For a man, there is nothing wrong with expressing your feelings. Just don't expect any acceptance or empathy from other people.

@easylemon2547

Ай бұрын

... or stable friendships and relationships, or good job opportunities, or happiness in general

@Dan_Kanerva

Ай бұрын

@@easylemon2547 all men can easily get stable friendships and relationships. But good job opportunities depends on your family, money or clout. And happiness depends on your personality and assets

@easylemon2547

Ай бұрын

@@Dan_Kanervayes obviously, just don’t risk showing emotions around those

@ReinaSaurus

Ай бұрын

HULK FEELS EMOTIONAL! 🤣

@MidWitPride

Ай бұрын

I wonder if the age old wisdom of talking about your feelings being good for the mental health even is as valid as the society assumes. Therapy having much worse success rates among men than women might not be about "men just being too toxic with their masculinity to talk about their feelings", but it could just also be that processing emotions in that way doesn't come naturally to men, hence they don't benefit from it as much. I'd be interested in seeing how volunteer work or something that has a goal and a purpose would work in comparison. Having some kind of a purpose imo is quite central to the "male psyche", and there is no purpose in crying about your shit life to a therapist. I've known half a dozen or so men that have been to therapy and I don't think a single one have said that therapy helped them in any meaningful way with their depression or whatever. Men being kinda grumpy and stoic about their feelings might be a feature and not a bug that needs to be fixed. I doubt the issue will be fixed, as within psychology the idea of men and women having behavioral differences hardwired into their biology has become something of a taboo, so I doubt such things will be researched.

As a man who's alone, it's very simplistic to reduce men's issues to "men can't be vulnerable or show their feelings". It might be a portion of the problem, but definitely not its entirety. The problem with this and the "toxic masculinity" discourse is also an assumption that in order for men to be OK and healthy we need to be more like women or at the very least operate emotionally in a way that women do, when men often have other ways of coping and processing their emotions than women do, and that's valid too. Men in today's society face an array of issues, some of which have little or nothing to do with our emotions. It could be financial issues, various dating issues, being constantly demonised and told you're useless and trash. When women say they'd choose a bear over a man in a forest, men get that message loud and clear. We're told we're creeps, not to approach, that women don't need us and that you have to be a certain height or income bracket to even be considered for dating. You mentioned it's not women's fault, and I agree it's not all women's fault, but there's certainly a subsection of women that contribute to men's struggles, especially with loneliness.

@hengineer

19 күн бұрын

Seriously. "Cry more" "be more like women". Thats not how our brains work. We need more male spaces to be allowed to be in our masculine, however that presents itself. Society demonized male bonding rituals like fraternities or "lodge" type orgs to the point you don't see lodges anymore or "good" frats in the media. Bring back "good" male role models on television. Men who are actually good dad's but who are also more masculine as well. "Normal guys"

"Thats wack". Thats cenks nephew in a nutshell.

Something that stuck with me for years is that in the 2010s, they opened what was like the first or second male Domestic Violence shelter in Canada. Within a few weeks, feminists forced it to shut down. Real nice to know that when feminism is heralded by every company and celebrity, you're telling us that that is what we're worth. Man, I'm lucky to have had a good childhood and family life.

I think sometimes women miss the point of this issue in the sense that many men face way more mockery and ridicule for attempting to express any feelings from women than they ever do from men. Men react by not caring and blowing you off, and that's it. It's very rare that one will actually trash you for it. Women? Many of them will wreck you for daring to not be invulnerable 24/7, especially if you dare to suggest you need their support because "they're not your mother" and of course only your mother would give half a fuck about you and even then the same people will probably criticize you for being a mama's boy if you do ask for her help and support. You alluded to this at the start of the video when you mentioned that it's not fair for a partner to have to do all that labor because men supposedly don't have a support network like women do, which is a totally fair point. But if that's the case, how is it that said support network needs to consist of other men and exclude your partner because she's a woman, especially when said woman does rightfully expect you to support her and her emotional needs despite actually having a support network comprised of other women? Much like sexism, it's not something that just involves men, and women have a huge role in how society propagates these ideas. This issue does not boil down to "Other men designed a society where men can't express feelings and they don't support each other" because half the population are not men and they operate the same way either because they agree with the idea that men should not express feelings or, weirdly enough, because they don't agree with it but it's somehow not their problem if they mock them because of some technicality in their p.o.v. regarding the intent of that mockery.

