Great video. I tried other explanations from other people, but this was by far the easiest to understand.

These are exactly the type of videos I was looking for. They help me understand the fundamentals. Thank you!

Dear good sir. Thanks for the explanation video, this is what I've been searching for for a while.

This guy is a really good teacher! He breaks everything down so well and comprehensively. Thanks Man. So helpful and your Bottom bracket vid is EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is probably the easiest to understand explaining pull ratios while mix matching drivetrain! Thanks for sharing!

Phenomenal! If only all KZread content was this well presented and informative. Thank you

For Shimano front derailleurs, road and mountain have different cable pull ratios.

@BartAppleseed

3 жыл бұрын

The best technical bike youtuber, Thanks for the info!

@BenjaminVallejera

3 жыл бұрын

i see. so i can use my 105 10spd RD on any MTB shifter provided it's 10spd as well? or i can go 11speed shifter & cogs using the same 105 10spd? (short cage)

@RJTheBikeGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminVallejera (My comment had nothing to do with rear derailleurs) But , no. Shimano used the same cable pull ratio for most of it's rear derailleurs from 6 speed up. (Early Dura Ace used different ratio). That is both road and mountain. But then Shimano changed the cable pull ratio on it's mountain rear derailleurs starting at 10 speed. This is just cable pull ratio, mean they will work with the shimano shifters and index correctly. There is also chain capacity, and largest cog. You can use Shimano 105 10spd RD with Shimano 6, 7, 8, 9 speed shifters. They all have the same cable pull ratio. Here is how indexed shifting works: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoGqppONZNSsYag.html

@BenjaminVallejera

3 жыл бұрын

@@RJTheBikeGuy i see. so if i use 9speed shifter, it can only accommodate 9 cogs? or can it shift up to 10th cog? btw, great stuff. im learning more here. You have explained (Without me asking) why my roadbike 10spd tiagra shifter works on a 9spd alivio RD. :)

@RJTheBikeGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminVallejera It would not even be able to shift that last time. That is not even taking into the consideration the indexing.

You’ve just saved me a lot of time, and probably a good bit of money otherwise mis-spent on an incompatible shifter. Brilliant video. Such a clear explanation!

Awesome, just what I needed to know to select a new derailleur.

I wish there were more public school teachers with your style teaching our younger generation.

@johnthebikeguy

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Such an awesome compliment to me! You have no idea!

Hi All, FYI Im running currently - due to crash and death of previous gen RD SLX M670 - SLX M7100 (1x12 model) with 10spd 11-42 cassette and 10spd slx shifter. However, will order - as its cheap as hell - 12spd SLX shifter and Im more than sure it will work flawless - will just leave the smallest gear/click empty by setting cable tension to 3rd from bottom as the lowest gear on my cassette. Still ultimately will upgrade to 11spd 10-50 cassette (sunrace mx8) and will leave only 1 gear/click on shifter "empty". and later when microspline will not be so expensive and more available ( running Bontrager wheelset ) will go to full shimano M7100 12 spd group by adding proper driver and cassette. Cheers

extremely helpful..now I know I can use cheap front derailleur from shimano with any other Shimano shifters

One of the most useful vids on youtube ever. Thanks a lot!

great video im a beginner of fixing up bikes and pairing different shifters with casets so thanks a mil with these kinds of videos

Very informative and very well explained.

Thanks so much for this video. I always encountered so many troubles when I was doing conversions on my bikes. Thanks to you, I can now ensure the compatibily of the different mixing of shifter and derailleurs!!! I don't know if you already have done one, but a video on the groupset Shimano Dura-Ace 7800 would be nice because it is a big revolution in the cycling world (9-10 speeds, 2 pieces cranckset, wierd freewheel... but so beautiful). :-)

You should really do videos more often, they are very informative. They are always Aha! moments for me being an amateur bike mechanic.

@johnthebikeguy

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! I try to make videos no one else has, or could be improved. If I think someone out there has an excellent video, I generally won't copy them.

