I've been an electrician for thirty years and just getting into machining as a hobby. I thought electricity was complicated but this machining stuff is much more complicated. Brain overload.

@pauldolan1493

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Thomas Me too with being an electrician. Up until watching these videos, I thought I was pretty capable of tackling projects with a great cross section of life/work history The depth of the rabbit hole machining is overwhelming. I’d buy a new bit.

@mikefasan325

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Thomas cheers! If you need help I’m here

@adamturner8422

4 жыл бұрын

Opposite way for me. 11 years as a manual/CNC machinist and now an electrical technician and tbh while at work I feel like I'm just winging it

I just like to listen to you talk, Tony. I wish my shop teacher spoke and used humor like you do while explaining. I’d listen more in class. I’ll be a junior in high school this coming school year.

@pigtailsboy

3 жыл бұрын

Introduce your shop teacher to the various KZread production houses dealing in shop work then. If they can't adopt some of the techniques in class they can at least pass along these contacts as guides for their students.

I have worked for large companies and they used to collect all worn or damaged cutting tools and send them out for re-sharpening! You are NOT a cheap skate. Enjoy your videos much more than a lot of other channels. Cheers.

@samrodian919

4 жыл бұрын

The Lamb, No he's a tightwad lol

@lifuranph.d.6607

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but then there’s no nominal size end mills after a total regrind. e.g. 1/4'' = . 2486'', 3/8'' = .3734'', etc.

@mirek4357

2 жыл бұрын

@@lifuranph.d.6607 They can be regrinded to specified diameter tho, I worked on Walter cnc grinders and most of the time the customers didnt care about the end dimensions so we usually took 0.2mm or 0.3mm from the diameter and from the face we took depending on damage of the mills So for regrinding I would rather send it to some company since it was really cheap to regrind couple of mills

thank you so much for mentioning that grinding carbide can be toxic. didn't know at all

This was both educational and entertaining. I have seen these fixtures many times but had no idea how they work. Thanks!

"on the surface grinder" hahahahahahaha I loved this. All of this. Great job!

LOL at the pencil!

@bailey2829

8 жыл бұрын

+John Creasey hahahah

@agwhitaker

7 жыл бұрын

Now if you were to take a 4" length of .350" diameter aluminum or Delrin and poke an 'N' drill in one end about .350" deep you could then press that pencil in and get LOTS more life out of it. Turn and dress the other end to a shallow dome for added flashiness.

@trefforttreffort5650

7 жыл бұрын

John Creasey zen

@svensk69

5 жыл бұрын

That's one way to do it. Or, if you are of the additive manufacturing persuasion, you can 3d-print a (hideously overengineered) pencil stump holder... :D www.dropbox.com/s/pxo2weew38wosrc/2018-10-05%2016.53.39.jpg?dl=0 +This Old Tony

@user-zq6pj5jo8j

5 жыл бұрын

It's not the size of the pencil, It's how you use it..lol

I know this is an old video, but I'm trying to catch up on all the "old" subjects as I work my way through your library. And this one brought up a lot of memories of my days as an apprentice tool and due maker. Early in my training I spent a year just sharpening cutters. I learned to sharpen cutters of every shape and size, and we had all the equipment needed to sharpen them properly! Back then (mid 1980's) the injection mold industry in Grand Rapids, Michigan was just then getting into inserted fly cutters (carbide and ceramic) and things of that type, but all that new stuff was extremely expensive, so almost everything was still cut using fluted HHS and carbide cutters, which needed to be regularly sharpened. Your video bright back A LOT of memories of that for me (...and I'd just gotten over my PTSD, too)!!!

Ahh I bought the fixture now I need to buy the surface grinder. Thanks for clearing that up for me Tony.

Hi ! your videos are awesome Tony. I'm a machinist myself but i did that for only about a year. I'm a small engine technician for about 10 years now and i kind of miss using a late and a milling machine. I remember a lot because of your videos. You are a very talented machinist ! keep doing this. you rock and you are so funny ! best combo.

I have been going back through your older videos and I have to say that I like the theory, or tips and tricks as you call it. I know that there are many good channels out there, but it is good to hear different peoples views and experiences. Thanks for the videos.

