You burned the Ghost. You stepped on the Roach. You dropped the Soap. And now, you will pay the Price.

@mysanity_islow

Жыл бұрын

Overused comment..

@mouslikk

Жыл бұрын

So funny

@lorddude123

Жыл бұрын

This is so cringe I now have cancer AIDS thanks

@RedHugs

Жыл бұрын

😂

@paulmaximillianrivero5068

Жыл бұрын

Nice line

When Shepherd betrays us in 2009 = emotional and angry. When Shepherd betrays us in 2022 = General Shepherd left the Discord.

@r.octavoc.r

Жыл бұрын

2009: Do not Trust Shepherd 2020: Do not Trust Adler 2022: Do not Trust Shepherd Again

@taboret3280

Жыл бұрын

He left like my father left me

@r.octavoc.r

Жыл бұрын

@@taboret3280 Why did you say that

@PerryKobalt

Жыл бұрын

@@taboret3280 Dang that's why how he never find a milk

@christophertoledo5161

Жыл бұрын

I felt like joining Shadow Company badass can betrayed against task Force 141 and sabotaged Mexican special forces and they don't care they're against different type enemies in Mexico or Afghanistan right now they have skills Shadow Company can undercover war crimes like they can using on Terrorism Task Force 141 soap ghost on terror war list most wanted on earth making it think they did it for killing citizens and that's how General Shepherd has Special operations counterstrike Call of Duty MWII 2022

The new Shepard makes me appreciate just how bold and incredible the original MW2 was. I doubt we'll ever see a game like that ever made again.

@Epsilon-18

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The new version was a lot more anticlimactic and predictable.

@juanin200

Жыл бұрын

@@Epsilon-18 It was only predictable because of the original MW2, as soon as we heard Shepherd's name we knew betrayal was coming. And while the original may've been more impactful to see Shepherd taking matters into his own hands, this story is very well written and it's taking more time between betrayal and hunting Shepherd down

@hamzamalik6177

Жыл бұрын

*FETCH ME THEIR SOULS!*

@orly780

11 ай бұрын

durr old good, new bad.

@outrider425

10 ай бұрын

@@juanin200“very well written „😂 yeah sure

The transition of Graves name going from blue to red after saying "Shepherd sends his regards" really added a feel to it.

@missmoanypants

10 ай бұрын

GOOD EYE! I didn’t catch that.

@b3ans4eva

10 ай бұрын

I loved the facial capture/animation on Graves during that scene.

@jcwashington1088

10 ай бұрын

"Is Graves the bad guy now or somethin?" My brain: "Nah his tag is blue-" *changes to red* "Ah shit"

@cheddarlamp

9 ай бұрын

yes they do really good on those i saw a couple others as well

@johanna_sfmb2975

9 ай бұрын

Thats an insane detail, damn

MW2 in 2009: Shepherd betrayed us MW2 in 2022: When is Shepherd gonna betray us

@IntrepidIanRinon

Жыл бұрын

MWII 2022: Shepherd burned us.

@novemberalpha6023

Жыл бұрын

Have to trust someone to be betrayed. I never did in MW 2022.

@idontknow164

Жыл бұрын

I would have been more surprised if he *didn't* betray them.

@travisrees8939

Жыл бұрын

Now he's just hiding under a rock somewhere

@AADP

Жыл бұрын

After smocking his habano in Mw3, Price said to himself it was all wrong, it was bad. He raided area 51 and travel back in time to make everything all right, thats how this new MW exists

Devs decided to nerf Shepherd betrayal as to not give us emotional damage and trauma to the new generation like they did to us in 2009 Edit: How did I get so many likes? The MWII (2022) General Shepard is what realistically can happen in real life and man MWII (2009) Shepard betrayal was one that should be made into a freaking movie

@eddie9948

Жыл бұрын

still remember the tears after re playing the game a while back.

@bl5533

Жыл бұрын

The Graves betrayal scene was the replacement for that 😂

@diegoandrade467

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t have been the same. Beyond that his betrayal had little consequences since it’s dealt with during the last 30 minutes of the game. We don’t see the damage shepherd caused, MW3 is all about Makrov. This betrayal will likely have more consequences and more of a story to tell.

@paleofolk

Жыл бұрын

@@bl5533 i loved graves

@paleofolk

Жыл бұрын

@@diegoandrade467 i already cant wait for mw3

The original MW2 betrayal is more memorable, but the detail with the names going from blue, to yellow, and then red as the dialogues go is really cool.

@DylanJamrozy-jb7sr

7 ай бұрын

I remember bungie had that in halo 3..

@ownlydown5933

6 ай бұрын

Idk why. But i find it funny it takes as little as a Name tag going from blue to red makes people go. OMFGGGGGG THAT WAS SIIIIICK YOOOO 😂

@techypriest7523

6 ай бұрын

Because they purposefully lowered everyone's expectations to that, then charge 80 bucks@@ownlydown5933

@noproblemmovers

6 ай бұрын

@@ownlydown5933 I agree. It's actually kind of sad this is the best the new MW2 has to offer. Changes in font color xD

5:33 Haha clever Devs "Shepherd burned us" The attention to detail is just amazing.

