Sharpening End Mills On The Lathe

In this video I show you how I sharpened my dull end mills on my lathe. I setup the end mill in the correct position and use a makeshift tool post grinder to grind the flutes.
Full credit goes to Rob from the Xynudu channel for posting his end mill sharpening video which I used as a guide. You can see that video here - • How to sharpen a HSS e...

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  • @joell439
    @joell439 Жыл бұрын

    It’s always great when a plan works out. Rob was one of the very first KZread machinist I found when I started on this journey as a hobby machinist almost a decade ago. His kind and humble delivery is much like yours. I especially appreciate that you always give credit to the others that have helped you along the way as well. 👍👍😎👍👍

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Rob is a great guy. He was my first subscriber and actually did a plug for me on his channel when I first started which I really appreciated. Yes, it is only fair to give credit to other youtubers where I have used their ideas etc. Thanks for watching.

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons7488 Жыл бұрын

    On the high lonesome prairie where aspiring sharpeners may botch your sheep shears, this video is especially valuable to aspiring machinists. Thank you

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem. Thanks for watching.

  • @Xynudu
    @Xynudu Жыл бұрын

    Good result Jon. Thanks for the shout out. The perfectionists will always complain, but they probably have more money than sense ;) Cheers Rob

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem, and thanks Rob.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын

    Looks pretty good, I must say. Great idea. Necessity is the Mother of Invention. Well done. Take care, Ed.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ed.

  • @scottb8175
    @scottb8175 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that breaks the corners off end mills, especially those expensive carbide ones, is starting the cut at full feed speed on a hard square edge or corner of the material. Its like hitting the corner of the cutting edge with a sharp hammer blow. Unless I'm in a big hurry to get some mass production work out the door (and I have end mills I use for only that kind of quick and dirty work), I always start conventional milling cuts very gently. Start the cut by slow hand feed and then engage the feed drive. Same for breaking through the end of the cut. Disengage the power feed and gently ease the tool through the violent interrupted cut. When climb milling, I try to keep the impact angle of the flutes shallow to avoid the hammer effect. I rarely get broken corners on my end mills this way.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Those are great tips, thanks Scott.

  • @markhedquist9597
    @markhedquist9597 Жыл бұрын

    Not a machinist here, but I like watching machining videos and learning as much as I can about it. This was genius! Thanks for sharing the method.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @kevinwatts73
    @kevinwatts73 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, JP. Really brings those End Mills back to life.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. With just a bit of time it saves me going out and spending good money on new end mills.

  • @hernandezmay3117
    @hernandezmay31173 ай бұрын

    Almost makes me wanna dedicate my baby 7x10 harbor freight lathe into just an Endmill sharpener!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын

    Gday, I seen the video Rob did showing this, it’s a brilliant idea and it works, good quality cutter’s aren’t cheap and it’s frustrating when they dull off, brilliant job mate, Cheers

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much Matty.

  • @fredford7642
    @fredford7642 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great video. Very helpful and informative!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын

    this is fantastic, Bravo, cheers from the USA, Paul

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @jonsworkshop
    @jonsworkshop Жыл бұрын

    Well done, really good tip from Rob, typical Rob as well, incredibly simple but effective. Cheers, Jon

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jon. Yes, Rob does show a lot of simple, yet effective ways of doing things in his videos.

  • @timbarlow1674
    @timbarlow16744 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fabulous idea. Thank you.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    3 ай бұрын

    No problem.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! I watch Robby also but I guess I missed that one. Great results.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. I think Rob's video was released 9 years ago.

  • @hootinouts
    @hootinouts Жыл бұрын

    Superb video. I have to try this out as I have a lot of old end mills that need sharpening

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. You will be pleasantly surprised how easy it is, and how much of a good result you get when you do your first one. I was only taking light cuts so it took some time for each end mill. Just be patient.

  • @jerrypeal653
    @jerrypeal6535 ай бұрын

    Looks like a V10 lathe I have the 8 . 3 I believe with the mill attached. Handy . Good method for sharpening.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Yes, it is a V10-P. But, unfortunately it did not have the milling attachment when I brought it secondhand. It is a nice lathe but the spindle bore size is its biggest limitation. I purchased a larger lathe, but I'm also hanging on to this lathe as well.

