I can’t be mad at the Warriors front office for making the move but I can be skeptical that he joined the team that was stopping him from winning.

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

This will always make me feel weird about KD. He joined the team that EXPOSED his iso style and then when he won he admitted it didnt feel nearly as great as he wanted because he knows he sold out. When Lebron won in 2012 you could see how it meant the world to him. He won a title with his friends and was ecstatic.

@hepatitiscyalater7269

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 Yup and their was at least teams capable of beating the heat. From the start it was a known conclusion was that the warriors were the clear Champs. Of course Houston and that game 7 but after that the hope for their reign to end in that time vanished. Until injuries and KD leaving happened

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

@@hepatitiscyalater7269 kerr's response to the rockets was classic "if iggy had been healthy it would have been us in 5 and we knew it" they were built for one player Lebron. Even by their 4th straight meet Kerr had nothing but praise saying it was Jordan and Lebron then everyone else. He even said Lebron's the first player to be better in their 15th season than in their 10th. I just dont know how KD is confused with people's disappointment.

@HeenaPatel253

3 жыл бұрын

BernieForLifeBFL Same I’m not mad at him though just not a fan of him anymore

@thomaslequesne5475

3 жыл бұрын

@@hepatitiscyalater7269 there were teams capable of beating the Heat because they didn't play as well as the warriors. In terms of talent, they were really close.

Speaking as a long time die hard Thunder fan, I’m over it. I’m not a fan of KD anymore but I don’t hate him. I’m just numb to him.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

How long? 12 years? Why would you hate him? OKC hasn't been out of the 1st Rd since he left.

@nickpark101

3 жыл бұрын

Brendan Bloom Knowing that KD could not close out the warriors in game 7 in oracle and LeBron did in the next round is why I will always be disappointed in his legacy if he doesn’t win a championship without the warriors.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickpark101 that makes no sense. It's not kd vs gs or LeBron vs gs. It's OKC and Cavs vs gs. Kd scored 27 of 88 pts while LeBron scored 27 of 93 pts. Kd shot 10-19. LeBron shot 9-24. Westbrook shot 7-21 19 pts. Kyrie shot 10-23 for 26 pts. Kyrie was the one who took and made that clutch iso 3 out of a timeout. Kd also played overall better defense. Not just 1 block but consistent defense. How TF is an opposing forward (Draymond) getting 32 and 15 in game 7. Kd was on a team where he's the only guy who can shoot outside shots and gs actually had their shot blockers healthy that game. LeBron can surround himself with a lineup of shooters with Kyrie, Smith, RJ, and Love. Plus no shot blockers as bogut was out that game. Game 7 wcf kd scored 12 pts in the 4th. Game 7 finals LeBron scored 11 pts in the 4th. Mind you he got gifted 3 fts as festus ezeli committed a stupid foul on a 3 attempt. Then LeBron got festus on him again for another 3. Why festus was even in the game idk. Then he got another pt from a fg as gs had to foul to stop the clock.

@metetutek9261

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanbloom3366 well if the refs werent drunk he would have made 2 more free throws

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@metetutek9261 I have no clue what your talking about. There was nothing wrong with the refs that game. If anything I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron got away with numerous offensive fouls and travels.

The thing about Durant for me is that he was that he really wasn't the engine of the team. Sure, he was the leading scorer, but Curry generated the offense, and you can see that in how he was guarded compared to Curry. He would be left open in the finals because the Cavs wanted to double Curry (who would still average a 26.8 near triple-double in that 2017 finals) and that allowed Durant to be efficient. I don't care about the move. What I care about is that I can't say it was his team, and that more than anything else, hurts his legacy.

@elmerwilber3308

3 жыл бұрын

.

@camdonking1919

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@discokidd1264

3 жыл бұрын

Nope wrong again

@yurhomi4478

3 жыл бұрын

Elmer Wilber Your whole point about KD in the Warriors’ offense was erroneous and you’d know if you actually watched them in the playoffs.

@user-jj9mi7by8v

3 жыл бұрын

KD>Steph buddy

As Chris Broussard once said, maybe the biggest downside of Durant's decision is that we never got to see what the Warriors would've been without him in the following years. How would they have come back from that devastating loss? Would we have witnessed another all-time great season from Steph? Or would the Rockets with Chris Paul maybe have surpassed them and won a championship?

@smurphas6119

Жыл бұрын

in a sense we did in 2021, but it wasn’t about that. it was about the nba. most of all i wanted to see the cavs and warriors match up again, and see if my cavs could do it again. yes i always hoped but after that trade i could barely believe it would happen

@xxora6568

Жыл бұрын

I think that team was too good to just fall off, they would come back

@hitthurdeaux

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the latter. Chris Paul is a loser

@ethanma3916

11 ай бұрын

the thing about those butterfly effects is that chris paul likely doesn't go to the rockets, who played moreyball specifically to counter the warriors

Honestly I was pissed when LBJ left, but now that i look back at it it makes sense why he left he had no 1 with him, but when i look at durant im just confused he nearly won against the warriors if they ran it back they coudve won i never understood it if he beat curry LBJ he'd be far higher

@unopaz4970

3 жыл бұрын

@Gloria Smalls they went up 3-1 the reason why they lost is Durant total 4th quarter points in the last 3 games is 10

@unopaz4970

3 жыл бұрын

@Gloria Smalls there is more than 1 way to play bb you know that and how did they go up 3-1 Even then why did it have to be warriors why not knicks or Celtics

KD ruined what couldve been one of the greatest rivalries in NBA history. He ruined the Warriors team cooperation. He ruined the Warriors 2nd biggest rival in OKC. Then he leaves GS to prove he can win a chip without a super team, but gets James Harden when he already has Kyrie. Of course I'm not over it.