There is a follow up video to this. You should see it sometime.

@DrizzleDrizzleNeverDies

Ай бұрын

For sure. Shoe had to cover the amount of hate she got from other women for advocating for men. She didn't even directly blame women in the video, but they still tried to dig their fangs into her.

You see the problem really stems from a young age because like as a guy you're told you're basically no one like I am always screamed at for not being the best like the way people treat us is almost perfectly designed to either turn us into a emotionless husk or psychopath and most of the times the spotlight points towards the psychopath which paints all of us as such

Ill say this i cried in front of a girlfriend 1 time after my mom died and 2 weeks later she broke up with me but ive cried in front.of my male friends and theve never insulted me or made me feel bad

@courtneyharris1006

Ай бұрын

The reason men train one another not to cry is for whom you think? Saying men are just doing this for each other is a gaslight

1. Had depression and loneliness since childhood 2. Addictied to porn and Suicidal thoughts by the age of 16

@enzoloveless132

Ай бұрын

Same boat, but I'm 40+ now, so just keep on keeping on :D And get a hobby, for me it was guitar/music that got me through it. And working, no time to feel down when working a lot. It's ok to be by yourself, being depressed is what needs to be fixed

@shanedawndusk3290

Ай бұрын

Same but it does get better

@newera478

Ай бұрын

​@@enzoloveless132 Too much work can be harmful tho. Saying this after two burnouts (worklife of 18 years). However my untreated somewhat severe sleep apnea contributed in those cases.

“You’re allowed to feel, boys” What you’re leaving out is “just don’t show women”

@courtneyharris1006

Ай бұрын

women are at least 80% of why men practice concealing emotions. We understand at least subconsciously that it is a humiliation ritual in which we sexually/romantically castrate our selfs if we do. Women's bonds grow we they show weakness because of our evolutionary instinct to protect them and they project their reality onto men when they do share our wiring to be supportive. In fact women are wired to show contempt for weak men as its effectively a bad omen to their survival.

Norah Vincent didn't die for a $1,000 Sephora gift card to become a prerequisite to a phone number exchange.

I'm only halfway through your reaction and I had to pause it to write this, but thank you. See, you're making something that I like to call "sense." I have always tried to go out of my way to be polite to people, even if they're being complete jerks (or whatever term you want to substitute) for two main reasons: I was raised learning the "do unto others" philosophy, and I really got a full understanding of what that meant early on because I got bullied all the time growing up. First by kids at school, then by my sibling, then by the people running the special ed program I was forced into, then by my own mother. And that's just the order those parties started their bullying in, there was almost always some overlap somewhere. I was tricked, I was ignored, I was blamed for things I never did, I had my buttons pushed until I got angry on purpose so there was "justification" for being grounded. I even got in trouble for trying to be the bigger person and walking away before I lost my temper. And through all of that, I chose to look at all of those experiences as a comprehensice guide on how not to treat people. I will always, always try to be polite, like you did with that Karen. But with so many unhinged mindsets out there today, combined with this need to cry wolf for the slightest perceived offense? It's honestly kind of scary talking to women now. I usually try to let them make the first move, which doesn't happen often, but when it does I know they're worth knowing. But to stop rambling, thank you for saying what you're saying here. It's always good to see anyone out there still making sense.

@Dan_Kanerva

Ай бұрын

this is why i am so happy i live in a country where MeToo would be laughed at, and authorities don't instantly believe a woman's side of the story; men also behave like normal men, and women are usually very femenine and chill. It's a real blessing to not be in a place rotten by political zealots and disrespectful kids

@djmagichat1721

Ай бұрын

@@Dan_Kanerva The fact that such a magical place exists gives me hope for the future. There will be safe havens of sanity to stay in while the crazies destroy each other.

@TonySpike

Ай бұрын

Dont say its Britain ...i know from personal first hand experience that your lying 😂

You should do a reaction to “Why Iroh is the pinnacle of masculinity” it follows this up perfectly and shows an example of healthy masculinity

@courtneyharris1006

Ай бұрын

Does society want to hear from men want men think healthy femininity is?

I consider myself a bit more emotionally aware than most men... but I just can't find anyone who wants to let me into their friend group, everyone seems like they don't have time. schedules don't line up and nobody wants to make the effort to hangout.

