One time about 30 years ago the Lord gave me a dream about my friend. She was going to have her gall bladder removed. I told her that she did not have gall stones anymore and not to have the surgery and to ask her doctor to do another sonogram. She did. Her doctor was very upset but did another sonogram and there were no gall stones. I was very new Christian but was so glad I spoke up. She did not have the surgery and her doctor was amazed. The Lord only used me in this way one time.

@petratical

Жыл бұрын

That was a "word of knowledge" 1 Corinthians 12:8 given as the Spirit directs.

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

... You deserve a L-O-N-G foot rub every day for 6 months , bridging Christmas Time !

@matildamaher1505

Жыл бұрын

Good on you for letting her know

@Xaforn

10 ай бұрын

I have had epilepsy my whole life so due to many seizures I should have quite a bit of scar tissue built up, I was prayed for before I went to go get a new mri for my new doctor and she kept staring at the results and at me back and forth. Her jaw fell open and she said “your brain is perfect, as if you’ve never had a seizure in your life”!! God is good!

@Anonymous-cm9md

4 ай бұрын

Praise God for these healings! I don’t think pastor Parr is saying God doesn’t perform miracles today or answer our prayers.

Indeed, Melissa. The more you are in the word for yourself, the more you will sense when something from the pulpit, or conferences, or wherever, doesn't line up with His Word and His character.

I totally appreciate and agree with you in the area of prophecy. I had been miraculously healed of a very rare form of cancer (after many tests confirming it, the surgeon went in andit was completely gone!) Later, our church brought in a "prophet" who came to me and "prophesied" that my healing was not real, but would return. I left the service saying "I do not accept this word". That was 24 years ago this month! Thank you for this message.

@barbarahayes4696

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad you stood strong. We don't have to except the devils lies no matter who tjey come through.

@CG87343

6 ай бұрын

You were healed by the sovereign hand of God. Simple as that.

Thank you Allen for not being afraid to speak the truth.

@gabepettinicchio7454

Жыл бұрын

The "truth" should not be a general term. It is precise & singular. If they both spoke the truth along with all other Christians, then they should all be united in all beliefs & belong to the same faith. No?

@toolegittoquit_001

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabepettinicchio7454 Jesus is the Truth Discuss

@himthatsdoin

Жыл бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 aa34⁵

@VaughanMcCue

11 ай бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 It is an indication of the followers' low level of thinking quality if you presented a discussion point and the simpletons could only tick it. Truth comports with reality. JC said he wasn't attending the party at the telephone booths, then went anyway. You can run an apologetics narrative for WHY he lied, but Exo 20;16 says no lying. If your kids did it to you, you would call JC's behaviour a lie, but double standards are acceptable - if it suits the story. Sorry that 30 days later and only one person 'discussed' your proposition.

I have been in that position. I had a Pastor pray and everyone around me fell to the floor. I prayed before I went up to the altar, and asked Jesus to be the only one to make me fall out. They tried to push me back a bit, but I did not fall out. When I didn't speak in tongues, or fall out, I was treated differently.

@vickyandersen8660

Жыл бұрын

Find another church 😅

@shoshonaquantrill4440

Жыл бұрын

When this happened to me as they were tutting I threw myself on floor.i would have loved to see their faces

@JesusLovesBest

Жыл бұрын

I've had a similar manipulation used on me when I was a young Believer. Jesus forces nothing- ever. Scriptural principles that are Biblical are being misused and things are being not done in faith. Stay in the Word and build your faith and remember all things are possible with God. All things are to be done for HIS glory. There's no 123 manual to have an easy life here on earth- expect persecution; the more you learn of Christ (study the Word alot!) and get to know His will and move in His gifts (HIS being key)the more one's faith grows. True signs and wonders will follow and God gets all the glory. I do understand the skepticism because there's so much deception and manipulation in today's churches. Sad 😢

@VaughanMcCue

Жыл бұрын

@@vickyandersen8660 Learn a new language, and wear your shoes on opposite feet. The shoe trick will put you off balance.

@amyhellerford9422

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that shld NEVER happen... so sorry !

My top two KZread hosts in one show... what a treat

I walked my husband home through brain cancer. The unimaginable happens. It was a nightmare but also my honor to be there for him during the worst time in our life.