@colecoleman1499

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnthebikeguy hi John plz check my latest comment. Thanks

Inspired by this and similar vids, I changed the 11-28 for a 11-34 on my Felt CX bike. Used the Road Link and also subbed a 34 tooth chainwheel for the 36. Didn't even need to adjust the chain length. Now I have the 1:1 lowest ratio. The rest is up to me.

That was very good. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share this information.

This would be useful as part of the curriculum taught at school.

my freaking derailleur broke... i just tightened up a wobbly rear wheel and adjusted the brakes so good that angels were crying at how well they were operating.. and then my rear derailleur BROKE IN HALF... im not complaining.. i got some cheesy bread, fell asleep on a bench, woke up, went to another bench, slept on that for a while, woke up then walked like 3 or four hours back home.. had me a gay old time... true story..

Some youtube videos show combinations working pretty darn good despite the math suggest. 11 speed shifter , 11 speed derailleur works with 10 speed cassette.

Note that after this video came out, Shimano released a TYPE-3 *10-speed* 4700 Tiagra RD and shifters. Thus all road 10-speed RD+shifters are compatible with each other.

Question: I have a 10 speed (Dura-Ace) barend shifter being used with a 9 speed mountain derailleur and a 10 speed cassette. However, I keep having trouble with the shifter needing to be moved two clicks to actually move the chain. (Then I have to click back one to align the derailleur. Is this a compatibility issue or a bent hanger or...

@Justinleyte

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Copeck cross compatibility only works up to 9 speed, then all bets are off.

@richietattersall2122

3 жыл бұрын

Change to a 10 speed derailleur, so it's a matched set.

This answered so many questions for me. Thank you!

Cool video and I like your cheat sheet with all the compatabilties/combos. You may want to consider a part 2 to this video with mismatching vintage index components with other brands and non index components. I've successfully meshed non index/friction Suntour Cyclone and Superbe Pro RDs with shimano 7 and 8 sp index DT shifters and the indexing worked fine, so I assume many old Suntour non index RDs have a 1:1 cable pull ratio. Also I've meshed 1st gen. Suntour 6 sp Accushift shifters with Shimano 7sp RDs with 7 sp FWs, so the pull ration on 6sp Accushift is the same as 7 speed Shimano shifters. You can overclick the 6sp Accushift DT shifters to get into the largest FW cog but sometimes it ghostshifts back into 2nd gear if you hit a big bump in the road. These weird combos can come in handy if you're setting up vintage pre 90's bikes with friction shifting and converting to index shifting brifters/DT shifters/barend/grip shift or rapidfire shifters.

I believe the information regarding front derailleur are inaccurate -- for triple 3x9 Road vs MTB pulling cable ratios are similar but not exactly the same. This means that even after careful setup you have some rub somewhere -- in my case I tried to mount MTB FD to match road STI Shimano shifters, and either leftmost or rightmost chain path caused the rub against FD cage.

@WanderABit

5 жыл бұрын

@Yard Sale Dale I wrote about replacing one triple with another triple (it is not doable without converter). And since with triple the rub occurs only on one of the cogs I am not surprised dropping one and going double works.

so IF I'm understanding this correct.. I can take my altus rear derailleur off (7 sp), and slap on a deore (9 sp) and use it with my current shifter and I should be able to set the stops and be GTG? All mtn after all. I'm really looking at upgrading the derailleurs for both my front (a tourney) and a rear (an altus). This seems like it should work? I'd like to go to a twist shifter later from the thumb shifters (I hate the fact that I go up a gear using my thumb and down a gear using index on my right hand, but go up a crank sprocket size with my thumb on left hand and down with index.. they're opposite of eachother). This will probably necessitate swapping out everything in my bars, but as long as I stick with same MFG (shimano) and gear sets (its a 3x7 so I should stick with that) I should be ok?

Excellent video -- this means I can upgrade a claris to a tiagra bit by bit-- great news!

@WKAnonther

2 жыл бұрын

did you do it ? how well does it work ?

