The irony that she wanted to become a famous serial killer, but Germany’s strict identity protection laws mean we don’t even know her real name… poetic

@eduard60

Жыл бұрын

this is likely her training arc... she didn't even try to hide it. in 12 years I would be worry living in germany.

@mariefryzelkova7927

Жыл бұрын

This case is extreme example but to be honest when you see how "court of public" (especially in USA) can totally lynch you if you are just suspect I am glad for our identity protection laws (I am czech but our protection laws are similar).

@ezfree.z651

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@mariefryzelkova7927h yeah, it’s pretty insane how some ppl take a suspects name and run with it, in some cases doing irreparable damage to the person only for them to not even be guilty. court of public opinion can do lots of harm sometimes!

@auzknightps4482

Жыл бұрын

I do enjoy this part of the story

@rbarnett3200

Жыл бұрын

So..to be clear...you can show her image, tell us where she was born, her medical diagnosis and pretty much give away everything about her and her past, but you can't reveal her name? I'm not gonna do it, but I doubt it would be challenging to find her name on the internet. It took about 20 minutes after Ryan Giggs asked for a super-injunction where his name couldn't be published by the press in a legal incident before his name was publicly known by everyone in the UK. I'm sure the German authorities have the best intentions with their privacy laws but privacy laws are pretty much irrelevant in the internet age.

Just for future reference, if a woman is super willing to have sex with you as a stranger, and then recommends a shed in the woods where no one will know you are “having sex”…..its probably not what you think it is.

@Jack-jg4jy

Жыл бұрын

Right?? Like every woman I know values her life too much to go to a rando shack with a literal stranger…

@simonaxlz

Жыл бұрын

Anytime a dude asks to go hiking on the first few dates makes me super anxious and I usually cancel and don’t bother again. A woman would definitely not respond well to sex in a shed in the woods, but I can see why this dude was down. She’s got that Satan worshipping vibe and he thought he was playing in her kink.

@Dextructo001

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, he looked mid thirties, what is he doing trying to pick up teenagers? I mean, he was no saint either .

@Brenda-qe2ug

Жыл бұрын

Yep. You got it.

@firefly88887

Жыл бұрын

He was a 40 year old man and if unto that surely could have paid for a safe experience- have to wonder why she is so cold 🥶- although doesn’t take much imagination?

The way she behaves makes it clear that she's very likely to reoffend. I hope they don't let her out for society's sake.

@TheStiepen

11 ай бұрын

There are different Methods for keeping people locked up if they pose a threat to society in Germany. Depending on your situation you might never get out, unless a psychiatric exam clears you. I'm not exactly sure what the specific situation is in this case.

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

Yathink? Lol 🤦‍♂️

@greenegon

6 ай бұрын

She was convicted under the juvenile criminal law, which could have given her a maximum sentence of 10 years, but since the "particular gravity of the guilt" was determined due to her lack of empathy, she received 12 years. In addition, preventative detention was imposed -> she needs a psychiatric exam in order to get free

@mistert4533

5 ай бұрын

What gave you that opinion that she would reoffend. I mean apart from the fact she said it be sad if she went to prison without getting to kill someone. I mean apart from the fact she said she would, how did you Sherlock Holmes that 🤣🤣

@felisasininus1784

4 ай бұрын

Who cares, Germany's a s***hole anyway.

Thank you for not demonising people with bpd. My sister struggles with it. And she has made so much progress with her mental health. She'd never do something so vile as take another persons life. And she has a huge heart for animals. She's had to work through a lot of trauma from her early life. She's gone through so much. And most people I've met with bpd or any other mental health problem has been good, kind, and would never hurt another person.

@georgem8744

3 ай бұрын

Hhmm I disagree, people with BPD in my experience are horrible horrible people with stunted warped ideas of empathy and loyalty, it is now acknowledged in the DSM that they are as bad as NPD for empathy lack and manipulation skills second only to a psychopath, ...it is after all a cluster B personality warp. Maybe it's different if it's your sister though, but be careful please.. I say this as a BPD survivor... You only know what a person is capable when it's too late.. just protect your heart is all I'll say

@yazzinsane

2 ай бұрын

​@@georgem8744 that is horribly discriminating. My sister also struggles from BPD and is a loving mother and wife after getting help with her mental health. A diagnosis does not define someone, but rather the help they seek and how much they work to improve.

@georgem8744

2 ай бұрын

@@yazzinsane I know maybe it's a bit harsh seeming but once bitten twice shy.. I just had a really bad a long relationship with a girl who maybe represents all the worst aspects of the disorder and it's made me forever shy to face it again to the level that I'd appreciate the honesty of any girl that I met and was considering a relationship so I could run a mile.. it's a shame as it does make me discriminate agaisn't such people but only to the extent that I'll have nothing to do with them I'd not be nasty or anything

@cheycheyfriend247

Ай бұрын

@@georgem8744 youre wrong.

@cheycheyfriend247

Ай бұрын

@@georgem8744 i had a really bad relationship with a schizophrenic. i guess i can think theyre all monsters now.

Look, I get it, we've all wanted to lose ourselves in a night of passion with someone... but if you've never met them before and they're inviting you out to a shed in the woods... please don't do it.

@feelthejoy

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention if they’re 20 years younger than you and “a virgin”

@kikilo9647

Жыл бұрын

Right? I'm sorry for the guy and his family of course however if you get invited to the woods by a stranger chances are you would get robbed, beaten or killed or all of it.

@derkeheath5172

Жыл бұрын

Women will NEVER understand how incredibly hard it is for men not to think with their dicks when they are extremely horny. I once slept with a woman so trashy that my attitude was, "I'll probably get AIDS from this, even with a condom. Oh well." Not QUITE as suicidal, but...

@VivaSepulchre

Жыл бұрын

I'll do it if some Chick-fil-A is thrown in !