  • @jerrypeal653

    @jerrypeal653

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz I also bought a bigger lathe but surprisingly I use the EMCO quite a bit . It’s just so convenient for small work.

  • @shinyribs2178
    @shinyribs2178 Жыл бұрын

    Buddy, I've got a shoebox full of worn end mills. You just saved me a mint!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @3in1Machining
    @3in1Machining7 ай бұрын

    Dam it, im same as you..... loads of damaged end mills and wondering how im going to get this sharpened. Brilliant idea. Its so obviously simple we tend to over complicate things . Thank you, really appreciated 🙏

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    6 ай бұрын

    No problem, glad I could help.

  • @jamienewman5419
    @jamienewman54192 ай бұрын

    Cheers from me here in the Waikato, I'm going to give something like this a go this weekend.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    2 ай бұрын

    Great. Let us know how you get on.

  • @jaquimboaz
    @jaquimboaz Жыл бұрын

    Great job mate. 🛠⚒

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @daveys
    @daveys Жыл бұрын

    That’s pretty impressive, will have to give that a try

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. It actually works really well.

  • @tano1747
    @tano1747 Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.... And more so, thanks for the effort that went into the video

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox Жыл бұрын

    I will give this a go one of these days. For sure.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Surprisingly it works very well. Don't throw away your old end mills. Save them up, then setup the lathe and grind them all in one session.

  • @neffk
    @neffk Жыл бұрын

    I have been doing similar touching up on some of my endmills. I have a D-bit grinder, though, so the relief angle can be set directly. However, many grinders use height adjustment and wheel diameter to set the relief angle, as you have done. The larger size mills are a good place to start because they're a lot more expensive to replace and, frankly, it's easier to see what you're doing. HSS is also a good choice. A non center-cutting endmill makes thing easier, too. If it's center cutting, you need a 3rd bevel and a narrow wheel to gash all but one of the cutting lips. I've been experimenting with a 0.035 diamond cutoff wheel. So far, I've sharpened up a 3/8 in solid carbide cutter. Your primary relief looks too wide but the cut looks fine. If you put marker on the primary grind and then do a cut in steel, rubbing will be revealed. Thanks for the video.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comments and suggestion.

  • @nilegod1
    @nilegod12 ай бұрын

    i have an old lathe with a bad motor and bearings. i use it for something like this, but i do it with old damaged drills to make flat bottom drills for blind holes. now ill use it for endmills too

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    2 ай бұрын

    Good idea. It will save you a lot from having to buy new endmills.

  • @JamesDoylesGarage
    @JamesDoylesGarage Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. I'll try it.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @Steviegtr52
    @Steviegtr52 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for showing. I have a few Clarkson HSS cutters that could do with a refresh. But some of them have wear on the side flutes too so would need reducing in size. I think some have been done in the past as the sizes are smaller than the size shown. Subbed Regards. Steve.

  • @michaelcripwell1724

    @michaelcripwell1724

    Жыл бұрын

    It may pay to chamfer the corner.obviously it will change the profile of the slot but could save it for roughing operations.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem. Thanks for watching.

  • @nairdacharles9492
    @nairdacharles9492 Жыл бұрын

    Nice. Thanks. Never thought of it. I think I'll make a tool post spindle to hold a slightly bigger wheel, maybe a 3 inch, with a universal motor. I think my tool post grinder might be too cumbersome and slow speed for this.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @bradwiebelhaus7065
    @bradwiebelhaus7065 Жыл бұрын

    Good idea.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @KathrynLiz1
    @KathrynLiz1 Жыл бұрын

    MMM... I have done big ones freehand with reasonable success but this is better. I do have a little pencil die grinder, so it should be easy to set up. Thanks for the Video... 🙂

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem.

  • @jerrypeal653
    @jerrypeal6537 ай бұрын

    Good job .