Even tough I have alot experience and I'm already familiar with the inner workings of indexed shifting I must say, this is some of best explaining I've ever seen. Well done sir. I actually came here looking for information on wether the 11 speed shifter on 2*10 drivetrain on the Specialized Chisel was a printing error. It would seem its not. I can only guess why Specialized would do run 11sp deore shifters with a 10sp XT derailleur and cassette. Cost efficiency?

Awesome video that clarifies everything, thank you sir.

Why shimano hate us so much? I just found 105 5700 STI it's not compatible with Tiagra 4700 Derailleur because they have different pull cable ratio. And they both are from 10v road rear groupsets.

I NEED HELP I need to find a cheaper alternative to this derailleur.. ALIVIO RD M410 8S Speed MTB Bicycle Rear Derailleur (it was on my GT avalanche 3.0)

Very informative and easy to understand. Thank you!

This is why I use friction shifters only. It just works.

I want to change a broken left speed shifter on the shimano 600 st-6400 I was wondering what is compatible

ok things seem less complicated at the front so let me try to remove all current gray areas in my mind by asking my question like this... I am currently running a Shimano Claris R2000 entry level groupset. If I purchase a Shimano Ultegra R8000 Crankset and older Shimano Ultegra 6800 front shifter will my existing Claris front derailleur work flawlessly with the new crankset and older ultegra 6800 front shifter?

VERY clear and informative! Thanks John, I learned a lot of valuable information. Good thing YT has a function, cause I WILL need to re-visit some details. 😉

need your help, i really fcd ! I got a gravel "locked" in Sram Apex... I changed rear derailleur for Deore M6000 (MTB) , the cogs was Sram too, i changed today for a chinese cog, 11-28 10v. Mi shifters are STI Hidraulic Tiagra 10V. When i shift the gears, the pull ration doesn't work well, its like 2 shifts for one gear up. Well, in short, I have 10v in shifters, and in cogs, and the derailleur, also 10v, but just reach 8 gears, sometimes. I need to replace de derailleur for a Tiagra Road ?

@porcupineconcepts2804

2 жыл бұрын

You need a derailleur matching the shifters. Ten speed mountain is totally different than any road setup is compatible with. Tiagra is a weird group - when they bumped up to 10 speed (after this video was made), they changed their whole tiagra system to be compatible only with Tiagra. It’s effectively an island onto itself - all alone in terms of compatibility. If you want your shifters to be compatible, you’ll have to dump the m6000 rear and use a 10s tiagra rear. Nothing else is compatible.

@porcupineconcepts2804

2 жыл бұрын

BTW, I’m John the Bike Guy commenting under the name of a different channel. Normally I don’t respond to questions with answers contained in the video. But Your system of Tiagra isn’t in there because it wasn’t made when the video was made, so I made an exception.

Thanks this video really answered my questions about shifters thanks

so a type 1 XTR read deraileur XTR 10 v is not compatible with an XTR DynaSys XTR shifter 10 v ??? my only doubt!! (i tested the 10v XTR dynasys with a SRAM x9 and worked flawlessly thats weird)

I stumbled on your video because I encountered a problem with my bike conversion. I was handed a trek 7300 multitrack in very good condition but I wanted to convert it to dropbars. So I did. I bought a microshift R8 3x8 shifters. I did not encounter any problem with the right shifter and rear derailleur (shimano stx RC) but I do have a problem between the left shifter and the front derailleur (shimano Nexave). If I can get a smooth shift from small ring to middle ring, the middle to large shift does not work. If I fix the middle to large ring, the middle to small shift will be affected and won't work. I just thought they might work probably they are not compatible. I did not make a very thorough research about microshift and shimano nexave compatability. Currently I just use the middle ring and don't shift to small or large ring.

My bike has sram sx4 shifters and rear deralier I got a sram x4 shifters will it work with sram SX4 deralieur

Would a shimano altus rd-m310 derailleur and a shimano altus sl-m310 shifters be compatible together? I'm replacing my old shifts and derailleur and shifters but I can't find the original parts.

