Shorty 6.5 Creedmoor (16”)- Real world performance
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Often times you hear that a shorter barrel 6.5 creedmoor rifle will not be able to consistently shoot long range due to the reduced velocity from the shorter barrel. I decided to get myself a 16" 6.5 creedmoor barrel and hit the range to gather real world performance data. Join me as I document my experience pushing a 16" 6.5cm barrel out to and beyond 1000 yds!
Instagram: mountainsmulletsmerica
Rifle details:
- Pristine action .308 bolt face
- Outlier 16" 6.5cm barrel, 1/8" twist
- MDT XRS chassis
- Timney 2 stage trigger
Scope
- Arken EP5 5-25
Suppressor
- Ottercreek labs Hydrogen L
Ammo
- Winchester 140gr match factory load
- Ally munitions 135gr ATIP load
00:00 Intro
01:17 Gear review
06:29 100yd performance review
09:04 325 yds
09:59 650 yds
11:54 1025 yds- Win 140gr
15:07 1025 yds- Ally 135gr atip
16:55 1265 yds- Ally 135gr atip
19:22 Shooting review
24:00 Summary of my thoughts
26:45 Closing comments
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Man. You are by far the only gun KZread channel I’m looking forward to new videos of. Great work
@coltcomphbar
7 ай бұрын
My buddy text me one of his zero videos last week. I had not heard if this channel at the time. Since then I have been “binge” watching his videos. Ifs a ton of great information. No BS
I’d be interested to see what it looks like on the chrono after some more rounds down the tube. That said we really developed that 135 a tip for longer barrels. Thinkin we can get those numbers better with a short barrel optimized offering. Regardless fantastic shooting and great content as always.
Literally watching your channel grow has been a real treat. Youre doing great man, keep up the good work.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the support! The channel has had a lot of growth recently and I’m very thankful. I’ve got a ton of new content in the works so hope you’ll continue tuning in! Also don’t forget to share with your buddies!
I had my 24" Savage 110 Tactical LH in 6.5 creedmoor cut down to 18.5" and rethreaded. Totally worth it.
The 135Atip is magic in my 65CM. 26” barrel pushing them around 2860. It seems to cheat the wind and stays supersonic to 1400+ Cool video
This convinced me to get a 16” 6.5 I was already thinking about it based on the benefits of a compact rifle, but kind of skeptical. Thank you for spending the time and money to make this awesome video
Great shooting. There aren’t many videos about 16” 6.5cm so I appreciate it. Just recently ordered a Howa 1500 16.25” 6.5cm with heavy bull barrel a couple of weeks ago and that thing is incredible fun to shoot. Planning on removing the original hogue stock and putting on a xlr elemental 4.0 chassis and make it my primary backpack rifle for hunting.
Keep growing the channel- good stuff as always.
Love your videos. Please keep them coming
Fabulous content. Love the consistency.
You do really good videos, informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
Liking and commenting for the algorithm. Love the channel, man! Keep it up, we really appreciate the amount of work you put into this.
I love long range shooting. I look forward to more of your videos. Very well explained and the detail you show is vary educational. Thank you
Good video, very informative with all your different setups and tests for us
Awesome content! I’m a big fan of 16 inch 308/6.5cm with full size suppressor set ups. Makes it more manageable with all benefits of being suppressed.
Fantastic presentation. Your thought processes is very informative, many thanks.
Another great video very informative. The most articulate person out there👍
Great analysis. I appreciate the rig setup and description.
Interesting content with good information. Your shooting technique is great. Love seeing the wide open Palouse country. Keep the videos coming, please.
Love your breakdowns! SCIENCE!
Man i could just set and watch you shoot all day. Im rooting for you in every shot. Love the channel. So glad i found it
I appreciate your content and insight.
very cool. love the video. i'm impressed what you were able to do with that short barrel! this gives me more confidence to get my creed barrel chopped.
Super. This guy goes straight to the point. No BS, no music.
Big shoutout to Ally Munitions. Those guys are great, great podcast, and I'm excited that they're sponsoring guys like you that continuously put out great content.
Really impressive shooting. I also love to see recommendations on new ammo. I don't push my 6.5 out to those distances, but it is nice to see what a capable marksman can do with a solid rifle and good ammo.
Great camera setups! !Gracias!