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @almacdonald2506
    @almacdonald2506 Жыл бұрын

    Your resharpening looks good and any plunge cutting should work well if there’s a pilot hole (non center cutting end mill shown in your video), however as you move the material past the end mill it’s the teeth on the side of the end mill that are doing the cutting so hopefully they are still sharp.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @TROUROCKS
    @TROUROCKS Жыл бұрын

    i dont have a lathe ,,,, only a mill and a rotary table with a 3jaw chuck .. soooo grinder in the mill . end mill in the 3 jaw on the rotary on a rightangle plate .. yes????

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    That could possibly work. But, don't turn on your mill...

  • @draganarc0131

    @draganarc0131

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I’ve done it that way.

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky Жыл бұрын

    Like the inventive way to do it :) and here's me wanting a tool cutting machine cause i am lazy haha

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын

    I just subscribed to your channel. Take care, Ed.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls2005019227 Жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel {subscribed}, excellent video! Not sure that I've caught Rob's video on this, but have seen Stan Zinkosky (shadonHKW) & This Old Tony sharpen end mills in various methods (mill, surface grinder, etc). Thanks

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for the sub. Yes, I have seen This old Tony's end mill sharpening video. I will do it that way if I'm ever lucky enough to find a cheap surface grinder.

  • @HuFlungDung2
    @HuFlungDung2 Жыл бұрын

    I like your spindle indexer. FWIW, you can make a lot of headway by roughing in the end flutes on a bench grinder before you get to the final grinding stage. In particular, grinding the secondary relief (farthest from the cutting edge) can be done by hand, and leave just a narrow zone about 1 mm wide to grind the primary relief without using up your little stone too quickly. But you need a good wheel with a square corner so as to get near the center. In practice, a CBN wheel is a great investment for grinding HSS, as it will hold its shape for a long time, and grinds cool, if you get it in a coarse grit like 100 or so. I never bother with grinding the OD of the flutes, as this often results in reduced gullet depth that clogs too easily with chips. Also, you are changing the rake of the tool as you reduce it's diameter, so it doesn't cut very well if you have taken much off. I only shorten worn endmills and regrind the end clearances. In actual fact, it really doesn't matter a hell of a lot if all the flutes are the exact same length. ONE of them will produce the finish on the surface anyways. and most guys aren't feeding the tool so hard that they'd notice any scalloping effect whatsoever. You actually buy commercial inserts for face mills and install ONE wiper insert (along with several normal quality cutting inserts) on it to produce the finish you want, so that shows how having them all 'the same' is really just a pipe dream. A slightly worn or damaged endmill can be brought back into service by grinding a corner chamfer on it, sufficient to remove the dulled tip. Yes, you do have to think about whether that is suitable for a particular job, but there plenty of selections you can make to save some money buying new.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips.

  • @RotarySMP
    @RotarySMP Жыл бұрын

    Nice one.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the visit

  • @TheRecreationalMachinist
    @TheRecreationalMachinist4 ай бұрын

    Like that. Thanks for sharing 👍 🇬🇧

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    4 ай бұрын

    No problem. Thanks for watching.

  • @josejaviercalatayud8338
    @josejaviercalatayud833819 күн бұрын

    great video thanks a lot for share , some question: 1. how many rpm ?? 2.which diameter stone do you think is better?? 3.height variation , do you use for the diferent part of end mill?? 4 some expirience whir cardide end mill?? excuse me for the numbers , and thanks a lot again .

  • @martinwade7824
    @martinwade78244 ай бұрын

    It didn't make sense until I played banjo music to your video... ; )

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching. I use to know an old man with a mandolin.

  • @johnlovett8341
    @johnlovett8341 Жыл бұрын

    Daddy. Where's my dinosaur blanket??? 🦖 🦕 😭 Nice vid!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that was from a sheet my now 22 year old Son used when he was around 5. We had a clean out of the cupboards about a month ago and I scored some good rags.