@r.1.336

Жыл бұрын

@T on E C as G of course they are it’s not like someone could be waiting there for you to rob , jump or kill you

As a man, I would never entertain the thought of meeting some girl in the woods. Her fowardness would have been a huge red flag.

@abellabarbie

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@dre3k78

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for what happened to this man. That being said he was almost 40 and trying to meet up with an 18 year old in the woods....asking if she was the "devil's bride"? Not the best life choices....

@Roro.777

Жыл бұрын

No but nothing about you meeting up with an 18 year old eh

@CoolCollision

Жыл бұрын

same you already know you're either getting robbed or killed when it's that easy bro was too horny to think otherwise

@Trancymind

Жыл бұрын

Men are stupid who fall in love so easily. I am a heterosexual male myself. A 38 year old man doing hook ups like this says a lot about this man. And the woman receiving only 12 years, she might get released in 8 years due to good behavior (supposedly).

Would be interesting to ask her would she still be thrilled and fascinated by those serial killers the last minutes of her life being strangled by any of them.

Having to work up the energy to re-record an episode that glitched, while fighting jetlag, is totally based. Respect.

@AN-xs7dw

Жыл бұрын

KZread 🤑💰💸

@user00370

Жыл бұрын

What does the word ‘based’ REALLY mean?

@c-jam6392

10 ай бұрын

@@user00370I don’t get it either, people constantly making up new words…the other one is when someone responds with “bet”

@bandolierboy1908

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@user00370Based off that phrases' contextual pattern that I've noticed, it seems that the term means whatever a particular person said or did, is based in truth or knowledge of a particular truth

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

​@@c-jam6392Because they think it makes them look like more than they really are 🙄

The fact that she was given THAT sentence after her heinous crime and attitude is almost as terrifying as the crime itself. What a joke

@herzchenbambi

Жыл бұрын

welcome to Germany, where tax evasion brings you a higher prison time than murder ._.

@Bonnatella

Жыл бұрын

Same is true EVERYWHERE.

@holdinmcgroin8639

Жыл бұрын

Women always get more lenient sentences, and Germany is far more lax than the US

@supraguy4694

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, she's probably gonna do it again once free. She's a psychopath, no amount of therapy is going to change that.

@dre3k78

Жыл бұрын

@Knowledge Is Contagious Pass It Around If you have money you don't go to jail in America. Jail is only for the poor....be it murder or tax evasion.

Also worth noting that she tried to convince her mother to kill her ex-boyfriend. The mother replied with "I am not a murderer"

@mario-qi3yw

Жыл бұрын

I would have tried to get her mental help at that point.

@themindhelp9584

Жыл бұрын

Holy fuxkkk😢😮

@drowz9825

Жыл бұрын

Weeb.

@catherinethorpe4717

8 ай бұрын

Only a bad Mother, frankly that just as destructive in my opinion

@susanbodiford9105

4 ай бұрын

​@@mario-qi3ywYEP!

Your crime videos are the one of the only few I can watch because of how respectful you are to the victims and their families. I get recommended other crime videos and they are so disrespectful and obviously use the stories of the victims for views. Thank you for your quality and respective videos, I appreciate it a lot.

A 39 who wanted to meet up with 18 year old girl he thought was a virgin. Bro

You know, as far as killers go, she's got to be one of the stupidest pitiful attempts of someone "being a serial killer" and getting away with it. She had a fantasy in her mind but had no idea she was in way over her head and this was something she couldn't handle. If her idols had seen her back when they were alive they would have laughed at her pitiful attempt and then killed her themselves. She wouldn't think it was cool then.

@erinmccutcheon3751

Жыл бұрын

Or they would pull a Joker, trick her into becoming their Harley Quinn, use her to help them in their heinous crimes, then toss her aside once they see her as having no further use to them.

@suksona

Жыл бұрын

​@@erinmccutcheon3751 who cares about what theyd do with her? these are very weird hypothetical situations.. what matters is that all three of them killed people which is such an insanely evil act, doesnt matter how "good" or "bad" it was done.

@erinmccutcheon3751

Жыл бұрын

@@suksona You haven't watched Batman the Animated Series have you?

@suksona

Жыл бұрын

@@erinmccutcheon3751 that info is uneccessary in regards to the video and discussions about killers or serial killers

@erinmccutcheon3751

Жыл бұрын

@@suksona No it isn't. It can be very interesting and will help you out if you think a person may be a psychopath or sociopath.

While everyone praises Adrian, I want to give a shout out to his community in the comment section. One of the most respectful and realistic people out here. I saw this case covered on another channel and a bunch of simps were spamming comment section how hot she is and they'd still smash after she's released.... Couldn't believe my eyes

@CoExist64

Жыл бұрын

You’re right, but I believe the better and more respectful the creator is, then those are the types of subscribers they attract :)

@Ihave10billionsubs

Жыл бұрын

All sorts of fucking degenerates out there. It's pretty scary tbh. There's a lot of mother's basements where I'm sure you can find some pretty horrible creatures.

@migongaming

Жыл бұрын

and this is why you go outside fr

@Takeme_DCUO

Жыл бұрын

People of the 21st century for ya lol. Tbh how many of them would have the balls to go through with it? Easy to talk shit in comments. Liked your comment though

@lordtette

Жыл бұрын

They craic jokes like that, but are the first to say that society/women don't care about male victims. They have a chance to extend empathy and they choose not to

Thank you. So many incidents are covered where BPD is associated and it is never explained that many with BPD live lives of empathy. I live with BPD and it pains me to see situations like this, and for often these actions to be heaped onto BPD as if it is the sole cause is madness to me. Thank you for mentioning what you did, mate. It doesn't go unnoticed.

@georgem8744

3 ай бұрын

Nah people with BPD are vapid takers lacking sympathy same like all cluster B they are also very good at manipulating and making people think thry are good or harmless

In my country we dont have patience for remorseless killers. Really sad for zayed.