@2knowah

Жыл бұрын

There’s nothing as painful and precious as the home going of the saints.

@-ChrisD

Жыл бұрын

❤

@terrikennedy3088

Жыл бұрын

To grow in Christ requires suffering. Not popular at the pulpit, but a biblical basic. To partake in suffering in faith is holy.

I’ve said this before. In the beginning of the New Testament Matthew talks about the church’s and what they were doing. For a long time I didn’t quite understand why? Now I can see what’s happening in the World and in the Church’s today. Read your bible and use it as your armor against sin and lies.

@J_LOVES_ME

Ай бұрын

This I think is the #1 thing we all must do. Read our Bibles every day! There is more to gain than just saying you have "read the Bible." It is how God communicates with is, and how the Holy Spirit teaches us.

"All are welcome. We have an open mind . " Church sign in my town. Someone put: "Don't trip on your open mind" under it.

@helenpeddycord2241

Жыл бұрын

Or “Don’t let your brains fall out!” 😩😩

@ab-gail

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@ramonpooser2434

Жыл бұрын

Hmm…or over? That’s a road so quiet people chuckle down it to feel important.

@Vaxxedhole

Жыл бұрын

They only say that to avoid being offensive. They're cowards without spines.

@kathystoneburner4947

11 ай бұрын

I love my church but drove by one that had "NO WOKE CHURCH" sign I front and if I didn't love my church that sign alone could tempt me to try it.

I am new to this channel and can’t binge watch enough. I always say “If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans”. LOL

@roselisembee2333

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your quote. I found it easy to remember, to -the -point and helpful in a current situation.

@lindateuling7862

Жыл бұрын

Plan making can be a gift from God when we submit the plans to Him for HIS approval. Sometimes I've been afraid to take initiative and/or think because then I'm not "depending on God."

Timely message. After spending time reading and rereading the bible, I was finding things done in my church didn't line up...at all. My questions, done in a non-confrontational manner, fell on deaf ears. It was a "I wrote I book, so I know" mentality. I pray for them.

@ysabelduran1247

Жыл бұрын

Hi Wendy. Can you share some of the things done in your church that were unscriptural? I'm so glad that you were able to discern their lies

@scambammer6102

Жыл бұрын

well the rape and genocide is definitively scriptural, so feel free

@moonstrukk126

10 ай бұрын

What specifically are you praying for? The reality is we don't know what people need, so general prayers for them to find their peace or joy might be ok, however specific prayers for others, unless you have permission, are unacceptable.

@EmunahFL

10 ай бұрын

@@moonstrukk126 Where does it say that in the BIble?

@moonstrukk126

10 ай бұрын

@@EmunahFL It's just common sense. Do you REALLY think that YOU are mere human being can know exactly what a person needs without first consulting with them? The absolute HUBRIS of some Christians.

I’m a work in progress! My faith went through hell the last three years as I’m sure many others have too with all the crazy things going on in this world. I tried finding a church that I felt comfortable in many years ago when my daughter was little but I always ended up bitter because they weren’t a good fit I felt like I was closer to Jesus at home reading and studying the Bible on my own. I’m still a work in progress 🙏❤️🇺🇸💪🏼

@lindadodd3829

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

@thomasrechenmacher8093

Жыл бұрын

AMEN! Me too!

@couturedeana

Жыл бұрын

Me2

@timharrison1158

Жыл бұрын

Find a church that preaches the Bible. You'll have a better chance of finding a 'good fit' if they teach the Word of God. God bless. We're all a work in progress.

@robertschmidt9296

Жыл бұрын

@@timharrison1158 there are very few that do.

My brother went through this exact same thing in a charismatic church. I actually had to help him understand that those things were NOT biblical. So thankful for you spreading truth. God bless you.

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

... you and I ... & Everyone ... use our words to Speak things into Existence all the time , Renee ... in the normal course of our lives . Here is an Example : When interviewing for a job, doesn't Everyone tell the Boss that they are going to be a GREAT WORKER for them !? Now how can they say that , Renee - aren't they Predicting the Future and Lying about it ? I mean - shouldn't they be " HONEST " as you and Melissa would require here... and tell the Boss that it is a Risk to hire them & a Big Mistake to expect them to be able to do the Job ?? Yes , Renee ... no one would get Hired if they followed the Faithless talk that you & Melissa say is the Christian way to be ...and many other things.

