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@danieladusei1993

Ай бұрын

Think story u need to do more video and your voice sounds like a robot looool😂

@squirlmy

Ай бұрын

idk, about the dream, mariko's medal wasn't unique, in fact I imagine the Portuguese priest would give her one fairly common back in his homeland. Plus, we come back to the dream, it's more than one scene. And when have you ever dreamed yourself to be very old? No dream I ever heard of includes the dreamer being old. Perhaps the scenes are meant to be ambiguous. You can think of it as a dream if you want. Maybe?

I want a season 2 buddy comedy, set in an alternate universe where Yabushige and John have their own adventures in London 🤣

@blas3266

Ай бұрын

Someone needs to do this atleast with a fan comic or manga, and I will support it 100% 😂😂😂

@SeanF374

Ай бұрын

This would be great! John and Yabushige go on the piss!

@CruzR1111

Ай бұрын

Brilliant idea. Rodriguez needs to be in it too! He was so funny. 😂

@marquislovett2987

Ай бұрын

Now that world would be hilarious 😭😭

@paulorocky

Ай бұрын

Giri Haji?

The women in this show are tough ladies. I love how Ochiba plays the innocent little girl while having all the power.

@unwokeneuropean3590

Ай бұрын

Toranaga as well seemed as the victim... till he was proven as the ultimate bad guy with all the plans in his favor.

@deadbutmoving

Ай бұрын

Many Westerners are unaware but, this is how Asian women are. When Asians see how Westerns fetishize and stereotype Asian women as subservient and mellow, we laugh to ourselves thinking "These people have no idea what they're up against".

@user-bu9sp6kk7q

Ай бұрын

@@unwokeneuropean3590thats the beauty of the finale for me. Its the grand reveal that he has manipulated almost everyone around him into getting what he ultimately wanted.

@blaster42008

Ай бұрын

It ruined it showing him for who he really was. He sacrificed alot of loyal, faithful followers for no reason.. for a plan of the heir to not bring his army and therefore Ishido will be fighting an illegal war and the other regents will stand aside. Mariko was best friends w the heirs mother and Taranagua didn't use it to bring the heirs mother into a marriage w himself.

@blaster42008

Ай бұрын

The women are amazing. Such strength and resilience and honor to family

You missed how Kashigi Yabushige almost committed sepuku on side of the cliff in the water (ep 1 I think) and now successfully commits sepuku and falls in the water (episode 10). There’s a lot of full circle

@Calinotch06

Ай бұрын

yes

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

In the water he did it on his own volition. This time he was ordered to commit suicide because of a psychopathic leader who kills his own people and friends and who loves burning down ships.

@rvheem7702

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump You can look at it like that, or you can say both are his own doing… He brought both situations on himself by being led by his ego, pride and lust for power but not being able to play the game…

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@rvheem7702 and when will we be notified whether or not this "master strategy" of killing his own people worked? All we have to go on is the day dreaming of a psychopathic "leader" who killed zero enemies and who slaughtered his own people. Me personally I don't think it'll work out

@unwokeneuropean3590

Ай бұрын

also Yabushige was sitting on the wooden throne while John was on his knees.... in the last episode Toranaga was sitting there and Yabushige was on his knees.

Taronaga playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers, using his Queen, Bishop and Knight to achieve his ultimate goal. The Art of War

@xczechr

Ай бұрын

Who?

@pewdiepiipewwie2904

Ай бұрын

​@@xczechr he was speaking about ishido

@tkelker

16 күн бұрын

More like everyone else plays Tic Tac Toe and Toranaga Chess

A war drama isn't always about fighting said war, but preventing it. It can also be about loving the women around you and pulling your ship out of the water with your new homies!

@marcwells5653

Ай бұрын

This is perfect😭😂

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

Agreed, this show is about a psychopath leader who loves killing his own people. Note that the only people Tarananga killed was his closest allies and closest friends. He's clearly the enemy in this show. He even burns down people's ships for his own amusement.

