anyone, but there are boys out there who really want to live the drill music they are speaking about.
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 people said the same thing about rock, hip hop, rap and video games. Violence is not "influenced" by anything but your living standards and situations you were put in
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
most drill music is not positive and it portrays violence that they really live by
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 so why does Rap and Metal get a pass now? It sure didn't get a pass 20 years ago
@WHIPLASHVideosTBT
6 жыл бұрын
and you think these kids weren't doing that stuff before drill existed? fucking hell use your brain
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
using your logic, smoking in videos has an influence on the smoking rate, violent video games have an influence on violent crime etc. Explain how the violent crime rate was higher back in 03-06 when there was no drill then?
Same issue has been persistent in our communities for decades, long before Drill music. Poet is right, if you want to solve an issue then tackle the root issue. Knife crime is a massive concern and needs addressing but it must addressed in its correct context. Especially when stats show more people die from domestic violence, stats also show more people die from alcohol related causes. Here is the context and a few points to consider: 1. Youth violence in council estates has been an issue long before Drill music. In most estates youth violence was an issue long before these youths were born 2. November last year the Economist highlighted that cocaine supply and demand in the UK had increased. Yet drug abuse rehabilitation units had decreased. This highlights the decrease in the opportunity cost of engaging in this sort of crime, especially in socially deprived areas. 3. Wider society further alienating itself from working class youth. Love it or loathe it, the 1011 freestyle amassed over 11.5 million views in under 6 months. It went viral with videos of it being played in university lectures, raves and vehicles across the land. That level of engagement predominantly amongst young people, illustrates that they are regarded as talented amongst their peers and have a narrative many can connect too. Drill music is one of the only open forms of insight that wider society get into inner city street youth culture in London. To lose this insight merely means the culture goes into darker underworld. When an artist does well on our platform we usually assist in helping them take their career in a more professional direction and help transition them to a better way of life. Deterring them from doing music on KZread cuts this connection. All videos that have been removed are already on Pornhub. The fact that Tommy Robinson's KZread is active, speaks volumes with regards to KZread's community guidelines and our legal systems attitude to content that many ethnic minorities feel incite racism. We are simply denying these youth from doing what Skepta and Wiley did generations ago. Meanwhile significantly more violent US rap videos remain viewable within the UK. 4. When discussing moped and other crimes, police cuts are the focus so why so why isn't it a prevailing factor in this instance? The irony here is that the police themselves have regarded Drill music as providing a valuable insight. As far back as the Mangrove 9, even further back to the Cardiff riots, we know that our communities (inner-city black), have poor relations with the police. Events last week further eroded relations. Surely a more positive message would have been what I had proposed above in terms of calling a meeting with all the relevant stakeholders and reaching a solution. UK black culture and music for the last half a century has always appeared to have been at odds with the police in some shape or form. It feels like being seen as reactive trumps actually being progressive 5. We meet some scientist don who explained the importance of understanding teenage hormones. Understanding teenage hormones in the working class, inner city context and understanding their outlook on manhood, survival and society at large. Usually many in their mid-20s tend to calm down. Point being biological factors should as also be factored into the equation. 6. Differentiating between actual violent content on social media and music videos is important. As platforms we are still learning and figuring out ways to vet content without compromising creativity. None of the support or condone videos of people actually humiliating and/or violently attacking others or themselves. Its important to distinguish between two 7. In terms of racialising the issue. A few years back the Joseph Rowntree Foundation reported that 80% of Black African Caribbean people live below the poverty line. Studies also show this racial group is disproportionately criminalised by the criminal justice system. This has been their reality for decades. Grime generation had raves locked off and track banned, So Solid similar narrative, Smiley Culture even spoke on the issue etc etc etc 8. Education support and benefit cuts to working class families. Latch key kids, the streets play a massive part in our upbringing We have a stronger connection than most to this generation, our generation. We are open to help address the issue but not at the expense of silencing a generation.
@aidentv23
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you say but whats tommy robinson got to do with DRILL.KZread policy? there banning that guy soon his shit gets taken down too drill incites violence I had to reply to ur comment as I feel your a big part in this by having people on your platform wearing balaclavas acting like they are gangbangers from Chicago shouting gang gang which is embarrassing and u know kids are watching!.I love uk rap but over the past few years it's slowly turning into a circus act. This gang shit has to be eradicated from the music for the next generations sake
@aidentv23
6 жыл бұрын
speaking as a brit!