@shlattwidow3109

10 күн бұрын

Was looking for this comment

The pure chad energy in Ghost's "Are you threatening us?" words of a man who is 100% in control.

@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent

Жыл бұрын

They legit turned ghost into Andrew Tate. Damn you Activision!!

@escapingdarkness6534

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMessiahOfThe99Percentwtf are you talking about

@yesidthecolombian

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent who the f Is Andrew Tate

@huriale1617

Жыл бұрын

@@yesidthecolombian some incel idol

@thebadwolf3088

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent They turned the OG squad into fucking caricatures

5:34 "Shepherd burned us" Yeah he did, in modern warfare ll 2009. Heart breaking. Love this little detail they added. I'm glad they brought back one of the best duos. Definitely wouldn't be the same without them.

@Lolpy.

Жыл бұрын

That went right over my head

@crispystrawhatbeats74

Жыл бұрын

@@Lolpy. Sorry, what don't you understand?

@Lolpy.

Жыл бұрын

@@crispystrawhatbeats74 I meant like when I first played it, I didn’t realize that reference at all.

@raisou9750

Жыл бұрын

Damn, did he know that somewhere in the multiverse, this happened? A variant of him was burned by a variant of Shepherd?

@jcwashington1088

10 ай бұрын

​@@raisou9750*Ghost into the Codverse*

2009: Shepherd betrays you and leaves you in despair and misery 2022: Shepherd's betrayal is no worse than your snake of a homie who owes you 20 bucks

I prefer old shepherd and just the older games in general. They really did a great job of making the cod games feel like ridiculously over the top action movies and I always really enjoyed that about the series.

Played both and nothing in gaming history made me feel the way I did in the original when ghost said no then took a round to the chest . It was a boys to men moment

@desertfoxxx98

Жыл бұрын

It's a game.

@WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo

Жыл бұрын

@@desertfoxxx98 Said the mf named desertfox

@TweekLudwig

Жыл бұрын

@@desertfoxxx98 Yes, but that game made our childhoods, and if you're attached to a character, even for a day's worth of time, seeing them get killed in front of you in-game rather than a cutscene, much more having just been betrayed, is gonna mess your day up, especially as a kid.

@thebadwolf3088

Жыл бұрын

@@desertfoxxx98 Is it? Holy fuck, I thought it was real life!!!!!11!!!11!!!!!!1!!!!

@brayammiranda8253

Жыл бұрын

Man

Shepherd's betrayal in MW2: 😭 Shepherd's betrayal in MWII: 😠

@endlessfreedomful

Жыл бұрын

Shepherd's betrayal in MW2 2009, super evil, unhuman, diabolic plan Shepherd's betrayal in MWII 2022: just a malpractice

@chibiromano5631

Жыл бұрын

on the brightside.. Wagner PMC was in 2022.. so all good

@Hannzzz

Жыл бұрын

cool bet 🥶🥶🥶

@ultimateyeetgod8467

Жыл бұрын

Is was playing the new one and the only thought I can say about him now is You cheeky bastard

@elraptorgamer08

Жыл бұрын

i feel 2022 was more of a "😒"

“Have to trust someone to be betrayed, I never did” That line goes so hard

The reason that the betrayal in the OG MW2 is more impactful is because Shepard is there the entire time from the start, even does the iconic “helping hand” at the beginning of the game. The new one was obvious because we played the original one, most likely they won’t be killing Shepard in the new trilogy because Laswell is gonna make sure he answers for his crimes cause she’s there to handle the interagency politics while 141 gets to do the bang bang shooty stuff going after Makarov

@CoercedJab

10 ай бұрын

Laswells there as PR for the govt lol

@gasmaskhero9300

7 ай бұрын

Laswell is a dogshit character.

@ajaxmaxbitch

7 ай бұрын

Oh boy do I have news to tell you

@zekkekeipa6521

7 ай бұрын

This aged like milk. He died in the most boring and uninspired way possible.

@beejayxl9018

6 ай бұрын

"they wont be killing Shepherd" huh...

At least Ghost stayed alive in this new era

@Kretanus

Жыл бұрын

@ballsniffer2006 Amen!

@HistoryisBoss

Жыл бұрын

@ballsniffer2006 damn straight

@starship2023

Жыл бұрын

Watch now you Jinxed him and He is going to die in the next modern warfare against the battle to kill Sheppard

@Xenkria

Жыл бұрын

Activision ain't will kill a character who every MW fan simp on. Ghost is his "money cow" in this "new era" so they will keep him alive till they make 100 skins and a whole ass season pass about this character. It happened with Woods and Mason, now sadly it's time for Ghost.

@NGEvangeliman

Жыл бұрын

The writers tried to kill him again and reached from the page and lightly grabbed the pen and took it.

