Short Explanation Why King is Better than Armor King!

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An impromptu explanation as to why I think that King is still better than Armor King with a few examples. The numbers don't lie. Let me know what you think!
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  • @deliciouspotato2623
    @deliciouspotato26233 жыл бұрын

    The intro is back!!! I'm satisfied now

  • @justaotter2085

    @justaotter2085

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly it feels like if king was in irl He would have a intro like this

  • @rabusmar
    @rabusmar3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure I agree with this. Sure, king has better comeback potential, but that just means you have to play differently with AK and try to not rely on rage too much. I'm not saying that AK is better, but tbh just comparing them on comeback potential doesn't really give me the full picture. Btw, personally, it would look something like this: STANDING PUNISHMENT: King A - AK A. Practically tied. King has better 12f and 15f punish, AK has 13f long-range mid wallsplat punish and dark upper. CROUCH PUNISHMENT: King A - AK F. King is better no contest, he would be S if only he had a 13f punish, AK has only ws4 below 15f (it's chunky tho) and his hopkick has bad range so it's not fully reliable. WHIFF PUNISHMENT: King B - AK A+. This one's for AK. Shoulder has amazing range and is mid, and dark upper does a lot of damage. King doesn't have a fast long-range laucher, tho b3:1+2 is quite chunky and b1,2 has a lot of range (but bad hitbox). MOVEMENT & EVASIVENESS: King D - AK B. This one's for AK again, his hitbox is smaller, his sidestep is much better and he has a nice panic move in b1+4 that some characters can't punish. King is huge, has no panic moves and he even gets hit by some big boy combos. KEEP OUT: King C - AK B. King has better range on b1, but AK has dark upper. APPROACH: King A - AK A. I'm on the fence on this one. King has simpler options (ff1, ffn1+2 and ffn2 can cover almost everything) but none of them area really oppressive, whereas AK has a lot of options but a lot more risky (cd1, ff3 are high, ff4, ff2, ffn2 weak to ss, cd4 has no range). AK has an usable wavedash tho so that's another point to consider. POKING: King B - AK B. Another difficult one. King has better mids and his fast mids (df1, df2 and df3) have good tracking. AK has better lows so he doesn't have to rely too much on throws. THROWS: King S+ - AK A+. Obviously King has the best throw game in the game, and his better mids make connecting them easier. AK could be said to be second so he's not too shabby, but from my experience he's ducked more often. OKIZEME: King S - AK B. Most of king's knockdowns and throws give amazing oki, and his floor grabs and rage drive do a LOT of damage if the enemy stays on the ground. AK doesn't really have a mixup for floor grabs (except at the wall and on a couple of positions), and only a couple of knockdowns give favorable oki. RAGE: King S - AK D. King's rage drive is one of the best of the game. AK's rage drive is super cool tho. OVERALL: King A+ - AK A.

  • @lilmajin

    @lilmajin

    3 жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT response @rabusmar! I Pretty much agree with most of your points. As far as the crouch punishment section, don't forget that both can use crouch canceling to punish lows like Paul's qcf+3, both Kings' f,f,n,2, etc. AK can cc f+1+4 for -14 lows for the wall splat. I would boost AK's rating to a C and not an F lol because some characters have it worse than him. Also, the movement and evasiveness should be a little higher for King. Backwards JGS is VERY good for King and he has more moves with crushing properties than AK. Now AK's b+1+4 is an amazing evasive tool, but it isn't safe against everyone and it gets blown up by a lot of moves. King's backdash covers more ground than AK's but not his SS. Both have the same hurtboxes when it comes to combos also. Poking? King has d/f+2 and a very hard to step d/f+1 with an extension that's only -10. I give the nod to King because 2 CH d/f+2's is the round against the majority of the cast. AK has nothing even close to that.

  • @Nawrly17

    @Nawrly17

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who doesn't play king/AK, AK always gives me trouble for the same reason that Mishimas do: MOVEMENT! The wavedash is no joke! I haven't played a king online in forever, but them AK players always give me work lol

  • @deniantonius4208

    @deniantonius4208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nawrly17 imagine the dev giving AK a hell sweep, he'll become a solid top tier character

  • @sO_RoNerY

    @sO_RoNerY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Word. But I don’t care who's better out of the two. Doesn't mean nothing but opinions in the end. If you're a King fanboy, you are, in no doubt, going to say King is better than AK.

  • @sO_RoNerY

    @sO_RoNerY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Armor King uses Pro Wrestling. Unlike King, his fighting style is more oriented towards the "shoot" style, which has more of an emphasis on strikes as opposed to holds." Get that out there. So yes, both use pro wrestling, but are a tad different and use different move. We all know original Tekken characters will get a bit of special treatment. That means giving them a few more high damaging moves.