@whatever3543

Ай бұрын

Honestly I think this is the biggest issue. It's not that men are emotionally unavailable, it's that the vast majority of us just don't have the time and energy. I genuinely think if the economy was better and wages were higher men would have more time and money to spend on social activities. When you have to tighten your belt and work more hours the first thing to go is hanging out with the boys.

This video has just been Lauren using common sense Then going "Oh I get it now" when Shoe presents the insanity

i want to say one thing from personal experience back when i was around 17-18 and was trying to find a person to be in a relationship with. (honestly it was because of stuff you mentioned where things can make you feel like if you have not had sex or not been in a relationship you are a failure.) i have actively had a few different women threaten me with calling the police for trying to talk to them where by the time i turned 19 i just said fuck it and gave up. now i am 29 and never been in a relationship because i just don't care to even bother when all i see is it getting worse and worse by year by year. it really does feel like for the average man if you are not a rich person or drop dead gorgeous you have no chance. and one last thing about the patriarchy thing 100% it exists but harms men just as much if not more so then women, but it majorly benefits the 1-2% of men.

@newera478

Ай бұрын

If patriarchy benefits only minority of men then it's not patriarchy. What you described is closer to oligarchy.

@war97

Ай бұрын

@@newera478 then what we have is an oligarchy masquerading as a patriarchy

I'm glad that you talked a lot in the video, most of the times, we man just hear the complains and no support.

Concerning the movie featuring zombies, there's an anime about a man who lives alone and is isolated from Society. When a zombie outbreak happens, he barely notices it. He just avoids certain areas of his city and continues on with his life.

I am a middle aged man, married, kids grown and moved out, the few friends I had ive lost touch with, and the others passed away. Thank god for my wife- without her I would be lost.

1:58 I've tried, every time I try to express my feelings to my best friend he'll listen for like 2 minutes and then he starts making jokes to change the subject. I usually just talk to my little sister any time I really need to vent. I feel bad for the guys that are only children.

Both sexes need to work together to make things better for everyone. Sadly, this fact is obscured by all the hate in the media and by other perpetrators of hate, whether they are certain men or certain women.

I want to thank you for showing and reacting to this. I've been a 'lonely' male all my life due to my upbringing and just plain being socially awkward. It's hard.

In my experience men will either despise each other or be buddies almost immediately. It’s just if you talk to anyone who isn’t your male buddy 99.9% of the time your thoughts or opinions are either belittled, not taken into consideration, flat out ignores, or it’s somehow your fault. I have NO ONE in my life I can be 100% honest with bc I will always end up either comforting them or apologizing to them bc they got upset that I got upset and being upset as a man means you’re seen as violent. It doesn’t matter if I have a justification for being angry, or if I’m curled up in a ball on the floor in a panic attack, I am a threat for having a penis and negative emotions at simultaneously. I’ve been abused by both men and women physically, emotionally, sexually, and financially but if I get upset about that I’m effectively told “get over it it’s not as likely to happen to you (again) as it is to women” and if that isnt a sobering reminder to never open up about anything ever to anyone I have no idea what is

I cry in the shower so people don't see me. Also, glad I have two older loving sisters that I can talk to. It's crazy cause I fit that cateogry...no kids, not married, no college degree, etc. Just had 2 seizures and fell down the stairs and busted my face and eye up but I'm not complaining scared my mom and sisters though. Thank you to my sister for cleaning up my blood cause I almost bit my tongue off. Call me old school but as a guy I don't like wearing jewelery or watches and all that. Also, greetings from fellow Chicago resident. When I'm around a pretty woman I find attractive my brain completely shuts down and I'll probably say something stupid lol.

@Nothinglikeagoodnut

29 күн бұрын

So happy for ya! A little tip around women: stay away from those who state some type of financial requirement, cuz that's just whoring for some type of currency, like attention for example. Have a good story, stay present, be attentive, compliment something about her.... And most importantly, don't rush anything. If she rushing then it's worth keeping in mind that if you fall into something quickly you'll fall out quick too

Hi, Lauren! Loved the comments on this. I'm lucky to have found a loving wife who encouraged me to be emotional when I need to. She's an example of "be around people who care about you." I was lonely for a long time, and I had a 4-point strategy to cope in overcome. These are all very easy to write and not easy to do; they take diligence and doing the same thing every day for a long time. 1. Disregard expectations. Just be, and let what is be. 2. Be curious. Try stuff that scares you, and accept whatever happens. Then try something else, and repeat. I started hosting trivia nights at a bar, And I had some nasty stage fright. 3. I recognized that I chose who I hung around with, and made it a point to find people who wanted to better themselves as well as me. This includes letting me know when I've done something stupid and accepting that message as useful feedback, not criticism. 4. Repeat. If certain people in your social circle tell you your're nuts, it's working. I hope this is useful. By the way, your makeup and wardrobe look stunning.