@1xromantic895

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you need a life

@buttfart12

3 жыл бұрын

@@1xromantic895 bro what

@1xromantic895

3 жыл бұрын

@@buttfart12 don’t ever bro me in your life bro

@buttfart12

3 жыл бұрын

@@1xromantic895 bruh what

@veltix2292

3 жыл бұрын

@@1xromantic895 🤡

KD ruined the league for 4 years hell yeah I’m still mad

@austinclubb2093

3 жыл бұрын

Look, I can be mad at what he did while still appreciating his greatness. He is one of the greatest who made a very soft move, and I don't see anything wrong with me thinking this way.

@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t

3 жыл бұрын

Ruined lol. Warriors gone and ratings got even worse. Obviously it wasn't ruined

@outlawstarjoseph8064

3 жыл бұрын

Ruined? Was it KD fault that the Rockets choked twice? And Missed 27 straight 3s? Was it KD fault that Boogie got injured and that pelicans team could’ve won if Boogie was there? Was it Kevin Durants fault that he had to drop 50 against that clippers team because of he didn’t they were gonna lose that series? Was it Kevin Durants fault Giannis was prepared to be an MVP yet? Did Durant hurt Kawhi? Was is Durant fault the 76ers shit the bed? Was is Durants fault that the Celtics couldn’t stop LeBron? No, the league was more competitive than people want to pretend it was. The had trials and tribulations and they earned their rings. I don’t like the move he did however he didn’t ruin the league

@austinclubb2093

3 жыл бұрын

@@outlawstarjoseph8064 It was his fault they blew a 3-1 lead on the 79 win Warriors though, as an example

@ethanrichey

3 жыл бұрын

OutlawStar Joseph lol, the pelicans had no chance of beating the warriors even with a healthy boogie

It is funny watching this now knowing harden went to the nets and it’s happening all over again

@SomeBF

3 жыл бұрын

At least Kyrie & Harden are nowhere near as likeable as Steph & Klay so I feel literally no reservations laughing at every single failure the Nets bring upon themselves. If there defense stays as it is they’re looking at a second round exit if they get lucky with seeding.

@princejayer9469

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@CovfefeDotard

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@maxerickson4080

3 жыл бұрын

@@CoalsToday it felt so good as a bucks fan. That Giannis is who KD was in 2013. The hero of the midwest. The guy who stayed.

@rope2072

3 жыл бұрын

@@SomeBF u called that shit lmao

We didn't just lose Durant's play during those years, we lost the Warrior's play too.

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

The portland series confirmed what we all knew: they didnt need KD to win big. They ate alive the Blazers on the same 2015 playstyle with amazing ball movement and Steph being Steph.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 the raptors series confirmed what we all already knew.

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanbloom3366 I used Portland because everyone minus KD was still mostly healthy and Portland had a 4Q lead in every game of that sweep.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 Portland's defense was atrocious and they should have won that series. Portland was not that good. They got swept the year before in the 1st Rd by pelicans. They beat OKC who is built to lose with they're style of play and lack of spacing. Kd should get way more credit for making that team a contender and getting them to at least the wcf every year they're healthy from 2011 to 2016. Then they barely beat Denver who had no playoff experience. Raptors were a legitimate opponent and they were easily better than gs with no kd. The 1st 2 games raptors outscored gs 7 out of 8 quarters. They barely won game 2 and cousins played well that game which is someone they didn't have the last couple years. Game 3 no Klay so I won't count that. Game 4 Klay is healthy he plays 42 minutes and scores 28 pts. Raptors win by 13. Game 5 gs wins by 1pt. The series ends there if not for kd. They won by 1 and kd scored 11pts. Cousins also provided 14 pts that game. The only qaurter gs outscored Toronto that game was the 1st when kd was out there. One of the rare quarters gs outscored Toronto the whole series.

@davidfebreeze428

3 жыл бұрын

Brendan Bloom the warriors all where far from healthy it was their 5th straight finals they all didn’t have the energy curry didn’t look too good they didn’t have as deep a bench like t years before then klay goes down and yet it was a 6game series

Clayton, I deeply appreciate your willingness to be honest, yet nuanced and comprehensive in your takes! Thank you for producing quality content your way.

@austinking2k

3 жыл бұрын

Pretentious 😂

@laurentmikasso7452

3 жыл бұрын

@@austinking2k saddest comment ever

@austinking2k

3 жыл бұрын

Laurent Mikasso Bissombi The dudes name is even ‘Monsieur Scotch’ am I wrong ? 😂

@laurentmikasso7452

3 жыл бұрын

@@austinking2k was talking about you...

@austinking2k

3 жыл бұрын

Laurent Mikasso Bissombi No shit

Really interested to see how good he'll be next season.

@nimahanna1709

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine he retires after a year of making bank for free. In one aspect he is under paid cause I’m sure other teams would pay much more just to have him, but millions of dollars for 0 minutes is still hard to rap your head around.

@betyt4398

3 жыл бұрын

Styles FS he will prove a lot of people wrong

@fst5349

3 жыл бұрын

@@betyt4398 what do you mean ?

@ruckman8834

3 жыл бұрын

@@betyt4398 I hope so!

@betyt4398

3 жыл бұрын

Styles FS people sayin he sucks without GS or he needs curry and shit like that, he will prove them wrong and beat the bucks in 7 and make the finals

Steph was still the best player on the Warriors even if the accolades didn't say that. Steph's presence and gravity on the court is what made KD so dominant. Warriors did best with both Steph and Durant on the court but when it came to only Steph or only Durant, Warriors were better with just Steph. Both +/- and game record agree with that.

@godimready2go

3 жыл бұрын

Of course , Curry is essentially the system . His unselfishness is what made that team so successful.

@jimb0072

3 жыл бұрын

That's the worst part lmao literally and I mean LITERALLY if steph was selfish he could've had his finals mvps instead he let the snake drive the car god I hate those teams

@user-js7mo3wy4z

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimb0072 😂😂😂 yal know KD better than curry c’mon stop it 😂😂 curry is the reason KD was so dominant? 😁how y’all sound

@prajwalkrishnabhat5539

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimb0072 that wouldn't change much tho. People would still hate on kd and the warriors and say that he ruined his chances at being the greatest.