Shepherd portrayed in the first MW2 was more of a leader and less of a politician, that's why when he shot ghost it made sense, his whole personality was "Fine, I will get it done myself" but Shepherd in the new MW2 is more like a political leader, and it's more realistic in todays world. Overall both Shepherds are perfectly portrayed by their character types, it's just a matter of which Shepherd a person likes more. I personally perfer old Shepherd

@everythingsalright1121

Жыл бұрын

It kinda reflects the u.s military as a whole these days anyways. Shitty people with lots of medals trying to climb the promotion ladder instead of actually doing the right thing. Look up any video talking about leadership in the u.s armed forces and the comments section is filled with people sharing their experiences with bad officers

@globmonkey200716102

Жыл бұрын

Yeah old Shepard was a lead from the front badass that was pushed over the edge by the things he experienced while new Shepard is just some corrupt Washington suit. Huge downgrade imo.

@quintonbackhand2519

Жыл бұрын

everyone prefers old shepard lets be real, the new ones a joke.

@the_quadracorn

Жыл бұрын

How he behaves is more realistic, but his plan is faaaar less realistic in the new one. Everything about his betrayal is dumb, even by CoD standards

@rookie9028

Жыл бұрын

Gotta give credit to that famous betrayal

Obviously aside from the fact that we have trust issues with shepard due to the original MW 2, i think a massive difference is that the first betrayal is instant (giving you no time to comprehend what just happened) and out of nowhere where as the 2nd one slowly builds up with a bit of conflict then then the shepard reveal then the shooting. The first one is also good because after a massive fire fight you feel like once you see shepard and all the heli's your safe and can relax but then the complete opposite happens. also no one dies in the second betrayal so who really cares 🤷

@ErniLandia

9 ай бұрын

Both of them are good

@joemarielmejia9039

7 ай бұрын

Just goes to show what can happen in wars btw

@thetrashcanman7537

7 ай бұрын

@@ErniLandiano the original is

@jaydena6297

6 ай бұрын

​@@thetrashcanman7537ok?

@thetrashcanman7537

6 ай бұрын

@@jaydena6297 okay shut your mouth

First time I experienced the betrayal in the original MW2, I had to stop the game and go outside and take a 15 minute walk. That moment shook me to the absolute core. Still gives me chills watching it here.

@PlayerAndres

6 ай бұрын

When a game makes you rethink everything you've done, it's a good game.

@bobbyshmurda6094

6 ай бұрын

Doubt a video game scene made you rethink your entire life lmao

@mrzak6556

4 ай бұрын

just a game bud

@swashington942

2 ай бұрын

Hope you got some help bro.

@swashington942

2 ай бұрын

@@PlayerAndres Why in tarnation would you rethink everything you’ve done just because of a game video?

As much as the new betrayal was incredibly watered down it is a much more realistic scenario. 3 star generals are not on active combat missions. They don’t fly into active war zones and they certainly don’t do there own dirty work. It doesn’t pack the same emotional punch but a corrupt general falling off the map and flying to some remote location while ordering assassinations via a PMC is how that would shake out IRL.

@joshuagross3151

Жыл бұрын

We need it to happen in real life for confirmation of that.

@lucacolangelo4063

Жыл бұрын

But at the same time 2022 mw2 had some weird logic

@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuagross3151 None of the cases would then happen.

@joshuagross3151

Жыл бұрын

@@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 That's my point. Saying one is more realistic than the other is stupid.

@akhtaruzzamanjoy8524

Жыл бұрын

Unless you are Russian 3Star general

The subtle color change of Graves going blue to red is nice.

@ghostxav1erttv

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I noticed when playing I was like oh shit something bout to go down

@kevintaylor1823

Жыл бұрын

i really wish i turned subtitles on when i play, woulda loved to experience that. hate subtitles tho i find myself reading instead of focusing on the game

The fact that the MW2 cinematics aren't live action is insane to me. They look unbelievably good

One interesting difference I've noticed in the betrayals is that in the original from 2009 Captain Price isn't really shocked because he claims to have never trusted Shephard. But in the reboot series Price is actually mad and feels back stabbed which implies that he actually did trust Shephard in the new series.

Mustache Shepherd betrayal: Sudden, Impactful, and Heartbreaking Bald Shepherd betrayal: Sad, Impactful, but Foreseen

@AlveolarNasal

Жыл бұрын

We knew he’s gonna betray us not because the plot is obvious but because after the OG MW2 we never trust anyone again.

@ezekiyam3827

Жыл бұрын

@@AlveolarNasal real answer: because his shepherd

@thomsonlim6003

Жыл бұрын

this Shepherd looks like professor X ngl

@emmanuelboateng6303

Жыл бұрын

I like the mustache shepherd

@thefiresworddragon927

Жыл бұрын

Mostly cause we knew it was coming. We knew of it three years in advance.