@MustardSkaven

Ай бұрын

The war wasn't prevented. He just made it so he has more numbers on his side in the upcoming battle.

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@MustardSkaven you don't know that. The flash forward was simply a day dream in this psychopath's head

@MustardSkaven

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump We know the war happens cause it's in the book.

I’m absolutely satisfied with not having a S2. The ending is perfect. Shogun is not about the Battle of Sekigahara, it’s the story of how Toranaga won that battle before swords were ever even drawn. And for that direction, the ending was perfect. And I honestly couldn’t have asked for a better ending.

@dlxmarks

3 күн бұрын

Given that Clavell's material is finished and the general track record for creating new material based on previous work isn't good, I'm fine with wishing there was more instead of regretting a bad second season.

"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting". -Sun-Tzu Torunaga embodied that perfectly. He sacrificed as few pieces on the board as possible and ensured their deaths all served a greater purpose. The other members on the council of regents threw away the lives of their subjects like they didn't matter and gained nothing from it.

As much as I loved the show, I don't want them to extend it making a second season.

@ibrahimguel90

Ай бұрын

Same, I loved this show, but continuing most likely would mean making the show worse and worse, so I think this ending is perfect

@peripatetic6356

Ай бұрын

They should make Tai Pan into a series

@tiberianexcalibur

Ай бұрын

I was just not satisfied with the quiet ending that did not feel like an ending.

@arbur4746

23 күн бұрын

i liked the beginning and the middle of it, but the story had no ending no real closure!!!!!

@joeyou2954

18 күн бұрын

Unless it's a prequel-sequel kind of situation lol

I think the finale is superb even without a huge battle scene. The title of the book is Shogun (将軍 which means general in Chinese) and the finale really shows us how brilliant Toranaga is as a general. He fought using clandestine and covert strategies. Almost Sun Tzu like. He said, he does not control the wind, only study it. He did that brilliantly as a military leader to a point that the final outcome of the battle was already decided.

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

Superb? The only thing Toranaga did throughout the series was kill his own people, friends and closest allies. He even admitted he burned Anjin's ship and will keep burning it solely for his own amusement. He is a complete nutcase psychopath! The enemy won in this show.

@oldnoobgamer90

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump You probably misunderstood. It's not about Toranaga from a moral standpoint. Rather, it's about the show portraying him as a masterful military leader employing Sun Tzu-like tactics in winning the war before the battle even begins. That's why it's superb because the series is about Toranaga becoming the Shogun.

@hermaeusmora1827

Ай бұрын

Chinese? Your basic Asian geography needs brushing uon

@oldnoobgamer90

Ай бұрын

@@hermaeusmora1827 将軍 is Japanese kanji characters taken from Chinese.

@SANESX

Ай бұрын

​@@hermaeusmora1827You know Japanese use Chinese alphabets right? He is not wrong.

Shogun was an amazing mini-series for Hulu. It was a well put together production and the characters were magnificent. I see possible Emmys in this show’s future.

@dmacleod3843

Ай бұрын

Shogun was not a Hulu show. It was produced and funded by FX. Hulu just showed it.

@Ter9393

Ай бұрын

The last episode was awful.

@mikkifarmer9626

Ай бұрын

@@dmacleod3843 I thought that Shogun was a Hulu original. My bad.

@rltw2753

Ай бұрын

@@mikkifarmer9626dmn right your bad … you’re a buffoon

@rltw2753

Ай бұрын

@@mikkifarmer9626dm right your bad .. you’re a buffoon

All I have to say is that I was crying when Toranaga stopped the Anjin from killing himself.. How quickly he got over there and popped him like Bruce Lee had me 💀🤣

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

Well he needs someone to torture, and that someone is Anjin. He burned his ship and admitted he'll keep burning it solely for his own amusement because he gets off on it. That's why he kept him alive. Toranaga is the greatest psychopath in Japan. He only killed his own people throughout the entire show and is enemy number 1.