  • @1957mrbill
    @1957mrbill Жыл бұрын

    Would using the top face of the grinding stone give a smoother grind? It would also eliminate the curve of the wheel.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    It probably would give a better finish, but its the curve of the wheel and raising the center height of the wheel which gives the 5 and 30 degree clearance angles. Well.... that probably also depends on the diameter of the wheel as well.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop Жыл бұрын

    Good work there. All I have to sharpen my end mills is a purpose built tool cutter grinder made by a former club member.. (Sorry for bragging) I see the black looking end mill. That might be carbide in which case it is very expensive and will need a diamond wheel or a green wheel rather than the standard HSS grindind wheels. (That said your wheel was green)

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ben. Yes, I think that end mill is carbide.

  • @taranson3057
    @taranson3057 Жыл бұрын

    I’m in need of sharpening some end mills. Would it be better to use an ER32 or ER40 chuck instead of a 3 or 4 jaw chuck?

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    An ER32 or ER40 chuck may have less run out than a 3 jaw chuck if the 3 jaw chuck is worn.

  • @taranson3057

    @taranson3057

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz I have a Chinese made 3 jaw P.O.S.

  • @MethMeister23
    @MethMeister232 ай бұрын

    great idea & video. just a quick question, why do you tighten down a nut on the top of your tool holder? does it help with holding tolerance? just curious. thank you!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, thanks for your question. That is just a locking nut to lock the height of the tool holder. The black round thumb wheel below the nut adjusts the height of the tool holder. When you have the height set, you tighten the lock nut so that the black wheel cant move. That allows you to keep the same tool height when you remove and replace the tool holder. I hope that helps.

  • @MethMeister23

    @MethMeister23

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnzoh, that makes sense. thanks for the answer!... im a manufacturing student in highschool so im not that knowledgeable in how to be precise😅

  • @maco8799
    @maco87994 ай бұрын

    hi have you made forming tools for the lathe? I want to make a couple of internal interrupted cuts but I am having a devil of a job grinding the hss...

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    4 ай бұрын

    I have ground up some forming tools. It does take a while to grind HSS. The stone I have is quite course as well. It would take longer if you have a fine stone. I have used a cut off wheel in an angle grinder to cut the bulk off some tool blanks. But, I don't know if that would work for the shape that you want.

  • @michaelunderwood5138
    @michaelunderwood5138 Жыл бұрын

    Great job mate. Its always a good thing when you are able to resurface your own cutting tools. Now question is was that just beginners luck or will it be consistent with the other end mills. Have a great day mate and as we say it in the south "yall be good now ya hear"

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for watching. Yes it was consistent. I sharpened all of the end mills in the red container.

  • @Carlos230023
    @Carlos230023 Жыл бұрын

    People can say what they like, proof in the puddin's in the eatin'. That looked like a really easy clean pass at the end there, might try this on a dovetail cutter I managed to blunt trying to do a single pass on some thin wall Carbon Fibre tubing (I know I know, should'a used carbide)

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it may work on dovetail cutters as well. Let us know how you get on, and thanks for watching.

  • @samdude1953
    @samdude1953 Жыл бұрын

    Great info, thanks! It appears you use a variable speed grinder turned up to full speed. Have you experimented with slower speeds? Also, it appears that a finer stone would produce a better surface finish on the cuts. Nevertheless, it's clear your current setup produces the desired results. Thanks again!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for watching. That is at about 70% of its top speed. I initially tested it at 100% but there were some vibrations at that speed, so I dialed it back a bit.

  • @terrycannon570
    @terrycannon5708 ай бұрын

    I really do like the idea. I have some that I need to sharpen and repair. My only concern is this method leaves a radius cut rather than a flat cut, How does that affect the way they cut if any?

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your question. I have not noticed any issues with the radius. Note that it is only the front edge that does the cutting. The flat (or radius in this example) is at an angle for relief so it technically should not touch the material being milled.

  • @terrycannon570

    @terrycannon570

    8 ай бұрын

    Fantastic. Thanks very much for the rapid response. What did you use for the tool post grinder. I bought myself a new Makita router to make one from. @@thehobbymachinistnz

  • @volksdeutschewaffenss9670
    @volksdeutschewaffenss9670 Жыл бұрын

    there is a better easy way to grind endmills by Harold hall, useing a square block and a bench grinder, its so simple and much easier, also no grinding dust on your lathe, google Harold hall, he shows the plans for a simple jig used with a home bench grinder, cheers mate

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I will take a look.

