What the madam from Izu was imagining were what would become the geisha! They became respected guild of artisans and entertainers in Japanese culture during the Edo period. This show is full of these historical hints of what is to come!

@MiaH56

26 күн бұрын

Never mixed up those courtesan with Geisha. They are completely different.

@kaelinvictus6039

26 күн бұрын

Memoirs from willow land

29:25 Sometimes even stupid, empty deaths aren't insignificant. This show was so so good.

Madam Izu was telling Toronaga she knows he has a plan (his secret heart) and that's why she was making future plans. She knew he was going to win. Remember what Mariko said - "my lord is famous for his trickery"

@benwarwick4290

25 күн бұрын

Let's be honest his tricks wore dumb. Dressed up as a woman and hid in a carriage which if it wasn't for John he'd of been caught. Keeps changing John's agreement untill he gives in. Well after you know who's death. Let's his best friend die, to make everyone believe he had given up. Yet the very next episode no one brought it, so his death was in vain. Using his sons death was grim. And ep 9 ending. Will admit was a little clever but still lacking. Then learning of the secret spy wasn't really trickery.

@waseemakhter4578

23 күн бұрын

​@@benwarwick4290true what kind a rubbish planning is that after 7 episode it was kind a boring to me to many sacrifices for nothing

26:17 The shock these men bear for making our day a little better. You’re welcome 😂

and that conversation between the tea house lady and Toranaga is the beggining of concept of Geisha. Kiku was already doing Geisha work but there wasn't a name for it so she was called and treated as a courtesan.

All of your expressions at the end of this episode were absolutely priceless. 😁👍🏻

@nubzors

26 күн бұрын

Their speculation about what might happen next was priceless too. ;)

I've been anticipating your reactions on these last episodes. So pleased you all are watching this series! The characters in this show are written with such depth.

Love the shock in your eyes at 26:17😂

The actress who plays Madame Gin is magnificent. The way her voice changes from accomodating to menacing in an instant, great acting.

This show is just masterful!!! The shock & awe of ur faces are delightful❤💞❤️

I cant help feeling sorry for Buntaro. Guy got dealt a bad hand in life and he just isn't equipped to handle his wife's trauma.

@believeume122

26 күн бұрын

I agree. It's the narrative to see him as a bad guy. But I can see both sides. I find it laughable when reactors get mad at Buntaro for not wanting Blackthorne around his Mariko. As if they would want their wife flirting/sleeping with another man.

@PROVOCATEURSK

26 күн бұрын

A hobbit would tell him to get a second breakfest and a second wife.

@ronweber1402

26 күн бұрын

He truly thought that by sparing Mariko's life it would buy her love but he just has no idea of her motivations and the more he tries the more he fucks up.

Regardless of how you feel about Buntaro, it is still his wife. You wouldn't want your wife and the person she's sleeping with doing it in your face. Let's get real. This world and their culture is all about respect. You have to stop having a modern take on it.

@actionalex3611

24 күн бұрын

This

I do like your reactions but i think you are misreading this series for waiting for "the action". It's not about that and yet it's one of the best series I have ever seen.

@NukeSaturn_

26 күн бұрын

Agreed, there is action and its good when its there but the show is more about the stakes of the events

@golden--hand

26 күн бұрын

I don't think they are 'misreading' at all. The show has all the cues we are used to in media to signal action is intimate. Its done on purpose to build that tension, and then doesn't deliver the expected release so you remain tense and expect something has to happen soon. They are reading it as designed I think.

@actionalex3611

24 күн бұрын

For sure. A lot is hidden in the dialogue, little gems easily missed.

Don't focus too much on the action Badd Medicine, this is a far more clever story than that. Love ya reactions