@fruits050

Ай бұрын

man, that hit lol

@bradleye660

Ай бұрын

@SutterKrump The real John Blackthorne, William Adams, was made some sort of sea tradesman for Japan. He was not viewed as just a slave or barbarian by Toranaga. He was given a wife & a salary in Japan.

@sassymess7111

Ай бұрын

The actor/producer portraying Toranaga is also a martial artist. He also did his own stunt work.

There is another novel similar to Shogun that I hope to see one day adapted into a TV series called "Shike" by Robert Shea. I highly recommend it!

10:42 Toranaga is holding Mariko's cross as if it washed ashore, showing it could not be a dream and it made it's way back to John before he died.

@desnebula5699

Ай бұрын

Holy hell. Well spotted

@JackNthaCrack

Ай бұрын

What a spot bro, good job damn

@isessogroup

Ай бұрын

No he is NOT. There have ALWAYS been tassles that hang from the arms of his kimono. You can see them when he stands up while talking to Yabushige... John has had a dream of a life which he lets go permanently when decides to commit seppuku. Thats why they flash back to that dream and he restates what Mariko said "we live and we die" and he accepts he WONT die in England in a bed . He has in that moment accepted that his fate has changed...

@daneo617

Ай бұрын

​@@isessogroupnot really 😂

@isessogroup

Ай бұрын

@@daneo617 literally

"Shogun" emerges as a captivating journey into the heart of medieval Japan, showcasing valor, intrigue, and cultural richness with unparalleled finesse. The series not only transports viewers to a bygone era but immerses them in its intricacies, thanks to its meticulous attention to detail and historical accuracy. One of the standout features of "Shogun" is its breathtaking cinematography, which beautifully captures the essence of feudal Japan. From sweeping landscapes to intimate character moments, every frame is a visual feast that enhances the storytelling experience. As we revel in the triumph of "Shogun," one can't help but hope for more television shows to follow in its footsteps, striving for the same level of quality and dedication to storytelling. In an age of endless content, "Shogun" stands tall as a shining example of what television can achieve when excellence is the ONLY guiding principle.

@Cinephileofmany

Ай бұрын

Well said 👏🏻

@earphonez9297

Ай бұрын

Chatgpt spotted

@conanmccurry3392

14 күн бұрын

@@earphonez9297 an AI generated B2 level part 2 review.

I like the show as a whole. I was hooked the first 4 episodes. I kept hearing they are speed running through the story from the book readers. When I look back, they went to Osaka then left then went back then left. The traditions of the historic “japans” kept me engaged

I like that the story of "Shogun" is concluded. It was a really good series and I loved every episode. Star Wars, and Marvel have shown us, what it looks like. If you desperartly trying to keep a movie or tv-universe alive for the (money) fans. you get "The Book of Boba Fett", "Secret Invasion" and desasters alike. I rather remember "Shogun" fondly for what it was, than being heartbroken to see what it becomes after greedy studio executives decide on a second season.

@rltw2753

Ай бұрын

You a goofy there will be a season 2 start crying now

@Gubble-oq6dn

18 күн бұрын

Too bad, second season coming in

@bulletproof844

18 күн бұрын

I am critical of this, but if there is more material and the crew is coming back together, I’m in. It was just too good.😊

@dlxmarks

3 күн бұрын

"FX, Hulu and the Estate of James Clavell are working to extend the critically acclaimed global hit drama Shōgun, moving forward to develop the saga with two additional seasons of the drama series." FX/Hulu: "Let's soak this IP until it's no longer profitable." Clavell Estate: "We insist that you uphold the literary legacy of James Clavell. Or give us big bags of cash. Actually screw him, he's dead. Let's go with that second option."

@bulletproof844

2 күн бұрын

@@dlxmarks Let's hope this remains fiction,although it feels to real. :/

Absolutely the most memorable and magnificent mini-series since the original. The acting was beyond phenomenal. Thank you for the memories.

