Lathe Leveling

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Covering an old classic: Leveling a lathe so it turns concentric parts.
Special guest Keith Fenner!
I've over simplified in few areas -- my intention is to convey / shed light on the general mechanics while still making a watchable video about an otherwise (probably) dry topic.
Dale Derry / Metal Tips & Tricks Leveling a Lathe: • Metal Lathe 101, Tip ...

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  • @KeithFenner
    @KeithFenner7 жыл бұрын

    Great Job! and a great subject, to expand on. Glad I could drop in and help out! LOL ;{)------

  • @foxdmulder

    @foxdmulder

    7 жыл бұрын

    The master has spoken. :)))

  • @jasonjanus5764

    @jasonjanus5764

    7 жыл бұрын

    Keith Fenner

  • @madheadmadDAZ

    @madheadmadDAZ

    6 жыл бұрын

    Please join Tony in another video Keith haha! This is hilarious I watch it all the time. Please make it happen Tony.

  • @evolati12

    @evolati12

    6 жыл бұрын

    Damn how I would have loved to have been a mosquito on the vice when you were watching this video Mr. Fenner!!!!

  • @industrialarts3921

    @industrialarts3921

    6 жыл бұрын

    Now you need to get him back! Do a This Old Tony spoof. ;)

  • @deweys
    @deweys6 жыл бұрын

    So if I twist my lathe I can cut tapers?! I'm sold

  • @ianbuilds7712

    @ianbuilds7712

    3 жыл бұрын

    Npt

  • @StefanGotteswinter
    @StefanGotteswinter7 жыл бұрын

    Haha :D I got mad at my 0,02mm/m level. it changed reading with me changing my position from one foot to another...and that on a 150mm thick concrete basement...easiest solution was to sell the level :D

  • @rubbadubdub7857

    @rubbadubdub7857

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! I've thrown my bathroom scales out, too. Keep telling me I'm gaining weight. Why's it so hard to find accurate scales?

  • @pco1984

    @pco1984

    7 жыл бұрын

    Stefan Gotteswinter I wonder what's going to happen when you, This Old Tony, Keith Fenner and some other guys (like AvE or EEVblog or the likes) will get together and would make a machine... it'll either be glorious or fun to watch :)

  • @andreasmagnussen5574

    @andreasmagnussen5574

    7 жыл бұрын

    Stefan Gotteswinter this reminds me of a friend of mine who refuses to use a digital caliper because its hard to ignore the decimal errors :-)

  • @dcaonoek

    @dcaonoek

    6 жыл бұрын

    Germans have the best senses of humour!

  • @1873Winchester

    @1873Winchester

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trying to level my lathe with a 0.05mm/m level, not much easier. Problem is the lathe is so light I don't think it's heavy enough to sit perfectly flat. I think that is why the manual says to cast bolts into the floor and anchor the lathe onto those, then adjust.

  • @BrokenRRT
    @BrokenRRT7 жыл бұрын

    And to think... This well spoken, witty, brilliant, and entertaining feller (ThisOldTony) use to not talk in his videos! Truth be had Keith Helped me through some rough times. I was stuck in a hospital bed for 170+ days and had an uncertain future. Spent another year in s wheelchair and bed at home . Down and depressed I found Keith's videos while in that situation in the hospital and it kept me entertained while learning something. I'm much better these days but still spend time to time in bed flared up and too ill to get out of bed or leave the house. It's these times I learn all I can by watching these video of yours, Keith's, Abom, S/V Seeker, S/V Delos, La Vagabonde, and few more. I'm very grateful of you folks sharing your time and making these videos to share with us. Some of us know just how much time it takes to edit and load these videos and we greatly appreciate you doing so!

  • @thedave7760

    @thedave7760

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hope you are healing well.

  • @codygibson2809

    @codygibson2809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey I hope you are doing well!

  • @mjallenuk
    @mjallenuk7 жыл бұрын

    I cannot begin to imagine how much work you put into making this video... It was totally worth it.