@austinbigelow1523

3 жыл бұрын

Cannot believe it is possible for anyone to think Steph is the reason that team was so dominant. KD came to that team as a league MVP and arguably the best player in the league at the time. Before Steph ever passed him the ball. Curry literally had 1 title before KD and it was because Kyrie and Kevin Love were injured and lebron had to average 36 13 and 9 lol. If he had Kyrie that series is a wrap along with 2016 and Curry would have and should have been 0-2 when KD got there. Period. People don't even watch basketball anymore they just make shit up and look at box scores and stats and highlights and think they have even the slightest clue as to what they are talking about.

You can’t compare KDs move like the rest of the superstars, they didn’t join a stacked team. KD joined a team that beat him and that’s a weak move.

@elmerayala5366

2 жыл бұрын

Also joined the best team of all time

@tybauer6672

2 жыл бұрын

Lebron James 2010 joins D-Wade, Chris Bosh in Miami. That heat team for its time was stacked as hell.

@WestAucklandRhymes

2 жыл бұрын

@@tybauer6672 chris bosh joined the heat along with lebron. the heat was wades team before that. not an accurate comparison

@tybauer6672

2 жыл бұрын

@@WestAucklandRhymes 🤣 how is it not? Just because the Warriors were better then the big 3 heat by far yall don't wanna hear it? Lol alright.

@xertifiedthicc

2 жыл бұрын

@@tybauer6672 its just sumn about joining a 73-9 team lol. iz like if wilt joining the celtics

My main complaint about his move to the warriors is that it killed all competition in the NBA and made his entire time there feel boring because everybody already knew the outcome. Imagine reading a book that had its ending spoiled to you. Wouldn't that make the book less enjoyable than if you did not know the ending at all? From KD standpoint he became the best player on a legendary team and you cant blame him too much for his choice. I am just glad that this season there are 4ish teams that have somewhat of a realistic chance to win it all.

@orhanozkan7358

3 жыл бұрын

I still do think it was a weak ass move to go to golden state . NOw that being said he had every right to leave OKC if he wasn't happy. But how can you hgo to a team you blew a 3-1 lead on ? How do you feel playing with the dudes that beat you badly( he played horrible to his standards that series too). Thats like MJ joining the Celtics or Lebron joining the Spurs after the loss or the Wariors after the loss. Thats just weak.

@jigeahah5058

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I just can't understand why he would want to join GSW. If he's trying to build his legacy, why the warriors? It doesn't make sense to me. Importantly, that man is KD, top 2 player in the league without question, joined the juggernaught to get his easy ring? That ain't it great players can't be great like that doesn't matter how he performed in that team. I'm mad because he has a legit chance to build a legendary legacy he is that caliber type of player, but if that is the way he tries to do, I just have to disagree. And now he complaining why everyone still think lebron is the best, what did he proved to be the best then? smh

@jigeahah5058

3 жыл бұрын

@Zef Blueberry Yeah it's true lebron joined all stars, but its not a guarantee it will work, many quote on quote superteams didn't work, it's up to lebron and the team to figure it out. So yeah forming a superteam makes like easy but not guaranteed. In KD's case he joined an already dominant team that doesn't need him. Can you imagine being a top 2 player and the team doesn't need you LOL He literally can sit on the bench for the entire season and they still gon be at the finals. That's what made me mad

@DemonKing-oi4jd

3 жыл бұрын

@@jigeahah5058 Well first of all you are wrong on a lot of things. 1. Joining warriors wasn't for legacy, but to win 2. KD didn't join a juggernaut because they lost 3. KD couldn't lead a team in 2016 on his own 4. He isn't complaining that LeBron is the best 5. You said LeBron forming a super team isn't guaranteed which is true, but that's LeBron's fault. How did we know that KD would fit seamlessly, the answer is obvious, and speaks about how LeBron vs KD plays their game. They needed him as much as they needed him if you understand the game.

@rogeliochavez40

3 жыл бұрын

@@DemonKing-oi4jd That's not Lebron's fault, bro. That was just how the circumstances of the Heat were; they didn't know what things could result and how they were going to performed together (sure Wade, Bron and Bosh top talents but the role they played for their teams and how it would translate all together against already established teams with multiple all stars was a big unpredictable question). KD's case was different since the GSW we're an already formed superteam, with players that could adapt to different adjustments with roles and capacities that showed to be perfect conditions for a great scorer on multiple ways and levels.

Still hate him, weakest move of all time. But he is truly amazing and so was that team.

@rygesa

3 жыл бұрын

Ok Stephen A

@niggato23

3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Ryge nah man it’s the truth

@niggato23

3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Ryge nah man it’s the truth and a real warriors fan would’ve said, “We didn’t need KD”

@rygesa

3 жыл бұрын

@@niggato23 I never said GS needed KD. They didnt. I was just pointing out OP's thoughts arent original.

@niggato23

3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Ryge I wasn’t you know what nvm

My only issue with Durant was something you mentioned- we lost 2016 Steph. He was the most exciting player ever imo. Watching him pull from 30-35 feet was incredible. I got no problem with Durant going to a good team, but I wish we wouldn’t have lost unanimous MVP Steph

@pen5666

3 жыл бұрын

wasn't a fan of steph but i gotta agree.

You should do “making a case” for greatest teams in nba history

@prajwalkrishnabhat5539

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that just be the teams that had the prime goat candidates in them?

@grewdordan

3 жыл бұрын

@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 Well the 2017 Warriors are regarded as one of the best, if not the best, team of all time and I don’t think any player on that team is legitimately in GOAT conversation

I don’t like how people have begun to justify durants move to the warriors. It was a weak move and there is nothing you can change about it

@austinclubb2093

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry So if Giannis joined the Clippers next season for example you wouldn't think anything of it? Taking the easy way out come with criticism, always has, always will. Nothing wrong with it. You can appreciate his greatness but still acknowledge that his move was the weakest move by a superstar ever.