  • @user-yd7mp1py2x
    @user-yd7mp1py2x7 ай бұрын

    Доброго дня,Какой угол лезвий которые закрашены, 5 градусов?

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    7 ай бұрын

    Я не знаю точного угла. Поднимаю точильный камень на 2мм. Это означает, что резка выполняется в нижней половине колеса, а форма колеса дает вам угол. Например. колесо большего диаметра даст меньший угол.

  • @groot9976
    @groot9976 Жыл бұрын

    I should try this way

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Bugsy0333
    @Bugsy0333 Жыл бұрын

    When you sharpen and end mill are you reducing the diameter ?

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, no not with this method. The end mill will get a little shorter depending on how much grinding is required to clean it up. We are grinding just the ends of the end mill so the diameter remains the same.

  • @Bugsy0333

    @Bugsy0333

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz Thanks

  • @Wiking419
    @Wiking4198 ай бұрын

    I guess you can probably sharpen HM end mills using the same method but diamond stone.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, possibly.

  • @antonhuman8446
    @antonhuman8446 Жыл бұрын

    Darren Conway is correct. But the machine has to be protected. Very nice work. Sir!

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you kindly.

  • @Jabba410
    @Jabba410 Жыл бұрын

    Why not spin the endmill before "backing off" with the desired clearance? Its how I was taught in the toolroom during my apprenticeship. Roughing it out first negates any wheel wear as you'd change to a finer wheel for finishing while having a visual tiny "land" to finish with that improves edge life.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    That could work, thanks for watching.

  • @samuelsnyder5169
    @samuelsnyder5169 Жыл бұрын

    Man and here I am sharpening them with an angle grinder and a cutting wheel

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess any bit of sharpening is better than a blunt end mill. Thanks for watching.

  • @gvet47
    @gvet47 Жыл бұрын

    So when can I send you my dull mill cutters for a grinding job since you have the setup and I don't? 😉

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Send them through anytime and don't forget to send your credit card number as well!!

  • @roberttownshend3050

    @roberttownshend3050

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz And tell him you won't need his address as you won't be sending them back 🤔

  • @Preso58
    @Preso58 Жыл бұрын

    Great way to turn munted tooling into sharp tools. I have lots of munted tools!🙄

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark. Also, I saw you put a note and photo on Instagram about your visit to my shop. Thanks for that.

  • @Preso58

    @Preso58

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz Jon, I put a link to your channel on my latest video (I also pinched a screenshot of your home page and some clips of the vice). Hope you don't mind😉

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Preso58 I don't mind at all Mark. Thanks for doing that, most appreciated.

  • @ryanclarke2161
    @ryanclarke2161 Жыл бұрын

    I spent 800 on carbide endmills today, none of this for me.

  • @timothyhackett7372

    @timothyhackett7372

    Жыл бұрын

    until you chip it...

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Carbide is nice to work with.

  • @danhayward9186
    @danhayward9186 Жыл бұрын

    High speed steel you cab grind them red hot

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, HSS can take a lot of heat. Although I don't think there is as much heat here as there is with hogging out a HSS lathe tool on a bench grinder. About that comment re discoloration from Linda Vasserman, I wonder if she has confused the blue sharpie marks with over heating?

  • @danhayward9186

    @danhayward9186

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz Use black sharpie for the dull ones amounst us

  • @timhofstetter5654
    @timhofstetter5654 Жыл бұрын

    Is that a green silicon carbide stone? For STEEL? Big mistake, if so. Never use silicon carbide for grinding steel. Never use diamonds for that, either.

  • @nairdacharles9492

    @nairdacharles9492

    Жыл бұрын

    I know about diamond, but never heard that about silicon carbide. What's the reason why not?. What should we use?.(actually I think those cheap little wheels are just green Al.oxide, but I'm not sure)

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what it is. It came in the kit with the grinder. If silicon carbide is expensive, then this is probably not silicon carbide as it was one of the cheaper kits.