  • @marcellemay7721

    @marcellemay7721

    6 жыл бұрын

    Matt Allen Tony pours a lot of work into his editing which is what makes his channel so awesome to watch. He's a skilled machinist as well as a skilled editor. 😊

  • @XSspeeds
    @XSspeeds5 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching Keith for years. This was so well done and just hilarious. I really like how you unite so many familiar you tubers in some of your videos. Since I haven't watched television in ( I can't even remember) 8 years or so, you guys have become my celebrates. Well done!!!

  • @TheNefastor
    @TheNefastor5 жыл бұрын

    Did you account for the tides ? Lunar gravity throws my lathe out of alignment every couple of weeks.

  • @xPentag0n

    @xPentag0n

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're joking but Airbus had problems with that :D

  • @andrewyork3869

    @andrewyork3869

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@xPentag0n I find that level of precise mind boggling.

  • @railgap

    @railgap

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewyork3869 prepare to have your mind blown... kzread.info/dash/bejne/pXqmuMaof8vbYbQ.html -- my machinist friend is happy if he can hold a tenth. I'm an amateur and I have never needed to do better than a thousandth - good enough for heat shrink fits, small O-ring grooves, and so on. But this guy - THIS GUY - ye gods! He's so next-level I can't see his level from here.

  • @markfergerson2145

    @markfergerson2145

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewyork3869 Ask a machinist if you can park a shop heater next to his lathe.

  • @andrewyork3869

    @andrewyork3869

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@markfergerson2145 so much more goes into machining then it seems on the surface.

  • @user990077
    @user9900777 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely hilarious! Especially because I have watched a lot of videos from both Keith and you over the last few years. Thanks for cheering me up.

  • @djwebb11
    @djwebb117 жыл бұрын

    Watching and listening to this made my week. I had just finished watching Keith's new vid and here he was again. Well Done

  • @BuildSomthingCool
    @BuildSomthingCool7 жыл бұрын

    For the record Toni I shot that Lathe leveling video 3 1/2 years ago when I was living in the mountains of north Idaho. I was not 16, I was 18 yr old, but since I've been living here in hot humid Atlanta I've aged almost 35 years. I think I should move back. LOL

  • @FtaBta

    @FtaBta

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Move back here to Idaho!

  • @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662
    @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm66622 жыл бұрын

    Great combination of two of my favorite KZread machining content providers! Nicely done, Tony! I was laughing aloud! Hats off to Keith….I am sure he is good-natured enough to appreciate this in full.

  • @DoRiteFabrication
    @DoRiteFabrication7 жыл бұрын

    Great job, that took a lot of work. Very entertaining and educational, a combination that is often hard to achieve. Strong work!

  • @ThisOldTony

    @ThisOldTony

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jim! A pleasure to see you here.

  • @DoRiteFabrication

    @DoRiteFabrication

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm quietly in the background a lot....learning from the masters!

  • @jonwatte4293
    @jonwatte42935 жыл бұрын

    That mock-up is super great. Your movies are such wonderful bits of presentation and editing. Glad I found them, and thanks for making them!

  • @samueltaylor4989
    @samueltaylor49895 жыл бұрын

    “Chrome, vanadium, drop forged made in Japan” ;”Close ; cast iron made in England”!!! I was crying, laughing so hard!

  • @johncoops6897

    @johncoops6897

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, you sure are easily amused. The rest of us heard it as a boring, irrelevant waste of time that wasn't even funny.

  • @vladimirpoutine4140

    @vladimirpoutine4140

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johncoops6897 You replied to a year old comment just to be an ass. Keep to yourself sometimes kiddo. :)

  • @ferrumignis

    @ferrumignis

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johncoops6897 Not sure why you say _"the rest of us"_ since the vast majority of TOT viewers aren't miserable pricks like you.

  • @MG-nz6bx
    @MG-nz6bx6 жыл бұрын

    That was one of my favorite videos i've ever watched on youtube! I watch all of keiths videos. Going to be watching all of yours too. Super well done, man. Thanks a ton!