One of the finest series I have seen in years and years! 10/10

Loved, loved, loved Shogun. The intrigue and jockying, brilliant. The last 5 minutes brought everything to light, Toranaga's wry smile was the icing on the cake.

Oh, wow! I have seen your channel in a LONG time! Glad to be back. :)

Thank you for covering this show! I hv enjoyed watching your videos after each episode!

Also, I'm still fucking bawling at the tragic fate of John and Mariko's love.

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

How so? The only thing Mariko did was begging to commit suicide every single episode. Don't feel sorry for people who don't appreciate life.

@yuvinducaldera9612

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump So true. The japs really didn't learn this lesson till the end of WW2. What hell is the point of commiting suicide just to prove a point. I liked this show less and less as it progressed. Felt like it tried so hard to be sophisticated it ended up being pretentious.

@WBSGBS

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrumpyou don’t understand the Japanese culture at this time then.

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@WBSGBS i dont have a reason to understand it. I'm not Japanese

@WBSGBS

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump really odd that your interested in this show then

9/10 Ending. 1 point off cuz I wanted to see the cannons fire one last time and the start of the battle too. Not even a full episode dedicated to it, just a charge before the clash and that’s it. Imagine the Rohirrim and Gandalf’s glorious charge with the sun down to Helm’s Deep 😭

@dmacleod3843

Ай бұрын

Opposite ending grade from me. I gave the finale a 3/10. I read the original novel as well as watched the 1980 show, and while I thought the first 9 shows of this new series were outstanding, the last one just left me feeling disappointed based on what I have read and have already seen. I mean, the whole "dream sequence" diversion at the beginning did not appear in either the book or the 1980s show. Why not just bring the 1975 novel to life like Peter Jackson did with the "Lord of the Rings" series? After all, I don't want someone's additional "creative" intepretation or input on a beloved work, I just want some literary work to be brought to life. Why is that such a hard thing to understand? Watch the "Lord of the Rings" series or the awesome Granada "Sherlock Holmes" shows from the 1980s as proof as to what sticking to the source material can bring.

I didnt understand this show but rewatching it makes much more sense. 😂

@jonber9411

Ай бұрын

I think you are wasting your time. It just felt quite far fetched at most times

@divineflu34567

25 күн бұрын

​​@@jonber9411it did specially his puppeteering like many of the people were not needed for his asencion to Shogun.

I thought it was really perfect! But I wonder if Toronaga thought all was lost and still scheming until he got the letter from Ochiba

I liked both the book and first adaptation, so I was skeptical going into this series. But this rendition was so freaking good !!! The authenticity was 100%. I don't want a 'Season 2'.. I only wish they would've done Sekigahara battle scenes. Cast was prefect !!!

Why is no one commenting how good of a review this was. Thank you

the way it ended is perfect. as much as i would love to see more, i wholeheartedly respect them for not doing a season 2. such a great show!

@dlxmarks

3 күн бұрын

That would have been my preference as well but MONEY. "FX, Hulu and the Estate of James Clavell are working to extend the critically acclaimed global hit drama Shōgun, moving forward to develop the saga with two additional seasons of the drama series."

@amosvane

3 күн бұрын

@@dlxmarks yeah, my comment aged liked fine milk lol

What struck me the most about this final episode was how non-chalantly and without any ceremony Yabushige took out his blade and commited Seppuku. Hell, he wasn´t even kneeling! In the end, he did go as a Samurai though: he did not fear death.

thanks for the review

I hope there's a season 2 being prepared! :)

Watching the remake did motivate me to both rewatch the 1980 miniseries and reread the book, though.

Best ending explained video!

The dream scene with Blackthorne on his deathbed back in England makes no sense and does not advance the storyline. They would have been better to have kept in Mariko's funeral scene, but they keep changing things. This episode was better than the last, but if you want to watch a better Shogun series watch the one from the 80's with Chamberlain as Blackthorne. It was much better.