@petratical

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdelopst4699 Right, as there is nothing wrong with saying, "By his strips I am heal", agreeing with Peters writing, ; "by whose strips you were (past tense) healed:" thus making it personal, receiving the promise! 1 Peter 2:24.

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

@@petratical ...amen ; our Confession of Jesus as Lord was meant to be followed by a lifetime of applying this Universal Spiritual Principle using Words to our Benefit . In regards to Physical Healing as you mentioned - it is a often a Matter of Life & Death ; the most often Prayer request I encounter is for the Sickness of either the Believer themselves or someone they know . But when something like this book offer is about the only thing offered by Ministers...one knows that there is little use in praying for folks - because they will Not believe and Confess properly to recover ( because it isn't being taught... )

@fromjayne4726

Жыл бұрын

Was it one of the cfm churches?

@idunno3302

Жыл бұрын

Lol Christians arguing over dogma. You know the Bible is a book written by men right?

I went through EVERYTHING Allen Parr describes while in college: fellowships that give you the cold shoulder if you don't speak in tongues, fall down when prayed for, don't think name it and claim it is spiritual, etc. A Catholic nun blessed by God with the gift of healing(God healed her of crippling arthritis) said it best: 'To say you are healed when you are not is a religious way of telling lies.'

@karriem5666

Жыл бұрын

The why did God tell Abram to call himself "the father of many nations" BEFORE he had Isaac?

@verindictus3639

10 ай бұрын

@@karriem5666 GOD called Abraham the father of many nations"; God didn't tell Abraham to call HIMSELF the father of many nations.

@karriem5666

10 ай бұрын

@@verindictus3639 Did God tell Adam to call himself Adam?

I have/had a friend who totally believes the speaking things into existence. It got to where I couldn't even talk to her about anything going on in my life because I was "speaking" it into existence. Makes for a difficult friendship when you can't even talk about what is going on in your life.

- Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth

My grandpa once told some ppl in the church group that he saw a vision of one of the kids drowning in a lake *if they went to the trip they planned* The kid was going to be neglected for a short period of time and then someone was going to notice that he was missing. They will stop what they are doing and search for him, and they will find him drowned. Grandpa pleaded with them constantly. He said that he has a marker with God, that when he sleeps in his chair a certain way, and has a vision, he knows it’s from God. They didnt listen, they went on the trip and everything happened exactly as he saw and they lost that child over it. 🥶 He was a prominent pastor in Egypt, there was no reason not to take him seriously. Prophecy definitely still happens

@petratical

Жыл бұрын

It is one of the 9 gifts of the Spirit, 1 Corinthians 12:1-12.

@VaughanMcCue

Жыл бұрын

I had the same dream, and it was a sandpit and the 'lake" was a mirage. Some old people have wonderful imaginations and often mix up reality with fiction. Instead of pleading, why didn't the miserable old goat go himself? If he was a typical grifter/pastor, he probably scored plenty of money out of the gullible fools. The god industry is a cash cow- holy cow!

"Who has spoken and it come to pass, unless the Lord has ordained it?" - Lamentations 3:37

You described my experience exactly: Being pressured to speak in tongues, or be slain in the spirit... Being made to feel there was something wrong with me that I wasn't getting "words" from God, or daring to question others' words and prophecies. There is a time and place for some of these things but the Bible commands us to be orderly in our worship. Boy, do we need a book like you have written!

@kelleyashworth8178

Жыл бұрын

I have been slayed in the Spirit. But I do specifically remember a time when someone was praying over me, and they had one hand on my forehead and another on a pressure point on the back of my neck. She kept trying to push me down, and I felt her doing this. A couple of months later, I was slain in the Spirit, and it was a completely different experience.

This book is a MUST read for some "Christians". He exposes a multitude of the deceit in Churches misleading people who are not BIBLICALLY sound! Thanks Allen 👏👏👏👍👍👍

And if you are even a little bit skeptical of the validity of the prophecy, they will say "don't quench the spirit!"😮

@NDCCMTX

Жыл бұрын

Yet Isaiah's prophecies didn't come true for hundreds of years and people must have told him he's a kook. Let prophets judge other prophecies (1Corinthians 14:29).