@Baddmedicine, 30:00 Oak, are you thinking about this from Lord Toranaga's point of view or yours? Toranaga, and everyone around him, is in lockstep with the rules and conduct of Japan. Everyone stays in their lane...well, almost everyone--we just saw what happens to someone who stepped out of it, and it didn't end well for Yoshii (Toranaga's eldest son). In any case, this episode showed us what Lord Toranaga was like when he was 12 years old, and I think you'd agree that he's the same person now. Change, drastic change isn't a thing here. Fuji, Buntaro, Mariko, heck even Yabushige, they all stay in their lane. They might speak of doing other things out of frustration, but they are all tethered to their culture and social roles. Fuji wants to play her part and join her late husband and child. The only thing stopping her is her duty to her lord. Mariko wants to join her late family, but she can't either. She told us in this episode that her life belongs to her husband and that she cannot die unless he wills it, and even then it isn't that easy since her newfound religion forbids it. Buntaro was to kill John something fierce, but he can't because his lord forbids it. No matter how badly Buntaro wants to kill John, he will not go against his lord's will. Everyone has a role to play; they will do as their culture dictates because everyone stays in their lane. The biggest difference between Japan and Western countries is that Japan is a homogenous country; its people are united by history, culture, and customs, one that is thousands of years old. Japan's only real outside influence before religion entered the country was China, and even that was minimal as China didn't really want anything to do with Japan at the time. Filial piety is a Chinese import and it still shapes Japan to this day. Men are at the top of their family pyramid, the father followed by the firstborn son--if the grandfather is still living, he of course is above the father, as we see here with Buntaro's father and Fuji's grandfather, Hiromatsu (Toranaga's right hand). Fuji obeys the command of her uncle, Buntaro, until it goes against norms. Hatamoto is a rank above Buntaro's station, which is why Fuji was allowed to speak to her uncle the way she did two stories back when she told him that she had been ordered to serve John while refusing to answer his question. Buntaro, in turn, knew not to take the matter any further, as well. A person's family is their first pyramid, and their family are members of a larger community--there is always a more noble person sitting at the top of that pyramid, and they will give that person the respect he deserves while following his decree. For this village, that person was Yabushige, but the person above him is Toranaga, which is why he's the one pulling the shots here. John sees things differently, as you do because he is from a different world which was influenced by wars and the mingling of other cultures: the English, Spaniards, Portuguese, etc. They have things in common with one another, but they are all at each other's throats. That isn't the case in Japan. Religion in Japan is anything like what John has experienced. Religion is more like culture/customs then and now. One's lord feudal lord is who brings everyone together, and they all live by his command. Sure, we see the regents plotting to reshape Japan, particularly Ishido, but we also see others slow-walking those plans. They agree to a point, but they all don't want the same things and that's playing out in the open. Still, we see the regents following protocol even while they plot to take control--everyone, even when seeking power--stays in their lane, lol. Yoshii, Lord Toranaga's son really wanted to make a name for himself. And why wouldn't he? He's the son of a war hero, and he's got big shoes to feel. Society expects great things from Yoshii; the weight on his shoulders must be crushing. Look at the late Taiko's son, Yaechiyo, he's only 14 and he's expected to do what his father did and then some. Everyone in society knows their place, and they don't step out of it. Without a grand intervention like Ishido promoting an actor to Regent or Lord Toranaga making John his Hatamoto or the like, you are stuck in the role you were born into. Everyone in this period stays in their lane, including Lord Toranaga.

kura yuki on the thumbnail (nagakoda's actor) loved him since his leading role in a japanese queer drama called "his - i didn't think i would fall in love" released in 2019. a very talented actor also still really young! most of his projects are indie series or movies so im actually really glad he finally got the recognition internationally and starring in a high budget project.

I only realized buntaro gets defensive as soon as he says your first kill is better than your first woman since he really loves Mariko and can’t take any form of disrespect to her. Also just to be sure buntaro’s problem stems from the fact that he loves Mariko but all she ever wants is to be dead and keeps asking for it ever since they got married so he can’t take it anymore and is breaking. He can’t leave her since he doesn’t know what she will do, can’t be with her because she is not happy so he does only thing he knows best as a warrior brute force the problem away.

@DanteRU0312

26 күн бұрын

He doesn't love her. Did you miss the whole scene with him beating the shit out of her, shooting an arrow in her face and calling her less than human for being a daughter of a traitor? Some people, smh.

Madame Izu was pointing out that Lord Toranaga had spies EVERYWHERE so how did he not know about his brother's army stationed at every entrance. Even though I knew to expect his son's death it was still a shock when it happened. This is such an amazing series. There are rumours that they're working on a season 2. If Sanada san is as involved in it as he was with this one, then I will watch it. Otherwise.....I won't even bother

@ronweber1402

26 күн бұрын

I can't believe the boys didn't catch that. Madame Izu knew full well that Toranaga knew his brother was approaching with an army and let him know that she knows he knew.

@actionalex3611

24 күн бұрын

@@ronweber1402 To much talk and guessing instead of keeping close attention. They´ll get there.

14:46. "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we become fond of it". Willliam Tecumseh Sherman.