Poet is soooo I extra
@seanbrown2361
6 жыл бұрын
KateCameron1 very extra
@LdotHatfield
6 жыл бұрын
i agree, but this time hes actually talking sense. more time he is very extra but thats just him init.
Poet wasn't about in the hood, he was the quiet timid kid who everyone thought was gay and only hung around with girls.
Poet huffing like a bish does me in
Poet just talks waffle. "...Christopher Columbus is the most glorified criminal in the whole wordl!" Wtf does a 15th century, Italian explorer have to do with UK drill music being taken down from KZread in 2018?
@DaaPoetry
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness 😂
@enosger
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness Portuguese, Christopher Columbus was Portuguese, also he was a drill pioneer back in ye olde days
@MrJvandal
6 жыл бұрын
I mean, he may have been big in the drill scene but he was definitely Italian.
@ronaldoscott8689
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness Exactly he has a massive ego and loves the sound of his own voice.
@eggfriedreus793
6 жыл бұрын
Non Ofyourbusiness he probably just came across his Wiki page before the recording 😂
Poet lives in a bubble were he thinks what he wants and does not want no one to correct him thats it. He see’s himself as right and never wrong thats the dumbest mindset Drill effect drillers I don’t know about others
@seanbrown2361
6 жыл бұрын
Creme I agree with this point 💯
Don't forget that Tyler the Creator is still banned from the UK from 2009 homophobic lyrics despite coming out himself so why trust the police with Spotify and YT content?
@WarrenPaulWilliams
6 жыл бұрын
not true i went to see shady at wembley and he was opening act with most of odd future and danny brown
@kqvinhd1998
6 жыл бұрын
Warren Williams Tyler was banned from the UK in 2015 and is still banned, t's an easy google search bro
@WarrenPaulWilliams
6 жыл бұрын
i saw him 2014
Poet has passion for music and it is why i understand why he has the views he has, but he is being ignorant if he thinks that music such as drill music has no influence. influence is not the tool that does the crime like a knife or gun but such as alcohol or hard drugs, it is used to create a problem. What is wrong to do is say you shouldn't find ways to sort out a problem just because other influences are not sorted out. poverty is an influence that allows people to be violent, but it doesn't mean rich people aren't violent too. But we know poverty has an influence in violences in poverty towns.
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
show me a study that shows a positive correlation between violent crime in the UK & the increase in drill videos.
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
are you aware of how many drill artists have a criminal record, based on violence?
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 How does a drill artist having a criminal record influence violent crime?
@1mrperfect247
6 жыл бұрын
i never said it does. drill music has created rival gangs and are being violent to each other. i just want to know what drill music represent because to me there isn't anything positive about it
@bigmoneysteppa
6 жыл бұрын
1mrperfect247 nope he has a passion for hanging around music,sport art pretty much anything so he can get paid to talk about it. Dude is the definition of a bred.
Some young kids are of course influenced by drill content.. it is music which is basically influential. Look at how many people were inspired to drink lean from Lil Wayne, Future, Pimp C, Gucci Mane, all the shit we buy because of what artists wear.... why do you think brands sponsor artists.. because music is influential lol
K koke got arrested before wireless years ago and it was one of the causes of him getting dropped by roc nation
Poet we don’t care about we’re your from🤔😂 stop telling us
Removing people’s art shouldn’t be tolerated
@dailyc8463
6 жыл бұрын
"Ejaculate in her mouth or pull out ejaculate on her breasts" #art "Bro made you drink that acid that day how the fuck can you still be alive" #art
@serkantabak2458
6 жыл бұрын
Art is subjective, someone painting a turd is still art.
@serkantabak2458
6 жыл бұрын
This is something i agree with in principal, but the problem is Neo-Nazis have their own art aswell (Just bringing up the worst group) and so a company is well within their rights to ban a genre of music or supress an artist for any reason they want. You can criticize it but you shouldnt be able to stop a company from doing so.
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
Daily C that's just your interpretation in my opinion that is art.
@gostz6839
5 жыл бұрын
Daily C 1011 is art :))
today on another episode of the poet show
Removing Drill videos from KZread and Spotify etc is an immediate solution to one aspect of the problem, how can Poet not think that's positive? You do what you can where you can. It's a lot easier to do that than to focus SOLELY on the larger socioeconomic issues that lead kids to that life. Spotify and KZread have the right idea! People who teach you how to clean knives after "using them" don't deserve a platform, profits or promotion. *shrug*
@bilalaziz8669
6 жыл бұрын
KealSpeaks big up for being honest bro. You've put it perfectly 👌
@12tribes61
6 жыл бұрын
KealSpeaks real talk these pagans protecting the killers
Poet gets so hype but when real bad man are around he is quiet🤐
Sometimes I feel poet genuinely believes only black people have gone through a struggle. Blood black white asain we are all 2nd 3rd generation and we all have struggled. Poet might have been in the hood due to his parents but he hasn’t been IN THE HOOD or involved in crud. HE WENT TO THEATRE SCHOOL. FFS!
