So, if he's an actual minister, he KNOWS he lies to his flock. What a great man.

@CyberBeep_kenshi

3 ай бұрын

for the tax evasion

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

It's horrible how atheistic cult leaders get some people to become unwilling to undertaker God as true. The rejection of God leads to not only a horrific existence for these atheists but the destruction of the country that they're in. Like the atheist humanist cult members pushing the satanic rituals mutilating and cross-dressing children.

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

​@@CyberBeep_kenshitax evasion? Oh you mean like atheistic LGBT organizations.

"It's not a religion, it's a relationship." Why would anyone want a relationship with someone who threatened them with torture if they turned it down?

@Mewse1203

3 ай бұрын

For the same reason, anybody's in a toxic abuse relationship, which is what it is.

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

Because of the promise that they'll live forever, why they would want is a puzzle to me.

@garyskinner2422

3 ай бұрын

I tend to just say to them,I have a relationship with reality

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

You put yourself in hell when you refuse to be saved from hell. Adam & your sin already doomed you. God is just throwing you a life line & you're too stupid to take it.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 I don't blame Adam, I blame the talking snake who convinced Eve to eat an apple from a forbidden tree. But it's okay, I can just send a telepathic message to a Jewish ghost to say that I accept him as my master and then I can be freed from the curse of the talking snake/forbidden apple/easily led woman, at least until I do a naughty thing again. Or I could follow a religion where there is no hell. Or I could continue to accept that all religions are peddling falsehoods and if there is a god, it isn't concerned about the day to day indiscretions of organisms like me. I'll take the latter.

Who wouldn’t get upset , when you threaten someone with eternal torture for not accepting your nonsense BS.?

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

Jesus loves you is incredibly hateful. Because the missing line after that is, "and if you don't love him back, you'll pay for it."

@mjc8281

3 ай бұрын

Personally I don't get upset, I don't see evidence for a god, much less a Christian god.... If someone wants to threaten me with eternal torture from something I see no evidence for, it is a pretty empty threat.

@vertigo4236

3 ай бұрын

@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp And not only that! You are an unredeemable sinner first! You are full of evil, thanks to the fall of man. There is NOTHING loving in maken you pay for your forefathers deeds!

@vertigo4236

3 ай бұрын

@@mjc8281 It's dehumanisation, the threat of hell means that you are deserving it, that you ARE evil. So the whole thing was often enough in history, the justification for violence, murder and genocide.

@uncleanunicorn4571

3 ай бұрын

​@mjc8281 Like telling me i'm gonna get on santa's bad list and he's going to send elves to attack me.

Mark, constantly: "Yep. I'm with you. Absolutely. You're right, 100%." Also Mark: [fundamentally disagrees with everything they are saying]

@linrepboras

3 ай бұрын

Good comment: Spontaniously he might come out as sympathetic but (as you pinpoint) there's a two-faced approach against atheism where he agrees and reaches for sympathies but as the discussion progresses tries to pinpoint logical errors (acc. to him) in the atheist position.

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

@@linrepboras It's called the 'Yes, Minister' defense. Go and watch a few episodes. This caller is very well versed in the technique.

@linrepboras

3 ай бұрын

@@Chris-hx3om Familiar with both "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, prime Minister" (Quality British comedy as so much else) and you are correct, schooled by Sir Humphrey i assume.

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

​@@linrepborasatheism is an illogical position. It's a disbelief or lack of in God or gods it's an unwillingness to undertake God is true. No quality of evidence can convince someone of something they don't have the willingness or ability to accept as true

@barnacleboi2595

3 ай бұрын

@@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru I think you're projecting the trademark theist mindset of believing in one thing regardless of coming across evidence that contradicts that belief. Most of the atheists I talk to, including myself, are completely open to believing in any and all gods as long as there is verifiable, reasonable and repeatable evidence that backs it up. I mean, I don't know about you but the fact of having an eternal, omnipotent entity that took the time out of it's day to create me and also loves me unconditionally and would want me to have a happy and fulfilling life...that sounds absolutely amazing and I'm pretty sure most people would be on board with that. The problem with that idea is if its actually true, and as I'm sure you are aware, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If I'm going to subscribe to that idea, upend everything I've known for years including rational thought...I'm going to make damn sure that what I'm getting into is absolutely correct and I will not leave any stone unturned. When I do that, I usually end up making the same conclusion with every religion, that it is an appeal to our emotions and deepest desires while abandoning reality.

I love the pause when they ask “why should I care what the gospel says?” It’s like he never considered the possibility that you SHOULDN’T care what the gospels say.

@kriss3d

3 ай бұрын

And you just KNOW that after a bit circling around the draing its "Well because the bible is the word of god. The bible says so".

Right! Exactly! Absolutely! That so true! So why are you saying that to them when you fundamentally disagree?

@CyberBeep_kenshi

3 ай бұрын

Fake listening. And since his job is to listen to people, he is really bad at it...

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

It's a common technique used by con-men (and politicians)...

My God, this whole thing between saying "Yeah, Absolutely, Yes" etc. is driving me crazy.

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

Typical tactic of con-men...

The only thing all atheists have in common is we don't believe there is a god. That could be literally all we agree on, there is no belief system.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

The only thing all theists have in common is that they think they have a creator despite most theists belonging to one of the many tribal group religions.

@Gpcavana819

3 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@somersetcace1

3 ай бұрын

I disagree! 😏😏 Just kidding! Well said.

@gordon3186

3 ай бұрын

R[ght. But saying I don't believe in gods is different than believing that there aren't gods.

@AzathothTheTrueGod

3 ай бұрын

@@gordon3186True but you could disprove both by demonstrating a god. Theists know they can’t so they have to deflect the burden of proof and rely on emotions.

Mark, I don't believe your god exists just as you don't believe that other god exists. That is it.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Ah. Another genius in the mix. If you're dumb enough to think that this tiny DYING universe is all there is with your tiny 5 senses as the only tool to discern true reality, WHEN THIS UNIVERSE OBVIOUSLY HAD A BEGINNING; THUS, A BEGINNER, then you deserve "punishment" for being so stupid and dispassionate to the extent TO NOT DO THE PROPER RESEARCH TO KNOW THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@joedennehy386

3 ай бұрын

Richard Dawkins famously said to a young earth Christian , do you believe in Wotan, Zuess, Buddha, Allah, Mercury? " of course not" said the Christian, I don't believe in any of those, " Nor do I said Dawkins, I just go one more".

@CyberBeep_kenshi

3 ай бұрын

yup, as simple as that. and theists try to make it more complicated, to create doubt

@MrCanis4

3 ай бұрын

@@CyberBeep_kenshi Yep, they always have this disagreement with Atheists but rarely talk about people who believe in other gods. Why would that be? To have to realize how stupid their arguments might be?

@CyberBeep_kenshi

3 ай бұрын

@@MrCanis4 i had a fascinating discussion once where they got compared to drugs junkies. Junkies tend to group together and feed each other the excuses to do drugs. and isolate from non users. indeed i agree with you, its probably because deep down they realise its nonsense

I did not suffer anything negative that made me an atheist. I grew up in a very religious family, and I was trending towards being a religious fanatic. If monks had got hold of me, I am sure that today I would be in a monastery praying my ass off. But I spent over four decades talking to clergy of all religions, read the bible thoroughly, did a heck of a lot of investigating and eventually realized I had nothing to latch onto, and eventually was forced to realize I was an atheist. So this person who suggest that atheists had a negative experience from religion is full of bullcrap and reveals ignorance from living in an echo chamber.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

I grew up in a religious family and felt a sense of rejection if I didn't believe so I was afraid to tell them. Religion is about submitting to a "tribal" group which uses social pressure to get conformity. This preacher is deluding himself when he thinks his personal experience of committing to the group identity is somehow special and not a religion.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Ah. Another genius in the mix. If you're dumb enough to think that this tiny DYING universe is all there is with your tiny 5 senses as the only tool to discern true reality, WHEN THIS UNIVERSE OBVIOUSLY HAD A BEGINNING; THUS, A BEGINNER, then you deserve "punishment" for being so stupid and dispassionate to the extent TO NOT DO THE PROPER RESEARCH TO KNOW THESE THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@@bobs182 Imagine what goes on in these people’s heads. It’s amazing to me how people can believe these religious stories that play over and over in their imaginations. It’s mental illness. How do they function in the real world? The depth of their delusions and the grip it has on their mind is terrifying. I just hope they have someone caring for their well-being.