Love the name color changes in subtitles in 2022, just a powerful little detail. Graves turns from Blue to Red after "General Shepherd sends his regards" And Shepherd turns from Blue to Yellow as his allegiance is in question and goes full Red once he threatens Price with Graves and Shadow

@Gen_ShadowCompany_203

Жыл бұрын

Blue, not green

@SeriousPony

Жыл бұрын

@@Gen_ShadowCompany_203 True that, updated the comment

@gentryhaney4713

Жыл бұрын

Its the little things like that help make a masterpiece

@davidyus7402

Жыл бұрын

Nice one

@BugsyRanuel

Жыл бұрын

Green is the main cast Blue is Allies or our companion Yellow is questionable or an neutral one Red is the baddies

2 things about the new betrayal 1: why the hell couldn’t shepherd just tell 141 the truth about the missiles from the beginning and have them work with shadow company the whole way, at least until they started committing straight up war crimes. 2: why couldn’t Graves and the shadows track the computer used by Price to talk to shepherd, ambush them and slaughter them all at Alejandro’s base if they really had to do that?

@Rekkenze

9 ай бұрын

Shit even better, just buy the land under the Mexican base. Real estate is cheap af and it’s not like the Mexican military isn’t gunna take the bribe from a dude who just blew up a city, their men and kidnapped a cartel leader.

2009: "that's one less loose end" 2022: The General has left the server!

The way the subtitles change color when Graves said, "General Shepherd sends his regards."

@vuxluongw

Жыл бұрын

BOCW does that too. subtle but pretty chilling imo.

@natedlc854

Жыл бұрын

Yeah not subtle at all

@andriyy53

Жыл бұрын

Shepard is like Lannisters Lannisters also send their regards

@JayJay5244

Жыл бұрын

That was the lamest scene ever. You could see it from a mile away… MW2(2022) is nothing compared to the OG MW2

@Aric_EPU

Жыл бұрын

@@JayJay5244 W…W…WAHH WAHH

Everyone’s sad about Ghost dying but nobody says anything about my boy roach. 😭😭

@Jaqi9892

Жыл бұрын

That was sad

@ddarkon1223

Жыл бұрын

What's even worse is that THERE AIN'T NO FUCKING ROACH IN 22

@surake8805

Жыл бұрын

Og ghost was better when he was like in the spotlight but not really you know? Like he was a normal SAS but wasnt, now he Is some weirdo who Is there to act mysteriously and soap Is kind of a cómic relief

@SojuCrumbs

Жыл бұрын

@@surake8805 exactly, that’s what I hate about the new cod. Everything’s gotta be funny. Back in the order cod it’s was almost like it was was realistic

@surake8805

Жыл бұрын

@@SojuCrumbs yeah Man like they Made It More kid friendly, tried to make the "cool guy" be on the spotlight and took the silent protagonist away, now they got some sort of character development but the silent protagonist Made It feel like you were just another soldier, It Made It unpredictable if you would die since you werent some supersoldier like price or soap( in the second game) you were just some SAS soldier

1:36 admit it we all cried in 4k 😭😭

shepherds betrayal in the og mw2 was so personal and devastating compared to the new one where it almost feels like it falls flat of betrayal and more like just being screwed over by a random dude in charge

As i soon i got to see the new Shepard, I instantly I got those flashbacks of betrayal and sort of prepare myself for the bitter end. These new generation of cod players will not understand the trauma that general did to our Ghost and Roach. Speaking of Roach, where the hell is he?

@timothygarnett2911

Жыл бұрын

I'm assuming they might not add him to this remake

@timothygarnett2911

Жыл бұрын

The same can said for ... hold up did we ever see Griggs in the last two... but then Sandman and his crew. So many more that we're missing. Yuri too actually. Maybe the next one will have answers

@cloakerzero.mp3802

Жыл бұрын

Yeah those mfs were the goat, Sandman should of been brought back as well as Frost and Ramirez

@donovanbowman8157

Жыл бұрын

@@cloakerzero.mp3802Didn’t Frost actually live? That joint mission with 141 to save The Russian President and his daughter, Sandman’s team had himself, Grinch, Truck, and Frost, but considering we played as Yuri the whole time, I don’t think Frost was there. They should bring them back thou

@leandrogonzalezescalera

Жыл бұрын

@@donovanbowman8157 i think he Was injured thats why he was'nt there

The Betrayal in MW2 2022 honestly felt like something that could be avoided........

@seanjenkins6947

Жыл бұрын

it was so dumb

@Kou-bz4kb

Жыл бұрын

But hey, $1 Billion more for the company

@yellowbastard196

Жыл бұрын

Well, Los Vaqueros's soldiers were detained by Graves before he tells 141 and Alejandro he took their base, so it can't be avoided

@johntorreto4485

Жыл бұрын

@@yellowbastard196 I think it could have been avoided by not detaining anybody at all....... This is a group backed by a high ranking member of the most powerful military in history. And they didn't have some other Black Site they could have used, or make an outpost like the one during the cruise missile mission?

@yellowbastard196

Жыл бұрын

@@johntorreto4485 Oh, so that's what you meant by avoided

The original just hit so god damn different. You really felt the betrayal.