@barbarahayes4696

11 ай бұрын

The Bible doesn't say that there is no prophecy, it says to test the spirit behind it. If it comes to pass it is of God and if not, it wasn't. Unless God gives a time line for the prophecy just watch and see.

Thank you both for this! I have a sister who went through bssm many years ago and so much of what y’all were speaking about sounded just like her! Always saying “God told me to tell you this” Or prophesying things. Which by the way never come to pass! Please pray for her! She is so caught up in this and blinded to the truth!

I just started watching these educational podcasts and had started to watch New Age videos so I am deeply grateful for these clarifications on Scripture. I was not well versed in the Bible and had no reference point. Thank you for your education in the true philosophy of New Age (my best friend is immersed in it) and for Allen’s work in this area as well. Since my daughter recently died I was contemplating psychic readings in an attempt to reassure myself she is in a “ better place”. In great appreciation, from California ❤

Please pray for my siblings who have been involved in the Wof/Nar movement for over 35 years.

Melissa, I appreciate you bringing such wonderful guests on your show. Ive subscribed to several new Christian channels after watching some of these interviews.

I was bitten and swollen in my hip, and refused to accept it, because my Bible says that I am healed by the stripes of Jesus. I immediately, through the excruciating pain, started to praise and worship God for the Truth. That I am healed be the stripes of Jesus. I went on till some time past midnight. The pain was the worst kind of pain I ever experienced. But suddenly it vanished. The swelling, the pain, instantly gone. That changed the way I see things. Can you understand that? You can never see things the same again. How do I communicate that to people? Can you understand that?

I'm so glad you deal with people's belief that we shouldn't refer to negative facts in our life e.g. being sick. Spot on! I've always felt that's like stopping people being truthful about situations. That can't be of God.

About prophecy, my pastor--who's medically diagnosed to have issues with his reproductive organ, was told by a fellow churchmate that, in a dream, she saw the pastor's wife pregnant. She was very specific too--she spoke of how she saw the pastor's wife getting on a plane, all pregnant. My pastor and his wife were set to travel by plane a week out and 2 days before their flight, they suddenly had the urge to take a Pregnancy Test, and lo and behold, she was indeed pregnant!

@AJourneyBackToEden

Жыл бұрын

My husband and I wanted as many children as possible. My husband had a dream I was pregnant and then we started experiencing strange occurrences of doubles and we believed God was going to give us multiples. One day soon after my husband had the urge to go to Target and I asked him what for and he didnt know but once we got there I heard an audible voice tell me to get a pregnancy test and when we got home we found out I was indeed pregnant. We told everyone we were expecting twins and once we got the first ultrasound it was confirmed. Twins don't run on either side of our family.

The most dangerous is, "say the sinner's prayer" salvation

Yes, we are made in the image AND likeness of God. It takes a lifetime to become “like Him.” That is our journey, to become like God.

I was praying for someone to talk about these exact topics & prophecy issues in the church. Thank you two so much for coming together on this issue and thank you Allen for the book!! I’m going to buy it today!🙏🏽

@thebeatagp

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@VaughanMcCue

Жыл бұрын

I hope you spent your money on something other than a book to prop up your confirmation biases. Giving the money to the Ukrainian rescue fund would be a better choice.

Great chat. Dealing once again with this word of faith health and wealth now in my church in the u k.

We’ve created doctrines, ideologies, and a response to men that were broken,uninformed but in ministry. The power of God is still real and we are going to need it for the end times . Seek God for yourself.

Def buying Allen's book. Already added it to my Amazon cart. And I can relate to the whole "fake prophecy" thing. The church I was saved at had 1 of these guys come in (can't remember his name) and dude pointed at me, said I was gonna "do great things", laid his hands on me, prayed over me whilst speaking in tongue's (yes it was a Pentecostal church, Assemblies of God for those who care) and went to someone else. Hasn't happened yet. Maybe it'll still happen. I'm definitely open to the idea. But I something tells me it won't. It's been 13 years, still waiting.

Pre-ordered your book AND the course!! Thanks! And bless you both!!!

Melissa and Allen, it was so great hearing from both of you at once! It was a blessing to me. Please do some more videos together!