I love the argument at the end. its a true reaction of the show. not just facial expressions but a proper talk like this

What and end to an episode! & Loved your shocked reactions & listening to your spirited debate discussions with each other, it shows how highly invested you all are with the story & its characters! 🙂 The John sword scene & Buntaro tension is definitely intensely rising too!.

Laughing so hard at MQ and Answer at the end, with Oak an Dave just making faces off to the side. Great end to my night, thanks guys I really needed that.

Geisha's are so beautiful. I'm glad it was brought up

Hey guys! Just want yo let you guys know that Godzilla Minus one is out on Netflix now, would loved to see you guys react to it

The scene where Toronaga was tossing the stone onto the gate was adlibed, the idea came from one of the costume guys who used to do it as a child

I just realized that these guys seriously need to see the Lego movie if they haven’t already 😭😭

If a feudal lord died, his Samurai became Ronin - masterless Samurai. They would well have sought another master. He is their source of food, shelter, clothing, and gear.

Diamond Dave has always felt familiar to me, and I finally realized it's because he resembles Jimmy Jacobs!

Big love from UK🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🫡

I would LOVE to see you guys do a reaction to the Kill Bill duology! If you havent already seen it :) I love your guys’ videos 😁

I'm so early today. So obsessed with your reactions

@Anna-xi8hu

26 күн бұрын

please tell me when is life stream again?

I thought this was a one and done show/season but apparently FX Hulu just ordered two more seasons.

@BaddMedicine

26 күн бұрын

Looking forward to it. Thank you for the super 🤜🤛

Cheers guys 🏆

Hi fellas! Idk if you’ve watched the show, and it’s 6 seasons long, but I’d love for you all to react to the show “THIS IS US”. It’s super wholesome, sad, and sweet-all about family, and hits you right in the feels. I think you all, but especially Oak, would love it!

watching this and playing ghost of tsushima and rise of the ronin in the same period is awesome. lol

Highly recommend you guys to watch Ep9 and 10 together in one session. They are epic and you won't regard it.

Please maka a video on Mastaaney. It is an Indian punjabi movie. It is based on history of Sikhs how they fought against inhumanity and saved 22000 Womens from Abdali Army. The producers of this movie really need support of good creaters like you. This is very high budget movie but the collection of this movie is not enough to inspire the creators of the industry so that they could make more movies on History to inspire the whole world. This movie will inspire you a lot and you will feel goosebumps after watching the movie based on the bravest community in the world. I hope you will make a video on this movie. We will be very thankful to you. From: A normal student. ❤❤❤

"Green Street", a movie about the british Hooligan scene. With Elijah Wood and Charlie Hunnam. Please watch it, one the most underrated movies of both actors

Why does every reactor say that would’ve been nagakados first kill? Like 2 episodes ago he chopped the guys head off after tearing them up with cannons

Mason... Listen to the Appleton Oak ... He's got the foresight on this like a chess master.

At the end of this episode I was as stunned as when Jaime lost his hand.

Torinaga is a fox, he uses everyone to gain what he wants.

Great reaction to a great show! 💪😎💪 Suggestion: Vikings ;) ya'll will love that (even if your editor will want to die 😂🤣🤣)

"Contact" is the sci-fi where they built the 2nd machine in secret. Funny that you mention it. The 2nd machine was built in Japan. They mined the IP instead of submitting a candidate to send on the expedition. A very Japanese way of thinking, they get all the technical upgrades, knowledge of the universe, all the initial testing problems worked out by someone else, none of the bad attention that come with being public. So when it all went to hell, none of the blame comes on them. It is easier as an outsider to their culture to think of how to fix the ending as an outsider, as John. Toronaga has to finish it. 8 fold fence, how many layers deep is the solution?

No no no, guys. You are experiencing this story through a different perspective. Toranaga doesn't want anyone to grow into anything. He needs them to be around until their roles are fulfilled.

FYI the last person to commit seppuku was far-right nationalist Mishima Yukio in like 1972 after he tried to stage a coup.

YEESS!!! GIVE IT TO ME

@42:20 sounds like Contact, great movie though

I mean if another landslide was to happen, where his brothers Army is cramped and 1 cannon could do the damage of 100 men.....

Have you guys seen Kingdom? The Korean tv show?

Ah isn't it cute how deep the white saviour trope is established that even after the show made clear again and again that Blackthorne is a pawn and a distraction people still come up with plans how his "superior" Europen knowledge, tactics or different view on things will win the day. Not saying he won't be useful in the Episodes to come. But so far neither side ever really considered any of his proposals. The main function he had was as a pawn to play with the Portugese and the christian Damios. And let's not forget that Toronaga also has implied to the priests that he can see a future where he hands over the barbarian to pay for his crimes should they convince the christian Damios that Ishido and not him is the one they should oppose.