Highly rec Dr. K content if interested in more thorough and compassionate break down of issue and other similar issues. He is very good at showing a logical view point. One of favorite is a child raised to not feel their emotions and is punished if they complain. It makes perfect sense why that child is mess with lots of issues and needs help if they are not allowed to feel. We then force this on adults to go through same thing and expect them to be alright and yell at them how dare they complain and not be grateful. Then act surprise when they are broken in society.

Women dont like it when guys cry

@gonzoyork1908

Ай бұрын

No they don't and if they said it's alright to cry. 🧢

@newera478

Ай бұрын

Why would anyone want to be around crying men? Men are supposed to be stoic. If you're a man and want to cry then go cry in some hidden place. Crying because of happiness however is a different thing. For example seeing your child born is extremely emotional event.

Don’t forget LeVar Burton

Not a bad break down on your end: I appreciate you being open minded about this. And, not to get into an entire entity/ies and turning the comments section into a furball: most folks I know so not take that tate guy seriously, along with what you've likely seen as the "face" of whatever group of men you care to name, along with many of the others, neither do they (again, the ones I know) blame women for all the problems. Hell, the videos I've seen of these "gurus" that eventually out themselves are over the top hilarious when they do come out, and trust me, they always do. Found you guys from the DBZA reactions by the way, love the content!

I think part of the issue is that we use to have very defined standards for life such as being married by a specific age (at around 25). But we've adopted a modern mentality where people are now told that you don't have to strictly get married at around 25. While this may make them feel better in the short run, it doesn't really give them a defined goal of when to actually make it happen. Extremely driven people may be more able to do this, but others who are less driven may not. They may not have a clear vision and they could be deeply lost which may lead them to flounder in life. It potentially explains part of why there are tons of lonely men. They might be men with no clear goal, just ideas of what they vaguely want because of the erosion of standards.

As a bouncer and security I'we learned to listen too, boy have I listned and shook hands instead of fists. "See ya later after you have been sobered" - not "see you in court"... We have lost the balance between men and women,. Even my grandparents had valid loyal friends real BFF:s as in US is trend to talk... Wow! that Holzern is rather expensive in the top tear, but earrings start about US dinner invoice, not including tips, LOL (starting 37€ = 40$)...

The problem with the term “ toxic masculinity “ is that there isn’t a single instance you can point to that women are not also guilty of. There’s no such thing as toxic masculinity. Only toxic humanity.

@nicwalker882

Ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more 😔✊

@armchairwizard8613

Ай бұрын

You’re way off

@TonySpike

Ай бұрын

​@@armchairwizard8613 he isnt though 😂

@armchairwizard8613

Ай бұрын

@@TonySpike He is though.

@TDoughter23

Ай бұрын

There are masculine and feminine expressions of different traits, toxicity incliddd

The people who do this think its ok because they're not sexist or not racist. But they don't ask why those things are bad. Who the victim is isn't what makes it bad. Its the way they dehumanize them so they don't feel guilty for how they treat them. They just do bad things to a different group of people instead, and then pat themselves on the back as if that makes them good people. And they don't ask why other people are sexist or racist when it's so easy for them to act that way. You'd think people who do that would be more self aware than that

34:20 that guy kinda looks like the chefs from little nightmares.

So when's the reaction for Shoes follow up video to this She talks about the feedback, responses and reactions the original video received An interesting watch and listening to Lauren's thoughts here, it would be interesting to see what she thinks about the meltdown twitter had over a thumbnail Like you think some of the takes in this video is madness, this is merely the tip of the iceberg

16:10 I think tate is saying that men who are good looking, in good shape, have alot of money, cars, can travel, etc, will easily find many attractive woman willing to engage them, meanwhile the guy working at the local food chain making 15$ an hour, renting an apt, driving 500$ junkers, will not experience anything similar in that regard. That being said- charisma goes a LONG way

32:10 i kinda agree. Physical closeness between male friends was historically more tolerated a century ago. But i think its just one layer of the onion. Also the argument "(x goup) commits more crime, therefore its ok to hate them, and dismiss their problems" I think i heard it somewhere before.... Someone in a pointy hood was making that argument 43:50 what social programs have been privatised?