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

I grow up in a family that didn't practise any religion. I don't believe in any god because I haven't see sufficient evidence. I'm an 'anti-theist' because, for me, I have seen sufficient evidence to draw a conclusion that there is no god.

My atheist agenda is to stop religious people inflicting their agenda on me, particularly where it related to laws and government.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

3 ай бұрын

We can also make responsible taxpayers of religious businesses, self-funding groups, and churches!

@Beerglass1980

2 ай бұрын

Agree 💯

Mark is the sort of believer that I could actually enjoy yakking with for a while. He lost me for a few seconds when he mentioned 'choose to believe'. I can't recall one instance in my 78 years that I chose to believe ANYthing. My own experience was being raised in an Evangelical environment. From about 8 years old, I KNEW I was doomed to eternal torture because of the crush I had on a boy in my class. The anxiety attacks began right about then. S**cidal ideation hung over me well into my early 30s, even though I was born again, again, out of that lunacy in my late teens. My little brother used to get off on debating my dad's pastor. One exchange went something like this: Bro: What about the millions (billions, since the dawn of humanity) that have never, and will never hear your 'gospel'? Preachboi: They are not damned, since they haven't been given the word on Earth. Bro: Then WHY in HELL are you sending missionaries to preach this stuff to them? I was so proud of my little bro.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG & LOST. Your little brother & your dads Pastor are both wrong also. First of all, God is the PERFECT JUDGE and is FULL ABLE to judge his creation in a just manner WITHOUT YOUR HELP OR CONCERN. Secondly, it's none of your business. Thirdly, you need to be concerned about your own soul regarding your soon coming "Judgement Day." Fourthly, we are COMMANDED to preach the gospel to the lost. Your ignorance annoys me.

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

So why are there so many atheists in western civilization that believe in faith that somebody can be born with a brain of a different gender in their body. They believe it's so much in faith that they would mutilate and crossdress their children.. if it's not because they chose to believe this in faith is there such a huge representation for atheist believing in transgenderism more than any other group. Why is it so many atheist compared to the rest of society believe in faith that their ancestors were sea creatures. and that we have different races of people because of environmental reasons like weather diet and natural selection. Even when you explain to them a more logical explanation to why we have different races and it seems like they understand it's a more logical explanation they still ignore it and choose to believe that we have different races because of environmental reasons like weather diet and natural selection. Atheist Communists are always claiming that almost everything we do and say is a result of culture with the exception of course of homosexuality and transgenderism certainly choose transgenderism . There's no physical evidence somebody being born homosexual and or transgender but there is proof that people choose to be homosexual end transgender because of cultural reasons. Atheism itself is a disbelief which means it's an unwillingness or ability to accept God. So if somebody is unwilling to accept God they're choosing not to believe in God it's a conscious effort not to believe in God

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

As far as your little bro, the Bible shows us that even those who don't hear the gospel are held responsible because God gives everybody the ability to choose good and evil.

@Polyphemus47

3 ай бұрын

@@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru Scripture? But, to be clear, I'm an atheist, and don't buy any of it. PLEASE don't use that 'You'll find out' bit on me. I know I will. But, not.

@chrissonofpear1384

3 ай бұрын

@@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru Well, there's a problem there, as it were, Ashley... Because the thing is: I can tell good, from evil. And I can choose, good, from evil. And I also see - much, of what is said, about Jehovah... to be evil. And to be a being... who does, and chooses, and enacts... evil. Including in ghastly 2 Samuel 24. Which many would call... entrapment. Or f*-81ng gaslighting, say. As is a certain Leviticus 25:46, moreover, too. Something that a 'relationship' hasn't really cleared up, adequately, either.

Theist: my best friend is going to set you on fire if you don't love him. Hey hey hey why so aggressive?!

Just so you know, I've summoned a demon to this page to scare off the loony God-squad trolls. It should be here in an hour at the latest, depending on traffic.

As an atheist, my « agenda » is to believe more true things than false things…so I examine claims..all claims..and look for credible evidence and apply the same standard to all claims., whatever they may be.

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

I'm not saying I don't believe you but I've heard a lot of atheists say the same thing until I found out the things they actually believe. If you don't mind can you use a rational definition to define a man. Do you believe that your ancestors were sea creatures that walked on water. Do you believe we have different races because of environmental reasons like weather diet and natural selection.

@garyskinner2422

3 ай бұрын

That's more a skeptical outlook,which ofc can go hand in hand with atheism.

@quentind1924

3 ай бұрын

@@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru "Do you believe that your ancestors were sea creatures that walked on water." Walked on water no because i've nver heard that anywhere (and note that some animals can walk on water so it's not as absurd than what you were hoping, and note that you do believe that Jesus did walk on water so it's funny that you brought it here), sea creatures yes because that's the best theory we have today "Do you believe we have different races because of environmental reasons like weather diet and natural selection." I'm guessing you're trying to talk about different animals ans not specifically races, but if you look on google at evidences for evolution, you'll see it makes sense we consider this theory to be true. And also, if god made the earth for humans, why did he also bother to make turkeys or platypus and so many different animals, with also many different types of monkeys, felines,... that are all kinda looking similar but different ? Evolution explains it with a "recent" common ancester (much more recent than for animals that looks completely different, but still pretty old), while i'm pretty sure god never explained why he bother doing that (having so many different animals, with many different types of monkeys, dogs, cat or felines in general) in the bible but tell me if i'm wrong

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

@@quentind1924 You never supplied a rational definition for man and woman. Also when I said do you believe WE have different races because of environmental reasons like whether the natural selection I was talking about people. As far as the other question it was supposed to say do you believe your ancestors were lizards that walked on water. But that was my mistake so I'll just ask you do you believe your ancestors were sea creatures. Remember I'm not asking you what you believe a random scientists May believe I'm asking you what you believe is true .

@quentind1924

3 ай бұрын

​@@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru "You never supplied a rational definition for man and woman." Oops i completely missed that it was a question. I'm not sure if you're trying to ask me to explain how we have man and woman without god, what's the difference between both or what is a man (or even something else) so i can't answer your question right now "Also when I said do you believe WE have different races because of environmental reasons like whether the natural selection I was talking about people." For that too i'm still unsure what you're asking me to say... Is it asking me to explain why we don't look all the same ? Why americans looks different than africans or indians ? "Do you believe your ancestors were lizards that walked on water ?" (not your exact quote, but that was the question you wanted to ask) I don't know what all of my ancesters looked like, i'm gonna guess no but maybe that's wrong because i just don't know enough about that exact topic "Remember I'm not asking you what you believe a random scientists May believe I'm asking you what you believe is true ." The thing is, science isn't that. People give theories to explain stuff and give predictions to test those theories, and if we have enough evidence (and that the predictions made by that theory works) then it's now part of science until we have an even better theory that explains it better than the old one and give predictions the old theory didn't. And i'm almost sure that it's the case for what our ancesters were. So when you ask things about science, you should almost never ask someone what they think but rather what's the knowledge we have about that topic. Science isn't based on opinions, it's based around facts we can observe and then inducing general rules when we can find them, and most importantly : trying to find counter-examples to disprove those theories to make a better theory that could also explain those counter-examples

I noted that the hosts called Mark out for his ad-polulum argument, and he immediately switched to “ah but not everyone who says that are a Christian…” so a No True Scotsman was almost smuggled in there as well.

@georgevcelar

3 ай бұрын

It's just as bad as the argument from authority fallacy. I've been accused many times as not being a true Christian simply because I want to hear from an actual atheist myself their point of view, without judgment or condemnation. I fail to understand why I'm expected to wish bad things for someone who does not share my belief.

yup. Hell threats are Like telling me i'm going to get on santa's bad list and he's going to send elves to attack me.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

Wait - it used to be that getting put on Santa's naughty list just meant you wouldn't get any Xmas pressies. Now he sends his elves out to attack us? I'm scared 😮

@Leith_Crowther

3 ай бұрын

Even though I know I’m not going to hell, I still take the intended threat for the rudeness that it is.

@uncleanunicorn4571

3 ай бұрын

@@HamptonDoubledayJr Most religions are full of contradictions anyway.