  • @cpcoark
    @cpcoark2 жыл бұрын

    Watched this again 6 years later and still enjoy it. It also refreshed some forgotten nightmares, ERR, memories. :-)

  • @garybecker2624
    @garybecker26247 жыл бұрын

    one of the best, makes learning fun, enjoy watching you and Keith

  • @Makercise
    @Makercise7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the really stomach cramping laughs in this one. I love your videos and look forward to them. Great stuff every time!

  • @ajtrvll
    @ajtrvll7 жыл бұрын

    This Old Tony : one of the most entertaining KZread creators I know... Keep up the great work !

  • @BillyTpower
    @BillyTpower7 жыл бұрын

    the very best lathe leveling vid I've seen, now you see what can be accomplished when you put your head together with a Jedi Master

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla19877 жыл бұрын

    This is the most amusing video to date! I really home Keith got a chuckle out of this too! Nice work, sir.

  • @ThisOldTony

    @ThisOldTony

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Tech.. that makes two of us. :)

  • @millomweb

    @millomweb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThisOldTony Do you communicate by e-mail ? I'm looking for a communicative person with a Student !

  • @myroutercnc
    @myroutercnc7 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work as always Tony. I'm sure Keith will love it too! Just fitting DROs to my new lathe, and then onto the levelling so this video was well timed.

  • @MukhtharAhmed
    @MukhtharAhmed7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, you do put in lot of time and effort to create such good content. Appreciate your humor.

  • @I3urnHard
    @I3urnHard7 жыл бұрын

    I love Keith, this mash up is just what this weekend needed :D

  • @jurekdekarski2316
    @jurekdekarski23167 жыл бұрын

    Toooney, as a student and beginner cnc-operator I love your videos. Always fun to watch and informative. This one was great, keep it up.

  • @SamEEE12
    @SamEEE127 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your decication to the craft of filmmaking. All the best from NZ

  • @a-yates
    @a-yates5 жыл бұрын

    That was awesome! Keith did a great job what a great community of metal workers.

  • @RicardoJunqueira
    @RicardoJunqueira4 жыл бұрын

    I find it really amusing how I can laugh so bad yet learn so much with a video about tuning up a lathe. Thank you, Tony. I love your channel.

  • @TheScottyboyee
    @TheScottyboyee2 жыл бұрын

    Tony, I want to thank you. your videos have led me to the purchase of a lathe and a mill. I am currently setting everything up and rewatching your videos for help

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls20050192277 жыл бұрын

    Hands down the most hilarious machining video I've ever watched! Great info as well. Thanks!

  • @chaseweeks2708
    @chaseweeks27087 жыл бұрын

    I swear, you make some of the funniest educational videos I've ever seen. Thank you.

  • @MG-nz6bx
    @MG-nz6bx7 жыл бұрын

    that was amazing! you're officially one of my 3 favorite youtubers along with keith and ave now!

  • @bostondan77
    @bostondan777 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you for your time invested to teach and make it fun.

  • @parraandy97
    @parraandy977 жыл бұрын

    Great editing as always tony! Hilarious and informative

  • @hatersaywhat8986
    @hatersaywhat89867 жыл бұрын

    I can't mash the like button enough! You sir have entertained an unentertainable person. Once again, great content and production at the highest level

  • @gatling185
    @gatling1857 жыл бұрын

    Is there some kind of award for this performance? I have never seen/heard such a dry subject keep me so entertained/listening and informed as this!!! Great, creative, WOW!!!!

  • @tomherd4179
    @tomherd41797 жыл бұрын

    Great comedy team, thanks for the video and laughs.

  • @Myrulv
    @Myrulv2 жыл бұрын

    TOT: You are a fabulous teacher. I have leveled machines as a job, and you really makes it understandable. 🤗

  • @intjonmiller
    @intjonmiller7 жыл бұрын

    It gets harder to pick a favorite of your videos every time you upload a new one. :)

  • @Daravigos

    @Daravigos

    4 жыл бұрын

    Two years later and it's impossible to pick just one favorite

  • @jeremyindenver
    @jeremyindenver7 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are so good. Great quality, and super original. Keep it up!