@iamai_iggs

26 күн бұрын

I've legit seen people complaining about the ending of this show because of how insignificant john's role turned out to be and how toranaga said he kept john around because he was funny :))) guess I shouldn't be surprised that this show is a bad match for the badd medicine crew

@believeume122

26 күн бұрын

I agree. I love the reactions to the show but I find myself forwarding past all of John's scenes. Most people don't hold him accountable for anything. I also dislike that out of all of the people in this land Mariko has to sleep with the "white knight". Reactors cheer them on, while getting mad every time her husband has a problem with it. It's ridiculous.

@golden--hand

26 күн бұрын

To be fair, the show is written to give you that impression. John isn't a side character like Yabushige or Buntaro or something. And because of how media is formatted we expect main characters to play big roles. John is prominently displayed as the 'main' character of Shogun, I'd say he has more screen time then Toranaga, the true main character of the show. So the expectation is there regardless of the white savior trope. I absolutely agree some people fall into seeing this show through that lens, its hard not to considering how media for almost all time has been represented. But I think its fair to recognize the way the show is structured would likely lead someone who has never been exposed to that white savior perspective would still probably expect john to serve some greater role just because of how they chose to represent him as a character. And I think that's intentional. I'd say the vast majority root for John, not because 'white is right' or some kind of white savior brainwashing, its just cause that's how media intentionally makes you feel about main characters, we know them best and want them to succeed. Even shows where the main characters are bad guys who's morals we don't align with we root for because as the main character we know them best. The exact same, but less race/culture thing, could be said of peoples expectations of impending 'action' in this show too. The show makes you think a huge battle is on the horizon quite frequently, there are the narrative cues people have been trained to recognize in media that leads them to expect particular outcomes, but often the action is short lived compared to the buildup in other shows. When i first watched this series wanted John to get more involved not because he was a white guy so therefore knew better, but because I was hoping he was earning respect and could be helpful to Toranaga's cause because John had become actively eager to do so, he had started to assimilate to the culture and felt he belonged. I enjoyed seeing him adapt and find purpose here even if it was misguided. Anyway, my point is, I don't exactly think its fair to assume people who want to see Johns plans work out or to get more involved are entirely 'white savor' mentality people. I have seen others that absolutely do seem to come from that perspective, where they seem to know their modern perspective is best and that the European guy has it more figured out then the Japanese people. I don't think I see that here from this channel...

@LaCheeserie

26 күн бұрын

@@golden--handthis

@LaCheeserie

26 күн бұрын

@@believeume122 yeah a lot of hate to hubby, but dude is written to be hated. That said, rooting for John and Mariko, no! She is such a BA. At least he didn’t pillow Fuji

Novels? I read this years ago, it was a paperback about 5 inches thick. Thanx for the video.

Game of Thrones did the sound into the credits. Is that what Dave meant by wanting an accident at the end?

Please watch MOVING it is a high quality kdrama about superpowers

I would love for you to react to Alias Grace! Such an underrated show

Saeki: insults Toranaga right in his face in front of all his retainers. Oak: I don't like the way they're shooting this... I mean, sure, just a weird thing to focus on in noticing that the situation is becoming fucked.

@ronweber1402

26 күн бұрын

Jesus Christ he was talking about the ominous tone the scene was taking and how it was turning fucked.

@elianaxjulia

26 күн бұрын

⁠@@ronweber1402I think maybe the comment above was just pointing out how Oak didn’t quite pick up on the significance of the stories Saeki was saying. Instead of reacting to the content of Saeki’s words, Oak only noticed the reaction of the various vassals/mood of the room as well as the filming techniques used to emphasise the change in situation, as Saeki reveals that instead of being an ally, he has betrayed Toranaga. I might be wrong, but I feel like that was ultimately the message of the comment - just that the reactors didn’t catch something important, and only caught on to something of less significance

lol why does Oak keep saying the brother killed the son? The son clearly attached him in HIS living quarters, then slipped and cracked his skull. It wouldn't take an autopsy to figure that out.

With them boiling a man alive in the first episode probably should have given you an idea on what the tone of visuals was going to be 😉

I know this is not related but would you guys try more animes? And have a spot we can recommend shows? Would LOVE to see you guys watch My Hero Academia

Mariko's way of fighting is not what you think. She has expressed her wish to die since episode 1 and has never waivered from it. NOt once.

you guys have GOT to do "Dead Man's Shoes" 2004 (Paddy Considine)

I can't wait for the next tuesday. I mean serious.