Yeah but back in your day it wasn't as bad as this Poet. Drill glorifies stabbing/violence, gassing these yutes like it's normal to kill. Lets not forget the internet, back in the day you could send for another man but not shout you're going to poke man up, or make up shit like you stabbed/shot him and he ran away. Yutes nowadays see red if they get mocked by another man on the internet, smearing ones reputation is on-sight business to dem. For some of these man think they can just jump on 1 instrumental, talk bad about doing madness and end up in sticky situations not understanding the consequences. they all sound the same anyways, itz ded.
poet shouting the same thing over chuckie or snipz half the time, at least have a convo
poet forever being annoying lol
I have one thing to say about this: CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION.
Listen. who in their right senses will tell a rapist to keep rapping about their acts, because as long as its in the music, then theres nothing wrong with it? Youre mad! Even if it doesnt influence anyone, you listening, and purchasing, basically supporting the music: Number 1: Normalizes the act Number 2: Makes the people talking about it feel its okay, and then they continue in the act ALSO, dont come with the "if they talk about it, then we know who is involved" talk. Because if those people were arrested, we will be the same people to say its unfair. Lets learn to praise good, and call bad bad. Let’s not be part of the problem. Disclaimer: I'm a black guy who lives in London
@JoshArtim
6 жыл бұрын
Da Don faaaam!
Poet is so deluded on this topic and I generally agree with him/like him... It's scientificcally proven that music has an influence on on behaviour/releases certain hormones that adjust mood etc.. (hence why you go to the gym you have a certain playlist etc.. as it triggers mental and physical respones) besides that look at the impact music has on culture i.e Fasion etc... Young impressionable minds see the fuckery making it more acceptable to try attain that lifestyle as it seems as these guys are getting away with making serious money. Imagine the reponse Malcom X would have given to this type of music talking about killing your own kind... People using heavy metal as an example and why they aint killing (Heavy metal does not talk about killing eachother u fools it's more darkness/emo culture not fucking killing eachother. just look at the way those guys dress/the fans look and see the impact that music culture has had on them (goth emo culture). Music is not the main cause of the violence, poverty is however it does not help the root cause only further confusing these kids. we are talking subconcious level conditioning you muppets, it's a very powerful thing that picks up everything absorbing that information has a big influence. If you knew anything you would know about marketing and how they use the subconcious to trigger behaviour paying millions for studies to be done on subconcious behaviour. Anybody that's studied psychology will tell you about music and the power it has. (My aunt PHD in Psychology/Subconcious behaviour patterns) would destory all these foolish arguments.
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Facts !! I got started on listening to metal wrong time to start on somebody
"No one can quantify against my argument" - Said Poet every week
I do agree with the concept of what Poet is saying when he says I'm tired of hearing that the cause of violence is due to some teenagers listening to this so-called drill music but WHY does he have'to be so emotional about it ??????????????? Bruh cant have a normal conversation without getting all menopausal and S#@T,, Lol
I cant believe people are takin this argument seriously! Maybe drill does influence the youth, but not to the same extent as other much bigger factors like poverty, lack of oppurtunity etc. If drill music was illegal (not sure how that could happen) then violent crime would still occur. I think only people who are not involved in that lifestyle or dont live around those areas think music is a serious factor.
@enosger
6 жыл бұрын
Alessandro Caporizzo I must disagree most killings are happening in London, if you can’t make it there you can’t make it anywhere, of all the cities in the U.K. London has the most opportunity so how are these not trying a bit of hard work, there’s not excuses yes there’s poverty but Halifax has poverty as does Swansea or hull but I don’t see youth in those cities killing each other, as a black man I see a cultural problem not a social one those three cities I mentioned are full of deprived white youths why aren’t they killing each other, I think it’s to do with values and unfortunately our black youths value hip hop high fashion machismo and sex over living a real life. Let’s tackle at root cause and stop fooling ourselves, POET.