  • @timhofstetter5654

    @timhofstetter5654

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz Keep an eye on it. It might work out OK. They usually make the green ones from silicon carbide, which erodes badly when it gets hot next to steel sparks. Alumin(i)um oxide (pink stones) stays together well against steel. You'll know very soon if this is a silicon carbide wheel by the way it erodes away. You can keep a pink stone sharp without dressing for a long, long time but a SillyCarb stone will wear off and blunt and glaze over badly as the carbon crystals melt and are absorbed by the iron, leaving only the substrate behind. SiC isn't expensive, but it gets to be a PITA to keep it in stock when it wears away almost as fast as the steel you grind with it. 8) You may do five hundred end mills with a pink stone but only five with a SiC stone. The more end mills (and other stuff) you sharpen in one swat, the more important it becomes... because... If your stone wears appreciably as you do one flute, then it'll be smaller when it does the next flute, and smaller still when you do the fourth (or sixth). That means that one flute will always be appreciably longer than the others and will do the bulk of the work, wearing out worse than the others. Your goal is to try to make all the flutes the same length within some ridiculously small tolerance, so you want a long-wearing stone and you want to make one final pass on all flutes, just kissing the steel lightly, to level them up.

  • @irishwristwatch2487

    @irishwristwatch2487

    Жыл бұрын

    You want the blue ones for steel, theyre absolutely brilliant

  • @darrenconway8117
    @darrenconway8117 Жыл бұрын

    Really bad idea to use any sort of fabric around any moving machinery. If it gets tangled, it quickly turns into a rope that can pull something into the machine. Much safer to use any sort of paper. If I want to capture grit, I spray the paper with oil to make it sticky.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, that is a great tip.

  • @assyholey4224

    @assyholey4224

    Жыл бұрын

    I rub Cosby sauce on my 4 lathe's.

  • @EitriBrokkr

    @EitriBrokkr

    10 ай бұрын

    He wasn't running the lathe, settle down Mr. Health & Safety

  • @darrenconway8117

    @darrenconway8117

    10 ай бұрын

    @@EitriBrokkr Are you forgetting those that watch these videos to learn? They should learn never to have fabric near a spinning thing.

  • @EitriBrokkr

    @EitriBrokkr

    10 ай бұрын

    @@darrenconway8117 stop trying to be the internets mom. No one cares. And your opinions are nonsensical. If someone can manage to hurt themselves with an abrasive stone on a dremel, and a towel...well that's just darwinism.

  • @Dior9000
    @Dior90007 ай бұрын

    use carbide my guy

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @timhofstetter5654
    @timhofstetter5654 Жыл бұрын

    You really beat up your end mills, don't you? 8) It's good to see someone else using a Donegan Optical OptiVisor. You need an inspection mirror. You'd do well to make a tent and set up a box fan to suck the grinding swarf out of the tent.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Yes, the optivisor really helps. I saw a video from MrPete222 so decided to get one. I should have got it years ago.

  • @timhofstetter5654

    @timhofstetter5654

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thehobbymachinistnz I own three of the darned things now... I bought my first... oh, heck. Forty years ago? Something like that. Before I saw the Southern Lights for the first time. 8)

  • @Raul28153
    @Raul28153 Жыл бұрын

    in a three jaw? It'd be bad enough in collets. At least ya protected the ways. That itty bitty stone is going to wear too dramatically to be consistent across four faces.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @Bob_Adkins

    @Bob_Adkins

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why he sparks out a couple of times.

  • @guytech7310
    @guytech7310 Жыл бұрын

    Not a good idea to grind in your lathe as the abrasive will get into the ways and spindle bearing. If you must grind on your lathe. put towel down in the ways and use a vaccuum when your grinding.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes that is true. Thanks for watching.

  • @timmer9lives

    @timmer9lives

    Жыл бұрын

    Great Video. And of course….It’s not a good idea to do a ton of grinding on a lathe and not to use pressurized air to clean debris and etc….etc…etc. That said, I’ve got a War Time South Bend lathe. And I use a rag when I grind around my lathe. And if I remember, I also wipe down everything to remove any oil present so that dust doesn’t stick. So, I grind stuff on my lathe and I use an air gun for my chuck at times. And I break rules. “Long story short”…..in the end, I’m sure that my lathe will be just fine. I’m 62 and a hobbyist. I’ll be six feet under and somebody else will be using my lathe when I’m gone. Damned thing works fine and it’s 75 years old. God only knows the abuse it has already seen.