Can i use Shimano Claris road STI 8 speed shifters with vintage 7 speed shimao 1051 group?

Thank you for knowledgeable and helpful insight

Finally the video that i was looking for. Now, I have a Deore XT 11s cassette and 11s rear derailleur. Can I use an 11 speed ROAD shifter? I am building a cross bike.

@thrjygdcmnbfdzfsa

6 жыл бұрын

Rex nope, 11 speed MTB and road stuff has different pull ratios, so it won’t work.

@adireitinho

6 жыл бұрын

Bummer... I was thinking of replacing my Ultegras Shifters/lever set for a flat bar and separate XT shifters Hyd Breake levers... :-(

My alivio deraileur broke. What is My best option for new deraileur upgrade based on the following setup with V-fire shifter? 3 x 8 speed with the Shimano cs-hg30-81 cassette in rear Front cog large 42. 24 small cog Total chain capacity is 37 if I did my math right. I have the Shimano St-ef50-8r 8 and L Speed V-brake shift trigger/brake assembly. The only markings I could identify on my chain is 'narrow' and Z

Can I use a Alivio M3100 rear derailleur with and 8 speed derailleur cassette and shifters? All Shimano.

Will the SL-M770 (3x9) front shifter work with the FD-T8000 derailleur, FC-M770 22-32-44T crank and C9 CN-7701 chain?

Can I have Deore LX (2009 model i think) 9 speed rear derailleur on road bike? And can i put those road bike shifters (that come integrated in a brake) on it and use it normally? I have option to buy a good bike for ~200$ but it doesn't have road bike drop bars, its a flat bar. And on the rear it has Depre Lx 9 speed derailleur which i think is for mountain bikes.

i have a dura ace 2 x 11 road drop bar set up. how to convert to flat bar? which shifters to buy?

Thank you John, you answered all my questions.

Great vid! I recently (a week ago) got a road bike with full (2016) Tiagra components, 2x10 12-28t cassette. And also have a (2016) XT-RD and SLX 11-36t cassette on my 2x10 MTB. I've been waiting to got 1x in my MTB , but on the cheap, meaning, wanting to keep if possible on 1x10 by now and just getting a new chairing and a Sunrace cassette. Said that: 1) Can I use the Tiagra 10-speed rear derailleur with the SLX 10-speed cassette? And by that I'll only need to buy a new MTB cassette? By meassuring the full extension of the Tiagra-RD I don't see an issue with the 11-36t cassette, but don't know about indexing and such. Thank you!!

Brilliant explanations, great video!

Does it basically mean that i can use shimano claris 3x shifter on a shimano claris 2x front mech?

Can I use sora r3000 road shifter, alivio RD, with 9 speed alivio cassette 12-36t on my road bike?

I'm considering upgrading a Trek 7300 FX Mountain bike for gravel use, and would like to replace the handlebar with a Bontrager VR-CF Aero handlebars, and use road shifters with the 9 speed LX group. So if I understand correctly, I could use my 105 10 speed (5700) right shifter with the 9 speed LX rear derailleur, provided I upgrade the cassette to a 10 speed one? For the front I will need to change the derailleur in favor a road version fi. a FD-5703?

This Informations are so worthy. Thanks man.

Does this mean that the rear derailleur doesn't matter? If you have matching speeds between the shifter and the cassette, you stay within road or MTB family, and stay within the capacity of the rear derailleur, then you can use any derailleur? I've seen a video where an XT shifter shifts and Alivio derailleur with no problems and no visible modifications.

I’ve been trying for the past five years to figure out what flat-bar road shifters are compatible with my 105 5700 10 sp. rear derailleur. I still don’t have a definitive answer. Best guess is SL-R780 shifters, but they’re impossible to find. Wanting to covert a 2011 road bike to flat-bar. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT SHIFTERS WILL WORK FOR SURE? Many thanks!

For road bikes, is Tiagra 4700 rd and fd compatible with SRAM 2x10 brake/shifters?

@johnthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

No. 4700 rear is only compatible with 4700 shifters. It’s an oddity that was created after I posted this. Definitely not compatible with SRAM.

@name-ug5xq

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnthebikeguy follow up question: is 105 r7000 rd and fd compatible with SRAM 2x11? If so, is there a difference between 105 r7000 fd and 105 5700 fd? As I can only observe that the 5700 one is a clamp on, while the r7000 is a braze on and my frame is currently a clamp on style, so I'm thinking of just going with the 5700, but I'm worried that it might have some compatibility issues

@johnthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@name-ug5xq no road shifter made by SRAM is compatible with Shimano Components. Mount style has no effect on shifter compatibility. You have to use SRAM derailleurs.

What about an 8spd shifter with a 7spd cassette (Shimano)? I could not get a proper adjustment. It kept missing and hanging in the X and Y cogs (3rd and 2nd gear respectively.) I swear I read that the 7spd and 8spd had just the slightest bit of pull ratio difference (sorry, too lazy to look it up). So I put a 7 speed shifter on and it shifts perfect now.

Great video, my current derailer SRAM x3 has 1:1. Shimano has 1:7. So If I plug in Shimano derailleur I would need to change shifters as well right?

@johnthebikeguy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Not compatible at all. Maybe the front you’d get lucky with, but definitely not the rear.

So John, i was thinking of going flatbar on my GT Grade. Would install a flat bar, a pair of XT 2x11 shifters and a pair of Shim Hyd MTB levers. would keep the 8000SGS derrailleur the cassette and the brake calipers. Can´t ? Got a bit confused with the MTB/Road uncompatability, and no 11 speed covered... Sorry, not english so i may have lost a few details in translation...

Sorry for asking something that maybe you already answered in the comments. But I just want to know. I can use my Dura Ace 7800 front and rear derailleurs of I swap the from 7800 shifters to the 6700/ 5700 (105) /ultegra shifters ?

I found a bike in trash,thought I could save it ,24" anyway the rear derailleur was all bent ,chain rusted,so I had some shimano derailleurs ,put one on it rubs the freewheel ,no b adjustment.I sized the new chain to old one and checked sizing from large front ring to large back cog.it seemed ok .shpould I put a long cage ? or what.help

This answered some questions and quelled some rage. Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong,my shifter has only 6 clicks for its matching tourney derairer 7 speed,it only has to click 6 speeds to reach all 7 gears .

@Dopeassbikevids

3 жыл бұрын

#2 I have a new bike with a shimano derairer 6/7 speed,my matching shifter has only six clicks,it seems that's all the clicks needed since there is no natral gear,right?

Current set up on a Bianchi Lepre Mini Velo : 7 speed cogs, friction shifter, single chain ring currently using Shimano Tourney Rear Derailleur. Will a Shimano Deore XT RD-M8000 GS Medium Cage Shadow Plus 11 Speed Rear Derailleur work with the set up considering I am using a friction shifter for the rear? Will the chain fit?

John- very informative video. My question is that I want to swap out my wife's 105 11-27 cassette to a cassette with 32 as the largest cog. She has a 105 short cage derailleur and a 105 50/34 crank. 1) will this derailleur work the larger cog cassette? 2) if not can I mix Deore, SLX or other Shimano cassettes and derailleurs to get the smaller 32 cog gear we want? thanks Another John

Can I upgrade a Tourney TY300 to an Alivio M4000 without changing anything else on my bike? I've got a Trek Marlin 5 (2020 model, 3x7 speed) with a TY300 in both front and rear derailleur. Thanks!

So I have a 9 speed cassette and am running 3x up front on a gravel bike. As long as I have 3x9-speed road shift/brake combo, I can run a 10 speed rear derailleur? The problem is I need a new rear derailleur and not many 9 speeds on the market? Also does it have to be long cage? Also can it be a mountain bike derailleur? Thanks for any advice!

As I understood the outlier front was specifically the Dura Ace FD-7900 and the earlier 10 speed version FD-7800 was compatible with everything else?