  • @NulledMedia
    @NulledMedia7 жыл бұрын

    Best youtube collaboration I've seen to date!

  • @Snipermac99
    @Snipermac996 жыл бұрын

    I'm impressed by your commitment to the bit.

  • @David_Best
    @David_Best7 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video. I'm in the process of installing and leveling a new lathe myself, so this was timely. But I'm also an avid watcher of Keith Fenner's videos, and I laughed aloud throughout your video. Very entertaining as well as educational. If only all KZread stars were as good . . . Thanks for doing this.

  • @rosswaring2835
    @rosswaring28356 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tony. Your mock up really helped explain the issues. Greet work.

  • @longrangesweden
    @longrangesweden7 жыл бұрын

    I'm a changed man after watching this video! I must admit that i thought that the leveling didn´t do that much, but afte watching you put that piece of material under one of the leveling feets and show the differens it made i'v changed my mind. Thank you for your time!

  • @bryanboyd9453
    @bryanboyd94533 жыл бұрын

    If and when I need cheered up, simply laugh, and learn TOT and Keith. Both of you at your best!!!

  • @cosimomarotta9552
    @cosimomarotta95527 жыл бұрын

    Tony is always a nice surprise. I am happy i found his channel and hope he will produce more and more contents. Applause.

  • @jescheffler
    @jescheffler7 жыл бұрын

    Great video and, as always, I enjoy your sense of humor

  • @davidduffy9806
    @davidduffy98067 жыл бұрын

    Dear, This Old Tony.... another brilliant, witty and very well edited vid.

  • @muskegsmith3388
    @muskegsmith33887 жыл бұрын

    there are a lot of components involved in accuracy, and yer efforts certainly helped, and I busted a gut with the humor, thanks for your video work

  • @ac4uv
    @ac4uv5 жыл бұрын

    This video was enlightening, thank you for being an outstanding mentor TOT. Happy Chips

  • @r777w
    @r777w7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, that was incredibly useful. I thought I understood the various geometric issues at hand, but you really brought it all together nicely and I definitely learned a few things.Kudos on what must have been a ton of editing to get Keith to visit. He's a stubborn bugger.

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball7 жыл бұрын

    Sure could have used (understand) this information years ago when I got my "well worked" lathe! Great vid again!

  • @rubbadubdub7857
    @rubbadubdub78577 жыл бұрын

    I recognized Keith Fenner's voice in the very first two words of your video. I continue to love your wry and droll sense of humor! Just great, Dude!

  • @b3nsb3nz
    @b3nsb3nz7 жыл бұрын

    oh man this is awesome, cracking me up at breakfast. nice work as usual man, very entertaining!

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller7 жыл бұрын

    Over the top Tony! Informative AND I LMAO! Thanks for the info and thank you Keith for helping out....

  • @CwazyWabbits
    @CwazyWabbits7 жыл бұрын

    That was excellent! You are a very talented guy, thoroughly enjoyed the video :)

  • @justinhobbs7514
    @justinhobbs75147 жыл бұрын

    Wish the like button could be clicked more than once, great job Tony as always. Thanks man!!

  • @lewisheard1882
    @lewisheard18827 жыл бұрын

    Great vid as always, I really like the mock ups! Helps me follow along

  • @jameskarl424
    @jameskarl4242 жыл бұрын

    I cannot believe I missed this video. The world needs you, Tony.

  • @daviddominessy
    @daviddominessy7 жыл бұрын

    Loved this one! Excellent work and great humor!

  • @gregmcmurrey6640
    @gregmcmurrey66405 жыл бұрын

    Great video and love the comedy!! I could watch your videos all day.

  • @kingcrunch85
    @kingcrunch857 жыл бұрын

    This was enjoyable, really liked the choice and editing of Keiths comments.

  • @sashcsgo
    @sashcsgo Жыл бұрын

    tony you make me giggle like a little kid. thank you for all of this, greeting from germany

  • @eefalzer
    @eefalzer7 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely hilarious. I love your videos and Keith's videos.