Your channel kicks ass bro, it has quickly become my favorite shooting channel on youtube. I recently gained access to a range where we can get out to 1350 yards. I see a big difference in bullet selection with my 6.5 CM at extended range. The 135 A-Tips are on my short list to try, so far I'm most impressed with Berger 140 Hybrid Target bullets. Regarding the Hornady A-Tip, I like that as a handloader, I can likely gain some speed by dropping down to the 135's. I'm currently around 2,800 FPS with a 24" barrel using RL16 with the Bergers. As you said consistent velocity is huge. I'm trying to keep my SD under 10 FPS, still a work in progress.
Literally KILLIN that target at 1025 yrds...split times were pretty incredible!!! Love your videos man!
I'm really impressed with the performance you're getting out of this package! I'm building a 22" gas gun and starting to reconsider continuing. Lots of food for thought - many thanks!
That rifle look just stunning!
One of my favourite long range shooting channels. I've actually taken a lot from your video's that has helped me improve my own shooting.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Really cool to hear you’re finding value in my videos! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies.
Great channel and approach to things. You’ve got me considering a test rifle like this.
Outstanding, thanks
My favorite barrel length for 5.56, 6.5CM and. 308 is 18". Great video and great shooting. Keep killing it.
I’m glad you’re talking through your holds cause I’ve never used mils and seeing it in practical use really helps
You make very well done videos, all information is very clearly explained and editing is top notch thanks for sharing...
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate the compliments and support! Lots of fresh content coming soon so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies.
135 Atip is an excellent bullet in 6.5cm. I’ve been very impressed with its performance at long range. Well worth the price and far and away one of the best in 6.5cm. Excellent videos!
Dope work as always,I appreciate showing all the misses and makes and what you need to correct them.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
You know most of the learning happens when you miss…. Really trying to use my channel to level set expectations for long range shooting. Misses are going to happen…. Knowing what to do when you miss is one of the most valuable skills in the long range world.
Another great video!!
Very impressive. I think people get tangled up with velocity differences vs target shooting. It's just fun seeing what the bullet can do.
Another very interesting video. Great shooting in some windy conditions.
Thanks for another great video.
Superb video, and performance !! Subscribed !!
You definitely change my mind. I bought the scar 17s in 6.5 creedmoor, and now I have good hopes on performance.
Great shooting! I really enjoy the view through the scope and being able to see your wind holds. I think it helps me do the same.
I have a 22in 6.5cm I take out to 1200yds often. Awesome to see the shorter barrels do well also
Very impressed. Excellent
A friend of mine was trying to zero with the same Winchester ammo. The projectiles they use are pretty awesome. But upon looking at the ammo, you could physically see that the ogives were sat at different depths. The groups were well over an inch and a half. i gave him four factory Hornady140gr ELDMs and they went into the size of a nickle. Winchester is coming closer to making good ammo (using a good projectile) but they still have some work to do. Nice to see the pristene getting some love as well as finally seeing an outlier barrel. Thank you sir.
Great video brother 👍🏼 you gave me some awesome ideas for the future 👍🏼
I actually had a 16 inch 6.5 creedmoor Howa barreled action from Brownells. The velocities I saw weren’t as low as I thought they’d be. With handloads I could get a 140gr up to about 2550-2600. I ended up taking the barrel off and using the action for something else but I’ve thought about building another shorty Creedmoor.
Love ALL your videos, but this one specifically was really good info for me. As i'm wanting to build a couple shorty 6.5 creed rifles. At least one in semi auto and one in a bolt action. Keep up the great videos!!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Awesome! Really cool to hear you found value in watching this one. Lots of fresh content in the works so stay tuned!
Finally someone did a 16 inch 6.5 build which I did too ,but did it in a ar platform was skeptic doing it and will be suppressed too haven’t shot mines yet waiting on my suppressor to get out of jail and shopping for a scope while I wait, great content and information for ammo choices…
Love the 6.5 needs more!
Been waiting for this one!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Hope it was worth the wait!
@englematic
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica always worth the wait. Your results are right in line with my own short barrel 6.5 shenanigans. 6.5 creedmoor is just such an efficient and versatile round, I love it.
The Ally was a solid performer at distance with some challenging conditions but that barrel was part of the success. Oh, yeah! Its an amazing set up.