Throwback to the time I first experienced grief in a video game as if I actually lost a beloved friend

I think they changed the way Shepard betrayed 141 was probably cause the crew was like “listen, the cat’s outta the bag, they’re gonna know anyways so we might as well make shepard’s betrayal a light emotion”

@bread6435

Жыл бұрын

that's what I thought too, it wouldn't hit nearly as hard because it was bound to happen at some point, so it'd be really hard to replicate that kind of 2009 betrayal.

@Darkhawk501

Жыл бұрын

@@bread6435 legit that hit gamers the hardest in the day. Almost every fan would be anticipating his backstab so the company tried to go for another emotional pull.

@xbuster3

Жыл бұрын

Also Activision needs to flaunt their golden goose known as Simon "Ghost" Riley.

@Jabba.Da.Hutt_

Жыл бұрын

@@xbuster3 ong this new Ghost has made COD so much money it’s unbelievable… but I mean you can’t really kill off a character that people love with an insane amount of passion… especially after the old cods.

@eon5323

7 ай бұрын

Nah weak excuse. Good writers could make it work.

In the OG COD: Modern Warfare 2, Shepherd's betrayal killing Ghost and Roach was just a cut of loose ends from the bigger betrayal of manipulating the warfare scene to fabricate WW3, in revenge for a terrorist attack with a nuclear bomb. I like these new games but the stakes seem ant size in comparison.

@lemondropsoda18

Жыл бұрын

For good reason, there probably 18 conflicts like the one we just played through actually taking place and actually being deciding factors as to whether who goes to war, when. I’m sure the developers are told not to put anything that you be inflammatory or super super super American propaganda even though that’s kinda what the game is, at least there aren’t us flags draped in every level of every scene

@nobleradical2158

Жыл бұрын

They are ant sized in comparison, but it makes the story more impactful and closer to realism.

@llolinlaik

Жыл бұрын

@@nobleradical2158 no it doesn't. There was hardly any impact at all except from me being confused over an action that could easily have been avoided. There's no realism in this game save for military jargon just like its always been

@jimmy_x557

Жыл бұрын

Right!?

@crusaderman4043

Жыл бұрын

@@lemondropsoda18 The US flags draped everywhere were atmospheric as fuck

i like how is it done in both games but og one hitted so hard that many cried in that moment

"Thank You General, that's really fuckin helpful. But your a day late and a missle short."

I actually wonder if the MW3 will feature an actual loss- and my prediction would be the loss of Captain Price (since in the old version he is the sole survivor) or who knows, maybe they would all live and kill Makarov (an ideal ending which I doubt it would happen in this version) And honestly now, Shepherd quite lost his tough attitude, like- old version he was fierce, now he be like a wet blanket sending his pups to clean the mess And honestly- one big theory: we would see Frost again in any CoD since him too is a sole survivor of the old series- that would be a banger

@xaviermontano6872

Жыл бұрын

I hope Delta Force makes a return with all 4 original members: Sandman, Grinch, Truck, and Frost. It would be a huge letdown if they werent.

@marioconstantino4050

Жыл бұрын

I think the new modern warfare is on the other verse, so Price on multiverse haha

@bl5533

Жыл бұрын

@@marioconstantino4050 It is a new timeline/universe.

@ScumbagKazuela

Жыл бұрын

I don't think mw3 will be about killing makarov again. Mw2019 ending teased cod4 bad guys and then used them on warzone, most likely makarov will be fought and dealt with on warzone like zakhaev and al assad.

@russelluwarejnr1273

Жыл бұрын

@@ScumbagKazuela i didnt like that idea at all. They should've made games about it so it'd be more entertaining

Price: Have to trust someone to be betrayed, I never did Yuri: *let me introduce myself*

@paleofolk

Жыл бұрын

yuri didnt betray but when it comes to the american team, sandman is my favorite, though i wish grinch and truck were more developed

@ezekiyam3827

Жыл бұрын

@@paleofolk I never said he betrayed, I was trying to point on how suprised he was on Yuri knowing Makarov pretty much feeling betrayed

@paleofolk

Жыл бұрын

@@ezekiyam3827 so youre saying yuri betrayed makarov?

@ezekiyam3827

Жыл бұрын

@@paleofolk "I never did" -Price before saying "Soap *trusted* you, I though *I* could too"

@paleofolk

Жыл бұрын

@@ezekiyam3827 so youre saying soap betrayed ghost for killing Roach?

The most emotional element is that beautiful song when Shepherd betrayed us in orginal MW2

A clear core memory from my freshman year in college. I was at my friend's dorm. All our jaws dropped as we lost the ability to trust

2009: Shepard ignited ww3 2022: all your base are belong to us

The sad part is graves wasn’t evil he was corrupted by shepherd. When the shadow pmcs were transporting the cargo (if you know what it was please tell me in the reply section) the pmcs got attacked, Graves requested for backup but shepherd said they fight with the guns they have. Graves was actually wanting to help them when he said “They need help”.

@musachaudhary6687

Жыл бұрын

They were transporting 3 ballistic missiles. Even the soldiers didn’t know what they were transporting and they were willing to die for it. Even though their general didn’t give a fuck about them. Those solidiers knew graves cared for them, so they tried to warn him, right before all of them were killed including dipalo. Shepherds intent was good but the wrong guys got them.