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timmer9lives Thanks for your comments Tim. Yes, taking precautions when grinding on the lathe will enhance its life.

  • @dannyzuko1843

    @dannyzuko1843

    Жыл бұрын

    It sure is amazing that Mr. Dumore sold as many tool post grinders as he did. Do you suppose he was getting kickbacks from the major lathe manufacturers?

  • @Bob_Adkins

    @Bob_Adkins

    Жыл бұрын

    Funny thing about grinding grit, it won't hurt ways or precision equipment 1 bit just laying on them. Wipe the grit off the ways before using them, and no harm is done. Only thing moving is the cross slide and head, which are (I assume!) protected from grit.

  • @Migman2020
    @Migman2020 Жыл бұрын

    i hope you know that is a good way to destroy the lead screws in your lathe... that dust is horrifically abrasive bud

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I had some rags there, but I will go and clean the lead screw just in case.

  • @littlejackalo5326

    @littlejackalo5326

    Жыл бұрын

    It will be just fine. Doing a bit of grinding every once in a while isn't a big deal. The amount that gets around the protection is inconsequential.

  • @Migman2020

    @Migman2020

    Жыл бұрын

    @@littlejackalo5326 its the dust that is too small to see which is the problem.. trust me it gets everywhere.

  • @user-xh9bc7sd6j
    @user-xh9bc7sd6j Жыл бұрын

    This is a poor and incorrect method of sharpening a cutting edge. The worst thing is the discoloration on the tool, this indicates that the metal has been overheated, which means that its cutting properties have deteriorated and subsequently it will become dull again faster. Second, an emphasis is needed for precise positioning of the tooth. The stop will make the correct fixation of all the teeth of the cutter. Thirdly, the lathe chuck for sharpening cutters is not suitable as the lathe itself, the lathe chuck will not provide the maximum allowable runout for a 0.02mm universal tool. The dremel spindle itself does not have rigidity, but these are additional vibrations and beating of the grinding wheel. Sharpen the tool correctly, on the appropriate equipment and do not do amateur work!

  • @williamclark77

    @williamclark77

    Жыл бұрын

    I love when a know-it-all Internet troll with no channel content shows their ignorance. 1. Incorrect. It's high speed steel. It's still just as hard now. It wasn't affected enough to be noticed by use in the home shop. 2. Incorrect - if I'm deciphering your "Engrish" correctly. He used a stop for accuracy. But, as long as the cutting edge gets sharp and clearances are there so no dragging, then it will cut fine. 3. Incorrect. A three jaw law chuck, even a worn out one with .008" of runout, is plenty accurate enough for sharpening the bottom face of an endmill. 4. His setup was plenty rigid for grinding something so small. Very little tool force is applied. Comment on things you understand, in an appropriate way, and do not be a troll.

  • @user-xh9bc7sd6j

    @user-xh9bc7sd6j

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamclark77 You shouldn't be concerned about my lack of content. If you don't like something, you shouldn't open the comments under the video.

  • @jaredrattray

    @jaredrattray

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamclark77 Yes how dare us poors re-sharpen our endmills without using a proper T&C grinder worth thousands of dollars! I have personally used Rob's method and it works great, costs next to nothing - and believe it or not without wringing your hands and grinding your teeth about the suitability of the lathe for the job or the maximum allowable runout.

  • @bowez9

    @bowez9

    Жыл бұрын

    Guess hand sharpening a drill is wrong too.

  • @littlejackalo5326

    @littlejackalo5326

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks LiNdA. Just what we all needed, your armchair expertise, about something that obviously worked out just fine. Derrrrrp.

  • @luckytoolroomskills
    @luckytoolroomskills8 ай бұрын

    Super bro #luckytoolroomskills

  • @thehobbymachinistnz

    @thehobbymachinistnz

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you.