Men (who are friends I should stress) mock each other but it’s to make them stronger, not necessarily to tear them down. The reason is that showing emotion and weakness *will* be weaponized against you. And stocicism is necessary for men who can/will be forced to sacrifice themselves, whether metaphorically or literally, for others and for their countries. Also, and this comes from personal experience, the very people who have encouraged opening up are the ones who weaponize the vulnerability against you.

i cant even give my opinion on the matter because, as a man, i will either be called a beta by my fellow men, or a sexist by women. welcome to the 2020's, where being a man means you just have to shut your mouth and be a emotionless, unopinionated blank slate.

@newera478

Ай бұрын

First rule: Stop worrying what other people think about your opinions.

I never thought I'd see you reacting to Shoe.

I was dating this girl in college. She got pregnant but because she didn't know it and kept taking her birth control, she had a miscarriage. It crushed me completely, because doctors told me if I ever got a woman pregnant it would he a medical miracle and it would be 99% likely that would be the only chance I have to have kids of my own. I was inconsolable for weeks, knowing that I had lost the only chance I had at having a son or daughter of my own. She was relatively fine and expressed that she didn't know so it didn't bother her that she lost it. She broke up with me after almost 2 years together 5 days after my birthday because I cried in front of her. Any time I've ever shown emotion in a relationship beyond cherishing the person I'm with and giving them every bit of my soul, I've had it used against me. Men are checking out for various reasons and both sides of the political spectrum don't give a fuck about us. Shoe's statement about us being pawns for culture wars and real wars hits hard, after serving in 2 branches of the military.

Being a High value man isn't about just having money. Kevin samuels broke it down clearly, but after his death, women took the phase and made it just about money. You have to also have good moral values and are seen as a peer to other valuable men. Also, the red pill isn't about "blaming women" it's to help men recognize female nature so they don't waste time money and resources on the wrong woman.

@Papolucho702

Ай бұрын

Starting to recognize where I have gone wrong in my own marriage. Wasted a lot of money and time unfortunately. Now she hates it that I am pulling back a lot because she’s been on easy mode the entire time and is seeing reality for what it is.

@partyshoes2917

Ай бұрын

​@@Papolucho702 same but we divorced eventually but still together for the kids. It is actually better I spend less money and do less chores, And her having to work full time is showing her that she was on easy mode.

32:13 Well, I think she means compared to all of history as a whole.

Definitely watch the followup video "Men Deserve to be Lonely! Responding to Backlash over The Male Loneliness Epidemic"

We seriously do not mind you adding nearly a second video's worth of content, especially when you at least were willing to say half-way through that "oh... I said that... but there is more, isn't there". As to the toxic levels we are in now, my biggest worry is because Shoe, Pearl, a few others... and now yourself... are some of a very limited positive places for a man (cis man at least) on the left. There seriously is not a counterbalance to the men who say "women have taken everything from you" (they did not, but we do not want to get into who did), so more and more men are moving right... and that is not a good thing for anyone. As a moderately conservative man who loves history, where things are headed is not good for society in general... and like it or not, when the collapse happens, women will be very affected. But it seems like very few are trying to keep it from happening, too busy trying to argue historical wrongs to see where it can end.

Damn shos gotten so big even Chicago reacts did a reaction

Maybe there are not high value humans but 100% low value ones, talking about the actual worst, like serial killers, pdf. files, or other REAL threats to society.

4:51 hmmm sounds gay

Thank you

You thinking of zombieland?

I miss Bob Ross too

As a man, I could get into it. But as a man who has lived life, I would it none what anyone is saying. The problem is that each man has their own problem. Talking about it never works it only makes you not want to talk about it. Plus any if he needs male friends to talk to, then the problem is female. I'm not trying to throw dirt. I'm just saying, where do you think incels start? You can be alone with low income and be content. But people everywhere else tell you that you're not happy because it is not normal for them.

