feel free to ask and questions in the comments below

@Dusk3e

2 жыл бұрын

i have a 3d printer, i wonder if i could design a wad like for a shotgun but for a 44cal cylinder. only question would be, would you rather have it like a cup to hold the shot, or like how you use the cardboard and just hold the back? edit, i made a 44cal wad at 1.20mm tall (which is about 2x thickness of soda box cardboard, but i dont think the little puck form would ima try and design a cup type i guess?

I originally started carrying an 1860 Colt replica just for the shot load capability for hunting in the swamp many years ago. That was before the Taurus Judge came out. I find a .44 cal percussion revolver more effective that CCI shot loads for revolvers. For .44 cal, I use 20 grains of Pyrodex P, an over powder lubed wad, #5 lead shot compressed, and an over shot lubed wad. For .36 cal, 15 grains Pyrodex P, an over powder lubed wad, #9 shot compressed, and an over shot lubed wad. .44 cal is a more effective load, especially in a Colt Dragoon or a Walker. Same load for a Colt or Remington revolver. Cap and ball revolvers are very versatile! Follow Blackie's safety advice. Don't shoot too close to your feet or unintended target, and don't shoot plywood because the pellets can bounce back. Use eye protection.

@bobnesler4271

Жыл бұрын

I use # 12 shot for snakes. I have tried #5, of course, but the donut pattern reduces the pattern on target at ten yards. #12 is ultra-light, but, due to the intense pattern, takes out timber and sidewinders well on Scout outings.

My guess is old Sam the Serpent ain't much going to like the taste of that shot.

I bet the 47 Walker would be ideal for a load like this!

You answered my live trap dilemma For large biting vermin.

Think I’ll try it wit couscous first ,hornets are devastating my lilac trees

Great info Blackie! This process along with Guns of the West paper cartridges make things a little easier to carry other than a .410 SG…

Hi Blackie, did not know you could load shot into a black powder revolver. Thank you, great information.👍

Encore une excellente vidéo dans laquelle tout est parfaitement expliqué. Même si on ne parle pas bien anglais, on arrive à comprendre car tu t'exprimes lentement. Merci

Once you get the powder charge dialed-in you could cut a dowel to compress the powder with the rammer

What size shot do you use? I would assume #9 or smaller?

Blackie , I don't own a Percussion revolver yet, but will probably change. Great Video and Outstanding Information as I have said many times You Are The Master Woodsman And Bushcrafter and you don't mind passing on the knowledge . Thank Again, Tim L.

Good Safety Tip on the Cyl. Gap, this also applies to any Revolvers. I recently had my Pietta 1860 Army out trying to Sight it in and wasn't thinking about the Gap. 25 grains of GOEX FFFg puts out a very Hot flame and I ended up setting my shooting bag I had under the Muzzle on fire, I spent about an hour and a half picking up about 200 little plastic pellets so as not to litter,

Use'e' the red dot. 6 grains, and primers will work if you add a few specks of powder inside the primer, and or wadding that can hold powder tight to the primer nipple. 6 grains will work well and safe for just about any load in any newly made 1851. And probably quite a bit more but 6 grains of red dot or shotgun powder works well.

Can't wait to try, always kinda wondered if I could

I don’t even own one a revolver. But I support Blackie, so I made sure to watch (as I do every video) as well as like it. If you get to read this Blackie, Thanks for all the knowledge. I’ve made a lot of progress from your wisdom. Keep them coming! Ps love to cooking videos

Great video! Thank you for putting them out.

Maybe I missed it, what type of shot are you using?

Great info love all your videos

Good job Blackie. This is an interesing creative practical, insightful idea of making your own Snake Shot charges for use in a percussion revolver. The painted Soda Carton paper looks like an effective wadding material. Author Hovey Smith, has used Paper Egg Carton and Styrofome Egg and Meat carton material as a Wadding materal for various percussion cap&ball revolver charges. Snake Pellet/ BB loades for C&B revolvers has been on my mind for some time. I will be also conducting tests of various methods of Snake Shot loades to include Pellet/BB loades in Combustable Paper Cartridges made from Thin Bakers Wax Paper for percussion cap&ball revolvers.

Blackie, you are the Best!

Thank you for the lessons here. Good to know that it"s a safe load if properly assembled. Good day.

Good info, Blackie. Thanks.