Have y'all watched Brother Bear 1 and 2 yet?! Awesome visuals and meanings

@MiaH56

26 күн бұрын

Not a Disney fan at all but Brother Bear is one of my all time favorite❤

These guys would like the movie Pain & Gain. Bodybuilder crime movie based on true events.

Early gang

Can you guys react to the lion king if y'all haven't alr!

Hi guys this john from India ( tamilnadu) i was big fan of your Chennal dude 😎 . Ok if you don't mind plz react our big black Buster movie in prime soorarai pottru it's pretty good movie do you really like this movie i think dudes 😅

Amazing video as always but PLEASE WATCH WILLYS WONDERLAND

Please please check out School Ties (Matt Damon and Brendan Fraser) and The fighter (mark wahlberg boxing movie)

Can yall react tp the lion king if yall HAVEN'T Alr:>

Please react to avesham .love form India 🎉❤

Can You React To The Movie “Migration” Please!

Can you guys PLEASE make a reaction to the Superman and Lois series? I can’t believe that it hasn’t got much coverage as it should.

@bazanime

26 күн бұрын

Alas, we live in a Marvel world, so DC stuff is a low priority unless it's Batman. Superman and Lois is a spectacular series very truly underrated.

Please react to Atlantis🙏

AAVESHAM MOVIE REACTION 🙏 🙏 🙏

Not really an action-based show. More poetic and meditative.

@LaCheeserie

26 күн бұрын

The trailer sells it as action. But I was pleasantly surprised by what the show was.

@elianaxjulia

25 күн бұрын

thissss. It’s in the trailer and mentioned in earlier episodes - talking about how the society they live in (feudal Japan) is so different, and how there are two types of leaders. There is one who works out in the open, and one in the shadows. In the very first episode Toranaga discusses the virtues of working behind the scenes and waiting for the right moment, as his falcon hides from its prey using the sun and then attacking at the opportune moment. This message has been scattered all throughout the episodes - it takes a different type of manoeuvring to get by in this political landscape. We as an audience might be more used/exposed to a certain type of leader and hero, but the rules are a bit different here. I wish Badd Medicine could understand this so that they might catch a bit more of what they’re missing, and better appreciate the nuances presented to them in the characters’ words and actions.

The director ended it with a Japanese dad joke. Ishi atama ' rock head ' is slang for stupid or stubborn. Ishi atama Yoshi was literally killed by an ishi atama. Morbid Japanese humor.

@MiaH56

26 күн бұрын

I am Japanese but it never crossed my mind and I doubt it😅

@mitzietheodore2589

26 күн бұрын

I truly wondered about the symbolism of him hitting his head on a rock and his Hard headed behaviour the whole show. Thoughtless and wreckless, he died the way he lived.

I like Bad Medicine usually, one of d best reactors but they seem ill suited 4 this exceptional show. It seems as if they're hoping 2 watch some action packed slapstick comedy or something! Which was fine in d initial episodes but it has been so annoying in d last few episodes when d sory has taken a very serious turn....taking abt more actions & laughing hysterically almost every other scene! Shogun is neither a full-blown action/war show nor is it that funny, even though there're some great fight scenes & hilarious dialogues/moments. It's a complex, serious & profound historical drama where each dialogue/action by characters have deep meaning...which Bad Medicine crew is totally missing in d middle of their inappropriate laughs & wrong theories/discussions.

I never liked the brother from the beginning. I found him rude and disrespectful. Maybe speak like that in private, but not in front of everyone. I found it intresting how you guys all trusted him so easily. Like you haven't been paying attention to what kind of show we are watching.

@golden--hand

26 күн бұрын

I guess it was rude from how we had seen people up until that point in the show. But almost everyone we had seen so far was just super duper formal because they are all involved in high politics and customs. He honestly just came off as laid back to me, a luxury of having some status but not being directly involved in the politics of the country, and a guy who casually takes the piss out of his younger brother which just seems like a common brotherly/family thing in some families. At least when they first introduce him I mean. From early in that night scene he seemed more rude I agree.

Watch jjk anime

Pleaseee someone get them to watch Soul and The Lovely Bones🫶🏼

@benwarwick4290

25 күн бұрын

Lovely bones might be too deep and dark for KZread. But yea both films are top.