Great video! There's a small change since this video was made: Tiagra 4700s are not compatible with any 10-speeds. It's an odd exception and I'm not sure why Shimano changed the pull ratio in that model.

@johnthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

Gary Ross Yes - but when I made the video, 4700 Tiagra wasn’t out yet. I’m assuming they messed around with it to be unique like the 11 speed stuff.

@garyross3453

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnthebikeguy I've edited my message!

@MrKipperfish

7 ай бұрын

@@johnthebikeguy The first 4:30 of this video is brilliant. It's sometimes a struggle for people new to compatibility to grasp that a derailleur has it's own ratio (especially people who haven't upgraded their bike since the 9 speed days). Bookmarking this video for future use. The compatibility section is a little out of date, as is to be expected. If you ever feel like remaking this video, with some updated info and to correct that little bit about front der. cable pull ratios, that would be awesome! As for Tiagra 4700, it uses what you've termed Type 3 rear derailleurs: same cable pull ratio as 11 speed road (same as 10 speed GRX, 11 speed GRX, and it would appear 12 speed GRX as well). Tiagra and 4700 just have their own unique cable pull length at the shifter.

Hi John, your video has ended my frustration while i was trying to fit new M8000 11s rear derailleur with old shifter 9s. There is new reason to be frustrated. I have a bike frame with TOP Pull system and series M8000 doesn't have in any front derailleur which support 3x11 with top pull. Is there any chance that I can use new M8000 shifter with old 3s derailleur or they change something too in front shitfer too ?

Hey John, I have a Shimano 11speed Deore M5100 group set. However, I'm having trouble getting it to shift to the tallest gear (50 tooth cog) and the shifter breaks inside requiring me to open it up and set it up again to function somewhat. Can I replace the shifter to a Shimano 12 speed Shimano Deore SL-M6100-R so I have an extra trigger pull to hit all the gears? Would I run into any problems? If so, what do you think they would be?

Thanks John for the video! That's the most understandable information which I've ever gotten! But,John, I have few questions which are very important for me! 1. are there any uncertainty in the work of the 9sp derailleur with the 10sp transmission components(especially cassete and shifters) which can influance to its or other mechs in the future negatevally and result in faster wear and tear details of a transmission (it's really important because I'll build and prepare the bike for realy long travel and there should not be any mistakes) ? 2. can I use the "Shimano XT RD M772 9 sp shadow", not an old shimano derailleur like the "Shimano XT RD-M771 9sp"( I've heard "Shimano XT RD-M771 9sp" has the same pull ratio as "shimano road dura ace bar-end shifters", but "Shimano XT RD M772 9 sp shadow" has not) ?

Hi Thank u for the explanation do for my 7 speed Shimano sprite beach cruiser to upgrade to 8 speed 1. 8-9 speed shifter 2. 9 speed crankset 3. 8 speed derailleur ( altus)?

Great stuff! I have a 3x8 gears and I want to know if a 10/11 speed RD will work even if my shifter and cogs are 8 speed? Thanks

I have a Specialized Allez with a Shimano Claris groupset. Currently, it is equipped with a Sunrace 11-32 8-gear cassette. I am about to change the wheelset and considering having a new cassette and chain. Considering that Shimano and SRAM are compatible in general, will a SRAM PG830 cassette work well with my Shimano Claris derailer? Thanks.

@johnthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, exact same spacing. As long as you’re not changing the # of cogs, everything is good. Campagnolo is the one to be careful of using mixed brands.

question : hello, can we use a shimano acera 6 speed mtb derailleur (big clevis) with a shimano 105 style 6 speed road bike lever. according to your very beautiful report I have the impression that yes but I can be wrong not being of English language thank you in advance ! merci d'avance !

Great Video! Some update would be nice! The Shimano Tiagra 4700 is 10 speed, however it is not comapible with any other 10 speed systems, as far as i know.