@Leonmorgan
6 жыл бұрын
then why is youth murder concentrated in inner cities where there are more opportunities and not in equally poor rural areas with much less opportunities ? if you can't or won't acknowledge that much of the causes are cultural factors and not economic then you're simply in a state of denial
The sad thing is people would rather protect drill artists and music than tackle the problem of violent crimes in the UK. Why can't people accept that banning drill and monitoring the effect that has on gang crime is a positive? If banning this talentless garbage leads to the streets being safer, why wouldn't it be acceptable to take that risk?
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
Doors of Perception rap takes the most talent to make than any music genre
@bilalaziz8669
6 жыл бұрын
WildenYT yep but you don't need much talent to make drill music. It's the same few words used in different combinations with nearly every rapper sharing a flow. There isn't anything revolutionary about drill as an art form. It'll be forgotten about just as quickly as it came up. Not one drill artist will have a legacy. In 10 years time nobody will be talking about these bummy weirdos.
@12tribes61
6 жыл бұрын
Doors of Perception facts
Poet stop shouting bruh
poet can't deliver a message without being overly passionate and shouty honestly.. cba
Lol I think I might hate poet
No Hoods in London, we need to stop taking American cultural experiences, and trying to make it our own. Endz, the block, the streets, etc. Just saying...
Stop saying trash, you’re not American
@2ndblock66a.w.o.l7
6 жыл бұрын
1010 Messi enit...pisses me of wen I hear English people talk like dat.sounds mad forced
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Total garbage
Chuckie advocates great debates 👊🏾
Being on KZread is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT! The government and police are not trying to ban Drill music. Why should certain gang affiliated drill acts determined to use drill music to promote crime be allowed to use popular platforms like KZread to promote their negativity?
Is anybody saying that drill music is the root of the violence? Poet seems to think people are, but personally I haven't seen many, if any saying that
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
George Milne agree he moans like me on my period
Snips is so smart and articulate when he speaks. Bring him on more often. You can tell Poet was jealous when Snips mentioned he is starting a Record label.
The podcast of the century.. real life gang shiiit.. keep it up brethren..
Poet is so close to being 100% right on this these things were happening before the music existed these kids are just talking about whats happening around them. We can't look at individuals but the root of the problem is the social economic circumstances these kids are growing up in. People don't want the root of the problem exposed to the drill audiences these guys are talking about because everyone will find out the truth soon
Poet: "they just don't wanna see niggas gettin money" What type ahh fooolishness!! A man is getting money from promoting violence and talking about murdering a next man... why should he be allowed to make money from this?? Someone help me
Poet is unlistenable. Needs a few valium to have a proper conversation or something. Also, doesn't "drill" basically mean to shoot or kill etc? Correct me if i'm wrong please. I know a bit about the Chicago scene but not too much about UK drill.
Man said" they dont wanna see young blacks get money" if so,I want to ask him,if his son(future son) sees a future in this would he let his child take the 101 steps(aka join a gang, talk ,eat and sleep about stabbing and so forth) to become a drill artist? I bet his answer will be NO..........
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
CAMDEN LONDON-TOWN facts Bro no parent would be sound with that
drill is a symptom of a larger issue. materialism, getting social status thru violence, all that. u gotta solve them first. we pick on drill, but there's also been heavy metal, hollywood gangster movies etc edit: the guy actually just said this word for word mad
Chuckie is a user, he knows he is a lot smarter and far more cultured than Poet will ever be but he realises that Poet is more watchable than he is. I don't think it's fair to do a show with your disabled friend Chuckie.
Honestly poet ruins these podcasts I prefer when he isn't on it
I Love the way Poet thinks migrating will eradicate all life issues... U gotta rate dat still!
Poet just proved himself wrong, and he knows it. If music and lyrics had no influence at all then why do people play slow jams when they're with a female? Cuz it sets the mood. So if you're rolling round in a hatchback all day doesnt listening to drill set the mood for violence? I can't stand people that are full of shit cuz they're fanboys
This podcast has so much potential for more views, but its difficult to even finish one video because of Poet. Poet needs to have his OWN podcast because he likes the sound of his own voice, and only cares for his OWN opinions. But there's no point trying to participate in a podcast which is supposed to DISCUSS issues when he just talking AT everyone and not listening. My ear drums literally feel like they are bursting. Poet is just too loud. Constant just shit talking just to be heard. URGH!!! Ape Worm!!!
i feel bad for poets wife.. she gotta listen to this dude
Poet waffling as per usual
I think we should focus on the fact they cut funding for the police force and let go of thousands of officers in the UK. That may be one of the factors that link to an increase in crime. Also what of punk and some rock, do they promote destruction and rebellion? Maybe we should be holding politicians accountable instead of music.