@ThisOldTony

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks RJ.. I had similar rationale.

As always. VERY AWESOME! Thank you for taking us along Tony..

*ON THE SURFACE GRINDER*

@Gamerock82

4 жыл бұрын

Toying with our emotions for that Surface Grinder Part Four debacle... My OCD is barely coping as it is.

Really love your videos, Thanks for taking the time to post them,

@ThisOldTony

7 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, thanks for watching Mike!

@doped1able

6 жыл бұрын

WhitwellMike B o

Great video - interesting topic - funny presentation! Keep 'em coming! ;)

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Erling Weiseth Thanks!

I love your videos, I can relate to your information and enjoy the way you present it. I know a little more about sharpening end-mills and someday I may get a surface grinder. Thank you for what you do!

Just heard about your channel while watching EagleCoachShop (Dave). I like to leave comments, as you may learn, especially when asked. I love this type of video. I am not a metal worker but a wood worker. I use bits and jigs, power tools, grinders, lathes and am interested in many of the types of things you document on your channel, albeit for wood :) I've only seen a hand full of your video's but am enjoying them tremendously. Thanks for sharing , sincerely .............................

Grinding those shapes is so complicated, I don't have the tools but manually I always struggle with the bits and simple flutes. Thanks for your videos!

Diamond (or CBN) wheels will load up much more quickly if used dry, which they're not intended for. Such wheels should ideally be trued as soon as the motor current indicates the wheel is loading up. If this is done, the wheel will last a lot longer than if you wait until glazing can be seen, because you will only need to give it a lick. After truing, you need to dress the wheel. The resinoid material which bonds the diamond particles needs taking back below the outer profile (the cutting corners) of those particles. This is so they can penetrate the work and deliver a free cutting action. Otherwise the stone will (again) load up much more quickly. Use a dressing stick one grade finer than the wheel's grit size. This will permit the stick's abrasive grains to penetrate into the gaps between the particles on the diamond wheel, and remove the binding material.

@grahamsurrall7315

5 жыл бұрын

Gottenhimfella a

@dannydetonator

5 жыл бұрын

Ok

@professorjim6874

Жыл бұрын

You can use a soft white aluminum oxide stick for cleaning the wheel.

I've spent all day going through the archives. I can say that this is the first video of the modern This Old Tony. This is when he found his style that we've all come to love. Here's to many more years of fantastic content!

That end mill fixture (jig?) is pretty nice - now you have to get another milling machine!!! Happy shopping!

I anxiously await every video you make tony, Great videos, funny jokes, excellent production quality. keep up the great work

I personally love the more "detailed" hacks , jigs, and improvising how-to videos... Your videos are very entertaining , and make me laugh either way! Thank you for that, and all you do. Yours is one of my top three favorite channels. 🖖😎

I do envy your patience. Keep up the good work and thank you for your educational and entertaining vids.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks hazard!

I would just like to take a moment to appreciate the visual gag of the incredibly short pencil at 1:45.

Can you believe i actually felt the roughness of the dimond-edges of these wheels? My index-skin thinned too... Great presentator who knows how to bang the steel

After watching this two times, I've decided not to invest in this jig and instead send my end mills to you for sharpening. Thanks for assuring me that this is not how I want to spend time. But great video.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

ha! That's one of the best and most diplomatic comments I've read in a long time. Thanks for watching Best!

@mikes2381

7 жыл бұрын

Best Services There must be some poor bugger you can just send your end mills through the interwebs to fly around awhile and return to you refreshed and ready to cut through the crap that is their 9-5 job. And that person probably just watched this video and said I do this by hand all day at a bench grinder.

@honey3431

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Stromecki Perfect. ..lol😂

@leerogers6423

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldTony I watched the beginning but had to go out and buy a new end mill. Did I miss something?

@miguelcastaneda7236

4 жыл бұрын

check old popular mechanics mid 1940s how to make your own cutters ..

Always Enjoy your videos very much and learning a lot from it.thank you for sharing keep it up.