  • @Genesis-hs2xv
    @Genesis-hs2xv3 жыл бұрын

    The funniest thing is that yesterday I just tried to find a video of you talking about king over armor king. Now you did a video

  • @iUMiE
    @iUMiE3 жыл бұрын

    Please keep videos like this one coming, I’ll watch them daily.

  • @Yzaias15
    @Yzaias153 жыл бұрын

    I've heard of glytch before but I'm surprised they didn't let you have your own flavor, unless you couldn't think of a name/flavor or didnt want one 😁

  • @teejushthegargoyil139
    @teejushthegargoyil1393 жыл бұрын

    Imm a new comer who has decided to start with king I don’t fully understand your vids yet but despite that you are still really entertaining

  • @Vyllain
    @Vyllain3 жыл бұрын

    I hope this puts an end to the ever persisting question during streams, " who is better majin king or armor king " . Nice video as always mate thank you.

  • @yashking8594
    @yashking85943 жыл бұрын

    King : master of basics always has options balanced aggression and defense better for calm and collected players. Armor king : Aggressive moves ,good pressure , good damage up front, good for aggressive players .

  • @crazy911wman

    @crazy911wman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Differently king can put more pressure. Ak has to stay calm and wait for whiffs

  • @yashking8594

    @yashking8594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crazy911wman king isnt as good as Armor king on pressure . I'm talking about Armor king and what his design perks are, any player can be calm with any of the characters and wait for whiffs.

  • @notgonnapay

    @notgonnapay

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yashking8594 King’s got df+1, 2 with the delay on 2 and his jab strings for pressuring. Pretty much any kind of pressure tool he has can just be waited out by a patient player. I think he’s best with hard reads, approach tools and maybe now whiff punishment with his new f+2, 1 and leg drop after b+3.

  • @genra17
    @genra173 жыл бұрын

    So, this iteration of AK is launch heavy with horrible frames and little options. High risk, low reward.

  • @mmmk6322

    @mmmk6322

    3 жыл бұрын

    But AK has better style points.

  • @lilmajin

    @lilmajin

    3 жыл бұрын

    His frames on a lot of his knockdowns and his lack of a high utility rage drive make him have to work harder than King in a lot of aspects. He has excellent keep away and approach to compensate...but they come at a risk as well.

  • @Bloonas

    @Bloonas

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lilmajin Since you mention the push from King, AK b1+2 guarantee CD2 on CH, timing is tight tho

  • @DJCocoaButter

    @DJCocoaButter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Bloonas yeah that's been a thing. CH b1+2 is +14 on hit. If you can do a perfect dark upper which is i14 you will get a launch. I practiced it a lot to the point I do it to my brother when we play just to show off my execution. The best way to practice is to go into practice and set the bots second action to guard all. Having the frame indicators will help with timing. Thing is, b1+2 is like i18 and inferior to King's chest bump and shove so it's seldom ever used.

  • @anothermouth7077

    @anothermouth7077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mmmk6322 😄 AK definitely gets the swag points. I wish they improve on his throw game, even Nina has more throw mixups than AK.

  • @manmaw_prod
    @manmaw_prod3 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious. what would you like to see from armor king if he shows up in tekken eight? I mostly play him on the side now cause I enjoy being lei for his mix-ups. what would you say they change about armor king to keep him different from king while also being just as fun/good.

  • @liquidjackson7172

    @liquidjackson7172

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’d like to see more of an emphasis on Japanese strong style wrestling. It would truly have him stand out a lot more compared to his brothers protege.

  • @casongriffin6984
    @casongriffin69843 жыл бұрын

    Simple, it's whoever you use champ. Much love from Tennessee Neighbor!

  • @zwerble_
    @zwerble_3 жыл бұрын

    Idk man i cant seem to pick AK back up after Tag 2

  • @Affiliate067
    @Affiliate0673 жыл бұрын

    This just took the wind out my sails. Thanks Majin! 😆

  • @unknownuser0323
    @unknownuser03233 жыл бұрын

    Love the intro g

  • @MaverickX578
    @MaverickX578 Жыл бұрын

    Bro I love the fighting stances of king and armor king, really shows the difference in their wrestling styles, King(Lucha Libre) and Armor King(Shoot Style)

  • @KroVey
    @KroVey3 жыл бұрын

    Is Lil Majin not gonna compete in EVO?