  • @mikedelam
    @mikedelam7 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Funny as hell, too. Nice of Keith to contribute as well.

  • @wildbill9480
    @wildbill94806 жыл бұрын

    watching your videos is time well spent - awesome!!!

  • @johnmcdonnell6109
    @johnmcdonnell61097 жыл бұрын

    Great topic and absolutely hilarious! Thanks Tony!

  • @barryantrim6508
    @barryantrim65087 жыл бұрын

    hi tiny another great video. great sense of humor. I've never seen a lathe set up that way before. I've always separated the leveling process from the tailstock adjustment. I've always hung a shorter piece of material in the chuck without the tailstock in play and took a very light cut. adjust the levelers until the cut is true. at this point the ways are parallel to the center axis of the machine. Next mount a piece between centers and if you're cutting a taper then the tailstock is adjusted to correct. in your method any twisting of the ways will influence the part via the tail stock. I hope that makes sense. at the end of the day if it's cutting right then method isn't a problem. just thought you might want to hear my way. why I don't know LOL THANKS again for great video. I'm always waiting for more of yours.

  • @ThisOldTony

    @ThisOldTony

    7 жыл бұрын

    What you described is correct. Didn't intend to do a step by step (I think I make ref to that in the beginning?), more meant to expose that lathe alignment affects the work and how it does that. In my case my lathe was fine (headstock, tailstock, twist) before I moved it. It started turning a taper after I moved it back .. so I already knew what the problem was. Thanks for watching and good comment! Maybe I have to do a follow up.

  • @peterpantsher

    @peterpantsher

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was looking for this answer, but being a newbie I thought I better read all the accolades rather than ask a dumb questions 4 years after the fact. Cheers guys

  • @shawnlund
    @shawnlund7 жыл бұрын

    Simply brilliant Tony, great idea of having Keith over to the shop to answer a few questions we have all been dying to know. I'm glad you had the courage to ask about the desiccant thing, probably easier for Keith to open up to another KZread machinist celebrity.

  • @OldIronShops
    @OldIronShops7 жыл бұрын

    Tony you always make such entertaining vides even if they weren't about machining they'd still be fin to watch.

  • @c.barr813
    @c.barr8137 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos, this one especially. Keep them coming!

  • @beernd4822
    @beernd48226 жыл бұрын

    Great show, informative and funny. Thanks Tony

  • @tuscanland
    @tuscanland7 жыл бұрын

    The most original and entertaining, that's for sure!

  • @ButBigger42
    @ButBigger427 жыл бұрын

    Alright, Old Tony, I am quickly running out of your videos to watch. You got to make more of them. Like, quit your job and just make youtube videos. I promise to like every single one of them. Now that is something you can take to the bank and pay rent with. KZread likes.

  • @ThisOldTony

    @ThisOldTony

    7 жыл бұрын

    ha! thanks Nick!

  • @Simon-rx2ow
    @Simon-rx2ow3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, very clear instructions and teachings

  • @framavia2201
    @framavia22017 жыл бұрын

    Superb!! informative - and put me in a better mood too! love it. I have the same old colchester lathe, might be time to do a few tests on that - I think the world has twisted a bit since I first installed it!

  • @chrismorton9736
    @chrismorton97365 жыл бұрын

    That was hilarious !!! You guys should do more of these.

  • @aga5897
    @aga58975 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant timing ! My mini lathe is almost running with a washing machine motor, and the thing turned tapers straight out of the box. Now i got a clue what to go looking for to fix that. Thanks !

  • @vbidou17
    @vbidou177 жыл бұрын

    Gentlemens, thank you from France for this very comprehensive and useful vidéo ! It will serve my Colchester Triumph 2000. François

  • @benstrock
    @benstrock7 жыл бұрын

    I love it! Good job with the editing. I'm sure Keith will get a kick out of it too.

  • @CNCJoeFromRomeo
    @CNCJoeFromRomeo5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for putting it together!