@samlanganke1262

Ай бұрын

It was good for 1980 and founded my interest for Japan then. But in retrospect it was way too "Hollywood". Blackthorne was the white adventure superstar which Chamberlain was in these days after doing the 1970s versions of Count of Monte Christo and Three Musketeers. But that is NOT John's role.

Shogun was good. I appreciate you for explaining everything in such details to understand completely

Only two TV shows have made me cry in the past year or so. Number one Better Call Saul and now Shogun.

Never watched the old version of Shogun. Love this one every second of it. Oscar worthy acting, in my humble opinion.

I never subscribe to the streaming platform and wait for any shows pirated version to watch . But i was so hyped by the show that i bought a 3 months subscription just to watch this show

Loved the show..wish they made the season longer and not rush through it

8:40 I love it when Yabushige said that. On earlier episode he said that cracking your head is much more lower than boiling to death, he also states that its not worse than being dogs eating your body. Edit: I don't think there is a need for season, its just the series ended in a hypothetical ending. I'd only 1-3 episode short for an actual ending for it

Perhaps when John says, Unless I win, it inspired Tokunaga to realise he took could do the impossible by winning, having felt defeated up till then. He did quote him after all at the end.

I love the writing, the costumes, the characters, no plot armor here. Really hope for a season 2 but I'm happy with just the first season!

Great series, one of the best in recent years. It will be hard to continue though.

The main cast and the show runner both said there will be no season 2.

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

So all we have to go on is this Toranaga's psychopathic vision about victory. We don't even know if his plan works. This master strategist only killed his own people not grazing a hair on his enemies' heads.

@PROVOCATEURSK

Ай бұрын

People lie and change their minds when money are involved. It would be foolish to not make season 2.

@instamoral2610

Ай бұрын

This was a mini series from the start. No season 2. ​@@PROVOCATEURSK

@SkLassi-en1ds

Ай бұрын

​@@SutterKrump average American comment

@kylelee6

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrumpWell, we already know Toranagas plan works because it’s based off real Japan history lol it becomes known as Battle of Sekigahara and Toranaga becomes Shogun after defeating Ishido

The show was a work of art. Fantastic and entertaining

this is the best show ive seen in a very long time

I can't unsee Vancouver in all the background terrain 😂

Ah, it's fantastic that they've based it on the book. Absolutely loving the visual explanation thanks man. Personally, I reckon one season's just perfect. If you ask me, I'd love to see Mariko and John tying the knot and living happily ever after in London, in my dream's dream. I wld break that loyalty to the master, her death was crazy to me.

I think the blurred portions specially on the bottom of the screen can be scene throughout the whole season, not just on the Blackthorne Dream scene

Of the Clavell books, Gai-Jin (Foreigner) is the only other one set exclusively in Japan, albeit 268 years later during the Meiji Restoration. The last Tokugawa/Toranaga shogun is a character in the book. That would be interesting to see made into a miniseries as "Season 2", though like other commenters I still think the 1980 version was better than this one.

Great show and really captures feudal Japanese life, customs and beliefs. Like an alien world to western customs!

Loved this show!

No season 2 is needed... this is just perfect as it is... ❤

I remember reading about the history of this period and remember of being disgusted with just how vile a person Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga in the show) was. So seeing this show portray him in such a positive light up till the very end was strange. Ieyasu reminds me so much of Octavian, almost like they were the same person reborn over a thousand years later into a different culture. I can't help but feel bad for Ishida Mitsunari who tried desperately to stay loyal and do his duty, only to fail at the end. That said, neither of them were likely very good people. Its just that one has more noble traits than the other, at least from what we are told.

Thought it was awesome....sad that its over.....it was very well done

💯 well explained

Best show I’ve watched in a long time. The finale took me by surprise, I was expected an all out war to end of the show but I get what Toranaga was planning all along. I just hate this show came to an end.

Didn’t they say they were only doing one season?

@desultorilypanacea

Ай бұрын

That's strange if they did say that. Because why didn't they say it was a limited series which is what you do in that situation.