A little rule of thumb - if you have a relationship with someone it's nice if that person actually exists.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

Also a bonus if they don't keep threatening to throw you in a lake of fire for not giving them enough attention.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

@@HamptonDoubledayJr Also key is not using their imaginary person to justify being a horrible person, especially in how they treat vulnerable, minimalized populations.

@cwallcw

3 ай бұрын

Esp if u want to play thumb wars.

Ministers are nearly always completely disingenuous with their approach. They present themselves as curious or trying to understand yet it’s clear they have zero interest in genuinely listening. Instead they desire to speak at people and then attempt covert them. It’s says a lot about their true character.

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

It's because they are con men and fraudsters who don't actually believe what they are trying to convince others to believe.

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

Excerpt from “Basic Biblical Beliefs Lacking Among Most Pastors in All U.S. Denominations, All Church Roles” by tracymunsil | Aug 30, 2022 Arizona Christian University New research shows a stunning lack of basic biblical beliefs among Christian pastors across all U.S. denominations, according to veteran researcher George Barna and the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University. An earlier report from the American Worldview Inventory 2022 showed that just 37% of Christian pastors have a biblical worldview, with the predominant worldview among pastors (62%) being syncretism, a hybrid mixture of disparate worldview elements blended into a customized philosophy of life. According to this latest report, the widespread absence of biblical worldview among American pastors is resulting in eroding beliefs in areas as basic as salvation through Jesus Christ, the nature of God, the sinful condition of human beings, and the existence of objective truth. As Barna notes, “Our survey demonstrates that large numbers of pastors have abandoned even the most basic and hallowed biblical teachings for ideas that now permeate our culture.” And this has enormous negative consequences for American Christianity, according to Barna. “Because pastors teach what they believe, many churches are becoming centers of syncretism and secular thought,” he said. “Perhaps without even realizing it, thousands of pastors have become leaders of a movement away from God.” “With so many churches and their pastors in the culture’s grip, rather than fervently committed to serving God and teaching His word,” Barna explained, “you can clearly see why most church-going Christians are being more influenced by the culture than the culture is being influenced by America’s Christians.” Now, off topic.. Funny how NEP whines about no support for evolution when: The Clergy Letter Project is a project that maintains statements in support of the teaching of evolution and collects signatures in support of letters from American Christian, Jewish, Unitarian Universalist, Buddhist, and Humanist clergy. The letters make reference to points raised by intelligent design proponents. There are five separate letters: A Christian Clergy Letter, a Rabbi Letter, a Unitarian Universalist Clergy Letter, a Buddhist Clergy Letter, and a Humanist Clergy Letter. As of October, 2022, there were 15,679 signatures from Christian clergy, 839 signatures from Jewish rabbis, 688 signatures from Unitarian Universalist clergy, 75 signatures from Buddhist clergy, and 58 signatures from Humanist clergy. The Clergy Letter Project states that Religion and Science Weekend activities are "an opportunity for serious discussion and reflection on the relationship between religion and science" and in an effort "to elevate the quality of the discussion on this critical topic, and to show that religion and science are not adversaries." The project states that events are specifically intended to emphasize that "Religious people from many diverse faith traditions and locations around the world understand that evolution is quite simply sound science; and for them, it does not in any way threaten, demean, or diminish their faith in God. In fact, for many, the wonders of science often enhance and deepen their awe and gratitude towards God."

@ziploc2000

3 ай бұрын

It's hard to convince someone of the truth when their income depends on not accepting it.

I cant wait for the future atheist experience episodes arguing with potterheads that voldemorts not real.

Marks "proof" is only in his head. 😵‍💫

@tosuchino6465

3 ай бұрын

So true. And I like the double quotes around the word proof. Proof is something that definitively shows to others that a claim is true or false. If a "proof" shows the veracity of a claim only to oneself, it's not proof.

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

And it's the only thing in there. Certainly no brain!

I would like to make a suggestion, that instead of referring to the brain washing children, as indoctrination, that you should address it in terms the religious seem to wish to avoid, and call it what it is,grooming.

@Leith_Crowther

3 ай бұрын

These days “grooming” usually has a very specific, sexual, and criminal implication. Or if you really want to use it in the broader sense, then it’s not actually a bad thing because you can “groom” someone for good things, like a company grooming an employee for a big promotion.

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

3 ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther But aren't priests around the world grooming children before they're diddling them?

@Gpcavana819

3 ай бұрын

Bingo!

@Chris-hx3om

3 ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther No, I like it referred to as 'grooming', and it's on the darker side that's more appropriate... And yes, many times religious authorities ARE grooming children for VERY dark purposes!

@MeTooAshleyBiden-xi7ru

3 ай бұрын

It depends on what you mean by grooming but if you mean a parent is preparing their child to live a morally just life there's nothing wrong with that. If you're talking about grooming children in the atheistic way where they sexualize children and do things like crossdress little boys there is something wrong with that. If you're pushing books on 5-year-olds in the public schools like the joy of fellatio between two homosexual men you're grooming them into sexual perversion and that's not a good moral thing to do.

My atheist agenda: achieving peace from god-botherers and feeling secure in the continuance of my and others' civil rights.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

3 ай бұрын

👍🍻

@ig4299

2 ай бұрын

Einverstanden. Grüße aus Deutschland. 🤘

Funny thing how a relationship with Jesus Christ requires you to do all the things that would be required of you if you were in a religion.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

Some Christians are trying to distance themselves from the word religion since so many bad things have been done by religions. This is just another convoluted idea by Christians.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Not even close. Religion is the enemy of God. You're too dumb to be here.

@tekbarrier

3 ай бұрын

So true 😂

self delusion is strong with one

@PomPom123Boo

3 ай бұрын

With one what?

Well, my evil atheist agenda today is: Work Errands Chores Play a couple games with friends Sleep

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

Mine was similar but between chores and games I managed to squeeze in a goat sacrifice.

@sgtsnokeem1139

3 ай бұрын

Same here but add bourbon.

@zoggdawg8141

3 ай бұрын

Huh, looks like there IS an evil atheist agenda after all! LOL

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

You're wasting the +/- 70 yrs you were created for: To accept or deny Jesus Christ. Nothing else matters.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 "You're wasting the +/- 70 yrs you were created for: To accept or deny Jesus Christ. Nothing else matters." Ha, this oxygen thief thinks WE'RE wasting time! To accept or deny Jesus Christ. Nothing else matters... except maybe being a tedious prick on social media thinking being a pest will somehow convince atheists to reconsider. Bwahahahahaa.

I know people who feel unlimited bliss in the undeniable ever-present existence of Krishna. Mindset is everything

12:30 Ummmm...No. If proving your parents' existence is as challenging as proving your God's existence, then we might need a reality show called "The Existence Challenge" just to sort things out.

@brucebaker810

3 ай бұрын

Maury: Y_W_H, you are NOT the father! But Lucifer tho? After the break, we check HIS results...

This is simply projection 101. Apply my faults to everyone else so that i don't seem so bad.

Mark is trying to understand how to argue with atheists but like he said, his belief is an emotional thing (it's a relationship). What he doesn't understand is that it affects how you see things. One channel I watch is called Mindshift and I think that's a great word to describe it. Losing my religion didn't improve my situation in life at all but it allowed me to understand so much about what I was exposed to and what I should have done differently.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

Since religions are starting to get a bad name, many Christians are pretending their personal god belief is something other than a religion. Just another convoluted Christian delusion.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

AGAIN, converted atheist? What is that, exactly? Does that just mean that you give up on thinking? Because the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. This channel should be SHUT DOWN, because NONE of these hosts have any answers either. IF YOU NOTICE they just sit there throwing rocks at the truth. They NEVER LEAD the conversation stating facts and why? Because they can't. The cult of atheism has no FACTUAL BASIS at all. NOTHING they believe in is OBSERVABLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution). You people are soooooooooo naively deceived; it's like you welcome it.

I must have missed the memorandum, have we changed the agenda? Apparently I'm an "inner circle" atheist, surely I should have been informed? 😂

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

I guess I haven’t gotten the email either.