  • @clevelandgeorge8226
    @clevelandgeorge82263 жыл бұрын

    Where Armor king lacks he gains in looking cool 😎😢

  • @justaotter2085

    @justaotter2085

    3 жыл бұрын

    King has equal if not better drip too ge robbed ak in every aspect

  • @mmmk6322

    @mmmk6322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justaotter2085 not even close. AK doesn't look like an anime character with a two minute chainthrow. AK throws don't look like it's fake wrestling. AK ki charges you when he lands a ch launcher. AK dark upper is high skill ceiling. AK rage drive is dirty and indicative of his Heel persona. King can't touch this.

  • @TheJbrown60

    @TheJbrown60

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mmmk6322 gn

  • @justaotter2085

    @justaotter2085

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mmmk6322 well it is his character right Ak is dangerous gets shit done and not to be messed with, brutal his theme in tk 2 was scary King is more of flashy character he wrestles for pure passion and not for personal reasons (except tekken 4 )

  • @tristanchriesmon1056
    @tristanchriesmon10563 жыл бұрын

    Sry it's been a min my brotha work has been kickn my ass lately but I'm here tho and yes I have ta agree king is better even tho my big brother loved armor king

  • @sasori670
    @sasori6703 жыл бұрын

    Intro is so hype

  • @MJfp6lx
    @MJfp6lx3 жыл бұрын

    Just check out the recent JDCR vs Puma for a live demonstration

  • @billahgareeb7359
    @billahgareeb73593 жыл бұрын

    Love you bro lil 👏👏😁

  • @jumpfold
    @jumpfold3 жыл бұрын

    If I had footage like that intro bro I'd be using it a lot lol it's cool man mad cool.

  • @dom_toretto_196toretto7
    @dom_toretto_196toretto73 жыл бұрын

    Yo im be using combos like that if yu ever on PS4 servers bro I'd love to get few matches with yu bro

  • @dylanh.3793
    @dylanh.37933 жыл бұрын

    JDCR just won a huge online invitational with AK and said he believes AK is very strong (I would assume stronger than king) so I’m interested to hear your thoughts on the other side of the coin.

  • @jaaydee93
    @jaaydee933 жыл бұрын

    Idk, i've been more successful with ak, and he's more fun. I even bettered my exexution and wavedash through him. If I were consistent with king's giant swing, i might have used him more ( piledriver always comes out for me)

  • @lloydvallentine2

    @lloydvallentine2

    2 жыл бұрын

    same here and Ive been playing king since teken 3. Gamepads are just unrealiable for giant swings

  • @jaaydee93

    @jaaydee93

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lloydvallentine2 funny thing is i'm consistent with armor king's giant swing, but king's i always mess up, because half of giant swing input is that tombstone, plus i'm on a cheap gamepad

  • @lloydvallentine2

    @lloydvallentine2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaaydee93 Yea me too, there is a secret input like do a forward and then the tombstone input with a square but its not 100% accurate.. Like each time i play I have to practice it for a minute to get the timing right and even then I regress to the conventional method after I miss a couple of times..

  • @jaaydee93

    @jaaydee93

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lloydvallentine2 yeah, i accidentally did that once, tried to dash and do a tombstone with armor king and giant swing came out, however i did not try that out with king

  • @killthemall55
    @killthemall553 жыл бұрын

    Video quality be poppin 👀

  • @londonmaths1557
    @londonmaths15573 жыл бұрын

    ive never seen king do a rock bottom before, had no idea he could do that

  • @huhoyman
    @huhoyman3 жыл бұрын

    Intro has returned

  • @thefallenkami
    @thefallenkami2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know cd1 launched😐. I've struggled for long trying to pick him up

  • @shaqny1
    @shaqny13 жыл бұрын

    I’d pay for a button by button, beginner to Expert guide on how to use King, by Lil majin

  • @suzukitaiga1140
    @suzukitaiga11403 жыл бұрын

    Because Lil Majin is playing him that's the only reason we need 🤷🏾 But in all seriousness I like King's drip more

  • @yadrielrodriguez5931
    @yadrielrodriguez59313 жыл бұрын

    You play what Play4 ?

  • @yadrielrodriguez5931

    @yadrielrodriguez5931

    3 жыл бұрын

    O PC ?

  • @Anthony-nr7lw
    @Anthony-nr7lw3 жыл бұрын

    Yoo Lil Majin why we don’t see u in tournaments? :(

  • @lilmajin

    @lilmajin

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't care to compete in online tournaments (for now) and I'm waiting on the pandemic to clear before I travel offline.