@patcraver83

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry what does race have to do with it????

@austinclubb2093

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry saying the Warriors only had one franchise player just shows how little you know about basketball, but to each their own like you said. Done talking to someone who wants to start something.

@awesomefaceness135

3 жыл бұрын

Ovtcry you just out here looking for things to cry about?

@geraalcht

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry "Lets just move all superstars on one team. Its the best decision after all for their career so that they win all the fucking chips they want." Thats how you sound. Lets kill the competitiveness of NBA while were at it. Bitch move is a bitch move, no matter how you twist it.

Im gonna be honest. I love KD man, but he feels like a kid with a shotgun. Highly dangerous but very emotional. Also the most competitive swipe i ever saw was i think indiana vs cavs 2017. It was a sweep but godamn was the score neck and neck and hell PG showed up and balled

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

Lebron's game 3 is one of the most unsung playoff achievements ever. He led a 20 point second half comeback with Love and Kyrie benched.

@kwabenadonkor1865

3 жыл бұрын

I think yall fail to realize that kd uses all the shit talking from fans and media as fuel. Every time that man gets upset he balls. Ima need y'all and the media to doubt him heavily when he returns next season. We need that man upset all season long so we can get some 40 and 50 point games. Hopefully it leads to an mvp. Foreal keep going at him we need that chip in Brooklyn

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

@@kwabenadonkor1865 when KD fails he'll blame everyone except himself. Where every other superstar blames themselves for failure he always deflects. This a dude who couldn't be happy on the WARRIORS.

@kwabenadonkor1865

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 what? Kd has never been known as a bad teammate. Now you just reaching bro. Unless u actually talking about sport dont waste my time with silly comments. If you dont like kd ok cool. There is nothing I can do to help with how you feel about another man. U need a psychiatrist for that

@kwabenadonkor1865

3 жыл бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 keep it up though but make sure kd hears you as well. Like I said I need that dude upset all season long

KD robbing us of three years of prime, league-shredding, 2016 unanimous MVP level Steph Curry is just as bad as him wrecking league parity for those years. Steph took a backseat to incorporate KD and make him comfortable, but before KD came on Curry was doing things we'd never seen done before in the league.

He could have been in the same place of Charles Barkley : team was never good enough in his prime and got his ring stolen by the most dominant team of the generation and when he wanted to chase ring, he was past his prime and the dominant team that he thought could carry him just fell apart

@user-dd4hi2cl7y

3 жыл бұрын

"stolen"

@eljefe9140

3 жыл бұрын

Except his okc team was Dominant and choked when they shouldnt have

@ultibolt3286

3 жыл бұрын

@@eljefe9140 The suns were still dominant in 1994-95 season yet they choked a 3-1 lead in the second round

@davidfebreeze428

3 жыл бұрын

El Jefe okc was very good but I honestly never thought they would win it all

@tjt5055

3 жыл бұрын

And people respect Barkley a lot more. He traded his legacy for a couple of easy rings.

i really enjoyed watching the nba up until the warriors got kd. once they did i actually stopped watching for two years until this season. it just seemed like there was no point, you knew who was going to win. it’s like PSG in french soccer. they might put up amazing numbers, and their players make amazing plays, but they’re just so far above the competition that you know they’re going to win and it makes it all dull. i can’t blame kd for doing what he did, but it will change the way i see him and remember the warriors dynasty forever.

@parkergibb8005

3 жыл бұрын

And now kd build another super team by having harden tank and kyrie tank there values smh this guy is pathetic

@subairali8075

3 жыл бұрын

@@parkergibb8005 is he supposed to turn down harden lol

@Anthonydu01630

3 жыл бұрын

@@subairali8075 No but again it will hurt his legacy, the NETS are like 18-1 without him, this isnt fair and he can win 3 chip in a row i will not be impressed except if the Lakers or another teams form a superteam. Like if the lakers get Lillard, or the bucks get Doncic and Beal, then that would be fair and i would be impressed but now the NETS just have waaay more talents than any other teams.

@subairali8075

3 жыл бұрын

@@Anthonydu01630 you can say it won’t add a lot to his legacy, that’s fine, but to say it’ll hurt it is crazy. Their team is the most talented squad but they also have a lot of weaknesses. I still have the lakers beating them tho.

The difference between LBJ'S decision and Durant's was that he joined an already established team. With Lebron, we knew the Heat would be good but we didn't know what they truly were capable of, Golden State was already a championship contending team which makes Durant's move there even more snakey.

But still that Payton Manning joke on KD is still legendary and savage today

@cyrillesu

2 жыл бұрын

KD's reaction was absolute gold. He just stared at the camera, completely pissed off.

You deserve waaaaay more subscribers dude. Your content is A-1, please keep grinding man. These videos are dope

It seems like Durant has never understood that us hating his move to Golden State, was in fact a testament to his greatness. Like, if you ever wanted validation for your playing ability, that was it. The basketball community was disappointed precisely because of how amazing you were

These videos are so good, Clayton. I look forward to stealing some of your insight to flex on my friends when I get back to school. Thank you so much for every video you have put out and you are planning on putting out❤️

Dirk Diggler was definitely the correct reference to make there good job

My whole thing is that he said “ I’m tired of being second place”. Back then and even now when healthy KD is the 2nd best player in the world, but when Steph blew up winning back to back MVPs, one of them first unanimous, making 2 finals winning the first won after the Warriors 40 drought, ppl weren’t just saying he’s the 2nd best player in the world but their were ppl saying he’s the best in the world even over LeBron. So he didn’t have Bron to try to beat over, he also had Steph who was challenging him. And for him and Russ to choke him and for KD to join Steph who was challenging him for best or even 2nd best player just doesn’t feel right. As much as sum ppl try to say Bron was doing the same when joining Wade, it’s not. Dat would’ve been the case if Bron joined Pierce with the Celtics🤷🏽‍♂️💯

I was pretty triggered at him but it's his choice. He wanted to win ASAP so he acted upon it. i wish he could have gone to another team other than the one that beta him. But at the end of the day he is a 2x finals MVP, and no one can take that away from him.