My agenda: Church music sux! And the activities are boring as hell. 1 out of 5 ⭐s- Don't waste your money. And a good Tuesday Morning 🌞 AXP, Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

It is important for slow learners to keep coming every time the church doors are open to receive their continued indoctrination.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

My first reply disappeared. I think maybe because it thought it included a phone number.😂 I had said that a lot of the new evangelical church music are just pop rock songs about girls where they change the name of the girl to god or Jesus. Here's one: Jesus, Jesus who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to I know you'll think I'm like the others before Who saw your name and number on the wall Jesus, I've got your number I need to make you mine Jesus, don't change your number Eight six seven five three ohh niiiine

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee Knock knock. "Who is it?" "It's me, Jesus. Let me in." "Why do you want in?" " “I want to save you." "Save me from what?" "From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in”

Does not believing in the Easter Bunny also mean I have an agenda?

I love don baker!!!

@raygowan1968

3 ай бұрын

I loved his "Failure" series.

This caller is WELL versed in 'persuasive techniques'. I think he's watched a lot of 'Yes, Minister' episodes. One of them had Humphrey explaining to the minister how to use a person's own argument against them, and AGREEING with the person is the first step. That's exactly what he's doing. Every time one of the hosts points something out, he IMMEDIATELY agrees with it, then goes on to point out why it's wrong.... I would not trust this caller as far as I could throw them!!!!!

Apparently Neverending Fraud's God is not omnipotent! There are things he cannot do.

The caller knows for a fact he can’t demonstrate his god so he has to attack the only group of people who call it out. If that wasn’t the case he’d just prove his god exists. Meanwhile he projects an “agenda” onto us while his is to force belief or as Jesus said “slay the nonbelievers” because every knee must bend, and every head must bow. Pure evil.

@volkhane

3 ай бұрын

Did you... Watch the video? I didn't see a while lotta pure evil attacking going on... And the 'agenda' thing is just a one time language thing. He never really pushes it, and is overall just a bit unsure of what specific words to use to communicate, agenda being one of his less successful attempts.

@AzathothTheTrueGod

3 ай бұрын

@@volkhane No the demand that everyone must believe or burn. That’s evil, not this guy. I worded it badly. Apologies.

@Larry Craddock - There are 45,000 denominations of Christianity around the world (including 200 in the US alone). So tell us again about how amazingly united you guys are? 🤔

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

Larry's reply on the original thread: "Ephesians chapter 4 verses 5-13 says that there is only One faith, one Lord, and one Baptism. Not 45,000. Once again you have proven your lack of understanding" 🤦‍♂💩😂

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

What matters is if you're "born again" and you're serving God with your life. The rest really isn't important. Don't try to debate me; I'm an expert Christian, while you're totally lost & clueless in the very worst way.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

It looks like NEPy has finally accepted that he can't debate anyone because he loses all the time. He's so afraid that he would be challenged to get on my live stream, he just says that he won't debate anyone.😂😂😂

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 "Don't try to debate me; I'm an expert Christian..." An expert Christian? Surely there's a Bible quote about arrogance that you're breaching, oh mighty expert. We shall call you... Tedious Maximus.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee I'm still waiting (for 11 yrs now) for one of you lying atheists to present the evidence where I've ever lost a debate, discussion, argument, anything.... because the fact is that I never lose nor will I lose. It's quite boring, but it's lonely at the top.

Like everyone else, I was born an atheist. My family wasn’t particularly religious but my parents sent me to the Presbyterian Church to receive my indoctrination at age seven or so. I remember sitting on the floor, in the basement with other children. A man was showing us pictures of men in turbans and telling us about Jesus. My seven year old mind told me what bullshit it was. After that, when they took me, I would sneak out the door and sit on a rock wall near the church. As winter approached, I started hiding my shoes on Sunday mornings. That eventually was successful and my parents were cool with my decision.

How many times can he be 100% with them when he is in fact the entire opposite. And when he said he has "experiences" multiple times a day it is clear that listening to debates won't help him. He needs psychiatric care.

@bobs182

3 ай бұрын

Christianity is full of convoluted delusions of making things the opposite of what they are.

I had many wonderful experiences while I was a believer.. but the underlying result of taking xtianity seriously is very, very negative, I can attest..

@Rockyandmom

3 ай бұрын

Please ask for details if you are interested

@bestbehave

3 ай бұрын

I’m good cheers

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

So........... A ROCK DID IT? Is that what you believe? Are you a converted atheist? What is that, exactly? Does that just mean that you give up on thinking? Because the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. This channel should be SHUT DOWN, because NONE of these hosts have any answers either. IF YOU NOTICE they just sit there throwing rocks at the truth. They NEVER LEAD the conversation stating facts and why? Because they can't. The cult of atheism has no FACTUAL BASIS at all. NOTHING they believe in is OBSERVABLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution). You people are soooooooooo naively deceived; it's like you welcome it.

"Tell me when I've ever lost" is not a sound argument for any God existing, so Neverending Fraud retains his perfect record of zero sound arguments for a God existing!

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

It's impossible to argue from logic when your opponent basically claims "MAGIC."

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

Especially since he has lost in every thread here. And whenever he runs from my live stream, he loses BY DEFAULT. He's admitting his defeat.

@CarlHobson-zm2gk

3 ай бұрын

​@quecee why would anyone go on your live stream? You've constantly shown your not grounded in reality. No wonder AmityvillePaul is your best friend.

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

@@CarlHobson-zm2gk Then go on his live stream, show him where he’s wrong.. Cue the excuses and/or insults…

@CarlHobson-zm2gk

3 ай бұрын

@tonyclements1147 why should I go on his failed livestream bunny rabbit? Like you, I own him in the comment section. He says one stupid thing about the Bible, I correct him then it's on to the next stupid know nothing thing. You two should try to get on Oprah! With you, any answer is an excuse or an insult, Oprah's a good listener.

oh hi Mark

So we are not allowed to use an AdBlocker anymore! What is the next human freedom they are going to take away?

I'm certainly not angry, but to me mocking the trolls here is no different from mocking an adult that still believes in Father Christmas .

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

You've let them off the hook slightly there. These people don't just believe in 'Santa', they get extremely angry, abusive and defamatory towards anyone who doesn't!

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

​@@HamptonDoubledayJryep they have problems but most of that is indoctrination They've been taught santa exists and they'll be sent to hell if they don't believe. Others like Nep, Jim/Edith and Jaffen Bond are certifiable.

@JimCastleberry

3 ай бұрын

Clearly, you are obsessed. You've lost every facet of every debate. Labeling those who own you as 'trolls' won't change the fact you're defeated. You have no answers. Do you hate your parents? I noticed you have a Biblical name - Joshua.

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

@@JimCastleberry this is a YT comment section and you're a clown with delusions of adequacy

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

@@JimCastleberry by the way my name is not and never has been Joshua My name is Josh, changed from my original name via deed pole And neither of my parents were indoctrinated death cultists like yours.

"Oh, but there's evidence for Gods existence! There are so many things!" “There's...... uhh......... I saw God’s face and I talk to him!” GMAFB Every fucking time.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

So, you don't get out much? Or is it that you just don't want to know of God's existence BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO EXIST? I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, transitional new anatomy/evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. This fact proves that the initial energy/matter was established by God BEFORE it started to dissipate in disorder over time toward it's heat death end. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you. In my 50 yrs of destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous cult of atheism, all atheists desperately don’t want Christianity to be true (regardless of what they say) & they fight tooth and nail to squirm out of the truth (God, Creation, The Bible) by screaming “FALLACY!” or “FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!” or “THAT’S NOT EVIDENCE!” But they have no bullets for battle when you force them to look at what we observe in the world. 1. NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists NOW/IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. 2. NO PART OF BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). 3. NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Conclusion: You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle and that's why I always win and I make sure other Christians win. So plan to fill your pillow with tears every night if you come to this channel expecting to win any debates. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Congratulations! Write up our paper. Have it peer reviewed and published in a prestigious Religious Journal. Then go collect your Nobel Prize. You have done something no other man has ever been able to do in 2000-years! You will become a millionaire. MORE LIKELY: check yourself into a mental asylum and sit on your bed screaming out for Jesus to come and save you ~ along with all the other looneys! And he never comes. Because he does not exist NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME...hahhaha "God exists outside of time and space". OK…so NEVER and NOWHERE. I'll go with that. Outside of time and space - another way of saying "imaginary.