I am unsure how it works in Germany, but I worked in the forensic psychiatry system in Canada. Everyone acts as if being sent to a psychiatric facility is getting off easy, but (in Canada) for someone like this who refuses treatment, even after the 12 years is up, they will likely continue to detain her. It’s not like jail, where you do your time and go. You’re stuck there until a doctor deems it is safe to let you out. I have worked with individuals who have begged to get sent over to the prison system so they could eventually go back to the community.

@chengkeiper1597

Жыл бұрын

It's similar here in Germany. "Insane criminals" are locked away in psychiatric prison hospitals (and not in the general state prisons). This normally means they'll never be free again although they're sentenced accordingly ... unless a psychiatric team pronounce them "safe" in society. Amost all inmates in the general state prisons in Germany are prescribed x-hours of psychiatric therapy which isn't compulsary though benificial for their general behaviour during the time in prison.

@alexnicolaou3579

Жыл бұрын

unfortunately Europe in general is quite "soft", im willing to bet she'll be out at some point in the next 20-30 years.. a dangerous 45-50 year old, looking for a 2nd victim. :(

@jamessatterfield5705

Жыл бұрын

Same in the USA. I hope she doesn’t ever go to treatment so she will be gone for good.

@---xo3em

Жыл бұрын

@@jamessatterfield5705thats the problem with the usa u should rehabilitate people so that they dont even want to do it again instead

@janda5816

Жыл бұрын

Two words for you, Canada, and your stringent psychiatric system: Vincent Lin. Enough said.

As someone who lives with BPD, thank you for validating us by saying millions of us suffer with this and most of us would not do what she did. There is so much misconception about this mental illness when cases like this do pop up, so it's refreshing to hear that we are not alone and we are not all monsters.

@34turnerjason

Жыл бұрын

As someone who has BPD, I don't need validation. You don't need validation from anyone. The victim mentality is out of control.

@scottcook7928

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t a central feature of BPD to craft oneself as a victim?

@elly6588

Жыл бұрын

@@34turnerjason yes I understand that, but my point is it's refreshing to hear a true crime researcher say that not everyone with BPD has murderous intentions like this case. Lots of misconception that we are all wired the exact same. Obviously it's a mental illness and not a good thing to have to live with, but it's something we have to do.

@elly6588

Жыл бұрын

@@scottcook7928 yes you're right. I didn't mean for it to come off that way but I just think that more true crime researchers need to be less dismissive of the mental illness since so many people live with it.

@traybern

Жыл бұрын

I live…with the ENTIRE alphabet!!!!

"She lured men in to murder them..." She lured man in to murder him...

@neilmarshall3071

2 ай бұрын

She was luring more than one, just got caught first time

This woman should never be let out of the psychiatric facility she is in . I also don't understand why she has access to hair colour , fashion items etc .. her obsession with Ramirez and Bundy shows how sick she is .

@wiktoriajedrzejewska7287

8 ай бұрын

It's not even an obsession. Like i said before, it's cringy teenage/young adult stupidity. Trying to be edgy and cool. She is nothing special, but clearly thinks that she is. Wonder how she would've reacted if Ramirez and Bundy attacked her 😂 surely they wouldn't spare her and invite her to kill with them and have sex, like she probably imagined in her dumb head. I can assure you, that she doesn't know anything about Ramirez, she probably saw a photo of him at the court with pentagram and thought that it was cool. Ramirez only started to look better after he got caught. Was able to get his teeth fixed and clean himself up properly. Before he smelled badly and people stayed away from him. Maybe she watched American Horror Story 😂 She deserves life sentence, without any access to fashion. Also that ''pentagram'' show off was cringe too. I laughed my ass off when it was said that just before the murder she did those ridiculous google searches. Bundy and Ramirez at least weren't caught 30 minutes after the murder, yet she thinks she is all that. A crime is a crime, yet the way she tries to picture herself pissed me off so badly, that i literally wanna punch her. Wonder how that ''edgy killer girlie'' would've reacted.

@sofiacreepypastafan

7 ай бұрын

​@@wiktoriajedrzejewska7287girl really wanted to be a famous killer like girl i honesty forgot you even existed she will never be famous like ted bundy, Richard Ramirez and others😂🤣

There’s a girl at my work that had her entire office covered in sticky notes with quotes from murderers… she’s definitely a killer in the works.

@ninaaaa1007

Жыл бұрын

yup. keep an eye on her

@oanamunteanu4744

Жыл бұрын

🥺😳😬Really? Try to ignore her

@ijustneedmyself

Жыл бұрын

See, I understand being fascinated by serial killers. They're so depraved and I can't help but wonder "how" and "why". What I don't get is idolizing these people. I can't fathom treating these people who destroyed so many lives as people to look up to. You really have to be a sick individual to do that.

@Blackhaze3000

Жыл бұрын

@@ijustneedmyself The movies made on them don't help anything, they get a good looking, charismatic person to play the role and therefore end up glamorizing....so now when people see Ted Bundy their also seeing Zac Efron

@ijustneedmyself

Жыл бұрын

@@Blackhaze3000 Yeah... It's not helpful at all. I could say true crime media isn't great either but that's a rabbit hole I would rather not go down in a KZread comment section 😅

If your heroes come with last names like Bundy and Ramirez, there's absolutely something wrong with you. You can be fascinated and horrified by those people, but to admire them or put pictures of them up on your walls speaks volumes about you as a person, and you're exactly the kind of person I stay as far away from as I can.

@HowardsCat

Жыл бұрын

Don't you talk about Al Bundy like that!

@bethmahadocon1887

Жыл бұрын

@@HowardsCat I feel so bad for laughing!

@ddjsoyenby

Жыл бұрын

exactly, these people need to be on a watchlist.