  • @Anthony-nr7lw

    @Anthony-nr7lw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lilmajin can’t wait to see you back on the stage bro

  • @jeetkundough6224
    @jeetkundough62243 жыл бұрын

    The King, is the King. 💪🦁👍

  • @bluelion7342
    @bluelion73423 жыл бұрын

    Now do a video as to why armor king is better than king

  • @aeronafrica4868
    @aeronafrica48683 жыл бұрын

    Finally King is back

  • @since2133
    @since21333 жыл бұрын

    They should not be compared because they have completely different playstyles and moves. Just like how Anna and Nina are not same. I think King is obviously stronger than AK because I struggle more with King.

  • @courtlandwilliams9533
    @courtlandwilliams95333 жыл бұрын

    But I still love this AK too

  • @tonyelectionfraud669
    @tonyelectionfraud66928 күн бұрын

    I miss this intro

  • @Hammadmma
    @Hammadmma3 жыл бұрын

    I am your fan

  • @Hammadmma

    @Hammadmma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @trfoogz493
    @trfoogz4933 жыл бұрын

    And the biggest compare of all these moves is the rage drive every one knows that

  • @amoblack9845
    @amoblack98453 жыл бұрын

    I missed the intro.

  • @elijahplaysgw2612
    @elijahplaysgw26123 жыл бұрын

    I mean it is true

  • @jwoodsjr123sgameroom5
    @jwoodsjr123sgameroom53 жыл бұрын

    Now, sorry to ask such a noob question, but striking wise, Armor King is better, right? And this is coming from someone who mains Miguel, and have a friends who play both Armor King, and some who play King.

  • @fatbum

    @fatbum

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean striking wise?

  • @jwoodsjr123sgameroom5

    @jwoodsjr123sgameroom5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fatbum nevermind. I should probably watch the full video first lol

  • @jwoodsjr123sgameroom5

    @jwoodsjr123sgameroom5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fatbum but just to answer your question of what I mean, without grapples, who would be better?

  • @Ryu-qk1kx

    @Ryu-qk1kx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jwoodsjr123sgameroom5 imo king is still way better because AK's frames are just so abysmal.

  • @fatbum

    @fatbum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jwoodsjr123sgameroom5 i think king is still better but AK is just easier to play since most of his combos are pretty easy to pull off Also, he has great wall carry

  • @sprite9897
    @sprite98973 жыл бұрын

    I'mma just say King is better than Armor because of lower execution requirements. For the life of me I can't even do the Crouch dash 2 into Crouch dash 1.

  • @TokenaiNamae

    @TokenaiNamae

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's completely the opposite for me. King's wave dash is definitely not a "lower execution requirement", that's muscle memory that only a few have mastered on keyboard, pad, and stick respectively. Also, I'll hand it to King players that can land a ff1 combo into shining wizard because I can't do that consistently in comparison to cd2 to cd1, or even the JDCR special.

  • @orugnet

    @orugnet

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TokenaiNamae but king doesnt need to wavedash

  • @lelandvaughn6109
    @lelandvaughn61092 жыл бұрын

    @lilmajin tell them fix AK and close the gap a little bit at least

  • @kashofficialtv5486
    @kashofficialtv54862 жыл бұрын

    I Love The Intro Majin. But Armored King is better than king 💯 Well at least to me. I played Armored King & King both yesterday and always have a harder time playing AK. I use Noctis & Leroy on XBox

  • @courtlandwilliams9533
    @courtlandwilliams95333 жыл бұрын

    The best ak train king lol he has all the best moves

  • @jamaljenkings9284
    @jamaljenkings92843 жыл бұрын

    AK is better for whiff punish

  • @Boreganic
    @Boreganic3 жыл бұрын

    You still competing? I’m new here 👋🏻

  • @angeltrujillo1868

    @angeltrujillo1868

    3 жыл бұрын

    He doesn’t want to compete until the pandemic finally settles down, or stop completely.

  • @SimbaUchihaa
    @SimbaUchihaa3 жыл бұрын

    I want to see more Majin vs Marduk players because Marduk does not respect the frames 😂😂😂😂

  • @sonyavine
    @sonyavine3 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't really matter they both get swept all over the canvas

  • @dennisb.2412
    @dennisb.24123 жыл бұрын

    I played Tekken 1 to 3 and King is better than Armor King since Tekken 3.. Maybe 2 🤔

  • @ryontibbs629
    @ryontibbs6293 жыл бұрын

    Ak has better lows that why I think king is not better by much.

  • @andrevodisek9092
    @andrevodisek90923 жыл бұрын

    The peoples Champ .....

  • @misharial-aqeel4953
    @misharial-aqeel49533 жыл бұрын

    There are match-ups where AK is better and others where king is better.