Man, another great vid! I hate buying tools sight-unseen, so I hope you make more like this. Especially if they're all going to be this funny! That pencil was the best.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Hirudin THanks!

Thanks, I have that gadget but I have no surface grinder, never tried using it but now, at least, I saw how to use it. You'd make an excellent lecturer. If I had your kind of teachers I would not have slept in classes. Bob

Nice presentation. Always interesting to see about tool sharpening, etc.

Great video Tony, thanks for sharing.

Just came across your channel and I can't get enough. I love the comedy mixed into the projects. I've pick up a lot of good info already too.

@ThisOldTony

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that Neil, thanks for watching!

Chamfers are usually added to gear teeth for lead in such as in a transmission when gears are switching. Great video as usual.

Super video! Thank you Tony! 😀💪👍There is also a resource/environmental side to this. Resharpening of tools in general is a good thing. Some tools can even last a lifetime if they are well taken care of. I don't like the idea of throwing away dull quality tools containing rare earth metals just because they're dull. I like seing them sharpened😄

Marvellous stuff all round sir! An absolute joy to watch. I can safely say that I never expected to, as it were, hear myself saying that in reference to engineering videos. A wry sense of humour you have there old bean, blended well with an informative non brain pretzel making narrative.

Hey This old Tony. I love that ur reshaping ur end mills and getting more life out of them. Im a carbide sharpener and one thing i would recommend when ur sharpening carbide is to make sure it stays cool if it gets to hot itll just break. Ive had them break a few times in my face. Just a tip for you. Enjoy your day :)

Tony, I do enjoy the detailed technical video as well. Your projects are great, but your detailed approach to explaining topics works very well. Thanks for the video. R.J.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Abc Defg Glad you liked it. Always hard to know what folks might be interested in seeing.

This rank beginner picks up the tone of the process, amid the flurry of technique, and appreciates the occasional warning. Thanks very much.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Mcnulty My pleasure, thanks for watching Paul.

I enjoy your videos a lot. I’ve been sharpening drill bits for years using my jig, sometimes freehand and a magnifier to see.

Awesome production/discussion/instruction/levity

Great video. You stole my next video Idea LOL. Keep up the good work.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Metal Tips and Tricks (Dale Derry) ha! Sorry Dale .. i suppose it was bound to happen sooner or later. Occupational hazard. :) I wouldn't let my video stop you though; as you saw it took a strange turn. I bet a standard 2 or 4 flute demo would be great. Plus, always good to see things from different perspectives.

@andrewlockwood6102

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldTony Ahh, perspectives. As the fly said walking up the mirror ... "that's a different way of looking at it" ...

@ducewags

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewlockwood6102 Like a pig eatting bacon. Oh that's why people like me... I came for the show, and watched the comment's as I am re-watching Tony's shows. After 1 year, you got a "like".

@andrewlockwood6102

3 жыл бұрын

@@ducewags good on ya mate! (from Australia)

I have a T&C grinder (actually a universal grinder), and this is one of the things I've been anxious to learn about. Thank you for posting this, and for being so enjoyable!

@intjonmiller

8 жыл бұрын

Also, if you had a T&C grinder, but no tooling or fixtures, what kind of fixture would you want to buy, on a hobbyist budget?

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Jon Miller Ouch, you don't usually see T&C Grinder and Hobbyist Budget in the same sentence, that's a tough one. I'd suggest you pick a few things you know you'd like to grind and see which fixture(s) you'd need to cover as many of your needs as possible. Maybe start with a "universal grinding fixture" (check ebay) .. like a DoAll or clone. Maybe a Spin Indexer, too. You could get both of those (import) at a reasonable price and see how far they get you. Have fun!

@intjonmiller

8 жыл бұрын

This Old Tony Yeah, it's an unusual situation. Even more so since I don't have my own mill or lathe (my two brothers each got those), but that's what can happen with inheritance. I've had thoughts of selling it to buy something that will get more use, but it's way too cool of a machine to let it go. (Covel #6 if you're curious.) Thanks again!