@samanthajacobs2827

Жыл бұрын

@@bethmahadocon1887 don’t feel bad! Al Bundy is hilarious 😂

@Sorchia56

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

This brought tears to my eyes. I pray people weren't so trusting on these dating sites. So so sad for this man

@sconartist

Жыл бұрын

I feel for the guy but let’s be honest play stupid games win stupid prizes..

@deSeriosa

Жыл бұрын

​@@sconartist i agree lol. Stop thinking with the little head and screen people properly. It's actually much harder for a woman to kill a man, without a gun, in combat and military training they make it clear. I honestly thought this girl was lucky that this guy had poor reaction and didn't go out fighting And "brought tears to my eyes"...that's a bit much.

@BeckieAmIRite

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, meeting someone half his age for a sh*g in the woods didn't work out? Colour me shocked.

@deSeriosa

Жыл бұрын

@@BeckieAmIRite a virgin teenager at that

@debramartinez3598

Жыл бұрын

@@BeckieAmIRite thank you!

Can we just appreciate the quality of this channel, and it’s free to watch! Thank you for all the effort you put in Adrian, better than all crime channels!

@jameztrekd

Жыл бұрын

on par with That Chapter imo

@Floedekage

Жыл бұрын

Page?

@loonawrld

Жыл бұрын

Agree!!! Thank you Adrian 🤍

@reginamushi6582

Жыл бұрын

@@Floedekage you know what they meant :-)

@whoisharo4689

Жыл бұрын

​@@jameztrekdmy tiff with That Chapter is that he jokes around too much- being a serious subject and all. 🤷‍♂️

12 years for premeditated murder. 12 years for a thrill kill. 12 years for a horrible monster. This is why I hate the "they are a minor" excuse. 12 years for taking a life of an innocent person for a sick fantasy. I understand that she had a disorder but she planned this and told her friends. I am furious this happens not only here in the states but in the rest of the world.

@shaysarn2235

Жыл бұрын

she was 18 at the time of the murder. what is this minor you speak of

@ryproar11

Жыл бұрын

@@shaysarn2235 the fact 18 is considered a minor in most states.

@Torriotorres

Жыл бұрын

If you want revenge, nothing is stopping you.

@shaysarn2235

Жыл бұрын

@@Torriotorres whose side are you on

@barbarapaige

Жыл бұрын

@@ryproar11 No, it is not. 18 is an adult in every state, able to vote, marry, join the military and consent to sex.

I don't understand how no one notices someone who's this mentally disturbed. Parents and friends seem to not take it seriously when a young person acts like her. It's scary.

@Drift_into_oblivion

Жыл бұрын

Every third woman acts like this it’s being called extra 😂

@ZoeAlleyne

11 ай бұрын

Because it is common. I acted like this, but minus the murder.

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

Noticing is one thing. Acting on it pre-emptively something entirely different. Applies to way more than murder.

@MadScientist267

8 ай бұрын

​@@ZoeAlleyneAnd that would be why

@ZoeAlleyne

8 ай бұрын

@@MadScientist267 hmm?

I'm from Nürnberg and I have never heard of this horrible case before 😳. I think she should be locked away for life, because I suppose she'll be looking for her next victim once out of prison. Anyway, thanks for your good work, Adrian. This is my favourite true crime channel.

@Lilly-df4qf

3 ай бұрын

Ich komme aus Aalen aber hab diesen Fall tatsächlich mitbekommen, er wurde so oft diskutiert, wie kann man ihn überhört haben?🤔😅

I can't believe all she got was 12 years. She should have gotten at least 25- life.

@entombed_kills

Жыл бұрын

She won't get out after 12 years. She may be never free again.

@HDGameTestChannel

11 ай бұрын

In germany this is pretty normal, that even murderers get sentences like this. For example Suleiman A, who killed a doctor with 20 stabbings in 2018 will be free soon. Only if you are very dangerous and are a repeated offender you can get something called "sicherheitsverwahrung" which is like a life sentence with parole.

@TR-707

11 ай бұрын

​@@HDGameTestChannelI got a feeling you are never out into real world after that sort of a crime

@hannahp1108

11 ай бұрын

@@TR-707 There are very few cases in Germany where someone is never released

@HDGameTestChannel

11 ай бұрын

@@TR-707 i agree with you. Maybe that is the reason of the exploding stabbings and brutal homicides here. As everybody knows, especially previous offenders wich are used to this lifestyle, that you will come free again, even if you kill your opponent.

As a German it's sad that i rarely hear about such cases that happen in my homeland, especially as someone who deliveres newspapers out i still get barely exposure to murder/crime cases.

@jjongosaurushwasabi2757

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Fellow german here. I was so surprised when I heard about this because I never heard about it until now and I usually read the newspaper to catch up on things that happened. I can understand that it's a special case since she only was 18 at the time and we both know our law here so yeah. Most german cases I found out about were on the internet.

@julianaayala2001

Жыл бұрын

@Knowledge Is Contagious Pass It Around why does this matter? I’m not trying to be rude lol I just don’t understand why this matters in the context of what both commenters said.

@savagedragon79

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised people still read newspapers.

@julianaayala2001

Жыл бұрын

@Knowledge Is Contagious Pass It Around ohhhh lol okay I see now - thanks for explaining! :)

@Presca1

Жыл бұрын

I love how they won't give her real name but flash her picture everywhere in media.

That’s why you don’t glamorize those inhuman monsters called serial killer or any other criminals.

Adrian, welcome back! I just want to appreciate you and your work. In my humble opinion, you do the best work on reporting chrime stories. All the way from content, execution, never "going on" too much, or too little 🙏, to having a very pleasant demeanor and voice. I'm a big fan, so THANK YOU.

Words of wisdom. Hopefully you never HAVE to take this advice, but if you find yourself in a stabbing situation DO NOT TAKE THE BLADE OUT. Sometimes, it being impaled into you is the only thing stopping you from bleeding out. Don’t, under any circumstances remove the blade. Let the Doctor/surgeon do that.