Sad to see such a captivating Series end as it did whit no follow up season where it certainly could afford but no lets cut it on sort of a cliffhanger🤦 I have not read the book so dont know how that one end🤫

I believe blackthorn as an old man was real. If you look at the final shot of shogun, toranaga is holding a rosary as well. Indicating blackthorn was holding the rosary was given to him by toranaga when he finally let him go

@bradleye660

Ай бұрын

John Blackthorne (William Adam’s) never returned to England. It was absolutely just a dream, and not reality because that wouldn’t be a truthful ending. William Adams lived out the rest of his life in Japan. John saw what he would become if he held onto the loss of Mariko & returned to England, so he let go of the rosary in the lake to signify that he had let her go. He changed his fate. That was the whole point of showingJohn letting go of Mariko’s rosary.

Amazing show, that REALLY needed at least another season

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

What's amazing about it? All Toranaga did was murder his own people and burning ships. Clearly a paid infiltrator, unless the goal of a great leader is to ONLY kill his own people and not even touch his enemies.

@garysanders6091

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump do you typically judge shows based on rather you morally agree with every character on it? The show isn’t amazing because I trust toranaga to baby sit my kids. It’s amazing because of the plot, intrigue, characters, and themes.

@instamoral2610

Ай бұрын

​@@garysanders6091loll

@adamdavidsoddities8573

Ай бұрын

​@@SutterKrumpI recommend you never watch breaking bad

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@adamdavidsoddities8573 that was over 10 years ago. I can't unwatch it

Absolutely sublime❤❤❤

John is not the white saviour of the story like it we would of assumed at the start when Toranga said John, Mariko and John's fates were intertwinned. John did not change Japan nor was he crucial part of the grand design, just a jester for king Toranaga's amusement and a distraction for Toranaga's enemies.

@clumsyturtle8544

Ай бұрын

Yeah watchng the show I never felt John was the saviour type. The man since episoded one was swept up in Torunaga's games, living by the skin of his teeth and not really having any real power, most of the time he is a prisoner.

@bradleye660

Ай бұрын

We were really seeing the story through John’s eyes anyway.

@divineflu34567

25 күн бұрын

Truth he was a distraction but also served him much needed time to sped up thing's.

toranaga is holding the the japanese girls neckalace that anjin threw in the water in the very last scene of episode 10. You can see it at 10:42 of this video

We should get a series with toranaga from when he was a teen or just a sengoku jidai tv series

Incredible show

Knowing one month later the battle of Sekigahara would take place. Tokugawa Ieyasu was out numbered 75,000 to 120,000 and only lost about 4000 warriors compared to west that lost about 32,000. Therefore winning the war and becoming Shogun.

A season two would be weird. Almost every major character died. Excpet John, Torunaga, Omi, Buntaro and the Portuguese Catholics. I wouldn't be opposed to a season two, but it would be very bittersweet

I loved it!

Captivating series and engaging characters. Torunaga is charismatic and powerful. Mariko-sama is so captivating. She reminded me of Daenerys Targaryen. This series has a much better ending than Game of Thrones. It's much better overall. I wish there would be season 2.

Yabushige was a great character, love how there's no rightgeous party, all of them human. I wasn't rooting for anyone, just enjoying a delightful drama.

It stayed true to the book, at most. Everyone just wanted a big battle scene. Even myself 😆.

Having watched the original series in 1980 and having read the book prior to that, I was not especially impressed with the 2024 version. So much was changed without any real purpose. The conflict between Blackthorne and Father Alvito, the relationship between Blackthorne and Rodrigues, the fact that Blackthorne was a highly educated man who rapidly became fluent in Japanese (the character was a polyglot: fluent in English, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, and Latin), the dynamics of the relationships between Obi, Yabu, Kiku, and Blackthorne (Kiku eventually became Anjin's wife much to Obi's dismay). It was Obi who stopped Blackthorne from killing himself over the threat to Anjiro based on an order from Yabu. Even the Buntaro archery scene was dumbed down. The rescue of Yabu after his being washed overboard was completely changed for no apparent reason. It was just a jarring experience for someone who read and loved the book.