@dman7774

3 жыл бұрын

@darkrainne 679 yea his team was significantly better... idk where Lebron came into what I said but yea. It took Lebron seven games to beat lower level eastern conference teams. Not that surprising they got swept....

@benn255b3

3 жыл бұрын

@darkrainne 679 swap players it'll be the same results, LBJ with 2 rings and 2 finals MVP. I'm sure KD would put up crazy numbers but so did LBJ. Nothing special what he did, now if he does that same with the Nets would be very special!

@justsayin669

3 жыл бұрын

@darkrainne 679 LeBron and the Cavs were also the only team to take a game off of the Warriors in the playoffs in 2017, so you can say that LeBron stopped 2 Warriors teams from being the most widely accepted greatest teams of all time in 2016 and then 2017. Then in 2018 LeBron's Cavs were as outmatched as any player's team has been in the Finals because he did such a great carry job to get them there where they faced the greatest constructed roster of all time. You can stop hating now and use logic.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsayin669 Cavs were the better team in 2016 they should have handled gs much easier and 2017 was fairly evenly matched. Gs plays smarter and better defense that's the difference. 2018 east was a joke. The champ was decided after the wcf.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

@@benn255b3 if you honestly think about it kd probably 3peats if you put him on those Miami teams instead of LeBron. Dallas strategy was to go under screens on LeBron. You can't do that with kd. Kd would win on those Cavs in 2016 as well with that spacing.

That video just aged like milk since Harden joined the Nets.

No matter how amazing KD is, still not giving him any credit for winning 2 with the warriors. People still give LeBron a ton of shit about the Heatles when they had to go through other teams almost as good and loaded. Meanwhile, GSW was already stacked as hell (2x mvp, 2x dpoy, best 3&D guy of all time) and KD went to that. The heatles weren't even as loaded as the 2015 warriors, in my opinion.

man,i just hope the injury doesn't affect him. i only started watching recently,so the whole moving out thing didn't affect me. but when i watched him, his basketball was special to me. and i really don't want that skill to fade out. i think there will be no other player close to kd,he's just that unique.

@zivuhz

3 жыл бұрын

couldn’t agree more

It still rubs me the wrong way that KD was considered the best player on the Hampton 5 Warrior's. Steph should get more credit. Durant is a great player, an amazing player, but the stats clearly show that Steph is the driver of that team. If you want to say that as an individual player that Durant is more talented, sure, but Steph's impact on the warriors is greater. And I would consider a player to be better if he gives a larger positive impact on his team.

@JonathanPaspula

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more I don’t get everyone focusing on Durant and ignoring the Offensive Maestro that Curry was

@socialistbatman1211

3 жыл бұрын

Steph is what drives the system but he is not and never will be better than Durant a day in his life.

@joco8587

3 жыл бұрын

@@socialistbatman1211 You should define what you mean by "better" before saying stuff like this.

@socialistbatman1211

3 жыл бұрын

@@joco8587 he is far more skilled than Steph. Is more complete offensively, and can play defense. The only thing Steph objectively can do better than him is playmake for others and move off the ball.

@joco8587

3 жыл бұрын

@@socialistbatman1211 Far more skilled is stretching it way too far. Steph is a better shooter Steph is a WAY better ball handler, 2nd best imo, 2nd to kyrie Steph is a better passer Oh and he's a better scorer, scoring more points per 75 and shooting more efficiently than KD in all of the 3 seasons that they were together. KD is a better defender and rebounder, but that's more because of his height rather than skill. Steph's game is predicated on skill, the man can't jump, he isn't a speedster. The only reason he is so lethal is because of his elite skill in shooting and playmaking.

Best up and coming sports channel on KZread! Love how compelling each video is.

As a cavs fan I hated it just seeing the league being pretty much put on hold To become a warriors show was agonizing But he could’ve went the Way of Charles Barkley a great player who choked away a three one lead to a champion, then lost his prime to a great team that never won then once he starts chasing rings he is too old to win

And KD really said he felt like Lebron passed the torch to him after he beat Cleveland with the warriors lol .that will forever be a weak move on his part. I respect his talent though

to me he'll always be remembered as second place. wasnt good enough to beat first so he joined them then still couldnt be the first option on the team. he made that speech and won his rings and fmvp but he has never been and will never be first.

Your Videos have an insane quality, please continue your work! I watch a lot of KZread Basketball, but no other channel combines such a voice with this video itself and the content of your thoughts. Looking forward to every new video of you.

This is the first video I’ve seen from you man and I just want to say keep at it! The quality is insane you’re going to skyrocket can’t wait to watch tour channel grow.

He will be remembered as a weak cupcake always. Especially now that he has done a very similar move joining up with Kyrie Harden DJ and Griffin (and maybe more when all is said and done). A BK ring seems almost inevitable. But failing to win a ring with BK will also invalidate the GS years and make him look even weaker.

@roboninja3194

3 жыл бұрын

And Brooklyn lost in the second round 🤣

@MarekPar743

3 жыл бұрын

@@roboninja3194 funnily enough that BKN loss against Bucks might help KD's case. That was basically one man carry job, that was foot away from the greatest single player series in modern basketball. It actually showed that KD doesnt need Harden or Kyrie.

It's frustrating how narratives can often alter the way we actually see basketball. I keep hearing that Durant became this incredible transcendentally efficient player in Golden State, but only a few talk about the way defenses could handle him in OKC compared to Golden State. Sure he got better, he became way more engaged difensively and a way better two way player. But offensively it was more or less the same player, a player that became way less efficient when a defense can load up on him. In golden state when he was playing without Curry his efficiency stats dropped to his OKC level. He still is the amazing scorer and good-not-great playmaker that he was in OKC. And now, once people will see those stats drop again in Brooklyn, I will hear main stream media say that he isn't the same after the injury.