If we're bringing in crime statistics...anyone wanna talk about black, and especially black on black crime? Should we judge all blacks on those facts?🤔 Rhetoric question. The answer is no. Same for men. Remove your disingenuous arguments that don't have anything to do with the question at hand, from the topic being discussed.

In pure generalities: republican = logical, democrat = emotional. Men = logical, women = emotional. Why is it so wrong to accept the fact that balance is the most important thing to achieve and it's literally built into our DNA. I will never understand why it is so vilified in society these days.

@PaintedMana

Ай бұрын

Too many people feel its "Us vs Them". They outsource their critical thinking to other people. Distancing myself from politics and focusing on what I can actually control has helped a lot.

@genericfakename8197

Ай бұрын

Republicans? Logical? All their talking points are emotional rage bait with zero supporting facts.

@darkmaster4868

Ай бұрын

This is a very dum explanation cause it doesn't make sense

@MantisTobaggon69

Ай бұрын

Calling Republicans logical is absolutely hilarious lol

@NamelessKing1597

Ай бұрын

Nah it's small vs large ingroup, a Republican will flip tf out if you go after anything that affects them directly democrats get emotional over everything but the actual level of emotionality is actually lower, they just overreact for sympathy points. Same with men and women, fewer things make men emotional because we care about fewer things but if you mess with something we do care about watch tf out. Women/dems are not more emotional, they're emotional more often because they have larger social networks.

We are so cooked as a species

6:50 welcome to zombieland?

@patrickholt2270

Ай бұрын

Zombieland was my guess too.

I fundamentally don't agree with the notion that the biggest issue is that society has expectations for it's citizens by a certain age. The reason why is that in every time period this has been the case and much worse than now. In the ancient times if you weren't devoted to certain religions by a certain age you could be branded a heretic and straight up hung or set on fire... Compared to the old days there are far LESS expectations on people to be ANYTHING by ANY age. Many people are more individualistic in their behavior than in any time period in history and most people have chosen to rebel against their families traditions whether religious or otherwise. The so called expectation you mentioned to be in a relationship by a certain age is a mere relic of an age long past where most people were of the Christian faith and believed in being married by a young age... Today fewer and fewer people believe in the sanctity of marriage or anything and yet you think it's the echo of those traditions causing todays issues? No it's the rebellion against all things traditional that is causing these issues. I even hear it in your voice, the rebellion against the expectations of the society... to me it's that perspective which has led society to where it is today.

@courtneyharris1006

Ай бұрын

The rebellion demeanor that many women embody today was synthesized to begin with to become agents of destruction by the elite playing on their affinity for freedom divorced from duty.

shoe has a lot of good videos you should react to lauren

sometimes laurens jewelry and attire catch my attention. her necklace does look a little bit like a bikes lock to me. and thats a very fine dress. more makeup than usual. normally her styles tendency goes to darker colors and more casual clothing. the peachy and silver colors here are a very good match with the earphones, though.

@TonySpike

Ай бұрын

That sounded creepier than you probably meant it

@ReinaSaurus

Ай бұрын

@@TonySpike paying attention to clothing is creepy? then i apologize. meant no harm. was admittedly off topic, just noticed a difference in the reactors appearance.

One of the sad things about toxic masculinity is that it has warped the idea of Stoicism into meaning "showing no emotion" or "bottle everything up" and "do everything on your own" Marcus Aurelius (the most famous of the Stoicism philosophers) says in Meditations that he often would seek guidance and ask for help from his friends, family, and teachers about emotions he was feeling, or events he was facing. When facing a strong emotion or problematic event he did three things 1 step back and analyze it from an objective perspective "why am I feeling this way? What has caused this event?" 2 control his actions "what can I do to alleviate this feeling or fix this problem? " 3 accepted the will of fate " I have done what I can and now I must move on. What has happened or will happen is always as it was meant to happen."

@redacted1093

Ай бұрын

No such thing as "toxic masculinity" just toxic people and personally it wasn't anything about masculinity that taught me to bottle my emotions it was women using my emotions against me or treating them like some sort of trophy.

@courtneyharris1006

Ай бұрын

Ask the men in your life what happened when they showed emotions, weakness, cried in front of their woman. Women conceal the external to appeal to men. We conceal our internal to appeal to women.