@itsqlex

Жыл бұрын

Graves isn’t guided by morals, he is guided by money which isn’t something that good people do.

@howdoichangemyusername9802

Жыл бұрын

@@itsqlexthat doesn’t mean, his character should swap personalities. Graves is a whole new character after he betrays us. Just because his motivation is money, doesn’t justify bad character writing.

@itsqlex

Жыл бұрын

@@howdoichangemyusername9802 I don’t find it that hard to rationalize. Initially he starts off by telling them to walk away. It’s only after Soap and Ghost take out a few of his men when he becomes totally hostile.

@howdoichangemyusername9802

Жыл бұрын

@@itsqlex he’s hostile from the beginning. Graves just straight up says he’s taking Vargas’ base and when he naturally objects, Graves brings up Valeria as if to shame him. He doesn’t try to defuse the situation. He’s basically just saying “I have your base. Go away.”

I love how Graves' text color goes from blue to red when Soap mentions calling Shepard.

the old graphics give you a Memories and taste of old games and the modren graphics give you the feeling of the power of games and make you dive into the game without your will

the problem i see is they couldnt just do the same thing twice. the betrayal *had* to be different to work

@Learn-more610

Жыл бұрын

Bro they literally did MW2 not twice but three times. But somehow made it worse.

@juicedbeetlejuice4572

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but it didn’t have to be bad lmao

@brysonkuervers2570

Жыл бұрын

At least the first Shepherd’s made sense, “after today there will be no shortage of patriots, no shortage of volunteers” Meanwhile new Shepherd: “Im ProTeCtiNg mY cOuNtRy”

@Justaguy_21

Жыл бұрын

Honestly what if Laswell betrayed the 141 in MW2 that would have been interesting

@judethenekogamer3651

Жыл бұрын

Thats what a remaster is you touch up the graphics you make some small things fit and make sense you sell it and people buy but no we cant have nice things can we? They ruined the remaster

Ghost in 2009: 🔥*Gets burned*🔥 Ghost in 2022: Shepherd Burned us

@HESHRocketWarhead

Жыл бұрын

Putting it like this, it makes it seem like it took Ghost 13 years to realize that.

kids today don’t know what it was like to see that brutal betrayal with that music… there’s a reason it’s still talked about today. legendary

It's crazy in the classic ghost skin pack on MW2 there's an emblem called "final moments" and you can see the helis reflecting on ghost glasses.

Im not really Surprised that Shadow Company and Shepherd betrayed us... _again_ 💀

@ApolloInfinity

Жыл бұрын

Lmao yep, based on previous experience I was waiting for the betrayal

@paolotorres8537

Жыл бұрын

At least Ghost survives and Price’s reputation is intact.

@lazygod2245

Жыл бұрын

@@paolotorres8537 Fanservice for babies

@micaiahfonken

Жыл бұрын

@@paolotorres8537 for now...

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

@@micaiahfonken *For now...* :/

MW2 2035... Shepard: I'm giving you two weeks notice, clear out your desks.

One small detail that I loved is in the subtitles, once Graves shows he's really our enemy, his name turns red

Honestly, I love the detail when Graves is talking to TF141 and his name in the caption changes from Blue to Red when saying "General Shepherd sends his regards"

Ghost: “SHEPHERD BURNED US!”

The 2022 betrayal and plotline is more realistic than the original. A general trying to cover up a black op and running when he's caught makes more sense realistically than one coming in and shooting two of his soldiers in front of a whole squad of his other soldiers

@thetrashcanman7537

Жыл бұрын

💤

@warfare1101

Жыл бұрын

Those 'other soldiers' are his private PMC force, Shadow Company. Also, Shepherd killed Roach and Ghost because if they saw what was on the ACS module, the world would've found out about Shepherd's involvement with the terrorist attack

@arthurgangnon3504

Жыл бұрын

@@warfare1101 again, realistically it doesn't make sense. A General would never be allowed In the field, first off. He would never have clearance, as he has far too much information that cannot be allowed to be risked falling into "enemy" hands, and generals are involved in the planning of operations and not the actual operations themselves. Generals also DO NOT have their own "personal" squads that they can just command to do whatever they want. It's pretty ridiculous to have to explain any of this to someone. Again, the new game is far more realistic plot-wise. The general would be back in HQ, commanding an operation. If they were dirty, like Shepherd, they'd use an off the books squad like the group in the new game and command them from HQ, and then run if things went south and they were exposed. They would never be in an active combat zone, commanding troops like in the past game. You must be severely mentally deficient.

@thebadwolf3088

Жыл бұрын

@@arthurgangnon3504 some generals DO go to the field

@CalamitiTime

Жыл бұрын

@@thebadwolf3088 and reboot Shepard aint one of them

I love the subtle name color change during the situation with Graves at the gate.

It's nice to know that, no matter what timeline, General Sheppard's plans never make any sense.