  • @cocopuf97
    @cocopuf973 жыл бұрын

    You're pretty biased tbh. You spent twice as long talking about king as you did armor King. Didn't mention AKs strong counterhit moves either.

  • @cocopuf97

    @cocopuf97

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or his wall combos and Oki at the wall

  • @Ryu-qk1kx
    @Ryu-qk1kx3 жыл бұрын

    I know this is his opinion but I completely agree lmao

  • @ViperDivinity

    @ViperDivinity

    3 жыл бұрын

    well he is the best known king player in the world so his opinion should be valid

  • @goku-se8xn
    @goku-se8xn2 жыл бұрын

    Tekken should pay you

  • @COLBYtheDRAGON
    @COLBYtheDRAGON3 жыл бұрын

    BRO IS KING HISPANIC AND ARMOR KING BLACK?

  • @DJCocoaButter

    @DJCocoaButter

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're supposed to be Mexican but a reveal of King I's face from Namco Museum makes him looks black. He had a big high top fade afro under his mask. I'm not sure what King II is but AK I & II can be both be Afro Mexicans (yes those exist). They are WAY too dark to just be Mexican or Indigenous. Especially Tag 2 Armor King.

  • @icecreamcupcake437

    @icecreamcupcake437

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DJCocoaButter do you have any sources so i can see what he looked liked. Only time ive seen kings face was in t 1

  • @DJCocoaButter

    @DJCocoaButter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@icecreamcupcake437 www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/6r38x2/remember_that_one_part_in_the_tekken_1_console/?

  • @COLBYtheDRAGON

    @COLBYtheDRAGON

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DJCocoaButter YES I KNOW OF THE BLACKS OF OTHER NATIONALITIES LOL I JUST REMEMBERED THE REGULAR KING LOOKING LIKE A BLACK DUDE THEN HE WAS LIGHTENED UP I HAVE NO QUESTION REALLY ABOUT ARMOR KING BEING BLACK LMAO

  • @COLBYtheDRAGON

    @COLBYtheDRAGON

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DJCocoaButter KINDA WHAT THEY DID WITH KRATOS’s FACIAL FEATURES…REAL AFRO CENTRIC THEN THEY CHANGED HIM WITH THE LATEST GAME LOL SEVERAL BLACK VOICE ACTORS BLACK BODY MODEL (guy actually died trying to save his daughter if I remember correctly) AND DAVID JAFFE (he has a KZread channel) THE CREATOR SAID HIS DREAM ROLE ACTOR FOR KRATOS WAS “DJIMON HOUNSOU” GOOGLE WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE AND THIS IS THE GUY WHO CREATED KRATOS SAYING THIS LOL

  • @sadpug9398
    @sadpug93983 жыл бұрын

    Well, I already knew that King is the cheapest character who can be played by person with negative IQ, but I didn't realise how actually busted he is

  • @justinjohnston8923

    @justinjohnston8923

    3 жыл бұрын

    noctis player energy coming from this comment

  • @sadpug9398

    @sadpug9398

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justinjohnston8923 haha, wrong. I'm Steve main with DJin, Julia and Geese as secondary

  • @awsimo826

    @awsimo826

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like someone loses to king a lot

  • @NeedMoreJuice.
    @NeedMoreJuice.3 жыл бұрын

    Armor King is better than King in TTT2 King is better than Armor King in T7

  • @jeighderrek
    @jeighderrek3 жыл бұрын

    short explanation in 13 mins

  • @jeffreyconcepcion45
    @jeffreyconcepcion453 жыл бұрын

    First

  • @gokurose8651
    @gokurose86513 жыл бұрын

    Bruh everyone knows already you've told us about a thousand times

  • @_NEW3RA_
    @_NEW3RA_3 жыл бұрын

    Messaged you on Instagram. Read it 😂😂😂

  • @leandrohonorio4168

    @leandrohonorio4168

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is her Insta ?

  • @_NEW3RA_

    @_NEW3RA_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leandrohonorio4168 her????

  • @leandrohonorio4168

    @leandrohonorio4168

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_NEW3RA_ his*

  • @_NEW3RA_

    @_NEW3RA_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leandrohonorio4168 thelilmajin

  • @leandrohonorio4168

    @leandrohonorio4168

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_NEW3RA_ thx 😉

  • @zxiorlez
    @zxiorlez3 жыл бұрын

    It’s cause he darker all the dark characters always something wrong people just don’t speak on what they be discussing in office

  • @jcdad2816
    @jcdad28163 жыл бұрын

    Finally some insights by the pioneer himself!

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