It's quite stupid ban drill in the UK when this genre is popular in America that's where it derived from
Drill music does not influence the listener. This genre only influences the individual rap groups to inflict violence on their rivals. Despite the fact they were doing this before the music.
Is poet gay?
@roadgetfrogoff4674
6 жыл бұрын
God Himself must be
@WOEGEE
6 жыл бұрын
He is
Poet seems to bring up Christopher Columbus for every discussion
I agree with Poet. People are too caught up in the leaves we'll never get to the root. Respectability politics has some ground i.e. Drill music can exasperate - wait for it - violence that already EXISTS.
give snipes a permanent seat
Poet has a point but he is so stubborn that he doesn't want to see the other side of the coin. It's proven the music/videos you watch/listen too effects your mood. If all negative music and videos was removed crime would be down. The film Scareface influenced a lot of people to be a gangster, Drill music glorifies crime for the younger generation and people that relate will live that life.
Poet went innnnnn
Poet is acting like a stereotypical Jamaican/English yout 😒
Just because a person doesn't like something that mean no one should like it right?
Is Poet going to leave the planet or just carry on teasing
I actually pictured in my head this conversation and pictured in my head Snips response just a few hours before I saw this video and I thought Snips response would be the complete opposite. I bet he loves gangsta rap though... Blues was too dangerous because it was former slaves and they slurred their words, jazz was too dangerous because they were playing off key notes and the people were jiving to it in an unusual way. It wasn't seen as 'real music' of course as usual, whatever 'real music' is. Blues, jazz, rock, hip hop, rap, grime are only real music genres when people of a different complexion make it. Then it becomes acceptable. Lol watch when the first white drill rapper starts blowing, his songs will chart top ten and drill will lose it's taboo status 100%. P.S London isn't any more and is probably much less dangerous than it was 10 or 20 years ago.
@Tn-mr3pz
6 жыл бұрын
Sol Shields k koke?
@solshields
6 жыл бұрын
he's rap not drill, once K Koke and Benny Banks charted black rappers (not grime artist) like Giggs could start doing shows. K Koke even says in Listen Little Man "I was there when it started, I'm the reason you're an artist". Nines just done a UK tour, no way thats happenning 7 years ago before K Koke and Benny Banks charted.
@solshields
6 жыл бұрын
am 1 research it for yourself
POET IS DA TRUTH BLUD
The answer is simply no
bro, all he said was he had enough of afro and drill which has been overly saturated, poet said leave us in our world like drill and afro represents the black people of UK... 4 eyed earthworm jim
Yo, talk about the mist passa in your next one.
would police rather kids spend some of their time in a studio making music, or spending all their time in the streets because drill music is banned? Banning drill is basically blocking a pathway out the hood
@BigTone999
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Of course making music can be a good thing but why do these kids have to rap about negative things? Why can't they rap on positive stuff?
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
NewMusicPlusTv what because all music is positive? Punk Rock music doesn't talk about drugs & alcohol? Hip hop & RnB doesn't talk about sex & drugs? These kids have been brought up in poor neighbourhoods, where there's drugs & violence everywhere. But you expect them to rap about something positive smh. Be realistic
@BigTone999
6 жыл бұрын
Michael The whole genre of fiction is based on non factual stories, using the imagination to think up new stories, why does a writer have to be limited to his surroundings for material? If that was the case there would be no Marvel Universe, no Matrix etc...
%1000 drill music is a one of the reason of knife crime.Im 16 and I’ve seen so many people have been influence to do things because of listening to drill songs.Its like when king girls watch people like Kim Kardashian and others and want to go put makeup and want to have surgery on there body.Its an influence.Society has a way of giving people who have followers power and young teens are watching these people talk about I’m going to shank man up and go outside and see a guy look at them the wrong way and now it’s beef.Im not saying taking off KZread because some teens lives have changed because of it.
its weird how the gyal at 11:00 talked about the driller turned pastor but did not mention gospel drill.
no. It's not gonna reduce knife crime so why take down the vids? There are guys like AM x Skengdo, Loski, Headie One etc that aren't in the streets anymore & earn legal show money thanks to drill. No normal kid is gonna wanna stab someone because they saw a drill vid, they were gonna stab someone anyway. Drill music does more good than bad. (And these man are basically TELLING the police what's going on in their vids, taking down the vids is like feds saying "no we don't want this information, we don't want to arrest you for stabbing/shooting this person")
Poet is the original bred.