Eeeek It’s Allen again! Love seeing all these apologists helping each other and us! Such wisdom and humility so, so grateful for these people and their commitment to their ministry! Xx

@lunasgma7546

Жыл бұрын

I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not.

That was sooo good Melissa. I will get me a copy. You are so good at interviewing people 🎉

I’m looking forward to listening to the audiobook. I preordered it & am waiting most impatiently for June 13 when it drops into my library. 😆 ❤ I signed up for the class too even tho I’m just finishing my hermeneutics & exegesis class. 😃

Knowing that there are many people who have experienced church/spiritual abuse with these gifts, I definitely think this could be a balanced way to distinguish the differences. It is a lot easier to swing from one end of the pendulum to the other and just say forget about it, but it takes a lot of understanding (and prayer) to be able to decipher what's true and what's not. I think I may just have to purchase this book for my own. Thanks!

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

... if Melissa is endorsing the book...then it is the Pendulum swung to a Faithless , Mental perspective of the Topic. Melissa only believes in what she can see & feel - not a good situation for a Bible Teacher ! ... Pointing out the Mistakes of others is the Easiest thing in the World to do ; but this is a Spiritual Principle that our Lord wants us to become Proficient with : Melissa is incapable of getting this working in her life ... so she sweeps it under the Church Carpet instead and claims to be Superior ...

Thank you so much. This is one of the best interviews I have ever seen.!❤

Thank you so much Melissa and Allen for this interview, God bless you.❤🙏

Thank you for this interview Melissa and Allen. I just pre-ordered your book “Misled”. Can’t wait to read it myself. Blessings from Australia 🇦🇺😌

YES!! "faith in my faith" as opposed to faith in what Jesus has accomplished for us on the Cross, AND via His Resurrection.

@alsoncaramel4347

Жыл бұрын

What if your faith is Jesus.

I can relate to Alan's experience sooo much. It's uncanny, which makes me feel so sad. Thank you both for discussing this! What a great interview 💖

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

... There is a way to Teach meaningful insights into this Topic... but these Ministers don't get there : they have a " Throw the Baby out with the Bath " mentality just because there are problems ; but there is an way to do it right - which they know nothing about...

@rachelhayhurst-mason7846

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdelopst4699 what is that way? I'm sure we would all be helped if you would share it 🙂

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

... don't know if I getting thru anymore ; a few things I have posted have disappeared . Melissa has a history of Censoring folks that don't agree with her ...

@rachelhayhurst-mason7846

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdelopst4699 I'm sure if what is said is respectful it would be ok. Melissa asks people to disagree if they have good evidence. Being reasonable goes a long way.

@jamesdelopst4699

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelhayhurst-mason7846 ... Melissa & other " Truth Tellers "... get their Following and Subscribers by appealing to people who are Chronic Complainers about the Church , Darling... people show up here mostly to gripe & Murmer about something that happened to them in a Church . She isn't looking for Reasonable people to say intelligent things - they would put Melissa out of Business . " Truth Tellers " like her are notoriously known for having Thin Skin when it comes to Critism : " they can Dish it out ... but they can't take it ! " is the Secular saying of who they are...

This was an excellent discussion!! I will definitely be getting this book. God bless you both. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Melissa, You are a skilled and articulate interviewer! May your channel flourish and continue to inform those with ears to hear!

Hi thanks. Melissa, thank you for your channel and thank you for bringing Allen, another favourite, on to your channel. Such a blessing. We learn so much, thank you.

When I was 16, I received a prophetic word that changed my life and healed me of the depression I was experiencing. I went to a church that was hosting a minister who would pray over individuals and, without knowing anything about them, speak scriptures that the Lord would give him for them. Before he started, he said, "I won't have time to pray over everyone here, so if you hear me say a verse that speaks to you and encourages you, receive it from the Lord." I was feeling hopeless about the future on account of my ASD, believing I had no choice but to live in isolation and dependency. When I heard him pray Jeremiah 29:11 over someone else, I thought, "Okay, God. I know it's trite, but I trust that You do know the plans You have for me. I receive this verse from You." Shortly after, the prophetic minister came up to me and asked if he could pray for me. The first verse he spoke over me was, guess what? Jeremiah 29:11! That was when I realized, "God, this is definitely from You!" The last verse he gave me was Psalm 84:11, which reads, "no good thing does He withhold from those whose walk is blameless." But from the way he said it, I knew God was speaking directly to me: "no good thing will _I_ withhold from _you."_ God used the words of this man to speak directly against the unspoken lie that I was believing that only He knew about. In that moment He gave me the confidence I needed to face life, knowing that being neurologically atypical does not make me a lesser recipient of His blessing.