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Yeah of course, if the universe had a cause - then it means that your "God" was the cause. So, of all the hundreds of "Gods", it was your "God" who created and fine-tuned the Universe. And 13-billion years later he sneaks some poorly written contradictory scriptures to a few illiterate humans on a teeny tiny planet... ... so that all of the Universe would know him. Some plan eh! GMAFB Christianity: The belief that God sacrificed God to God to save God's creations from God.

@wyldink1

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 What about the times when you proved God doesn't exist?

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp The dork also claims that he "debunked" evolution FIFTY years ago. But strangely enough, there's been NO interruption in the science of evolution, as if this "debunking" is a sheer fiction. But what ACTUALLY happened is that he "debunked" a fake evolution that says that new anatomies pop up out of nowhere within a few generations. And where charmander evolves into a charmeleon in front of his eyes. He "debunked" that.

"But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen." - Exodus 33:20 According to scripture, if you did see "God's face" you would not be calling a TV show. You would be pushing up daises. But you would be OK if you had only seen his ass cheeks! You can't make this stuff up folks! Hahahahaha

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Could you be more lost & clueless? I think not. Any improvement and you wouldn't be parading your stupidity in this fashion. Nobody has seen God the Father & lived. But Jesus is also God and many have seen his face. You're too dumb for my time. Try not to comment anymore with your lost & cluelessness.

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

I love how the first reply you got was from one so completely and utterly stupid that he actually *BELIEVES* the stuff that is it self so completely and utterly stupid that you couldn't make it up if you a cabbage for a brain.

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 So which is it genius, see his face and live or not? “… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” - Genesis 32:30 “No man hath seen God at any time…”- John 1:18 But Adam and Eve saw God. So did Abraham and Moses: The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day (Genesis 18:1). The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend (Exodus 33:11).

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

I always refer to the Bible as the world’s oldest, longest-running, most widespread, and least deservedly respected Rorschach Test. You can look at it and see whatever you want. And everybody does. - Richard S. Russell

Good thing at least one guy knows what that nefarious atheist agenda is😂🎉

Why is it that NEPy keeps on looking for me as if he doesn't know how to have a discussion with me? He's the one running from my live stream and getting trounced in the threads, but he claims he's "winning". Yeah. Sure, Jan.😂 Keep "winning" against those imaginary atheists screaming in your head and telling you that a mud puddle doesn't need a god sneezing in it to get a full grown man.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

NEPy's greatest achievement is bringing so many of us atheists together to learn from each others' understanding, reasoning and logic. Not to mention getting a good belly laugh at some of the wit displayed here! Thanks NEPy, you've encouraged us to form a really great, supportive community.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

​@@sirbarryvee-eight6485And his lies about him being a retired millionaire medical doctor got me to post some videos to debunk it, so that was fun.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Just like your Godless faith, your "livestream" is garbage. A few of the lost & clueless gather there to talk about how "mean" the Christians are being to them LOL

@Beacon80

3 ай бұрын

Ooh, ooh! I know! It's because he's a giant coward!

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

@Beacon80 How DARE you use the Occam's razor and select the most likely explanation for things! It's possible that goddunit and created him to be an ignorant coward.

MARK -FL...I agree with you! Hahahaha "At what point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid shit that someone made up! They fucking made it up folks! It's make-believe! - George Carlin

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

You mean like A ROCK DID IT? That's the garbage I see from atheists. I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, transitional new anatomy/evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. This fact proves that the initial energy/matter was established by God BEFORE it started to dissipate in disorder over time toward it's heat death end. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you. In my 50 yrs of destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous cult of atheism, all atheists desperately don’t want Christianity to be true (regardless of what they say) & they fight tooth and nail to squirm out of the truth (God, Creation, The Bible) by screaming “FALLACY!” or “FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!” or “THAT’S NOT EVIDENCE!” But they have no bullets for battle when you force them to look at what we observe in the world. 1. NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists NOW/IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. 2. NO PART OF BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). 3. NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Conclusion: You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle and that's why I always win and I make sure other Christians win. So plan to fill your pillow with tears every night if you come to this channel expecting to win any debates. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

Did Mark just assume my agenda? 🤣

The minister just waffles, and doesn't seem a very good minister.

@AlanFehr

3 ай бұрын

He's a great minister! He won't openly disagree with you and he'll try very hard to phrase what he wants you to believe in a way you won't object. Very good and telling you what you want to hear.

@zoggdawg8141

3 ай бұрын

Thats great for a minister. The bad ones babble instead. Jokes aside he's fine. Sounds like he helps people.

Florida again! 😦

@petermeichan3160

3 ай бұрын

nuff said

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

We haven't heard from FloridaBJ for a while. Wonder what's going on.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee He does that - he had a few weeks of a short while ago before coming back with a vengeance.

Such a pity they did not ask the minister, are they going to hell for not believing?

Your experience is YOUR experience. Congratulations, you have a different experience. Go you. The possibility that it is just feel-good chemicals triggered by self-deception isn't being considered. Well done. Thing is, a lot of people don't have those experiences. There's no reason to believe it anymore, no reason to pretend they have, no reason to seek community with people that are, to the observer, delusional. When a nonbeliever has contact with a believer, the nonbeliever must discern where the believer's imagination ends, and, where their capacity for reason begins. At what point does the madness kick in, and the believer starts to shriek about the nonbeliever being possessed, worthy only of death? This atheist's agenda is a secular society, where people are free to have their individual experiences, and even associate with those who have had similar experiences. As long as you mind your own business, pay your damned taxes, and follow the laws we all agreed on, there will be no smoke from me. That's not where we're at, though, are we? "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." You started this war on reality. It's on you to wave your white flag and sue for peace.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Try to ONLY speak for yourself. To do otherwise only proves how dumb you are, when we already know all atheists are totally bankrupt of wisdom. "REASON!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.

@t800fantasm2

3 ай бұрын

'Your experience is YOUR experience" And a theists experience results from indoctrination, confirmation bias and self-delusion...

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Prove it

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

So you are saying that theists aren't going to use their religious views to marginalize minorities, take away women's rights for bodily autonomy, or to excuse themselves from baking cakes for gays? Or anything like that?

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Hey NEPPY! You previously wrote "I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. He wants to be sought after. Why? Because he's worthy of our pursuit." I would say that if your make believe g0d wanted to be sought after by somebody like but he allows a convicted liar and fraud like yourself come out here and convince me that people like you are the best he can muster, then your g0d can only be a bigger brain donor than you are, and that takes some doing given that you make the average cabbage look like Einstein.

@wrencestondwanson3437 was totally destroyed again. 😀His lies don't help him at all.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

I agree that @wrencestondwanson3437 has never lost a debate, only because he doesn't enter into debates. He thinks he is representing faith but the fact is, he is the best advertisement for questioning faith there could ever be. I have seen no exchange of ideas or discussion from apologists - just insults. I don't criticise someone for belief, many atheists once shared that belief. I will go in boots and all on these pathetic, childish trolls for my own amusement more than anything else. Hopefully others get a laugh out of it!

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@sirbarryvee-eight6485 You're right, that's why I never stated he lost debate, only he was destroyed, debunked, and similar terms. 🙂 "Hopefully others get a laugh out of it!" Actually it helps people during deconversion. They can see what theists REALY are.

The statement "I can prove God" is not proof of God.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

Even if they also quote a Bible verse?🤔

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

​@@queueceeespecially if they quote a bible verse.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Don’t be silly. I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, transitional new anatomy/evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. This fact proves that the initial energy/matter was established by God BEFORE it started to dissipate in disorder over time toward it's heat death end. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you. In my 50 yrs of destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous cult of atheism, all atheists desperately don’t want Christianity to be true (regardless of what they say) & they fight tooth and nail to squirm out of the truth (God, Creation, The Bible) by screaming “FALLACY!” or “FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!” or “THAT’S NOT EVIDENCE!” But they have no bullets for battle when you force them to look at what we observe in the world. 1. NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists NOW/IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. 2. NO PART OF BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). 3. NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Conclusion: You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle and that's why I always win and I make sure other Christians win. So plan to fill your pillow with tears every night if you come to this channel expecting to win any debates. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 "I can prove God in a variety of ways" Go on, then! What's the hold-up?

@amtlpaul

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 The claim that you can prove God does not prove God.