Finally someone that goes to look at the target after the first shot ! I don't know how many snake shot cartridge video's I've seen where the guy shoots 2 or 3 shots into the target and then says it is a workable load. Thank you Blackie !!!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

my pleasure

Excellent, thank you for posting.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Great info Sir!

I just made some for 45 acp the other day, exactly like this, but I put a smidgen of glue on the over shot card

For shotguns equal weight of powder and shot is a good starting point. You will find this is pretty matched. In 12g a 1 ounce / 1 ounce is good. in 20g it 3/4 to 3/4 I'd say 1/2 oz and 1/2oz is probley a max load for a .44 But I also don't believe in bird shot for snakes. In my option and experience #4 shot is best for snakes. Bird shot #7, or #8 is terrible. As is 00 buck. #6 will work, but #4 is far better. Never tried #2 Oh and the most interesting shot I used was dried navy beans. It worked at about 10 feet. But not something I'd use unless you have nothing else. Long story. But the short version is. The snake was right outside the door. The only thing I had was a flintlock pistol .68 cal, powder and the navy beans. oh and one angry rattler at the bottom of the steps.

was you useing #9 shot or something smaller?

I venture that a Dragoon or even a Walker would give you more room to work with in building a birdshot load.

Huh never tried this before. Guess I will have to now. :)

Love your vids. Excellent presentation and content, with plenty of variations. Speaking of such, I have a hat very much similar to the one you have...scalp oils and all...how's about a vid explaining how to get those oils out...i have not figured out how to recondition my hat ! Thnx

Hay Blacky try going to a drug store and get you some pill making jelliton capsules that are about 36 cal. After you have powder and wax seated in a chamber take one half of a jell capsule ( trimmed to properly length) fill capsule with shoot and insert into chamber. If not a tight fit put a wax wad or paper wad on top to stop capsule and shot from falling out. The jell capsule seems to hold the shot longer together like a shotgun wad and won't blow thru the shot. The empty jell capsule's come in a couple different sizes. They worked for me. Thanks for your videos and your info on BP and woods craft.

Blackie could you use a felt tip wad to put on top ? Or would that cause a problem ?

The "Blackie Atackie" 😆 🤣

Helos watching you Blackie.

Every time I go into the wood I load 5shots 3 = round ball or conical and 2 = birdshot. Ball, birdshot, ball, ball birdshot…

Would a hard vegetable (cork) wad do the same thing as the paper or does it need it to have some "give" to it?

Nice

@blackoracle69

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Have you solved the "donut pattern" problem due to the rifling in the revolver?

Would like to see this in a test Blackie maybe a soda can or canned food or bake potatoes love ur videos bud thanks 😊

Great video! Never tried it yet, have been meaning to do so. Along these lines, have you or have you seen anyone use the .36 Colt bullet through a .410 shotgun? I currently load BP .410 loads with 3 x .380 balls (full choke gun >.380, I think it's actually .395) and have a lot of fun with these. At 10 yards, will often stack the balls through a single hole, and 15 yards about a 6" spread, and at 20 yards, between 6 and 8 inch spread. With 22 gr pyrodex, the individual balls seem to have more visible destructive force than 9 mm ball rounds through my Canik! Thanks again!

Great video Blackie even with all the understandable disclaimers and admonishments. I was wondering if a pre-made shot package would work? Similar to Buck and Ball shot wrapped in paper ,minus the "ball". Say just using # 4 , #6 #7 ,etc shot wrapped in a pre made up paper projectile.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

I have tried making those but hey will fly to target as a solid ( most of the times)

@Curtislow2

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 That is what I suspected THX.

@Curtislow2

2 жыл бұрын

BTW, I have downloaded about 99% of your BP videos and saved them on Jump Drives for all my son and grandsons. Comes to about 5G's . With that and Mike Beliveau's videos I can get some great stocking suffers on 10G drives. Thank you again for your great content.

Sir, this is great, Thank you, and if I may, permission to download? I have been waiting on this, but now that I have seen it, it has left me with even more questions. Have you ever tried heavier shot packed in wax? I am not even close to being as good a shot as you are, so the heavier shot might work for squirrel and rabbits. Maybe, I haven't tried it yet.

That's a hand cannon right there.