Like they often say, Tony, timing is everything. Thanks for an entertaining video even if it was made seven years ago. My god, have I got some binge watching to do. Regards from Canada's banana belt. 🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🕊️🇺🇦🕊️🇺🇲👍

Love the pencil with the cheapskate remark! Not a bad tool overall. Thanks for the video.

I have one of those end mill grinding fixtures. I got it in a box of stuff I bought at a yard sale. I had no idea how to use it, so your video was very helpful. I don't think I'd be bothered sharpening small end mills, but I have some 1/2"+ sizes, that I haven't had the heart to throw away.... cheap bastard! Who knows, if I have success with the big ones, I might actually sharpen some smaller ones! Because I'm cheap too.

I saw this last week. I ordered one from Amazon. I LIKE IT! Got a cup wheel and I'm using it on my H/F machine.

I always appreciate nuts and bolts as I'm trying to learn more about such work

Good information. Thanks for posting. Take care, be safe!

Enjoyed your video, l think that you have convinced me to buy one of these fixtures. I did unsubscribe for a while because you hadn't posted any thing for a long time, it's great to see you back. I like the format and the humour. Cheers

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

it's good to have you back Pete.. thanks for your time!

Really like your videos, keep em coming.

I like the reverse capitalization on AvE

Tony, your videos a so good that i tried to click more than one time on the thumbs up, please dont stop !!

Great concept for a video series. I hope this is not the last. I don't have a surface guider and I always wondered how those fixtures work. I almost want to go out and buy one before I even get a grinder. Keep drinking the prune juice and I'm sure the next subject you need to extrude will be another one I can't wait to watch.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Joel L Thanks Joel, I'll see what I can do.

So, the thing is...I liked this kind of video before I saw you do this. It WAS boring in the other places I've seen this sort of thing. Your sense of humor adds exactly what it needs to be entertaining instead of just informative. I definitely would like to see more of these on your channel. Let's "face" it, their easy to do. Well...for the most part at least. As with all things, sometimes we need to "touch and go" at times. You know, not to make any milling puns or anything.

Love these videos. Thanks This Old Tony.

Enjoyed the format and learned a fair amount about the geometry and techniques. Always appreciate the way you think about things and bring it forward! Nice to start on the most complex of forms...jump in both feet. You must have gotten the Wednesday batch of those wheels. I have a smaller cup that rolls like a gyroscope at the end of its spin cycle. I'm in for anything you do to produce more vids! ~¿@ Thanks Tony! Always fun and a Pleasure! ~PJ

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+pjsalchemy You realize that that sort of feedback will only result in me making more videos, don't you? :)

@pjhalchemy

8 жыл бұрын

+This Old Tony Ahhh, Yup! ~¿@

Thanks for the channel list, a few good ones in there Whoa whoa alright mate i heard you the first time

Love that little pencil.

Hi Tony, how I used to dress diamond wheels was to "wear" them true by grinding a piece of steel, I was sharpening carbide cutting tools in a factory and I would sharpen so many that it would wear a dip in the surface of the wheel so I would take a square piece of steel and grind it until the wheel would wear flat again.

Excellent! I would like to see more of this type of video.

I do mine carbide end mills with hand.. I use grind weel to make the face but all the others "cuts, angles etc" I make them manually. It is easy and very quick. Well, I use this process every day so, it may be easy for me. I am in die-mold businnes and the material I cut is 80% steel and stainless steel. So I can't affort to buy every day 4-5 end mills.

"See if you can feel that" 😆 your sense of humor is perfect. This is your calling man, I hope youtube lines your pockets.

Great video, with the usual funky editing elements I really enjoy :) I was actually wondering how to use one of those endmill sharpening fixtures, and whether they're worth the money, so I really appreciate that you have taken the time to explain how to use it. Thank you!

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

glad you liked it Mitcho.

Not in a million years going to do this, but a lot of stuff generalizes. Well done.

So no more builds until you get another milling stations I take it. I like the way you present the topic and it allows the viewer a little insight into what you will encounter when performing the task on the particular machine your using. Keep up the good work and hopefully you'll get another mill soon Tony.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Riley Thanks and thanks for watching!