@johnthebikeguy

4 жыл бұрын

András Sebestyén Tóth Yes, 4700 series is different, and wasn’t common or even in production when I made the video.

great explanation! it seems that my plan will not work. i currently have an 8speed claris rd and someone sell me his old school 10speed 105sti where the cable is not tucked under the bar tape. my friend has an extra xt rd which is 11speed, and told menits not dynasis. if i buy a 10speed cassette, will it work?

Hi there John. I'm looking for a answer to my question. But I can't really find a answer for it. Then I found your video. Nice video btw. I have maybe stupid question. I have 10 speed Dura- Ace 7800 complete groupset on my bike. I want now to swap the shifters with the modern ultegra shifters with hidden cables beneath the handlebar tape. Which model or generation of this Shimano family will work for me?

@johnthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

You’d need a newer 105, Ultegra, or dura ace 10s shifters - they have the cable underneath. Or, buy 11s road components (shifters and rear derailleur). Your wheel probably isn’t compatible with 11s road cassettes however. Anything made for shimano, road, 10s and has the cables underneath will work. Tiagra 10s won’t be compatible.

Thank you for this infomation.

So I have a older bike given to me.. it has sram max comp grip,shifter, a acera x derailleur and Altus front gears.. will these work together I’m not having much luck..if not which shifters do I need thanks

Can I use a Shimano 9speed Alivio RD-M4000 with a Shimano SL-M310 7 speed shifter. Don't know what the pull ratio is with the new shadow RD's. Also is it ok to run a 9 speed RD with a 7 speed chain or will thier be issues. Thank you.

But did the pull ratio and the cogs change through the years? Because if it didn't I can use rx100 9s cassette, rx100 crankset, with new sora derailleurs and shifters Basically everything of the rx100 can be swapped with new sora?

So is a 11 speed road shimano shifter compatible with a shimano 10 speed mountain rear mech ?

@rasmusahm276

3 жыл бұрын

Thats What i need to know to

@stuartcareless9550

3 жыл бұрын

@@rasmusahm276 if you find anything out let me know and I will do the same by replying back here

I noticed the Shimano Tourney TZ500 I was about to buy says "SIS index". Is it possible those aren't friction shifters? or maybe I'm misunderstanding "index"? IDK but I feel like simple lever pull designs should be more advanced, and capable of adjusting any and all gear ranges. The derailleur should be responsible for all the complications of pulling a cable. It's very odd to me that people consider a lever pulling a cable "retro" or "vintage". Seems kind of like calling water a vintage drink

@johnthebikeguy

3 жыл бұрын

Indexed means it’s indexed - which is the opposite of friction

Helpful video, although DynaSys I / MTB10 works with DynaSys II / MTB11, despite the initial information.

I've a 10 speex xt rear mech with clutch on a 9 speed cassette pulled by 11 speed slx shifter and it works pretty good in till I put the clutch on and then the shifter won't pull the derailleur properly, is this due to pull ratio? Or do my clutch need serviced? Any help or advice welcome

@stinkyfinn6977

3 жыл бұрын

Fixed it😀

So the 6600 6700 7800 and 7900 are all compatible? Irregardless its FD or RD?

Can I use 9 speed Altus Shifter in 9 speed Alivio derailleur? Thanks.

I'm cheekily using a type 2 shifter with a type 4 derailleur!

Got a bit thrown off on your explanation at 8:00 . Could I use a 9s shimano cassette with a 9s shimano mtb rear derailleur with 10s Shimano road shifters? The only difference between 9s and 10s cassettes would be less gear range and not having to block out 1 gear on the 10 speed cassette. Let me know if there is something im missing.

If i combine: 9s rear derailleur (shimano) and 9s shifter (Shimano) with a 8s Cassete will it work?

I’ve just purchased a SRAM x4 rear derailleur and my shifter is a shimano altus st-ef51 for 8speed... will it work? Cheers

Dear sir according on this diagram is it possible to work a xtr rd-m972 Derailleur ( 9 speed) with 11-46t cassette and 10 speed shifter with an extender or not