@grantp4022

Жыл бұрын

I was told of a man who worked for a railway, maintaining box cars, and fixing things. He was doing work between 2 big box cars, when they abruptly moved, squishing him between them, with their connecting metal latches on both sides penetrating his body. He was stuck and still conscious until they moved the cars apart, and then he fell dead. I guess the metal latches he was impaled with were preventing him from bleeding out. Good advice.

As a person that was heavy on the goth, metal and occultist scenes during my adolescence and which became involved on the bdsm scene later in life I completely understand the girl that didn't believe she was going to do it. There always were those weird people that would come with most obvious lies to sound tough or brag, including at time criminal stuff. In the first case most people would just ignore and disregard them because the vast majority are harmless but the BDSM community usually goes further to exclude people like that from events because those people are not going to actually follow the rules that say everything has to be "Safe, Sane and Consensual", meaning what they practice isn't really BDSM but actual abuse.

@yourmum69_420

Жыл бұрын

there are bdsm events?? So like massive group orgies but with chains and whips?

DARN IT..i keep forgetting to get my coffee before I hit play on these videos!!! this guys channel is my new obsession!! going through his backlog of cases and man!!..woah...he has covered some deep stuff!!!

My favorite true crime channel.Watching from Nairobi, Kenya.

Re-recorded? Man you’re a champ. Thanks for giving it another go for us!

It sounds like she actually told her friends, but the friends never took her serious. It is probably hard to take your friends serious when they clame something like that.

@alexnicolaou3579

Жыл бұрын

it's like the storyu of the boy who shouted "WOLF", until a wolf really appeared but no one believed.. a classic

@norml.hugh-mann

Жыл бұрын

They just said "yeah yeah, now take them panties off"

@missbae28

Жыл бұрын

I believe people are just stupid and ignorant😮 if i live in America i wouldn't doubt anyone saying they've killed or about to kill. So many psychos there

@defyyourlogic487

Жыл бұрын

@@missbae28 This isn’t even an American story there inferiority complex.

@spartan113ish

Жыл бұрын

Claim*

Adrian you do a wonderful job with all of your episodes! Caring and concise. I can only imagine that these stories and the effort you put into them takes a heavy toll on your spirits and mental wellbeing. PLEASE take care and look after yourself.

As already commented on, thank you for you for helping to open people's minds around Borderline personality disorder. My experience of it is more internal and about hurting myself rather than other people.

So I am from Nuremberg (where Sayid was from) and as a local I barely heard anything about the case. So this video was telling wayyyyy more than the two articles in pur local newspaper 👏

@btrueeth

Жыл бұрын

I think no local will hear about it if its not trumpeted through TV and all. I read newspapers and articles here in the US and learn about a lot of crimes. But, I am sure, I have only read about those that get reported.

@samanthajacobs2827

Жыл бұрын

Other local have stated the same thing. I must spend way too much time watching True Crime, because I heard if this case a while ago, before she went to trial. That being said, I can see how it’s hard to find out information in your own town though. I found a person hanging once in the park down the street from my house, and never heard a thing about it after talking to the police. Still gives me nightmares.

@Alejojojo6

Жыл бұрын

He wasnt from Nuremberg or Germany, he was from Iraq

@btrueeth

Жыл бұрын

@@Alejojojo6 So? He lived in Nuremberg and probably had German citizenship. Either way he had family and friends that loved him and he didn't need to die like that.

@xxxxxx-rm1vd

Жыл бұрын

@@Alejojojo6 well alright he was living and working in Nuremberg. Better?

It IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that the individual IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND there is ABSOLUTELY NO doubt that she WOULD go on to commit more murders given the chance!!! Therefore, she MUST remain locked up for the REST OF HER LIFE!!!!!!!

@jakobrose8278

Жыл бұрын

But why? She only killed a simp. Simps aren't people. There's a reason why "simp" rhymes with "chimp" you know.

@jamierose6046

Жыл бұрын

Your use of capitalized words is a crime!

@jakobrose8278

Жыл бұрын

@@jamierose6046 *Cowers in fear* ... AnTi-SeMiTiSm!

@it-ke9od

Жыл бұрын

I'm on my way!

@whitneyangelie3682

Жыл бұрын

I hope your caps lock is broken cuz if not your attempt at italicizing words is brutally awful 😂😂😂

I've been binge watching your channel for a couple of days now and had to thank you. You're one of the few channels that treat your subjects with respect while still being entertaining and engaging. Maybe it's because I'm a boomer, but I really appreciate that you cover these events as what they are; horrific crimes that destroy the lives of victims and their loved ones. Don't change a thing

Seriously, with all you do in your videos and the effort you put into it. I have extra respect and appreciation since knowing you're a one-man show. Not an easy task. Thank you for quality content and professionalism

As always the respect you show for the victim is unmatched thank you so much for that! 🎉

This will always be my favorite crime channel. Your well-researched, relaxed and respectful (esp to the victims) narration is what makes watching your stories so worthwhile. Thanks, Adrian!

@stephendacey8761

Жыл бұрын

Bottom line: It's easy to follow his narration and he finds interesting cases that nobody has heard of.

Just joined your channel last week and glad to see you posted yesterday! I love your narration and the details you provide with the cases! Keep em coming!!😊

I love this channel! Perfect length for each case as well

I was diagnosed with BPD 20 years ago. I never killed or wanted to kill someone. I could understand someone with BPD hurting or killing someone in the heat of the moment, if they are in ''crisis'', but this murder was planned and carried out. The ''I have BPD'' defense is bullshort in this case.

@killinglonliness88

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but "bullshort" made me LOL. But as someone who has BPD as well, yes I fully agree with what you said. Spot on.