Jordan Peterson is actually an extremely intelligent man. Anna is way off base there. She just sees it through the lens of left and right politics. Peterson rarely talks about politics but actually about how to make yourself into something. The first thing he tells people in general is to make your bed. With your bed made every day you might have a feeling of accomplishment and clean your entire room. From there it might snowball into doing something or learning a new skill that makes you happy. Be dangerous is his next thought. You might think that thought is in itself dangerous, but the point of it he explains in detail. Be dangerous to those who would do harm to yourself and those under your protection is the primary gist of the thought. Without the ability to enact violence on a perpetrator, nobody will seek your protection which will lead to loneliness and despair. Without purpose (e.g. someone or something to protect or build) men become shallow husks of their full potential.

@lamaglama6231

Ай бұрын

What exactly do you mean by actually? What exactly do you mean by extremely? What exactly do you mean by intelligent? What exactly do you mean by man? That's the kind of word salad you get by him lately. He might be intelligent but it seems like he is slowly going nuts.

@armchairwizard8613

Ай бұрын

Peterson is a deranged lunatic and is obsessed with his right wing culture war nonsense.

@aaronburdon221

Ай бұрын

@@lamaglama6231 He has a very socratic view of the world. The thought process is that you have to pull every thing apart, define and categorize the parts, and then put them back together to see the entire picture. It is a bit tedious, this is true. He also does this because the media likes to twist people's words into something he didn't say in an attempt to discredit him.

@SirButtface3000

Ай бұрын

bruh you for real? jordan peterson is just another rightwing grifter these days. he used to be a respected psychology professor but thats long gone

Nice shirt, looks good on ya

milk

Love zombieland

No, the solution is not "men be more open with your emotions" That's been proven wrong. If you get cut off in traffic, you're angry for 15 seconds and never think about it again. If you "express your emotions" and bitch about it for a week, well you're much more likely to think about that week at some point in the future, and get angry again, than your are to think about the 15 seconds again. Talking about how angry you are makes you angrier, not less angry. Talking about how sad you are makes you sadder, not less sad. The correct answer is women need to also not express their emotions. Since women go to therapists and take psychoactive drugs at 5 times the rate of men, the "share your feelings" idea is obviously the wrong one. the problem is men talk to you about our problems to find a solution so we no longer have the problem, and women say, "why don't you talk about it?" Because I can have thoughts without saying them out loud. I want a solution that makes the problem go away, not to wallow in the problem forever.

@nicwalker882

Ай бұрын

But… talking about problems *does* often help. Not always, sure, but most times it does. Just because a certain mental doctrine works for you, doesn’t mean that it’ll work for everybody. The human mind is complex and each individual (even regardless of gender) is different. Believe it or not but a lot of people who have talked about their problems with other people have had beneficial outcomes, so much so that I find it odd that you haven’t perceived that fact. Look, I get where you’re coming from (I’m also a dude) but you saying that telling people others about their problems doesn’t help, is blatantly false. I know this because I talked to my loved ones about my issues and while yes, it didn’t solve the problem immediately, it sure as shit helped because sometimes it’s nice to vent. Sometimes people don’t even know what’s wrong with them until they’ve talked to someone who might have helped them see and understand what their issue is and how to solve it. I say all this as someone who’s been a social recluse all my life, I know what isolation feels like and sometimes it works, but sometimes I wish I had more people who were there for me. I can only hope that whatever *you* might be dealing with is taken care of. Whether that be from help from others, or yourself. But all I ask is that you give people a chance. Just because the people you’ve met have been shitty, doesn’t mean there aren’t better people out there, cause they definitely are. I wish you luck

@SirButtface3000

Ай бұрын

if thtas true for you, great. but its not for most people

As a man in his 30s that spends his time alone or at work, who sees no friends and has no girlfriend, but is content with this - we (men) gotta pay more attention to how we feel* and not be afraid to communicate about it. *I mean at the nuanced level. "I'm pissed" or "I'm chillin'" mentality is fair, but those are more often oversimplifications for any actual feelings you're having. The goal is to suppress our emotional intelligence less ;)

@frizzman1991

19 күн бұрын

Put more simply: conquer your feelings through understanding & mastery, not willful ignorance.

@JakNasty69

14 күн бұрын

​@@frizzman1991Like Kratos

There is definitely value in people Some higher than other FACT WE live in a society Which can only move at the speed of the slowest So Them keeping society faster and then helping the slower ones keep up Are definitely a higher value player within a society You missed the point here In my opinion 😊

@ZeallustImmortal

Ай бұрын

Your opinion is dumb.