@rygesa

3 жыл бұрын

People have taken the false narrative that KD was the best player on GS and run with it. Your correct observations dont fit with that so people ignore or miss them.

You’re a great writer! The way you word your arguments is always very well spoken and poetic in a way. Especially how you end your videos! Great content man! Keep it up!

You do such great work, and for a relatively new NBA YTer. My guy, you are an inspiration. Please keep up the good work.

"They went 73-9." And they didn't win the title. Somehow people always conveniently leave that part out 😉 And we all saw what happened in Brooklyn when KD didn't have 2 Hall of Fame teammates playing along side him. He loses in the 2nd round. KD is not a winner and will never be "thee guy" who leads his team to a title.

No. Why would you be mad at kd? Kd wanted to win and went to a winning team instead with lebron. Players used to do this back then. Early years of the nba teams were stacked

@hawthornedouglas

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, I'd rather have this timeline than one where Durant ends up being the next Barkley, Nash, or Miller. Greats who never won.

@Isaiah_McIntosh

3 жыл бұрын

@@hawthornedouglas exactly

Heyyyy Man in the Arena!!! You see it. Your Lebron vid going be amazing. You should include that quote

As a fan I hated that move, I wanted the "tie breaker" in 2017 between the Cavs and the Warriors

And (gotta say this because I've heard the comparison and I just don't buy it) KD to the Warriors was NOT like LBJ to the Heat. For two reasons-- 1) The Cavs sucked, and the roster around LeBron was NOT going to win it all. The Thunder were a legit good team, and with some decent luck had a chance to win a championship every year. 2) The Heat pre LeBron were an OK team, 47-35, 5th in the east. The Warriors pre-KD, well everyone knows about that team. Lebron didn't join a historically great team, one that could have likely won multiple championships without him. The 2016 Warriors were already historically stacked, adding KD just made the following 3 years boring. I mean, I'm not happy at all that he or KT got hurt. Really, I'm never happy to see athletes get hurt. But we all knew that was the only chance any team other than the warriors had a chance of winning. Miami with LBJ only went 2-2, only one of those championships felt inevitable. The 2013 and 2014 Spurs were an equally good team, and the 2013 series was the second best series of the entire decade (we all know which was the first).

Steph was the best player on the Warriors, imo

@Jp-nj3rp

3 жыл бұрын

If its defense clutch shots its durant and more unguardable than steph

This is the second video where ive seen footage from that big 'we are all witnesses' banner falling down. i cant find the actual source tho, i only find sources of the banners that are carefully dismantelt and not just falling like that. can i ask where you got that video from?

man your content is great and the narration is funny, insightful and honest. just keep it up man

Steph was still the best player on those Warrior teams.

@rygesa

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Good on KD for taking advantage of being the 2nd option but Steph was the one who still got double teamed not KD making him the 1st option(best player) in opposing teams eyes.

yeah he can't play without two more stars

Your videos are just so well made, man. Well done.

Really great video mate!

If Durant won 6 Finals MVPs on that stacked Warriors team, all of them combined still wouldn’t be as impressive as LeBron’s 2016 Finals MVP

@itzwakk335

3 жыл бұрын

@kevin durant facts

@tahs1817

3 жыл бұрын

@kevin durant lmfaooooooo the kd burner showed up

@JustAJok3r

3 жыл бұрын

kevin durant bro u didn’t even change the name this time, ur getting sloppy

@camdonking1919

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry damn bro, you throwing too many facts out lol

@ralx225b

3 жыл бұрын

@Ovtcry While I do agree KD's biggest issue was Westbrook and Roberson, and Lebron had a lot of stuff go his way and I'm a huge KD fan I do not see KD coming back from a deficit that big. KD is not a great leader, he is just the greatest all around scorer in NBA history.

What are you talking about "there weren't moments where Durant clearly showed his dominance." They had a ton insane games and clutch moments where he put Golden State on his back because their other stars couldn't get it done.

@bucketsniper5488

3 жыл бұрын

L

Wow just wow ! All your video essays are amazing. Your voice. Your story. Your perspective is absolutely amazing. Keep up the amazing work

He's an all-time great player but the "I couldn't beat them so I joined them" part of joining Golden State will always be part of his legacy. LeBron got a lot of heat (no pun intended) for going to Miami but eventually the hatred subsided and he won titles. My guess is Kevin thought this would happen to him but the hatred never subsided and everyone just thought it was a weak and corny move.

The thing about KD is that he’s always the most human. You can tell through his twitter account, handling fame and losing when you know you’re great is tough

Even after KD joined that was always Currys team. They would’ve won without him.

@parkergibb8005

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

Good stuff as always

Your videos are the best audio documentaries I could ask for

Everyone roots for you until you make it.

@king_supreme1102

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone roots for you until you make the pussiest move in sports history and take the easiest possible road to make it

His decision destroyed the sport in all honesty. Those two years that they were all healthy i did not watch a single playoff game not even highlights... It just is not interesting when you know who is going to win without a shred of a doubt. They were the opposite of non competitive, no team had a shot against them so a lot of fans me included lost interest.

@MrPainfulTruth

3 жыл бұрын

No, that was LeBron's decision years earlier. He broke the seal.

Love your videos

I get jittery when I see you post a new vid. Loving the content man keep it up

you know what,honestly I can’t be mad at him anymore, it’s old, outdated, and I’ve come to accept that he was desperate for success

@eljefe9140

3 жыл бұрын

Im just glad the boring days where It was certain who would win the chip are finally over

@pierrelol8229

3 жыл бұрын

El Jefe,I know, pretty much everyone is, even if they were fans of the best team who won every year, it’s not fun, not for the fans nor the players

@chocomint8261

3 жыл бұрын

SenseiJa I'm a warriors fan and I like KD, don't get me wrong, but I wish he never joined GS because he fucked up his legacy, Curry's legacy and everyone else on the warriors' legacy.