Keep up the good work
Don’t know much about long range shooting this was informative. You have a new subscriber
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Long range shooting is awesome but be warned…. It’s addicting and can get expensive haha
I've been looking into building something like this for a while now. Thanks for making this video confirms a lot of theories I've had. Always shocked at how little FPS loss there is with 6.5 creed compared to other calibers.
@LRRPFco52
8 ай бұрын
Most bottleneck centerfire cartridges don't lose much performance when you go with a shorter barrel.
@Ninjaman-do5uk
6 ай бұрын
For reference, my handloaded 143gr ELDX is 2632fps. Factory is a little slower but I don't have hard data on it.
Great shooting. Very interesting results..exceeded my expectations by a good margin.
Awesome video as always. I love my shorty 6.5. I use the 130 Bergers for a little more velocity, and a little closer BC to my 6mm
@LRRPFco52
8 ай бұрын
I love 130gr Berger from .260 Rem, 6.5x47L, 6.5CM, and 6.5 PRC. 130s are where it's at for me. Minimal sight picture disturbance compared to 140gr and higher. 130gr RDF has the shiznit BC.
Awesome shooting and very nice video 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Great job on the audio for this video! Sound quality was good even though that wind was kickin!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Shout out to the $25 Amazon microphone haha
@fattigla
8 ай бұрын
Wow, well it wasworth every penny!
This is a sweet set up.
I always enjoy your video presentations. I'd like to see the 6.5 Creedmoor without the silencer setup. We'll see ya on the next!
@KevinMcGrath-777
4 ай бұрын
why ???
Dude this channel is awesome! Great shootin brotha
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you'll stay tuned.
Great info and video. Fantastic shooting too 🎯 Your channel is awesome and deserves success.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies!
@greatdane3343
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I'd love to see you do some work with a 6 ARC bolt rifle, as that is my next project in a Howa Mini.
A video comparing your shots on tripod vs a bipod and their different uses would be awesome! Love the videos
Great video man. I used a 21" .308 SAKO 75 with a BR Tuote reflex suppressor for several sniper instructor courses in Finland. Overall length of the rifle in a McMillan A4 was the same as yours. I had to unscrew the can to install or remove the TRG bipod. They had cut a TRG bipod receptacle into the front of the A4, which was cool. The overall rifle was actually really lightweight since it was a true featherweight barrel, but it maintain POI all day, day-after-day in defiance of all that I thought I knew.
Another great video. I have a 16 ar10 6.5 cr and it's a killer for hunting pigs and deer. I haven't tested it uber long range yet
Excellent video as always man.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@Wakener00
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You inspired me to step up my long range bolt game, so definitely going to keep my eye on your upcoming content o7
My Bergara B14 16" (cut, threaded, and suppressed) with 143gr ELD-X over 41.3 grains of H4350 is 2632fps. Love it and taken many whitetail and varmints out to 250yards. Steel at 800 or 1000 yards is boring easy. Just built another in lightweight chassis with proof barrel but haven't developed a load or chrono'd it at all.
Love the video, great to see actual testing and performance and not some KZreadr seeing how many toilets will stop 50 bmg .
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Haha glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I think I've found a unique niche in the youtube space and that's around testing the things that are normally just talked about. Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you'll stay tuned and share with your buddies when possible.
Very nice shooting I learned a lot thanks so much
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Really cool to hear you found value in watching! Thanks for taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Fantastic video! Did everything I thought it would. I am in the process of doing something similar, but with a 10-14" barrel, intended to max out at 530 yards, the length of my personal range. No SBR restrictions here in Canada, as long as I use a new barrel blank and don't have a folding or collapsable stock that takes my overall firearm length to less than 26".
Would absolutely love to see you on Texas Plinking 1 MOA challenge. Great content as always, continue to do great work.
@frankopanklaric
8 ай бұрын
He is on the very first episode.
@rkwjunior2298
8 ай бұрын
@@frankopanklaricHe is?
@frankopanklaric
8 ай бұрын
@@rkwjunior2298 Yes! He did pretty good. First episode.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
As another commenter mentioned I am shooter #1 on episode one! That said though I’m thinking I’ll go back for another round on the new points system here in a couple of months. Will likely run a 14.5” 6.5cm gas gun this time around 😳
@GideonMagoh
6 ай бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica14.5 AR10 Creedmoor?! Never heard of that!