I like the dalek you threw in there, nice touch

The pencil gag was hysterical!

When I regrind the front cutting edges I dont bother with secondary clearance and gashing - I just grind them with about 2...5° clearance to the center and to the back - They work very well but of course you cant plunge with them anymore. As I have a surface grinder now I might pick up that fixture too, would save me from use the single lip cutter grinder fot that purpose..

@David_Best

8 жыл бұрын

Say what?

@MaxRay16

7 жыл бұрын

+Best Services what

@tobyw9573

6 жыл бұрын

Can you dress a diamond wheel with a regular diamond stone dresser? It could just wear faster... Maybe.

Tony, i learn English with you :) thank you

@snehmistry8860

6 жыл бұрын

I know he's great, but you might want a better source for English, if you know what I mean

Tony I enjoyed watching your videos keep them going Brother.

@ThisOldTony

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I love the humor!

Useful video! I just snagged an old Hammond tool and cutter grinder for cheep but it needs a collet holder. Your video inspired me to get a Phase II (since I have built in angle adjustment already) and adapt it to fit. The style you have would work too. Next thing I want to try is a Spindex to sharpen flutes (I'm cheap so awaiting a few tool auctions before I give up and use Ebay) If you are gonna do more videos I'd like to see your take on that method.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Ob Fuscated Thanks for watching Ob. I've never tried flute sharpening with the Spindex, but interesting idea. I have a 'UniGrind' I've used once or twice.. dig back through the videos you should find a flute sharpening one. In theory I imagine it'd be the same.. you'd just need to fabricate a "finger"/flute tracer to rotate the endmill while you advanced it.

Hi mate. I found it interesting that, while you did not expect it, the wheel and fixture did quite nice. Rooting for the under dog? I don't know. But a fun fact never the less. Shooting the poop. The name reminds me of a patient I had. This person was so very constipated that when it was finally time to have a poop, this patient had no time to pull down the underpants, and sit down. As a result the whole back wall of the shower/toilet was sprayed from the ceiling to the ground. I had never seen something like it. Now that's what I call shooting the poop.

@BrokenRRT

8 жыл бұрын

As a respiratory therapist I was securing a patients airway during bathing time. I was on the right side of the bed in front of the ventilator and 2 nursed rolled the away from my direction. Suddenly the patient started farting and next thing you know sprayed the entire curtain next to me with 3 massive blast of poo. I just missed the line of fire but it was so explosive it was 5 feet up the curtain and literally moved the curtain. The nurses claim I screamed like a girl as I dove for behind the vent and cart. One of the most memorable code browns I have.

@marceltimmers1290

8 жыл бұрын

Hi mate. Moments in time, that only health professionals can appreciate, When you tell it to a "moggel" they only think it's gross, and often loose their appetite. Stories like this are most often spoken about during lunch time. I love it, and miss it. Thanks.

Nice milling machine, it looks just like the one I have in my garage.

Another fantastic video!

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+LemonPie4Me Thanks Lemon! Glad to have you.

to square a diamond wheel for grinding carbide you need either a Norton diamond stone which they come with the wheel when you buy one from Norton that is or molly (not the drug lol) .. nice video btw

Very nice, helpful video! Thx Tony!

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+SIMI.KING MOTO My pleasure.. thanks for watching.

For those of you trying to read that list of KZread machinist creators at about 0:13 (to see if you are on it??? I'm not.) Google Chrome has a method for stepping through a KZread video frame by frame. You pause the video and use the angle bracket keys "" (actually the comma and period since you don't hold down the Shift key). In this case it will disclose that the list has been repeated several times to make the fast scroll last longer. (This may change the playback speed when you resume normal play, but that can be corrected by clicking on the gear at the lower right of the playback window.) And now ... back to actually watching the video.

@garethbaus5471

5 жыл бұрын

I did not know that.

@bengineer8

5 жыл бұрын

firefox has that too, think it is a general yt thing

This is the only video I could find for the use of that tool. My old surface grinder came with one and could not find info on its use thanks. found this by accident the title was of little help, I was not doing a search for poop!

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Ed Ginsberg ha! sorry about that.