@HighStakesBBall

3 жыл бұрын

Not mad at him, hut its a permanent stain that wont go away.

Fans: *poke fun at great players for not getting a ring* Also fans: *get mad at kd for getting a ring*

@professionalcurrysexual9289

3 жыл бұрын

This is what I never got

@anonymoususer2080

3 жыл бұрын

They're not mad kd got a ring, they're mad he ruined parity and joined the team that had the best record in nba history without him

I've made three videos on my channel totalling about 50 minutes in watch time where I try to air my grievances with KD's move to Golden State, and in this 12 minute video you've managed to articulate and state everything I tried to but in a much more concise and effective manner. Another top-quality video dude

Man the consistency of quality of these videos is impressive as hell. one thing i've never understood is the attitude you'll see online of "you can't be mad at him for his decision, he REALLY wanted to get a ring so he went and got one! Anyone would do the same thing is his position" like OOOH okay, well if he WANTED a ring then that changes everything? Fans talking shit about you and disrespecting your "legacy" is kinda just the price you gotta pay if you make the decision he made imo and it's such a small one at that- i can't begrudge anyone still being salty.

@brendanbloom3366

3 жыл бұрын

If your a LeBron fan you can't be mad at him other than the fact he cost LeBron rings. You can't criticize his move though considering all the players LeBron has and has tried to team up with. If your an OKC fan same thing. He did so much to help their community and they were lucky to even have him when he should've been in Seattle. They've never in their history won a playoff series without him which other franchise can you say that about?

Man, I gotta say, as a Warriors fan, I could not care less if people didn't like Durant coming or not. I sat through some of the worst teams, dealt with some of the worst owners, and was assaulted by some of the dumbest front office moves growing up. When Steph brought us back to the promise land, it was one of my happiest moments as a sports fan in general. The fact that I got to see Kevin Durant play basketball in a Warriors jersey with my own eyes, is something I will always treasure. I get why people might be upset, but using Durant showing up as tainting the legacy of a team that did so much, is BS to me. Y'all can stay mad if you want, but i'm confident even if we didn't have him we would have one at least one more of those championships, if not both.

@josephhanicak7922

2 жыл бұрын

Guess what? It will always taint the legacy of the warriors, KD, and Steph. All we're left with is what-ifs. It is very likely that Steph would've won a ring even if KD hadn't joined, and it's almost certain that he would've gotten a finals MVP. But KD did join the Warriors, Steph didn't win a ring against a healthy opponent without KD, and he still doesn't have a finals MVP. I can completely understand your perspective, and I can respect it. But to pretend like it won't forever taint the legacy of the 2010's Warriors is simply naive. KD joining robbed you of any chance at making a claim as a dynasty. The team was simply unfair. To add a top 2 player to a team that won 73 games is a topic for a 2k what if video, and it's still hard to believe that it actually happened. I'm glad that you got to see your franchise succeed, and I agree that seeing KD playing on the Warriors is a generational moment, but it cost so much. It ruined basketball for 2 years. Took the suspense out of the game, and made it a joke.

@whisk3896

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it was a dynasty, just not something id get behind.

Durant still a soft-ass player to me. Awesome yes, but soft.

Simply put, durant's 2 championships are worth less than any nba championship in nba history. He joined the one team in the west he couldn't beat (that also happened to be one of the greatest teams ever assembled) and then showed that his presence on the team was largely inconsequential bc they still won a championship after him with a much less talented roster. KD's legacy is that of an insanely talented hooper who in his pursuit of building a GOAT level legacy, made sure that he would never be regarded in such a conversation. He is the NBA's icarus. Its strangely poetic

I was never mad at Durant. I understood him and think he made the right decision. He didn’t want to be like Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Steve Nash, or Tracy McGrady and have a ringless NBA legacy. I’m not a Warriors fan, I would say the same thing if any other player did something similar.

steph was the best player on that team cmon

@thomasbrady3827

3 жыл бұрын

If not the best the most important. The plus minus data says that the Warriors without Curry we’re significantly worse then the Warriors without Durant

Didn’t Kerr say it was game 6 2019 vs Houston that was his favorite? He said it on the Book of Basketball 2.0 podcast last year.

I don’t still hate him, but I’ll forever hate the move. There’s no overstating how egregious it was for a top 3 player to link up with a top 3 all time team.

great writing. keep going

Arguing that the Cavs pulled off "the greatest upset in history" ignores a key event: the post-game-4 upgrade of Draymond Green's foul from a double technical (LeBron stepped over Draymond, Draymond hit LeBron) to a flagrant that resulted in Draymond's suspension. If that didn't happen, it's likely the Warriors finish it off in 5. But that game 5 without Draymond flipped the whole momentum of the series, and with later-game injuries to Andrew Bogut and Andre Iguodala--key pieces of the Warriors' always-underappreciated defense--the series would probably have gone very differently. That being said, I think we also have to compare a Warriors-joining Durant to a hypothetical Durant who stayed in OKC and never won a ring. Is he more respected in the latter situation? I don't think so.

@querubensarabia5669

3 жыл бұрын

He’s more respected just because by staying with one team for so long, he’s automatically compared to Timmy, Kobe, and Dirk.

@yoda112358

3 жыл бұрын

@@querubensarabia5669 But all those guys won championships while staying loyal. If KD stays with OKC and never wins a championship, he's more like Nash, Iverson, or Barkley.

@querubensarabia5669

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoda112358 true, but i mean is that such bad company to be a part of? hed be compared to Karl and Stockton rather than them tbh. But honestly, if a player wants to be considered one of the all time greats you just don't make that move. Mj never went to the pistons, Lebron didn't go to Boston, Kobe didn't go to the Spurs, Larry and Magic were never teammates

Naw Clayton you cant use the whole "oh the Heat were a new team arguement" because that was the exact same thing KD and the warriors had to figure out when they lost Bogut, Barnes, Speights, Barbosa and Ezeli. valueble rotation pieces.