Ah yes, the “ nefarious” Jordan Peterson… good job maintaining your Bias TYT. 😂

@madyottoyotto3055

Ай бұрын

Explain this Couldn't see him as nefarious myself

@madyottoyotto3055

Ай бұрын

NEFARIOUS suggests flagrant breaching of time-honored laws and traditions of conduct. Example used in sentence. the nefarious rackets of organized crime. Doesn't sound anything like Jordan Peterson How unspeakable of you to slander this man

@ZeallustImmortal

Ай бұрын

​@@madyottoyotto3055He isnt going to have sex with you

@norXmal

Ай бұрын

@@madyottoyotto3055 I'm fairly certain he's being sarcastic, the use of quotation marks to emphasize "nefarious" and the sarcastic roasting of TYT.

@ZeallustImmortal

Ай бұрын

​@@madyottoyotto3055Can you read?

25 years is hella early to get engaged ... society is wrong about that! I never had a partner and am 27 years old and thats totally fine and normal

@TonySpike

Ай бұрын

The problem with that viewpoint is, its normal to you, not nessecarilly normal to everyone else My freinds were married at 18 and have done just fine, and me and my partner never got married, and we are now 40 Its all individual

@easylemon2547

Ай бұрын

@@TonySpike then I see no problem 😉

Now you need to watch "an apology to men, and response to shoeongead" by thoughtslime

12:44 It is women's fault. It's their fault for being too good for me.

It turns out that Tate is really good on Gaza. Maybe US imperialism too, but I'm not sure. He was skewering zionism and the genocide early. He just verbalises the logic of neoliberal economics, which is the logic of capitalism in itself, that treats people as competitive individuals who have to treat each other as objects to make a buck, whether that's using workers as disposable tools to be exploited until they break, or as commodities and recreational equipment to be bought and sold, making all relationships casual and all partners disposable and interchangeable. He's saying nothing original, or good or true, he's just saying the quiet part out loud. The problem is capitalism, and it is conventional capitalist economics which turns that dehumanizing, commodifying behaviour into hypothetical mathematical models (classical, neo-classical, liberal, neoliberal, Austrian, Hayek, Freidman, it's all the same and equally false). He dehumanizes women because he's already dehumanized himself, as well as all men. Mass loneliness is one of the outcomes of neoliberal policies being implemented for the last 50 years to make Mrs Thatcher's claim that "there is no such thing as society, only individuals and families" come true. This is one of the reasons, along with being a follower of Jesus, why I'm a collectivist. Individualism is axiomatically isolating and alienating, not just a reflection of alienation imposed by capital. One of the tasks of the faith, and of Marxism, is to rescue collectivity, as Vijay Prashad puts it. It's as collectives that we're strong, that we can take charge of our destinies and have friends and comrades and be in fellowship and give and get the help everyone needs. It's as collectives that democracy works, instead of always being hijacked and sabotaged by the richest individuals. Identity politics is also part of the problem, because it when it comes to men expressing their feelings and being able to have platonic relationships and platonic love (which is a central element of Christian teaching), it has just multiplied the number of ways it can be misread and denigrated as some form or another of clossetedness or not really being a man. When everything is a sexuality or a newly discovered gender identity, Platonic love is made to appear impossible or imaginary, whereas it's what friendship, collectivity and fellowship all depend on.

@FOXY_SPHYNX

Ай бұрын

No one asked, W 🇮🇱

I'm not saying there's no such problem among us, men, but let's be honest - we just don't give a shit, because we're built this way 😂

God bless Lauren for wearing that shirt

@gamesandspace

Ай бұрын

Excuse me what ?

@TheDrunkenCelt

Ай бұрын

@@gamesandspace Big boobas, you blind?

@ZeallustImmortal

Ай бұрын

Bro

@ZeallustImmortal

Ай бұрын

Theres some thoughts you are meant to keep inside lmao

@gamesandspace

Ай бұрын

@@ZeallustImmortal I hope he's joking otherwise I lost all hope in humanity I didn't even have

I like Lady Tate. She is vwry knowledgeable. I hope one day you guys also cover the men and women who decide, without ulterior motives or politics, to simply STAY single and not look for anything in anyone.

booba... booba...

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