Pretty slick. I don't have a surface grinder, nor do I need one so it's unlikely I'll end up buying one now but that was slick. I always wondered what those old guys that did "tool sharpening" actually used and I didn't really thing of a diamond impregnated grinding wheel. I may never use what I just learned but it was interesting either way. PS, I watched the "shootin the poop" vids out of order.

as always good stuff!

Muito bom! Gosto do teu senso de humor. Parabéns.

I definitely saw a Dalek from Dr. Who in there somewhere

I like the format, Tony, and your own inimitable style still comes through strong. When does the new mill arrive?

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Bob Korves Haven't found one yet!

I've got the 5C version and it works for the occasional need to do an end mill. One thing with diamond wheels on the surface grinder. Normally it is a good idea to indicate the wheel in. Wrap the OD with Scotch Tape and lightly tap the wheel to true it up with an indicator. Do not use the indicator on the diamond. Just don't how I know this. Also High Helix end mills may have less lateral forces but they have much higher end forces trying to pull them out of the collet

16:50 While you were grinding I was thinking about the same thing!

You probably have ground many more end mills since this video was made and maybe figure it out that, that end Mill having sharp points at the end will break off in steel. Typically there is a "land" or small face only maybe .01 to .02 high to remove the sharp corner. Thanks for the great videos!

I got a press punch jammed under a grinding wheel once, it went flying across the room like a bullet. The grinding wheel stayed in one piece, there was a divet in the wheel but I dressed it up and it was fine.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

Ouch!

Does your grinder spin in the opposite direction because it's metric? ;-)

@erg0centric

7 жыл бұрын

eformance made for Australia

@luminousfractal420

5 жыл бұрын

only every few thousandths

@jemijona

4 жыл бұрын

Same as when you flush the toilet in Australia. The water spins the other way.

@user-uk5bx1kz2k

4 жыл бұрын

What I think it's only spindle motor connection issue. Metric grinders, as you call them, also have CW rotations. Maybe it's easier to work with grinder in a tight placement

Most excellent! Keep up keepin' on. Thanks for sharing. (200th comment..must mean something, right?)

Thanks a lot Tony! I was looking at those about ten years ago but it's difficult for an amatuer to purchase something like that and then be disappointed when it doesn't work

the format is a success. bet you can't wait to put that new vice to work...

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+Eric Skinner Just as soon as I get all that ear wax off it.

I once had a job running a CNC lathe at night all by myself. The day guy worked his ass off producing 93 stainless steel parts, taking no breaks nor lunch, sucking up to the boss when he came by (I know this, because he showed my how to run the machine). Best I could do was 84 and since I worked all alone I had no one to glad-hand! What to do? I figured by pushing the feed rate on the single large diameter steel drill used to remove most of the inside metal, I could make parts faster. So I doubled it. It worked, but the drill cutting edges wore out . So I rigged up a drill jig on a nearby surface grinder so I could quickly sharpen that lone drill while the CNC machine was running. Eventually, I increased the feed until I was in the realm of diminishing returns and settled on a happy medium. So for as long as that job ran, both day and night shift ran 93 parts apiece. The day guy pissed in a bottle behind the lathe and brown-bagged it, while I had plenty of time for breaks and could go to the dining area for lunch.

Gashes... oo err matron...lol Good work mate...✌😎

Fantastic videos

I'm sharpening my drills and endmills using a diamond wheel on the mill (sorry that I do not have a surface grinder) and a rotary table with ER25 collet. Most important to get edges that remove the same amount of material is the angle you turn the mill in the rotary table from flute to flute. For your stevenson fuxture, I would place dents with precision on the outer diameter of the collet bearing and a spring loaded ball in a hole of the fixture that indexes into these dents. So the 180 (2 flute) or 120 (3 flute) degree angle will be reached with precision (you don't need 121 degrees at all). Sadly your stevenson fixture is not for drills, otherwise I would build one.

Excellent analysis and execution. You would not have been able to do near as well without that 2mm lead holder

Nicely done.

@ThisOldTony

8 жыл бұрын

+ext700 danke!

And just the tip mind you and only for a minute