Can we go 15 mins without it getting racial?
@bigmoneysteppa
6 жыл бұрын
No.
I think drill gives *some* of these guys on road an incentive to stay in that life longer than they otherwise would.
You're talking about the people making the videos incriminating themselves, but the music has no link to crime? 🤔😒 I can see Chuckie struggling with poet, jheez 🤦🏾♂️
In short. Yes.
@raecharles5494
6 жыл бұрын
In slightly longer than short; NOT EVERY young person who listens to that music has the mental capacity or maturity to “just listen”. Just like there is music that causes people to cry emotionally, there is music than can stir violence. It’s just like brainwashing. In addition to the sale of the gang life aesthetic, in addition to the new money/flash life centric agenda, IN ADDITION to the news telling us about every stabbing that happens. The music will breed violence. So to say drill music or any media outlet can’t be an influence to the influx in aggressions would be ridiculously ignorant.
man like poet
Still waiting for Poet to pack up his lickle dubplates and go away with them.
Poet has a lot of shit at the bottom of his heart
I'm torn. Don't want my kids being influenced by it but at the same time, if mans in studio dropping bars about doin road, he can't be on road... Don't care how hard u are u can't be in 2 places at once.
Potentially, those that talk about crimes and things they are living, NO. Those who are encouraging stabbings and killings is a BIG YES, they should be prohibited.
I think there after the songs where dead homies and major disrepect is being displayed cah no lie if millions view those who apart of L will feel they need to retaliate and that the underlying them of drill so just dont be too obvious in your raps about your dirt and the white geezer is right , this will make rappers think twice about incriminating themselves as there now is more attention from the wrong ppl and now being used to convict guys , blessing in disguise 1 in 50 drill rapper actually makes some change from dis and i dnt see there vids being taken down so change the topic of your rap and be versatile
Poet wrong and strong on this one. Bout, "leaf on a tree"... It's the fruit, rudebwoy!
does smoking in a video increase the smoking rate?
@steveblackman3606
6 жыл бұрын
Michael yes.
@michael43567
6 жыл бұрын
link me a study that proves this larry
@amylloyd9385
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
You Got To Be In The Mood To Hear Poet! 3 Minutes in... Im Done!!!
Drill absolutely influences violence. Poets going on like "Yeah well, before drill existed people were still being killed". That's not even the argument. The argument is whether drill is a FACTOR in this day and age on young people being murdered, along with other influences. How can you deny it when 1011 basically snitched on themselves by name dropping murdered individuals. Of course these types of raps are gonna provoke rival gangs and increase the tension. It is not surprising these videos got taken down due to their content. However, it doesn't mean all drill is being targeted. Has Let's Lurk been taken down? Know Better? Hazards? These rappers have to be more careful with their content otherwise they'll be taken down or they'll end up in prison. It's not hard to understand, you're rapping to a audience of thousands/millions. Obviously the other side of drill is that it's helping people get out of their situations, there just needs to be a balance with the content.
Diss song? If you diss dead people, say goodbye
The way Poet expresss himself is so juvenile. Even when he's making sense. So much dressing on the point.
People with a weak mind will be influenced by it. But I agree with what poet said it probably does influence but it’s not the main reason
Poets extra but hes right styll.
7:26 spot on
Poet arguing music doesn't inspire people!? Music is what you LISTEN to, it has an effect on your subconscious. It isn't the root cause but everything plays a part. I agree overall that it's more systemic than just music but poet gotta keep his cool n think through his arguments rather than shouting trash.
I don't have to be part of the drill for me to see what it has done to the black youths today. drill music isn't positive. I never said ban it or anything like that but im just stating it has an influence on violent crimes like other influences. Just don't be ignorant to that fact and ignore it. Money gets people killed, so does disrespect and hard drugs but all im saying is they all play a role in violent crimes. the problem i have is when people say it doesn't have any influence
Yes yes yes I use to listen then go on mad ting
I’m already tired because .. Poet 🙄
dont think music cuz influence you all the way but when its time to ride that shit is gonna get you gassed
Can't lie.. Poet needs to simmer down. It's calm to have your views but express yourself correctly man. I'm not even here for Poet, large up Chuckie still.
I don’t know about England but Drill music is inspired by REAL gang life. NOT the other way around.
Anyone who follows the scene and says Drill has no influence on violence is just lying, plain and simple. Not the cause, but an influence, fact.