Agenda? Get up, make coffee, fix some toast, take a shower, get dressed, blahblahblahblahblah.....

when they say exactly completely totally they dont get it

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

I get it. I sorta run this channel and I know more of what's important than anyone. So if someone has a sincere question, I'll respond.

@wyldink1

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 LOL, you run this channel? How does that work when you run away from any and all serious discussion? All you do is get pwned and flee.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

@@wyldink1 Maybe he means that he runs away from this channel as soon as I bring up having a discussion with him on my live stream. He is SO slippery that you can't even get him to admit that he's running away like a scaredy cat.

@wyldink1

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee I still say he's like our version of Wimp Lo from the movie Kung Pow, who was trained wrong as a joke, and thought that getting his ass kicked was winning, using such powerful styles as "My face to your foot" to "beat" his opponents.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

@@wyldink1 That's because I'm here for the newbies that are still learning and not the usual fools I've debunked and destroyed 300 times.

Jimedith Bromfeld Castleberry: a melon isn't a Buddhist, therefore...?

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

Is Larry Jim/Edith? Or is it NEPy?

@GroundhogRoy

3 ай бұрын

Is the problem that Buddhists are at one with the Universe, whilst melons always come in pairs? 🤔

Shouldn't have laughed but "That's just a fucking threat" *Sudden descending chair agrees* 😂

Sounds like a nice guy...he was so excited to talk to a real Atheist..lol. Adorable

I would guess almost all deconverted atheists go through the angry athiest stage. We feel we were lied to and betrayed by those we trusted a lot and sometimes turned away by loved ones. Sadly, that is when many atheists want to go out there and debate/talk so I understand why we come off like this.

@quentind1924

3 ай бұрын

For atheists we talk about deconvertion, not convertion

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Converted atheist? What is that, exactly? Does that just mean that you give up on thinking? Because the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. This channel should be SHUT DOWN, because NONE of these hosts have any answers either. IF YOU NOTICE they just sit there throwing rocks at the truth. They NEVER LEAD the conversation stating facts and why? Because they can't. The cult of atheism has no FACTUAL BASIS at all. NOTHING they believe in is OBSERVABLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution). You people are soooooooooo naively deceived; it's like you welcome it.

@herawynn1397

3 ай бұрын

@@quentind1924 good catch, made the change

@ritchie6162

3 ай бұрын

Yup. I’m actually learning about stuff like this now and it explains a lot of my bitterness since I recently accepted I was an atheist. Getting a bit more humble about it now.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

​@@ritchie6162 Humble? About What? That A ROCK DID IT? The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. Do you see these hosts leading the way w/ ANSWERS? Absolutely not. All they ever do is throw rocks at the truth. NO ATHEIST has a rational atheist explanation for reality and why? Because there isn't one. NOTHING THEY BELIEVE has ever been OBSERVED by anybody. It's all just DESPERATION that God isn't real, when it's IMPOSSIBLE that God isn't real. I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult for 50 yrs and 11 yrs here TOTALLY DOMINATING any atheist that comes to this channel. If you want to know the important things about TRUE REALITY, you talk to me. No atheist has any answers at all. These losers (atheists) on these threads attack me personally and why? Because they can only attack the MESSENGER when his MESSAGE totally annihilates their stupidity (atheism). Insulting me is all they have, while I nuke their Godless cult at will.

The more I listen to these kinds of calls, the more convinced I am that the real disconnect between at least myself and a theist, is that the whole topic of god concepts is not really important to me. I don't believe in gods, so it's not really an issue, except when interacting with theists. I get the impression they think being an atheist is the core of our worldview. As if I start every question about the world around me with "Because I don't believe in gods....." It's not like that at all.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

So how about explaining yourself. Are you now saying A ROCK DID IT? Are you a converted atheist? What is that, exactly? Does that just mean that you give up on thinking? Because the atheist cult is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. This channel should be SHUT DOWN, because NONE of these hosts have any answers either. IF YOU NOTICE they just sit there throwing rocks at the truth. They NEVER LEAD the conversation stating facts and why? Because they can't. The cult of atheism has no FACTUAL BASIS at all. NOTHING they believe in is OBSERVABLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution). You people are soooooooooo naively deceived; it's like you welcome it.

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@somersetcace1 "I believe this Christian theology simply because I was randomly born into this culture and was told to believe it as a child. I have not one shred of verifiable data or empirical science-based evidence for my God. I just believe it on faith." If Christians could just state this fact ~ these discussions would be much shorter.

8:30 Someone told him something at an unspecified time and then something, he didn't bother telling what, happened and poof he was a christian. Ok, I'm convinced, where do I sign up?

What a small dark world full of ignorance, mysticism and superstition these theists inhabit.

Him complainimg that atheists are aggresive is especially rich, considerimg the Millions, if not billions, of victims of religion. Abuse, murder, psychological abuse, isolation, money schemes etc etc And as for atheists, that is Only a position on a god claim, whatever else that person does, or doesn't do, is separate. And there are certainly no wars in the name of atheism. As for the hell threats (repent etc), i standard report that as promotion of terr..... Which it is

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

​@@jaflenbond7854Mr Bond posts a self assessment

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Reported for SPAM, Jaffles! Your post will disappear very soon.

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Reported for SPAM, Jaffles! Your post will disappear very soon.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Fairy Bread🙏

I haven't found evidence for god. Personally, I don't believe god exist. Which is different from my first statement. I recognise I don't have evidence for my second statement. But more then that I think most religions are down right immoral. I particularly think a lot of the content of the bible is downright immoral.

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

​@@jaflenbond7854nobody lives forever, Mr Bond

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 blabla from insane mind

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 blabla from inasne mind

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

​@@jaflenbond7854​ Beautiful words, man. Beautiful words. Now do the bit where God sets out rules for not beating the snot out of your slaves too badly.

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Bye bye, insane troll. You disapear again eventually.

I've never heard of this so-called "atheist agenda"---although I have heard about the "atheist pot luck and baby-roast"

Well, see, that’s where we differ. Being a lifelong agnostic and humanist, the gentleman on the phone sounds like a kind, decent person in my book, one I’d frankly much prefer to have a drink with than, say, Richard Dawkins, who for all his advertised rationalism is little more than an arrogant bigot. We’re never going to all see eye-to-eye on some of the fundamental questions of existence, and there is no need for us to, so long as we treat one another with respect.

Ive never had a negative experience with religion because i never was taught about GOD and Christianity growing up in the first place. So i dont believe for nearly the same reason you do believe. I was simply not taught a god exists. YOu believe because you were taught it was true.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Then you remain lost & clueless. Yet you come on here to tell everyone how lost & clueless you are? Even more, you also state that you think we're also as lost & clueless as you are. I assure you that such is not the case. Try not to speak for others.

@SeverelyGlitchy

3 ай бұрын

​@@wrencestondwanson3437 well if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black. You constantly strawman positions and yet you get your knickers in a twist when someone does it to you? Golden rule, my guy.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

@@SeverelyGlitchy Sorry, but I don't allow "strawman" accusations unless you can prove them.

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 You eat scat. I can prove it.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

​@@SeverelyGlitchyNEPy saying anything about strawman arguments is simply the height of irony. 😂

Don't be silly. The gays would have mimosas. 😜

Believe in Santa, believe in god....what's the difference. Santa comes down the stove pipe, god comes from where again?

@joecoolioness6399

3 ай бұрын

Santa doesn't drown people because other people misbehave. I like Santa better.

@jimr9921

3 ай бұрын

@@joecoolioness6399 You are correct, point taken.

@denverarnold6210

Ай бұрын

​@@joecoolioness6399he does kinda have his own devil, in some cultures, tho: Krampus.

How can this guy repeatedly fully agree that religion does harm and still be a minister? He probably thinks that his version of religion is okay, but that is not what an anti-theist would say; not all religions are equally bad, but they are all bad.

The atheist “agenda” to me is just to get through my life.

And yet another theist falls flat on their face...