@rebanelson607

Жыл бұрын

I'm autistic and I am so glad you were helped. God bless you!

@SMaamri78

Жыл бұрын

Well, it’s pretty simple. The whole Bible is God speaking to us.

@sarahh.8579

11 ай бұрын

@@SMaamri78 True, but that was the scripture that she needed to hear at that particular time.

That sort of phony stuff (slain in the spirit, tongues elitism, phony "prophetic utterances") gives such a bad name to the genuine that people throw out the baby with the bathwater. "He who has my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat?" "Quench not the spirit. Despise not prophecies. Test all things; hold fast to that which is a good." As a good berean, doing all things decently and in order, with a view to edifying, etc.

@FerrisArmstrong

Жыл бұрын

The true f ith is spiritual and not carnal. Everything you see, hear, touch, taste, smell and reason is also carnal. When believers read the word they are reading THEIR opinions rather than the actual truth. The true word MUST be individually received from above and it must be received as perfect certainty or else it too will be an opinion. Certainty is not an opinion. Opinions can be ok temporarily but certainty is from above and is forever. Reasoning requires work but certainty requires belief in ☝️

Thanks to both if you! You're a real blessing to the kingdom of God!

Prophecy was in existence because there was no written word! It was how they got the word out. Now we have the word of God…it’s all we need!

@BlessedVivi

Жыл бұрын

Wore of God is prophecy

Thank you for the discussion very well communicated.. . Be blessed 🙌🙌 Pastors Allen and Melissa

I did enjoy that like always, thank you Melissa so very much love you, still praying for you and family, keep straight path.

Preordered! Thank you both. A couple of my ultimate fave Christian KZreadrs to learn from. ❤❤❤❤❤

Thank you Melissa and Allen for a great discussion on this ever-increasing and misleading doctrine in the church. ❤

Excellent! Two of my absolute favorite voices on the Internet! Thank you both for helping equip Christians, and for advancing salvation for those not there yet! God bless you both abundantly!

Aw, Yay - I LOVE Allen Parr’s channel!!! Blessings to you both and all who watch your channels. 🎉❤😊😊😊

Thank you❤ your channel has been very helpful to me❤ god has blessed me through you. 🙌 keep spreading the truth❤

GREAT INTERVIEW!! Congratulations on all the hard work you put into this book, Allen! Already ordered it!

@l.augustinekhalafala5237

Жыл бұрын

I didn't realize it was out.

My two favs together. Can’t wait to read the book and see how Jarin navigates the truth. Thank y’all.

Thank you Allen and Melissa for sharing such an important topic. 😊

Excellent video Melissa! Will be ordering Allen’s book!

Thank you Melissa and Allen. Blessings from South Australia 🇦🇺.

A book like this is very needed. Thank you.

This is great!!! Tks Melissa and Allen!!

Love you two! Thank you BOTH for ALL that you do for free here on KZread! May the Lord bless you for your humble faithfulness to Him and Truth! ❤️❤️🙏🙏 Allen, I'm off to buy your book!

Always love your collaborations!! Yes Allen thx so much for writing this book!! ❤️ 👏🏾🙌🏾

I was also taught, "If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense lest you end up in nonsense". I think that was Dr. David Reagan of Lamb & Lion Ministries. Every new believer should have your book to help guide if there is nobody available to guide.

I really enjoyed this interview. Thank you.

I was not biblically literate when I came to faith. I attended, and was discipled in a charismatic church, and yet I can remember multiple doctrines taught to me where I had to stop and pause and recognize that what I was being told was not true. *Basically, the lens I have always used to view doctrine is, “Does this exalt Jesus, or is it exalting man?”* Gradually, the Lord led me out of the charismatic church - if for no other reason than the fact that that particular branch of the church has gotten very lukewarm in its seeker-sensitivity. Conversely, two of my best friends who have been walking with me through thick and thin, *who are biblically literate* absolutely refuse to acknowledge the garbage taught in the charismatic church. How does that happen?!