@Adrienneten

Жыл бұрын

Another BDP suffer here - I am high functioning and work full time. I have a major crisis periodically - not one in the last 12 months now...... I have major issues and can't be around people as I don't trust my emotions to keep me safe. It's not difficult to work with professionals to find coping mechanisms, you just have to want to engage. I am so please with how Adrian touched on this diagnosis too. Very fair IMO.

@meanberryy

Жыл бұрын

Having bpd my self I can understand (but never defend) the motive. It was most likely a desperate attempt to kill the big empty. No this doesn't excuse it one bit or mean bpd made her do it, but I could understand why it would motivate it.

@mikewilson8600

Жыл бұрын

I also have BPD also and people without BPD seem not to understand their are 269 different types of borderlines and only a certain type is narcissistic dominant. These are the people in our groups who would ignore other group members in obvious distress and babble on about nothing.

@loobielou6965

Жыл бұрын

I also have BPD, and I absolutely understand how another sufferer can go down this path. I have always said to my psychiatrist that I'm glad there's no such thing as the thought police because if there was I would definitely be locked up for life without parole.

12:27 imagine someone telling you "I have a surprise, close your eyes" and you can feel the knife at your throat, terrifying story

@analegon5739

Жыл бұрын

Can't trust anyone anymore these days 💯🤨🧐

@neonicon8500

Жыл бұрын

Sounds hot to me

@vollied4865

Жыл бұрын

​@@neonicon8500 seek help

@findmusicc4000

Жыл бұрын

@@vollied4865 I agree with kangarooster actually

@Sniperboy5551

Жыл бұрын

I know a few chicks who would be into that

I have found myself not finishing your videos and falling a sleep that’s how well you relieve my stress & unwind! Maybe I should have a coffee Thankyou Adrian

another great video Adrian, and team! also coffeehouse crime has got to have one of the nicest communities on youtube, even though we talk about and listen to dark things, there's always positivity and love in the comments. proud to be a part of it. ❤

Holy cow, I'm from one of the neighboring villages of Forchheim and I've never heard of this terrifying case. Started watching Coffeehouse Crime to learn about the sinister crimes being committed in far away places, but eventually did learn about the sinister crimes being committed a short drive from my doorstep. Great video, as always.

@rorosp5443

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I too haven't heard of it although I live in the region. It's good that Germany doesn't over expose killers or romanticize them as is in America

@Schnittertm1

Жыл бұрын

I live close to the place where the photo of the victim was taken, it's in walking distance. It was taken in the area behind the Nuremberg City Hall with a view of the street leading to the Hauptmarkt. Certainly an interesting turn of events, to get a case from Mittelfranken.

@alexnicolaou3579

Жыл бұрын

@@Schnittertm1 yep been there too, had a holiday in Bavaria (Greding village and Nuremberg) in 2019, i may even have a photo in that exact spot..

@yatshie8717

Жыл бұрын

I wish he would cover the case of Luise F. that happened in Freudenberg but there's literally nothing to find about it online because the murderers where only 12 and 13 year olds. This one was so disturbing I'm still shaken by it...

@judybrown7601

Жыл бұрын

What is bpd?

You may feel jet lag, but your puns and humor is spot on 😂. I sure didn’t notice an abruptness our definition of abruptness must be vastly different 😂. All I noticed was a great presentation, as always. Catch up on your sleep 😴, and thank you for still posting.

My ex suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder, and is a meth addict. The last time I saw her was when she woke me up at 3:30am, after breaking into my house, by punching me in the face...she was obviously high as hell, but I didn't care, I landed a couple elbow strikes upside her head then put her into a "bare naked choke" til she damn near passed out. I turned her over and put me knee on her chest and called SJPD...she's lucky I recognized her so she didn't get shot, cuz if I hadn't that would've been her last day on this planet...🤘🏻🇺🇸

I hate victim blaming but honestly in this case he kinda had it coming, first of all he was an almost 40 y/o dude who wanted to hook up with an presumably 18 y/o girl and while not illegal, is certainly fucking weird. And secondly like mentioned in the Video he fell for very obvious bait why would he even think she had interest in a man like him. And third and most importantly, if you dont know someone dont agree to meet up in a fucking shed in the woods at night.

Thanks for posting Adrian! We appreciate you. Love from across the ditch, New Zealand 🇳🇿

I just wanted to say thanks for not demonizing people with BPD. I have bipolar disorder myself, but there's a lot of overlap and both are still pretty stigmatized. I'm also a social work student, and it was VERY surprising to me how many of my classmates talked badly about people with BPD, saying they're manipulative and hard to care for. They're just people struggling greatly.

@jawaela

Жыл бұрын

Being manipulative is bad regardless. The difference is if the person struggling with BPD or bipolar seek help or just continue being a toxic person.

@ShaeRosalee

Жыл бұрын

@@jawaela Having a mental illness doesn't automatically make you toxic.

@jawaela

Жыл бұрын

@@ShaeRosalee I didn’t say it does? I said being manipulative is bad.

@lynsijaynesimpson

Жыл бұрын

@anna not all of us are toxic. The only toxic traits I have are inward aimed like self sabotage and self loathing. I've never been toxic toward anyone but myself. And I agree, without getting help, it can be a mental health issue that takes over your life and can destroy things. But bpd, bipolar etc are over stigmatized and that just makes things so much more difficult. If you open up to people and let them know, they distance themselves, or change how they see you or act. Or are horrified. The mental health issues that seem to overlap and fall under a similar umbrella seem to make people assume negative things. I feel if it was more widely taught about different mental health issues and personality disorders... They would get helped sooner, as well as being understood rather than ostracised x

@Sniperboy5551

Жыл бұрын

Borderline personality disorder is nothing like bipolar disorder, just saying.