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Not me. I'm going to make you be the one that "falls on their face," because I don't lose debates. I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, transitional new anatomy/evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. This fact proves that the initial energy/matter was established by God BEFORE it started to dissipate in disorder over time toward it's heat death end. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you. In my 50 yrs of destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous cult of atheism, all atheists desperately don’t want Christianity to be true (regardless of what they say) & they fight tooth and nail to squirm out of the truth (God, Creation, The Bible) by screaming “FALLACY!” or “FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!” or “THAT’S NOT EVIDENCE!” But they have no bullets for battle when you force them to look at what we observe in the world. 1. NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists NOW/IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. 2. NO PART OF BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). 3. NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Conclusion: You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle and that's why I always win and I make sure other Christians win. So plan to fill your pillow with tears every night if you come to this channel expecting to win any debates. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

@DennisMerwood-xk8wp

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Congratulations! Write up our paper. Have it peer reviewed and published in a prestigious Religious Journal. Then go collect your Nobel Prize. You have done something no other man has ever been able to do in 2000-years!

@wyldink1

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 You've never once proven a God. You have, meanwhile, proven several times that your God does not exist. Then you ran away when we pointed it out.

@shmick6079

Ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437….aaaaand fail.

I think that what Mark means when he says "it would be impossible for me to deny the existence of god" is "it would be impossible for me to overcome the fear of denying the existence of god". If it were true, and it was a relationship...you could show it. That means what you have is not a relationship. The indoctrination has you pushed to the very edge of self deception, such that it is as real to you as are the thoughts in your own head. But that's all it is, these are thoughts in your own head that you cannot demonstrate to anyone else. And it's not the existence of the thing that is causing you to not be able to face this objectively, it's the fear that has taken root after near total indoctrination that is essentially a defense mechanism causing you to never analyze these beliefs in the scope of reality. I feel for Mark because I think this was done TO him. Religion preys on people just like Mark and it's incredibly insidious and damaging.

Mark seems rather condescending.

*How to Make the Bible Fit: Lesson 94* Larry Craddock: Name any current world event going on today, and the Bible has an answer for it. Me: OK - shrinkflation. What does the Bible say about that, oh Wise One? 🙏 Larry: Revelation chapter 6 verse 5 . Look at the rider on the black horse. What is he holding in his hands? A pair of scales right? What happens when those scales finally tip over? The whole Economic system will come crashing down like a house of cards. A loaf of bread will eventually cost a days wage. Can you afford that kind of Hyperinflation that that verse of scripture predicts? You see Hampton it's not about shrinkflation, its about the Hyperinflation that that rider on the black horse is predicting. A prediction made 2,000 years ago that is now coming into view. But being the atheist that you are you cannot understand it can you? your problem is your laziness. You are not willing to take the time to see the predictions of the Bible are coming true in our time and you probably don't care either 😂💩🍿

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

*Part Deux* Me: Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it. Not that the Bible's so cryptic and open to misinterpretation. Not even people with PhDs in theology can agree on what half of Revelations mean. But kudos on trying to make a bloke on a black horse represent shrinkflation - that's a good one 😂 Larry: Bible scholars with PHD'S all agree on one thing. They all believe in what the Book of Revelation predicts. Wait - they do? 🤣

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

​@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr When he says "Bible scholars with PHDs", he's talking about another group of people who live in his tiny, tiny head. This includes all the atheists who scream at him, scientists who tell him that man cam from a mud puddle or a rock soup without God having blown into it, people with the debate skills of the predatory deep sea sponges, and all the people who believe that he's a Bible expert.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

*Part Trois* Groundhog Roy: There are 45,000 denominations of Christianity around the world (including 200 in the US alone). So tell us again about how amazingly united you guys are? Larry: Ephesians chapter 4 verses 5-13 says that there is only One faith, one Lord, and one Baptism. Not 45,000. Once again you have proven your lack of understanding This dude is killing me 😂🤣🍿

I am an atheist and I don't really have a specific agenda. I don't believe in a god and it literally takes up none of my time! 😂

Mark had too much coffee.. or cocaine

The caller should travel outside America if he thinks all atheists are loud and aggressive etc. Visit a largely non religious country and people are not aggressive or pushing atheism. It doesn't even come up in conversation. We are too busy trying to improve society and be good to each other.

@wrencestondwanson3437

3 ай бұрын

Then you're undone, dying and on your way to hell. Thanks for the notice, but I already knew it. I can prove God in a variety of ways, while at the same time, you have no rational atheist explanation for reality. So you lose out of the gate. God is easily proved. Romans 1:20 declares that God is proved by his creation, so I'll prove creation. Can you point to anything that can't be counted, measured & had no beginning or end (INFINITE)? No, you can't. EVERYTHING in this FINITE universe can be counted, measured & has a beginning and an eventual end. That means it was created; thus, "natural causes" don't exist. Nature can't be the "cause" of anything, because DYING/FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) was created/designed from nothing by God. And ALL MATTER doesn’t do nothing but dissipate over time - LOSING INFORMATION. That’s why you never observe any GAIN OF NEW INFORMATION (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, transitional new anatomy/evolution), because it doesn’t exist, can’t exist & never will exist. This fact proves that the initial energy/matter was established by God BEFORE it started to dissipate in disorder over time toward it's heat death end. TO FURTHER PROVE GOD; if it can be "counted or measured" it's a DYING/FINITE (having a beginning & an eventual END/death) entity that has a cause. Then, we simply ascertain what RATIONAL POSSIBLE cause has LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY to give and the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to give it. No atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, primordial soup) fits the bill. This SCIENCE points to God and nothing else. God proved/Atheism debunked. P.S. - More evidence for God is that no atheist on the face of this earth has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. They should SHUT DOWN THIS CHANNEL until they do have a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. The asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. It’s time to dump your atheist cult, but you have to want to do it. Everybody desperately clings to the atheist cult out of tragedy or wanting to take the path of least resistance & rebel against their creator for the gift of life given them. They simply don’t want to pay the price. They expect “A FREE LUNCH” when life itself teaches you that “THERE’S NO FREE LUNCH!” But we have to pay the price for anything that has value. It’s time you say “yes” to Jesus. I’ll help you. In my 50 yrs of destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous cult of atheism, all atheists desperately don’t want Christianity to be true (regardless of what they say) & they fight tooth and nail to squirm out of the truth (God, Creation, The Bible) by screaming “FALLACY!” or “FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!” or “THAT’S NOT EVIDENCE!” But they have no bullets for battle when you force them to look at what we observe in the world. 1. NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists NOW/IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME. 2. NO PART OF BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). 3. NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine). Conclusion: You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle and that's why I always win and I make sure other Christians win. So plan to fill your pillow with tears every night if you come to this channel expecting to win any debates. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 "I can prove God in a variety of ways" Go on, then!

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

​@@HamptonDoubledayJrHis "proof" is a Bible verse saying everything is evidence, conveniently. And then, "look things die, therefore god". Or, i don't believe science, which can only mean that God created the universe. He doesn't understand what a dichotomy is.

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 "dying and on your way to hell" 🤣

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@wrencestondwanson3437 Repeat after me: there is no such thing as god in reality. Clear evidence shows us that every isolated society created their own version of gods, their own verion of LOCAL FLOOD, their own version of Earth and universe. There are no mutually isolated two places in the world where people have the same gods, that clearly proves that EVERY IDEA OF EVERY GOD IS MAN MADE.

My god, all of the absolutes he uses... "I absolutely understand!" No you don't. Stop trying to make it sound like you do. If you understood completely, there would be no conflict.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

It's fair to say, though, that he's an absolute knobhead.

@AlanFehr

3 ай бұрын

Wow, I want to rip my ears off! "Right! Yes! Right! Exactly! I agree, absolutely! Yes, there's a lot of harm done by religious (fanatics)." So two-faced.

You are 100 % with them but then you make up something else

Here are even more reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus. He marginalized poor people. Matthew 26:11 SAB He was such a control freak, that he wouldn't allow a disciple leave to bury his father, and even makes a cruel joke of it. Matthew 8:21-22 He makes a woman beg and beg and calls her a dog, before he will heal her daughter. Matthew 15:21 NAB He tells slaves to obey their masters, as well as him. Ephesians 6:5 He tells Saul that he is "kicking against the goads" which is a cruel analogy because it was a form of animal abuse. Goads were long, sharpened sticks used to prod oxen when they were hitched to yokes. Not wanting to be jabbed again with the stick, the ox would kick against it. It would soon learn that it was better to accept the direction of the farmer than to “kick against the goad.” In this context of Acts 26:14, when *Jesus* asks Saul why he is kicking against the goads, the expression means that it is foolish and futile to resist God’s will. And speaking of animal abuse, He sent demons into 2,000 pigs and caused them to jump off a cliff and drown in the sea. Mark 5:12-13

As Christians go Mark seems pretty good. But, just don't believe the mumbo jumbo of it. It is not reality.