Just got my book yesterday, and I can't wait to dive in! 🙌🏻 You have both helped me find my way out of darkness, new age Christianity to the light & truth.

Can't wait to devour this one, SO MANY BOOKS! SO LITTLE TIME!

Thank you for helping people discover the truth. ❤ God bless you 🙏🏽

I went ahead and bought the book. It sounds like it’ll be a great add to my high school teens curriculum.

Thank you Allen and Melissa! I can’t wait to read this book.

Keep up the good work. Your videos are entertaining and thought provoking. Informative but not boring.

"in every chapter Jaren is trying to find a Bible based church..." I LOL'd so hard I almost spit out my food. every chapter lol, but yeah, it's that hard.

Thanks Allen and Melissa!

I read a book years ago called Spiritual Abuse. Opened my eyes.

One of your best Melissa, thank you.

Melissa and Allen thank you both from New Zealand God Richly bless you and your spouses here in new zealand, especially at my church we have in my worship team an obsession with Hillsong and Bethel and there are times in church when i do not sing the songs but just stand in the presences of God and I even pray for the worship team because since lockdown in 2020, i have watching Christian commentaries saying that bethel and Hillsong are dangerous and how there are some churches who have stopped using their music

The biggest threat is so many christian churches telling so many different things and doing things so differently.

Oouu! This is so relatable, I remember I had to act like I had the holy ghost. No more getting my forehead squeezed to death 😅. Love the transparency.

This is my first comment on KZread ever and I must tell that I have spent and I am still spending hours on this platform. I want to thank you both for this video, my eyes are finally wide open, my prayers for protection of my home are answered. Spirit warned me and He was continuous in His warnings about this but I was blind and ignorant. Pray for me that I save my husband, and my family and point them to real Jesus. God bless you and your families! You're doing great godly work. ❤

This is good. It reminds me of something my pastor says frequently: How do you interpret Scripture? With more Scripture. ❤

Thank you Allen and Melissa for having this discussion over Allen’s new book. As a person who is still sorting out the different paths presented in the Christian churches, I see this as a valuable resource. God bless you both.

Love this episode-thank you!

I love how you both were talking about how to read the bible. I grew up Pentecostal and was never taught how to read the bible and sadly quoted scripture out of context. I would love to be able to help my Pentecostal/ charismatic friends and family, how to read the scripture in context, but they are unwilling to listen 😢.

@143Chelley_Chelle

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I am willing to listen.

@leereeves9435

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I've attended Pentecostal churches, and Reformed churches, and I discovered it's difficult to reason with Pentecostals and Calvinists. One extreme has the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the other extreme has the Doctrines of Grace. Sometimes Christians will go from one extreme to the other.

@scottwalker7982

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You want a graceless God?

@valeriehancock1724

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@@scottwalker7982 not sure what you’re trying to say..

@scottwalker7982

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@@valeriehancock1724 Sorry Valerie. I was commenting on what leereeves9435 had said.

What a great show,the content was bang on target for today's church. It spoke volumes to me. Thank you Alan and Melissa 🙏🙏🙏

Very well presented!! Loved the simplicity. I have always said that a truly smart individual can present the truth in terms that anyone can understand. From listening to this, I think that may have been accomplished in his book. I pray that the right people get their hands on a copy and God opens their eyes and they get set free!!! 🙏

So glad to see Allen Parr on your channel! I really get a lot from his channel too.

Thank you. Both of you. God bless you.

Love you both! God bless you two!

The church in Canada is falling apart because it is not distinguishable from the rest of the world. We are trying to correct that course and bring the church back into sound biblical teaching. Thank you Allen and Melissa for your efforts!

A great combination- Allen and Melissa! I learn so much from the two of you, it’s great to see you together. Thank you for setting me straight in so many ways and helping me mature in my faith.

I just downloaded the book on audible and can't wait to get into it. Thanks for sharing this information.

The first few verses of James clearly show we will have trials in this life and instructs us how to view them on a spiritual level.

Great interview and so helpful!

Thank you, both.