I am one of those who suffer with BPD. I know how hard the emotional regulation is. It's absolutely maddening having to CONSTANTLY think about your words and reactions to absolutely every single thing happening to you in your life, but here I am. Never having murdered anyone. I didn't even know what I was suffering from until I was 30 years old, and still never did something so vile. People like her really make being a person with BPD even more difficult. It keeps people away from us, believing we are all insane and entirely too difficult to deal with and be around. But most of us are self aware and willing to try to not outwardly express...that's actually why so many of us self harm. Many of us are inward presenting, we don't try to harm others, only ourselves. She just used BPD as her shield and her own reasoning for doing what she did. How sad for this poor man and his family.

@aryaantajwar8743

Жыл бұрын

She truly just represents her vile nature as a person and nothing to do with BPD

@mayav927

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I have BPD too. I really like when people call out those who use it as a cover for their deeper issues

@Thefreeanimaldays

Жыл бұрын

I have BPD too and it sickens me when murderers use BDP as a cover for their heinous actions. It just makes us even more isolated.

@sothewalrus

Жыл бұрын

I have been diagnosed with BPD too. I am doing a lot better than when I was first diagnosed and I have had the support of my partner. Never have I wanted to kill somebody though nor have I attempted to. BPD doesn't make you kill people and it isn't a shield for violence.

@packnetadaija

Жыл бұрын

I have BPD too and what you are saying is spot on! I hate when people use their mental health as an excuse for them to do such horrible things to people

Thank you for speaking kindly about BPD even though she did something horrible, not all of us are willing or even want to do anything like that to another person.

I've missed you these last 2 weeks!!

“What was he thinking as he slowly bleed out?” I want to know what he was thinking meeting a woman saying she’s the Devil’s Bride willing to have a romp in an abandoned barn

@TrapezeMagician

Жыл бұрын

He probably thought it was just playing into the goth, BDSM thing she was going for

@mommy2libras

Жыл бұрын

Well, consider that he was 39 and she was 18. I'm pretty sure we all knew what he was thinking. However, if you're an almost 40 year old guy, the chances that a teenage girl wants to meet you in some isolated place and doesn't have something nefarious in mind are probably pretty low.

@nhmooytis7058

Жыл бұрын

Seriously!

@Colechamdiceman

Жыл бұрын

He was probably thinking of the other dozen times this has happened but ended with sex instead of assault... It's not uncommon for people to talk like that or meet in clandestine locals...

@blinklost

Жыл бұрын

He probably thought, dang I should have use my other head to think it through haha

She is what I call a 'pure psychopath' and should never be released from any incarceration, seriously why she never got life without parole is beyond me! Anyway, I hope you enjoyed you trip here down under Adrian and keep up the great coverages of true crimes that a majority of us wouldn't ever find out about and have taught me quite a few things about people whom committee these unbelievable crimes so thanks m8

@gezzapk

Жыл бұрын

Probably would have got life if it was a guy

@Tony.kayAmiri

11 ай бұрын

She'll do it again if released

@junikafer141

9 ай бұрын

Bc there ist no such thing as life without parole in Germany. 12 years ist actually big given that she was 18. It could have been much less. That ist how it works here. Hope she will be held longer than those 12 years.

Coffeehouse is the best to narrate the facts on these types of cases.

Whenever i feel like im not a normal person, i watch true crime videos

I' a German and I never heard of this case... Thank you for your good work, Adrian, and good luck for Australia 🌞

I live in Erlangen what is really close to Forchheim. It feels like yesterday when all of this happens and the puplic got notice. Its really sad and horrific what a human can do :(

@SkAtErOfLiVe

Жыл бұрын

Ich komm aus Nürnberg hätte niemals gedacht dass auf diesem Kanal was kommt aus meiner Gegend damn

As always, Coffeehouse Crime's ☕️ presentations of strange individuals are excellent! Thank you. Es ist furrückt! It's crazy. The bit of German I remember from high school! Not just the sentencing, but darkness of it!

Hope you had a great time in Australia. Great you are back at it.

I can just hear Bailey Sarian's voice yelling, "GET BETTER IDOLS!"

@sunnystormy4973

Жыл бұрын

-i hear ya-

@bhavikasicka7871

Жыл бұрын

Which is ironic, considering many women regard her an idol.

@ZoeAlleyne

11 ай бұрын

​@@bhavikasicka7871I think, and maybe I'm just being wacky here, regarding a contentious youtuber as an idol is not vaguely in the same league as idolising an actual serial killer. Hashtag hot take.

Adrian brother, you never fail to enlighten. A master of your craft. ❤

Thank you for the video. Keep up the good work!

She was 18 and considered a minor? And gets 12 years. God this is crazy.

Never feel like you have to apologize for your hard work or just simply living life, this is also your safe space to be yourself. This channel is one of the absolute best on YT and we appreciate you and the hard work you put in 😊

@samanthajacobs2827

Жыл бұрын

I agree! We all need our own time! I hope Adrian knows that we feel lucky to have him do this channel for us, and we totally understand 💕

@liv6150

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthajacobs2827I do too! The way he makes sure to show his condolences for the victims and family is so respectful and important when telling these stories, I also appreciate how in depth he goes and how easy it is to follow along. Definitely a lot of hard work goes into this and it’s very appreciated!

@helenstueber3943

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Adrian you are the best!

My ex suffered with bpd and its rather horrific and for those dating a sufferer, he wouldn't acknowledge this illness, I actually tried a lot of ways to help, in the end I finished the relationship after catching him on a dating site. bpd is no excuse to kill another at all, I've complex mental health issues but would not hurt others, as always a respectful upload Adrian.

@Sniperboy5551

Жыл бұрын

They’re nearly impossible to date, it takes everything out of you. I know exactly what you’re talking about, it’s tough. I feel bad for their families because they don’t just get to break up with them.

@nl-ho4wm

Жыл бұрын

Someone who doesnt want to acknowledge his illness is a walking red flag no matter what mental illness is because they dont want help.