That string of A-tip impacts.....well done brother.
Thanks man !! New subscriber, but have been watching you for a while !! You answered some questions for me .... I wanted to cut down my 22" 6.5 creed to 19.5, so with EC tuner brake still sit at 22" over all length !!
Excellent!
Hey man I’m late to the party but on one of your recent videos you asked for opinions on whether people liked you jumping right into some action vs talking for a while. I for one very much enjoy the way you start by sort of “framing the action” and establishing the intentions of the video by talking to us for a while before getting on the rifle. That’s my vote! Thanks for everything
Funny you remind me of a Bob Ross for shooting. Great presentation. You come across very well. I am very impressed. A joy to watch look forward to more content especially in the shorter barrel 16 an 18 inch bolt actions for hunting and precision.
Hey man this was great to see. You should repeat the 6mm arc with a 6.5 creed
I have an 18" Tikka CTR in 6.5CM. Great video :)
Great video! I built a very similar whitetail rig this year. Bighorn Orgin action, 16” Excalibur carbon fiber barrel, AG Composites stock, Leupold VX-6 3-18 and a Q Half Nelson can. It’s a light weight, quiet tack-driver. I shoot 143 Gr ELD-X right at 2500 FPS
I love the camera angle changes
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully multiple camera angles make the viewing experience more enjoyable. I feel like multiple angles help keep the viewers attention so glad to hear it’s working!
Great shooting man. Speaks volumes to the capability of the shortie 6.5s
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Pretty cool what short barrels are capable of when paired with nice ammunition. Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you'll stick around to check it out!
@clintivy623
8 ай бұрын
@@MountainsMulletsMerica sure will! Thank you!
Found your channel thanks to TPH talking you up. Really enjoyed this , and have subscribed. Ken
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Awesome, really appreciate you taking the time to come see what I'm about! If you're into long range shooting I think you'll enjoy my content!
I preferred my 18” 6.5CM barrel to my 16” because the longer gas system helped a lot with such a high pressure gassy round. I can get 2600 fps with a 140 eldm out of my 16” using staball 6.5. The ballistics are silly good for such a short barrel
Incredible 👍🎖️
I love your channel and am really glad that I subscribed to it. This was an interesting one. I have four 6.5 CM guns, two bolt guns and two LR308 platform guns. One of my LR308 guns is a 16” with a Faxon barrel. I built it with the idea that it [c]ould be a do ‘most’ rifle. I learned a lot from building and shooting that gun and I won’t build another one. I really like your gun, but for a precision rifle I don’t see any advantage to it. I think I will be sticking with my 24” gun. Thank for making the video I learned a lot.
Best content on KZread
@MountainsMulletsMerica
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate the compliment and support! Help me out and share with your buddies when you get a chance.
Thank you for this video, I have been looking into a short 6.5 creedmoor and this convinced me. I would recommend a Burn Proof Gears suppressor cover. That would help with the mirage you're seeing
Standing out in a Dry wheat field shooting long Range with a Bullet too small, and a Barrel too short.........Liked & Subscribed... and your Microphone worked very well in the wind 😃
Very good presentation with some interesting results. The only additional thing I would have liked to have seen is the same shooting without the suppressor to see what the difference would be, if there is a difference at all.
Lovin it!
I've been looking for a set up like that in 6.5 prc with a 24 inch barrel. Great job!
@LRRPFco52
8 ай бұрын
6.5 PRC with a 22" pipe is plenty. Great cartridge with shockingly-low recoil for what it does.
I really enjoy your channel. I want a 16 inch 6.5 now.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
4 ай бұрын
Love to hear you’re enjoying the content! A shorter barrel 6.5 is such an epic rig…. Handy and maneuverable while still being impressively capable at distance. This setup made me a believer!
Great video. Short barrel hunting rigs are the only way to go, even my PRS switch lugs are 20-22” barrels. I shoot the 110g Atip in my custom 6 CM 3050 fps. It flies good. I’ve connected at 1800. Single digit SD tuned load with 12-15 extreme spread. It also performs very well on game. Penetrates 6-8”, then explodes. No exit.
I’m impressed! I’ve been torn between a 16” .308 or a 16” 6.5, I run suppressed and like the options for 308 but this might have swayed in my favor!
Great shooting once again! Yes, Titanium cans get hotter faster. And they can be "sparky" under low light.