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog19412 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Link on Dale Derry / Metal Tips & Tricks Leveling a Lathe. a unique and doable by most anyone especially those who do not have an expensive Precision Lathe Level

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden1236987457 жыл бұрын

    You're a brilliant youtuber

  • @davidcampbell4743
    @davidcampbell47437 жыл бұрын

    Dude that was hilarious and entertaining and informative. Three thumbs up

  • @markalbrecht2444
    @markalbrecht24445 жыл бұрын

    Glove the videos Tony, keep them coming . Thanks

  • @timothyprochilo4840
    @timothyprochilo48405 жыл бұрын

    Great video. My old atlas has been out 5 thou over 24". Could only use it for short stuff and the parts were still tapered. Got it down to 1/2 thou over the entire 40" bed. THANKS THIS OLD TONY!!!

  • @Pappaoh
    @Pappaoh2 жыл бұрын

    This vid still cracks me up. Love the exaggerated model to show twist can affect relative tool position.

  • @bwood454
    @bwood4547 жыл бұрын

    Great work, hilarious! Keep them coming!

  • @pine-Land
    @pine-Land7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Fun and I learned something, rare combo nowadays!

  • @Hex173t
    @Hex173t7 жыл бұрын

    Ok - this vid is going into my favorites list for watching whenever I need a laugh! Funniest thing I've seen in a while. Already watched it several times and it's still making me guffaw :D

  • @rifleman154
    @rifleman1546 жыл бұрын

    I've never laughed so hard at a video about machining, good work!

  • @thomasutley
    @thomasutley7 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. Two of my favorites.

  • @guitarrelic
    @guitarrelic7 жыл бұрын

    Just brilliant. A masterpiece. I see that some people have zero sense of humour here and don't read the description either.

  • @volkeresper9519
    @volkeresper95194 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for that video! I always wondered why manufacturers making such a hype with leveling lathes with a 300$ machinists level. Now I know... Great job! Volker

  • @joepie221
    @joepie2217 жыл бұрын

    Ok, I actually like leveling lathes. Its a challenge to do and keep your sanity at the same time. My question is, how do you know that 'V' block you used on the front rail and that 1-2-3 block on its 2" side are parallel across the top? Did you cut the 'V' block? Nice level by the way.

  • @bstanga

    @bstanga

    7 жыл бұрын

    @ 18:14 he says they are not the right blocks, but he has the combination somewhere :-)

  • @barrygerbracht5077

    @barrygerbracht5077

    7 жыл бұрын

    He said he was just getting the bubble within the range he could read relative changes from one position to the next. It is irrelevant if the lathe is actually level. It is important that it is not twisted.

  • @joepie221

    @joepie221

    7 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Constant is a good indicator too. Thanks

  • @PeterWMeek

    @PeterWMeek

    7 жыл бұрын

    You could use a planer gauge or adjustable parallel as part of one stack to get both sides equal.

  • @rosemaryrobartes1743

    @rosemaryrobartes1743

    7 жыл бұрын

    How about an accurate automatic site level and a set of verniers ?

  • @calebkreller2156
    @calebkreller21566 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t laughed this much in a long time! Great video!

  • @bobmccown4588
    @bobmccown45887 жыл бұрын

    "My parts are small, or I can compensate" That's just too much information.

  • @yusufmirgoul3541

    @yusufmirgoul3541

    5 жыл бұрын

    the first guy on KZread to admit his parts are small

  • @chanakyasinha8046

    @chanakyasinha8046

    4 жыл бұрын

    And it turned out tapered

  • @419thmilitia

    @419thmilitia

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just knew there was a "thats what she said" coming but I guess not.

  • @cherr979
    @cherr9794 жыл бұрын

    FANTASTIC VIDEO. I wish now that I had spent ore time in the "Metal Shop" , verses the "WOOD SHOP" back in Jr/ Senior HIgh ... GREATLY ENTERTAINING !!

  • @a.bergantini4129
    @a.bergantini41296 жыл бұрын

    This video is so funny! Thanks for making it!

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