@peterbryantorres7096

Ай бұрын

I AGREE 100%! It was so disappointing that I’m having PTSD - why did they turn Blackthorn into such a buffoon? They completely ruined the scene where he attempts to commit Seppuku which was such a pivotal moment in the novel and so beautifully written. It was the moment he had a breakthrough and claimed his fate-and took it into his own hands. What a disappointment this series was.

@Teefs143

Ай бұрын

Did he really throw the cross to the sea? Or it was a dream?

@rickbruner5525

Ай бұрын

@@Teefs143 Since it was not something from the book, I suppose you would have to ask the writers. There was no dream sequence in the book either.

@TP-pq9xx

Ай бұрын

@@peterbryantorres7096 They showed Blackthorne being able to become fluent in Japanese over a short time and they emphasized that he was a skilled pilot. And then they made it clear that he was ashamed of the way his crewmates behaved, they portrayed him as a man with honor and values that were way above his average peers. They showed him being polite and respectful, even to prostitutes. They showed him in anguish and wracked in guilt over the death of some random, unimportant villager. To me Blackthorne was unrealistically intelligent and virtuous almost to the point of comedy but you found him to be a buffoon....interesting.

@peterbryantorres7096

4 күн бұрын

It’s so interesting how many people have different perspectives. I found him a buffoon and not true to the original character in the novel-yet you found so much more depth in his character. Did you read the novel? I’m wondering, if you did, if you found Blackthorne identical to the actor’s portrayal.

Not only is there a season 2, there is a season 3 as well!

I thought for a season second, it will focus on Blackthorn rebuilding his ship until the conflict comes.

When is the new AHS Delicate review

One important thing : Toranaga is behind the the burning of the ship. He promises to punish the "traitors" who did this, those being the townspeople. He doesn't care ultimately if Anjin lives or dies, or if he has to kill more townspeople in the search of the "traitors". What he cares about is Anjin's attachment to the people, to Japan and more importantly to Toranaga himself. That's all he wants to see, so when Anjin says take my life but spare the townspeople...he knows he's won, against Anjin. He knows Anjin cares. He knows that Anjin doesn't think the people are all "stupid". Toranaga has a vassal...

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

And he admitted he'll burn his ship again once rebuilt. He's the biggest psychopath in the show and is enemy number 1.

@mikenunz

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump Yup. The whole premise is about what people are willing to do get what they want, and what people are willing to risk to do so. Underlying is the Japanese sense of duty and honor and they conflict with the 1st point. There will be sacrifice, but people do so honorbound. The older general, forget his name, he knew there was a strategy. He didn't know Toranaga's specific strategy, but he knew the end goal and he was honorbound to accept his death was necessary to the goal. Mariko the same. She knew she was a pawn in a larger scheme, but her honor demanded she sacrifice herself to the plan. The ends justify the means. Really deep, well done, enjoyed the show immensely l!

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@mikenunz duty and honor... By murdering your own people not grazing a hair on your enemy's head. I call bullshit and this is a made up fictional story. Also, there's no evidence his "master plan" even worked because there's no season 2 yet and the flash forward we saw was only a vision in this twisted psychopath's head. A "leader" like Toranaga would've been taken out immediately

@SutterKrump

Ай бұрын

@@mikenunz how do you know he got what he wanted when the battle between him and Ishido hasn't happened yet? Toranaga spent this whole season killing his own people. I was under the impression you were supposed to kill your enemies, but Toranaga does the opposite.

@mikenunz

Ай бұрын

@@SutterKrump Well, since it's based on historical events, we know Tokugawa (Toranaga) wins the Battle of Sekigehara. But within the framework of the book itself, truthfully the outcome of the battle itself is irrelevant. This is because Toranaga's plans and schemes, how he used people, etc were all about getting a battle at all. That's it. He doesn't become Shogun without a battle. He doesn't get a battle without a plan. This part of the story is about The Plan, not the battle.