Dude the tension when Gaves name turns red in the subtitle is insane. Such a good cutscene

@ricewilson

Жыл бұрын

Bro I peeped that I’m like wtf

The new Shepherd felt like he suppose to lead a certain group to defend the earth against an alien robot invasion

@derpcade

Жыл бұрын

I fuckin love MvA

@megatron2171

Жыл бұрын

@@derpcade monsters vs alien?

@derpcade

Жыл бұрын

@@megatron2171 yeah

@megatron2171

Жыл бұрын

@@derpcade i was referring to transformers tho

@SilverFox-sh6ln

Жыл бұрын

Ooohhh I got the reference

"You have to trust someone to be betrayed, I never did." -Captain Price 2009

that whole sequence in the original was awesome. breaking out of the trap at the house and the running battle to the chopper. 10/10

No matter what anybody will ever say, the Dipaolo mission was a heartbreaker. (8:20)

@ylwwall

Жыл бұрын

why?

@jeko72

Жыл бұрын

Rip Dipaolo

@brysonkuervers2570

Жыл бұрын

@@ylwwall cause it was sad

@musachaudhary6687

Жыл бұрын

No reinforcements, left for dead. Even though that dipalo was a good soldier and tried shouting to graves that they have the radio and so subsequently was killed Reminds me of the jokers dialogue “In the last moments of a person you find out what their really like”

Shepherd really turned from a man with a mustache to his own grandfather lol

Shepherd in MW2 2023 is played by by overlord from MW2 2009. That's hilarious. His voice is uncanny

Fun fact. 22's MW2 Shepard voice actor also voiced "Overlord" in 2009's MW2.

The difference is in the old one, Shephard personally kills you directly whereas in the new one, it's just a 3D chess interpretation than actually doing it.

@danieljennings5393

Жыл бұрын

It makes more sense. He is a general.

@NO-jk3fp

Жыл бұрын

He would probably send someone else to terminate his enemies so yea

@jackp.richardson6415

Жыл бұрын

In the old one he straight up shoots you & throws your body into a fire pit. In the new one he basically gives you a pink slip and fires you.

At least with the remake Ghost survives which is what I like. It's like the 2009 one doesn't exist anymore.

@kovichcrow

Жыл бұрын

He'll die in the next MW and it'll hit harder

@Drengr-Wulf

Жыл бұрын

they are trying to bury their past. cant compare to something that doesnt exist

@salimothman7705

Жыл бұрын

I’ll take it. As long as ghost lives I’ll be fine

@shrimpy_nazeem

Жыл бұрын

@@Drengr-Wulfit’s more realistic. Why would a 3 star general be landing in a active combat zone when he could just watch from a safe distance and let his subordinates do the dirty work

@ColdNorth0628

Жыл бұрын

@@shrimpy_nazeem oh like a single guy playing gun fights with a tank in a boss fight is realistic, or how somehow a whole fucking city is to believe what they saw as a explosion was from a electrical problem and not the obvious fucking missile. Cod is as realistic as rambo was fucking realistic. Get over yourselves, its dumbing down fictional stories for the sake of realism, it is the political intrigue that got star wars boring. It made shepherd boring.

The saddest thing in the second betrayal is that shepherd wasn’t even in it

I was super disappointed by that scene in MW 2 2022. They have no guts to kill any of the good guys, didn't they? The death of Roach and Ghost is what made MW2 2009 so memorable. I understand that many people got upset over that (and maybe found solace in the fact that Ghost is alive now), but that was one of the most legendary moments in gaming.

Shepherd's betrayal in MW2 2009, super evil, unhuman, diabolic plan Shepherd's betrayal in MWII 2022: just a malpractice

@the_quadracorn

Жыл бұрын

... He orders a private military company to slaughter an entire Mexican town for no reason.

@simoneastmond3970

11 ай бұрын

sheperd's betrayal in the 2022 game is just the clip from hangover when bradley cooper calls the bride saying "we fucked up"

5:34 *Shepherd burned us* 🤣🤣

The way shepherd just sits in the helicopter as you and ghost walk over two him was an indicator that something was off

I love how the text goes from ally - blue, to enemy - red after he says “I’m afraid not”

For people confused this is an alternate reality to the original games.

@unseenyt3

Жыл бұрын

What

@bigspas3

Жыл бұрын

@@unseenyt3 the new modern warfare games are an alternate reality universe type thing they have nothing to do with the three originals.

@raksi6382

Жыл бұрын

@@bigspas3 not quite, they are reboot of the original ones and not alternate reality or universe at that matter.

@bigspas3

Жыл бұрын

@@raksi6382 you quite literally just proved my point it's a completely different story

@raksi6382

Жыл бұрын

@@bigspas3 while yes it is a different story, but what you implied is that it is a alternate universe or in other words a parallel universe that co-exist with the original one. TDLR a multiverse which is wrong

Price's reaction to Shepherd's betrayal 2009: I need vengeance! Price's reaction to Shepherd's betrayal 2022: I need a cigar.