Great vid. Thanks

Are we going to ignore how beautiful Clayton's videos are..., it's like lying on the bed and having your mom read you lullabies... Damn..!! It's sweet..!! The ending of his videos just sounds like some award winning poem. Nice one bro...

i think most of the hate came from his statement when he signed with them back in 2016, taking the hardest road. just admit that you wanted an easy ring, don't mask it by saying joining a 73-9 team is difficult. he thought people would love him despite his decision, he thought he wouldn't be villainized. he even called his agent after the announcement backlash saying "why the fuck did you let me do this to my life?", he wanted everyone to praise him. if you signed with the warriors, embrace the villain role and run with it, just like lebron with the heat. after the meltdown in 2011, he stopped caring and listening to the noise. KD cared way too much about what people said about him, he couldn't handle the pressure. you don't see lebron out here with burner accounts on twitter trying to argue with teens online. he doesn't care, he doesn't need their validation.

KDs reaction when winning the championship shows it all. i swear you could just feel he wasn't truely satisfied because he knew he took the cheap way out. I dont think he left to show the haters he could do it properly, i think he left to show himself.

I don't know KD still will be a Hall of Famer but I really wish he could've been a franchise player.

I was never mad at him to begin with. I didn’t agree with his decision because I KNEW he really didn’t NEED GSW to win. He just needed to get away from Westbrook

@nbayoungboy1059

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think its fair to put all the blame on westbrook when they both choked that series against GSW. I remember watching those last 3 games and thinking, wth is wrong with these dudes. They've been railing every team they play and seemed ungaurdable and all of a sudden they're taking more shots than points they even scored. It was embarrassing.

@Bob-eo6uh

3 жыл бұрын

Gavino Montano I’m not referring to JUST THAT SERIES. It’s nearly impossible to win with Westbrook on your team. Yes they would’ve always been contenders but they always would have come up just short unless they added another superstar.

@nbayoungboy1059

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bob-eo6uh could you elaborate more on what exactly makes Westbrook this unwinnable factor

@Bob-eo6uh

3 жыл бұрын

Gavino Montano He didn’t know how to let KD be the ALPHA DOG and he tried to do too much. I would watch him grab rebounds or get the inbound pass and sprint down the court and chuck up stupid shots and give the opposing to the ball back in less than 2 seconds.

@Fahronaces

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree if Westbrook was the only thing holding him back and he didn't need Golden State to win why not go to literally any other team. the most disappointing thing about him going to Golden State was that I believed he was talented enough to beat them. Now we'll never really know if he could have done it or not. KD wanted to prove he was the best player in Basketball that he wasn't second best to Lebron, but because he joined that Warriors team Lebron was able to do something Kevin Durant was never able to do defeat the Warriors.

That’s one of the main things; I go back and watch 90s Bulls highlights, 2000s Lakers highlights, even 2010s Heat highlights, but I feel ZERO interest in watching Warriors highlights when they had KD. I’d rather watch a Charlotte Hornets game. It just feels soulless.

I think Steph Curry may be the most underrated player of all time

@kyemerchant5455

3 жыл бұрын

No way all I heard about a few years ago was curry. He was the most popular player then too

You deserve more subs man! quality content

Great Boogie Nights reference Clayton!

KD: I'm tired of being second. *Joins the warriors where he is the second best player on his own team*

@christianr1941

3 жыл бұрын

Kd was better than curry during thoes chips

@ramnsesallen4375

3 жыл бұрын

Better? maybe, More important? Hell No!

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

Durant is better than Curry

@camdonking1919

3 жыл бұрын

U think they would have made the finals last year without Curry???

@austin5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@camdonking1919 yes, they're the warriors, no team is beating Kevin Durant plus shooters except for the warriors with KD and Curry

its funny how grown men get mad at athletes for making good decisions in entertainment sports

@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of it cause they Bron fans. Look at the excuses he making for Bron superteam? Who fault is that KD didn't go to 7(even though he did against the Rockets). Only reason Spurs series went 7 was cause Bron was struggling against the Spurs the first 5 games

God damn I enjoyed this video. Please keep making content like this

incredible video, subscribed

*second best player on the *second greatest team of all time

the 73-9 warriors are probably the most overrated team in any sport i have ever seen. people act like them losing in finals is surprising even after all the injuries and other shit that had to happen for cavs to win, the real question is: how did the wariors go 3-1 up?? there isnt a single person on planet earth who would pick a team with steph klay and draymond over lebron kyrie and love. next season nobody will expect steph klay and draymond to win title,just to highlight the hypocrisy. they traded their 73-9 team to get kd cuz they needed him and ppl act surprised by it..

@austinclubb2093

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't star piwer alone that made them 73-9, they had the deepest roster possibly in nba history. Heck, Barbosa and Livingston popped off in one of the games as like the 10th and 11th people in the rotation. They were an all time great defensive team that could also drop 140. An unanimous MVP and defensive player of the year and a 6th man of the year candidate. Harrison Barnes and Bogut were playing the best basketball of their careers, so on and so forth. It's not all about star power, theu deserve their praise.

@lughano5253

3 жыл бұрын

@@austinclubb2093 yes they had a great team with loads of great role players but basketball is so easily influenced by 1 star which is why they traded all those parts for KD.Kd alone was better than their entire depth and role players because he made their starting lineup unbeatable, u dont need a great bench when ur unbeatable. wariors barely beat a cavs team without love and kyrie and somehow people expected them to win when they returned? kd was signed to win them chips and he did.

whos here after superteam was formed in brooklyn with harden. Jesus christ. im sorry he cant prove himself now. I was ready to see an actual 2v2 with bron and ad, not a 3v2 or 5v2 again. damn

you are THE best nba channel on youtube. and trust me i watch them all lmao