Adaptation of Gai-Jin by James Clavell could be a fitting sequel for Shogun

I want season 2 to be “bruh, where’s my samurai sword?”

this series was masterpiece

Toronaga is the Ayanokoji of Feudal Japan 😊

This is the moment Toranaga truly became Heishogunberg. Sasuga, Vince-dono.

Ok so there won’t be a second series, but how about a movie of the battle of sekigahara using all the same actors? Basically anyone who watched shogun would defo watch that.

loved it great finale

I loved the series and hope it gets a 2nd season!

@Puncherjoe1

Ай бұрын

It was a one and done.

@cain7925

Ай бұрын

no, it was already stretch enough

The Art of War indeed

This show was brilliant.

I'm shocked people were disappointed. Got season 1 didn't have huge battles. But what made season 1 amazing was political intrigue and character development. So many characters died I expected to live. The reveal he has been wanting to be shogun the whole time. Just all of it I loved. I feel like if you had a some huge end game war people would still hate it. And they tell you where and what will happen. Ishido is going to lose. He won't have the support for the regents due to oshiba aligning with Toranaga. It was a giant chess match. And I loved it. Tho I really would have liked a season 2.

@dmacleod3843

Ай бұрын

Perhaps you wouldn't be so shocked if you had read the novel or had seen the original 1980s adaptation. Maybe then you would understand why some people didn't view the finale of this 2024 show as the Second Coming of Christ. As much as I admired this new version, the last show was disappointing and left many people feeling unfulfilled (and count me in as one of them). I think they dropped the ball on this one.

@comegetsome7724

Ай бұрын

@@dmacleod3843 your opinion noted - and now intend on reading the novel. I did see the original, but not with weekly anticipation as this one. as good as he was, he was still 'dr kildair' to me. thanks for your input.

@divineflu34567

25 күн бұрын

I also feel there had been some people who were not needed for his asencion.

I have been waiting since like episode 4 or 5, for the big ol hammer to drop on a HUGE reveal/twist, of Toranaga talking alone with John, and BOOM, hitting us with English and that he's been fluent in it this whole time Full disclosure, only vaguely remembered that this was even a book, had less than 0 clue this was a miniseries in 1980 or whenever lt was lolol

@hy.1025

Ай бұрын

lol bro thinks exactly the same as me. i always think of characters in the series have a twist and speak englsh lollllll

Sometimes duty is the death of love 😢

Why do some media referred to Shogun as " Season 1"? Season 1 implies there's Season 2, etc...when we all know, it's just a mini'series or limited series.

While I knew that this series would not be able to do the book justice, a few more episodes would have been able to resolve things. Although I can understand not having the battle, just having Toranaga explain himself on a cliffside is just weak. The series has masterfully brought to life fuedal Japan along with its intrigues and violence. The finale was like watching an enormous carnival ride grind to a halt. The power/funding was cut and the producers had to wind it up before it stopped altogether and left too many threads up in the air.

The Lord Torenaga actor is the same guy who was the manager of the Osaka Continental Hotel in the John Wick movies. There was sword fighting in that forth John Wick movie too. 😮

I cant wait for them to show the battle of sekigahara in season 2, that scene just made me lose my shit. also if they show Date Masamune being played by Ken Watanabe, I'm going to be hyped

I manned the rails of a ship in Shimano, during the Black Ship festival. Never really understood it, 'till now. Shogun got me interested and I am sad to see the miniseries' ending. Someone should continue the Barbarian's story... Even if, partly historical.

Shogun is a brilliant masterpiece...enough said

season 2 is possible if they utilize william adams(the real life inspiration to john blackthorne) full story which continues even after shogun ends

I don’t want a new season - but it would be cool if we get a movie based on Sekigahara.

Lol, your pronunciation of Japanese words and names is hilarious, Maeriko and shoguhn are priceless. Lmao.