In every universe Ghost will be betrayed by Sheperd but this time he is alive.

The mission where you became Shadow Company was short but awesome Kinda cool how Graves did kind of care for his men.

Shepherds betrayal in 2009 : that’s one less loose end Shepherds betrayal in 2022: you’ve been released from service

5:36 “He sent Graves to kill us” I mean he kinda did give you a chance to fuck off lmao

@MrDibara

Жыл бұрын

After he had Alejandro's entire team arrested. *Yeah, pretty sure it was all rigged to be on sight.* Sheperd and Graves _wanted_ them to retaliate so they would have an excuse to kill them.

Grave's name turning red is such a subtle and nice touch to an ominous scene.

The original mw2 betrayal is still the more memorable and heartbreaking

MW 2022 betrayal doesn't give you any memory unike the OG which was remembered by everyone

@mahiahmed6519

Жыл бұрын

❤️🧡💛

@tristanemery8748

Жыл бұрын

True, though I prefer the more diplomatic approach that the new one seems to take, especially seeing as it allows for all of our favourite 141 members to make it out alive this time (though roach still isn't in the picture yet)

@ARandomInternetUser08

Жыл бұрын

You never know though.

This new generation will never feel the betrayal like we did on the OG mw2, Damn I got emotion trauma from that still💀💀💀

@fireknight2888

Жыл бұрын

Rip ghost both games are good but I'm just glad he got to live this time

@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947

Жыл бұрын

One of the old Ghost is very weak, two of my relatives are not from that generation and they played the game, they have it for PC currently.

@nathanbirch9860

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@Spider_Rng

Жыл бұрын

Khronoh shut yo ass up. EVERYONE seen the old betrayal. You ain’t special💯💯

“Good, that’s one less loose end” theses words will make the strongest of COD players cry… 😭

WE STILL NEED ROACH IN THE NEW TRILOGY!!! His presence and the way Ghost cared for him so much added to the feels of the OG game!

People need to see that the betrayals are not only different just to spice things up and give ghost more characters dev but also because the causes and reasons for why Shepard does it is completely different Shepard in the reboot is a general who messed up and tried to make amends for his own gain the og one was a calculated soldier who wanted to be seen as a war hero by literally causing a war

@noirekuroraigami2270

9 ай бұрын

Yeah because a general really cares if he messed up 😂 Bro, I think you don’t understand. America The US would have covered it up just so it doesn’t make us look bad. If anything he should have a Senator bury the whole problem, and it won’t be treason

Honestly I can't be the only one that's happy ghost is alive. I was so upset over it, having super soldiers basically killed in the most basic way. My childhood was a cliffhanger and I spent months searching if he lived somehow lol. They literally fixed my life long anxiety and kept him alive, job damn well done. It is pretty cool how the Russians get involved vs. the all out battle royale towards the end of OG MW2

@ol_smokey9370

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, they were shot in the chest with a 500 Magnum. Super soldier or not, that's gonna tickle.

@Epsilon-18

Жыл бұрын

They weren't super soldiers... They were the elite, sure. But in the end they are humans who just got played a bad hand. You saw how close Ghost was to killing Shepherd. Shepherd was just faster.

@kevintaylor1823

Жыл бұрын

old man shepherd faster than an elite soldier like ghost ? weird

@jackp.richardson6415

Жыл бұрын

The only issue with keeping him alive is that it’s hard to top him being killed. When he died in MW2 09 you saw him being an absolute badass throughout the campaign, and even in his last mission he’s dragging you to safety refusing to leave you behind, before he’s shot like nothing & you watch his lifeless body be thrown into a pit to be burned. It’s impactful for the same reason him being a badass was, you’d think he would die in extreme combat, not like an animal. Sure Ghost survived NOW, but come on, now the betrayal is barely as impactful.

@loldeeznuts1583

9 ай бұрын

​@@jackp.richardson6415 i mean activation is probably trying to spare/save us from getting ptsd and the new generation to get traumatic experiences

I love how Grave's name goes red when he says that shepherd sends his regards.

I like how the moment they turn on you their name turns red for subtitles. Pretty subtle but nice touch imo.

2009 shepherd: unexpected betrayal, going to war without vest protection, badass revolver Virgin (2022) shepherd: coward, goofy ahh traitor, bald

@zone000

Жыл бұрын

and the 2022 version doesnt have the moustache, his primary asset

@sikorskyuh-60blackhawk79

Жыл бұрын

badaas revolver (that sounds like a desert eagle) and sexy ass moustache

loose end was one of three missions i had left to complete on veteran. im happy i now have 100% on mw2 difficulties

These Subtitles are the best thing in Call of duty. The abrupt, yet subtle change in their name color is real clever on their part.

I remember when the explosion goes off at 0:21 the first time I thought I died after FINALLY making it down the hill and was about to lose my mind

It's kinda scary that your ally's name turned red during cutscenes

I still get PTSD for the original MW2's betrayal

A German shepherd can be very loyal but a shepherd can betray you anytime

6:36 was not expecting Sasuke