Should you also use grease on the cylinders to prevent the other cylinders from firing prematurely

In the 30s my grandfather as a kid in East Texas snuck out the family Colt 32-20 revolver. He wrapped his left hand around the cylinder and let one rip. Said it hurt so bad and was bruised, he stuck his hand in the creek for a while to ease the pain. Lesson learned!!!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

yep i saw a 357 held against a leg to brace for a long shot ..it cut thru the heavy canvas pants and gave him 6 stiches to close it

@Curtislow2

2 жыл бұрын

Great story. Someone should do a book or video of collected stories like this. I have a similar story with a Winchester 94 in my early hunting days.

@BrockNessMonster1991

3 ай бұрын

@@Curtislow2- I know your comment is 2 years old but I would love to hear your Winchester 94 story

@Curtislow2

3 ай бұрын

@@BrockNessMonster1991 It's definitely a great learning story. But not one I am proud to repeat. Lets leave it with how easy it is to have AD using a Win style action.

@BrockNessMonster1991

3 ай бұрын

@@Curtislow2 - haha understood, thank you 🙏🏻

I was just thinking about this. As shot rounds are hard to find.

Wassuh my guy

our 99 cent store sells cork disks on a sheet but they have adhesive on one side.

Ask someone who hunts with a black powder shotgun! You load volume for volume loads! Birdshot in a rifle barrel don't work!! The shot spins in a donut pattern around the target!!!

what would be wrong with using felt wads and bb's

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

they tend to walk forward when you shoot another chamber or in a holster muzzle down the jar of walking can cause them to creap forward

@jerrystanley6820

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackoracle69 how you fell about bbs too hard on rifling maybe

Can you mix cornmeal with the shot under the overshot card as a buffer?

Putting shot load in smooth bore pepperbox. Pietta has a single action pepperbox on 36 caliber revolver with elongated cylinder. Would that work for snake loads?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

it should

Blackie, my Ruger Old Army shoots high with .45 Colt in a Krist conversion cylinder. Should I have a tall front sight put on it? Of course, this happens at closer ranges. I know the heavier bullets exit the barrel slower and recoil affects the accuracy.

What range would you get from this load? Could one get a squirrel 20-30 feet up a tree? Thanks

What’s a good first black powder pistol. Army ?

I have used gas checks to make a shot column and used 8's ,6's,and 4's from shotgun shells, any work. to buy 9 or 12 shot will be 2 lifetime supply.

Do I understand correctly? .36 uses FFFF and .44 is FFF powder with this load?

Can you use BB's

Have you tried a 45 cal shot cup?

@denisdegamon8224

2 жыл бұрын

It should work.

I wonder how well this would work with 4.5mm bbs

What if you put wax in with the shot to hold it in better?

@MrRourk

2 жыл бұрын

That is what I was thinking

@James-dq3jo

2 жыл бұрын

Then the shot will hold together all the way to the target, with no spread. This would defeat the purpose of loading it with shot in the first place.

@KevinSmith-os5yz

2 жыл бұрын

@@James-dq3jo I think as soon as the powder ignites the pressure will separate it all, not sure though.

@James-dq3jo

2 жыл бұрын

@@KevinSmith-os5yz It won't. But don't just take my word for it, try it out for yourself (legally & safely, of course).

@wadekirby8575

2 жыл бұрын

Wax slugs are made like that for smokeless powder shotguns. (By taking a cheep bird shot shell and adding wax to the shot to make a cheep slug.)

I think I'll just keep snake shot for my smooth bore flintlock pistol

what size shoot did you use?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

#8

@KH2837

2 жыл бұрын

I just asked this....sorry..lol

@denny45acp

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, at today's shot prices, I can't buy a hole lot of bags of shot to play with. And as you did all the research and testing,I want to tap into your thoughts.

Why not regular wads

I want to do this to kill red squirrels at about 6 yards. I have a 1977 Ruger Old Action Army stainless. It's a rifled barrel not a smooth bore. Not sure if that's a problem.

I wanted to see what it did to a tatter.

If black powder revolvers were a religion you would be it's god!!! Thank you

@stevetodd693

2 жыл бұрын

It is, he is.

Wouldn't this destroy the rifling or no? The only way I'd see that this wouldn't damage the rifling is if you use lead shot but even then if you're shooting lead shot all the time I assume it'd ruin the rifling.

@floppinfish

2 жыл бұрын

Lead shot is perfectly fine. It's really soft. Definitely will need to really scrub the barrel though if you put a lot through. Or just shoot some regular rounds through after and I found it cleans it up good.

I may of missed it. What shot size are you using, or prefer?

@blackoracle69

Жыл бұрын

#8 is my usual choice