Can't Mark reflect back to when he didn’t believe and why. Presumably he had no good reason to believe, same as a declared atheist.

Don 🥰

What is the abigfootist agenda?

PROOF my man PROOF! Mark you understand.......BULLSHIT!

Wanna know what i wonder as an Atheist if i came fromy fathers balls how can i have a soul and if there isn't one then what is the point of holy spirit

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Reported for SPAM, Jaffles! Your post will disappear very soon.

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

Jaffles, why are you so scared of having an adult discussion? I’m guessing you can’t without copy paste to fall back on.

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 You were all upset the other day when your posts were auto ghosted. HA HA HA!!

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 Reported for SPAM, Jaffles! Your post will disappear very soon.

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854 "hurt, wounded, angered, and offended" Just disgusted from your pathetic troll existence.

He has experiences of GOD everyday? Maybe he should film those experiences?

What bugs me is that God and/or Jesus is perfect. Something in me says that if something is perfect then it couldn't be anything other than identical in every respect. Uniquely perfect, as it were. A perfect score in darts doesn't have to be molecule perfect, it just needs to be triple 20 or whatever. But for a deity it surely is different. And to that, time must also come into it. Strange.

Not ruling peoples lives based on some shitty book. End of agenda.

Hugh Ross has one of the best god existence arguments, as well as scientific evidence. He also explains why christianity is scientifically accurate. Check his videos Just type Hugh Ross

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

Nah, I'm good.

@HamptonDoubledayJr

3 ай бұрын

"Ross rejects both abiogenesis and evolution as explanations for the origin and history of life, contrary to the scientific consensus. Ross' position overlaps with that of intelligent design, but Ross argues that the evidence points to Jesus Christ as the designer, instead of an undefined intelligent designer." 💩🤦‍♂

@amtlpaul

3 ай бұрын

What's the argument?

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

Scientific evidence? Where's his Nobel prize?

@tonyclements1147

3 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️😂🤣

Atheist agenda, live life to the fullest, respect other people Aggressive Atheist? more like defending against the theist hatred onslaught.

Up until about 5 minutes this was actually an interesting conversation. But then she went into the "Why do we care what the gospel tells" and then the flowchart begins. I hate it, just have the fucking conversation and let them get away with something every now and then. You can wrap around later if needed.

Please tell me your thoughts: The original Star Wars was not about laser swords and space monks; it was about narcissistic personality disorder tearing apart a family. Vader, through the abuses of slavery and the trauma of his mother's death, developed severe NPD. This is revealed by his abrupt turn to the dark side. All Anakin needed was a little push with desperation, and Palpatine knew Anakin would flip to become a full-blown Satanist with severe NPD, easily controlled like a mental s*l*a*v*e. The Master/Apprentice relationship can be compared to a vampire master/slave relationship. It's the same representation. Luke represents the empath, the son, who by growing up within a loving, caring family (Uncle Owen), unaffected by abuse, realizes his father is m*e*n*t*a*l*l*y ill. That's why he refuses to strike his father; Luke is protecting him from himself, from his own m*e*n*t*a*l illness. The cave scene represents Luke's exorcism, facing his trauma and his very essence, and learning the truth about himself: that he's the son of a monster. It's akin to learning your father was a p*e*d*o or something equally horrific. He faced trauma and overcome it in that scene. He accepted his reality. He became emotionally mature. He became an adult. Luke's refusal to strike his father down and further abuse an abuse victim (Vader) is how an emotionally mature person helps a family member struggling with m*e*n*t*a*l illness. This is how we should treat our m*e*n*t*a*l*l*y ill, with compassion and understanding, never more abuse. But instead, we punish severe abuse victims further, traumatizing them again by putting them in a prison. And we wonder why they reoffend. It's barbaric. Lying to the m*e*n*t*a*l*l*y ill and/or abusing them further is how our society has chosen to deal with those of us that need help the most.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

Who hurt you?

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

BTW, ALL your reimagining Star Wars around your personal trauma is interesting in what it reveals about yourself. But the cave scene is about Luke being able to face himself. It's not about him being a "son of a monster". It's about him BEING the monster that he angrily made Vader to be. There's nothing in that scene that reveals Vader being his father. I find your lack of reasoning disturbing.

@joshsheridan9511

3 ай бұрын

Have you thought of getting therapy for your obvious issues?

@TheMysteryofWhy

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee "Who hurt you?" More childish ignorance from a satanist, I mean atheist. Weird, it's like you're identical or something. It's almost like you lie to yourself, call each other atheists so you can stay in a delusion and ignore what you really are. Atheists are Individualists, they are Satanists. You are in a religion and don't even know it because you refuse to understand religion and you don't understand atheism. You believe Christianity or some other nonsense personal god concept is the only other option so you sit in your ignorance, and repel any information that comes your way. You are content to abuse yourself and everyone around you with your ignorant Individualistic beliefs because you're too scared to accept your reality and become an adult. Because then, you would have to be personally accountable for your own suffering. You can no longer be a victim like you so desperately want to be. Human psychology explains atheism it also explains God, of which you can't be bothered to learn. Have a good day.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

@@TheMysteryofWhy You DO know that atheists don't believe in satan, don't you? And me asking about your trauma that you talk about OVER and OVER is not "childish ignorance". Anyone can see how you are obsessed over surviving abuse. If that's not the case, then congratulations in being able to act EXACTLY like some damaged person. And yes, human psychology DOES explain atheism, which is based on skeptical reasoning. And it explains the god belief. There's even studies demonstrating a human's propensity to make up god stories. And you don't seem to want to even bother learning about this.

So here is my question. What would it take to convince an atheist that there is a God?

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

3 ай бұрын

That would depend on what version of gods/god you're talking about.

@gmswhackos2652

3 ай бұрын

@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 An all powerful Intelligence that is eternal and not subject to space/time.

@Seticzech

3 ай бұрын

@@gmswhackos2652 "An all powerful Intelligence that is eternal and not subject to space/time." So literally non-existent. 😀

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

Why don't you start with verifiable evidence? Something concrete that undeniably comes from god? And btw, "look at the trees" don't count as evidence. And personal incredulity of, "that picture of Jesus on the burnt toast could ONLY come from god" doesn't count. And just an empty claim, "goddunit" doesn't work either. Whenever theists ask what evidence would convince an atheist about god, they act as if there's SO much evidence that they need to filter it out. But they have nothing.

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

First you need to *DEFINE* the g0d that want to convince an atheist actually exists.

God is not something you believe in, it's something you understand. It's not Jesus that you need to accept. It's not even God that you need to accept. You need to accept reality, the good and the bad. If you do, you're shown the real heaven, being in this fascinating world that is consciousness while being emotionally mature enough to enjoy it to its fullest before you inevitably cease consciousness, without fear, anger, or desperation. You've mourned yourself and no longer fear death. That is the real heaven, and you're missing it. When you are emotionally mature, you understand how to recognize and stop abuses, and you understand that your poor behavior is the cause of most of your suffering in this world. That is what Christians mean when they claim they can "repel evil." They understand abuse and they no longer let it destroy their emotional well-being. (their soul)

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

When you say _"That is what Christians mean when they claim they can "repel evil." They understand abuse and they no longer let it destroy their emotional well-being"_ are you talking about the hundreds of years of child sexual abuse by a supposedly celibate clergy?

@stephenolan5539

3 ай бұрын

You are talking about Buddism.

@TheMysteryofWhy

3 ай бұрын

@@stephenolan5539 Doubt it, but you're free to think what you want. Have a good night.

@queuecee

3 ай бұрын

You are saying you understand God? I doubt that very much. What you have is a god concept that you create in your imagination. Haven't you found it odd that your god agrees with every one of your prejudiced belief? I'll bet you are one of those that complain about pronouns. What does your god think? Does he dare disagree with you?

@holgerlubotzki3469

3 ай бұрын

@@queuecee Self delusion must be very comforting if you can get there.