@jr7845

Жыл бұрын

​@@nl-ho4wm 100% agree, I even spoke to his gp

@jr7845

Жыл бұрын

​@@Sniperboy5551 I think it stemmed from his mother and father, it nearly broke me tbh, thankfully 3 years on and I'm single and fine being so

@Lola-AreaCode212

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it can be beyond horrific. My relationship with an untreated pwBPD was the single most exhausting thing I've ever experienced in my life, and I've been through hell before that. I seriously can not find the words to describe it. I ended up in the hospital and was in an almost catatonic state for a while. Complete and total burnout. I gave my all. My everything and beyond. And was abused and accused endlessly. I didn't want to believe that he was beyond hope. I could honestly write a book about it. I'll always love him, but I'm going to stay as far away from him as possible for the rest of my life like I've been doing since years. There was and is no other way.

Great video Sir! No apology necessary!!!❤❤

Thank you so much for your story Adrian and for your great work

I’ve been a fan of true crime channels for years, and it’s amazing how quick Adrian has become my absolute fave along with Mike. Keep it up, you are awesome!

@MT-dh2tr

Жыл бұрын

Mike’s narration is all over the place. His jokes are tasteless…

@SandyMeeshell

Жыл бұрын

Me too!! Adrian and Mike are the best!! Bailey is right up there too 😉

@tomkee4479

Жыл бұрын

​@@MT-dh2tr he's not that bad lol. But I kinda get where ur coming from at least some of the time. Lol

@uniquegod1997

Жыл бұрын

EWU is awesome

@jupitersmoon3814

Жыл бұрын

No idea how anyone listens to Mike.. there is no comparison.. Adrian is the best!!

I’ve been with your channel for awhile now and I can’t seem to get enough. You have only been here since Dec 2020 and look how much you have grown ! Congratulations Adrian

@samanthajacobs2827

Жыл бұрын

Can’t believe it’s only been since then, feels like so much longer 😍

@Inari1608

Жыл бұрын

Right? I remember finding this channel when it had 200k subscribers :D

Thanks Adrian for another absolutely amazing video. Never a disappointment.

You are the best on KZread! I always looking forward to your crime cases :-) Greetings from Sweden!

Well done Adrian....even with the jetlag....you were just as kind and respectful as always!! Well told and documented video once again! Thank you!!!❤

@valsblueforrest2961

Жыл бұрын

Adrian, I wouldn't know you had jetlag. Your brilliance won't be covered by any cloud. Great as usual!

That is so sick & twisted, having pictures of a serial killer on her wall.

OMG my face when i heard that it is my hometown! how come i've never heard about that case. Thank you for covering it so well.

Good to see another episode Adrian I've been watching your channel for a while now hope your doing well 😀

Ramirez is one of THE MOST horrifying murderers particularly for what he did to a little girl who miraculously survived but the woman has no memory of the event from trauma. That this THING even invokes his name is as sick as it gets. Surprised she didn't want to be a Manson girl. She should NEVER see the light of day.

Ziad was planning on meeting up with a girl 21 years younger than him, who he thought was a virgin, to have bdsm sex in a shed in the woods. I mean.... yikes. Match made in heaven

Hi Adrian! Boise girl here!! Love your channel, thanks for the good work!

Lots of people have a 'rough childhood' and don't stab someone in the neck. She's a psycho.

Your production value and composure on camera have improved so much over the past couple of years. I really appreciate all of your hard work. You’re one of my favorite KZread creators.

I have BPD and that you that you were so kind to explain the basics❤❤I wish that more people would see us in a different light than Jody Arias and Amber Heard(and many others)❤ ….

Great work Adrian ❤❤❤

I don't understand how her friends can act like she was "normal" when some of them also confirmed they knew about her obsession with Ramirez. No normal person idolizes serial killers to the degree of putting pictures of them on their walls.

Man this is unbelievably sad. She couldn’t even help but wait just 5 min to kill him. She absolutely would have kept it going if she didn’t get caught so fast. Great episode, sad story!

Adrian - I admire the way you discussed mental health issues in this video. Thank you so much. I am bipolar and appreciate the kindness and understanding you gave to people like me who share mental health challenges. Your videos are always top-notch. Your voice calms me. Thanks for what you do. 💙💙

@bzipoli

Жыл бұрын

coffee always seems to give a thoughtful disclaimer about this kind of prejudice. i'm glad he's the one i chose to follow, he's very responsible

Almost 40 trying to sleep with a teenager ... not exactly an angel ... but still didn't deserve what happened. Sarah will kill again if she is let out ... she doesn't have a soul.

@Jade_Hanson

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how these comments are never made on videos of women being killed.

@Helga-fe5xl

11 ай бұрын

​@@Jade_HansonI haven't seen any cases covered by coffeehouse where the woman murdered was also a potential abuser/predator

@ZoeAlleyne

11 ай бұрын

​@Jade_Hanson it is crazy how men pursue power imbalanced sexual relationships at such a higher rate than women? I agree.

@melindaroop1346

10 ай бұрын

Yep! He didn't deserve what happened but oh well....if almost middle aged men would think with their brain instead of their 🍆 and stay away from teenagers .

@lean.2366

9 ай бұрын

​@@Jade_Hansonwhat's stopping you?

Hey Adrian thanks for another great video!! Glad you got to move to Australia🤗 as we all know how much you love the scenery! 🥳 Congratulations 👏🏼 keep doing what you do!

Thank you for releasing another case for us despite the jet lag! You are a champ, go rest. We will be here when you return 🖤

Two of my best friends have BPD. They are some of the kindest most caring people I know, mental illness never excuses sometimes like this, and people that hide behind their illness and perpetuate the “scary sick person” stereotype are some of the worst out there.

@JennyAmos

Жыл бұрын

❤

Thank you for being respectful of someone who has BPD so many see us as monsters when we just can't always regulate ourselves and a lot of us do our best and even get help and go into remission

She said she wanted to watch someone die - yet fled in terror once the deed was done - she is a poor shadow of those serial killers of whom she idolized