There's no way you're thinking of shaq as a great off ball player, these analyses literally never fail to teach me something new about the game or the player. Keep up the excellent work Ben

@benjaminan1183

3 жыл бұрын

Most think of Shaq as one of the best lob finishers & offensive rebounders, and know he's not a ball handler.

@SuperCatacata

3 жыл бұрын

You can't be one of the most dominant big men and also be useless off ball. Post game is all about creating space and gaining positioning on your opponent.

@starkk19

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how he was in Orlando or Miami but the Triangle required him to move off-ball a lot rather than just keep repositioning in the post. It's one of the beauties of the triangle that teams like the Spurs and the Warriors adopted.

@JayBiggz

3 жыл бұрын

Huh? Getting in position is one of his biggest strengths. If you’re just learning that then you weren’t really aware of his game at all

@steph899

3 жыл бұрын

No one thinks of him as a Charles Barkley type post player who just backed you down for several seconds before looking to score but to hear that he was arguably the greatest off ball center ever is a huge statement

Man called shaq's opponents "his victims"

@kalimanj

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😭

@pickzkickz

3 жыл бұрын

Shaq was Dreams victim.🤣

@xz9z29

3 жыл бұрын

@@pickzkickz not really. when they met shaq outplayed him multiple times. give me shaq over hakeem any day. all time Lakers PG-Magic SG-Kobe- SF-Lebron PF-Anthony Davis C-Shaq. put that vs the all time rockets team and watch them win by 30😂😂

@sharifbrown3567

3 жыл бұрын

@@xz9z29 The All Time Rockets team is trash though.

@xz9z29

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharifbrown3567 now i can tell you know nothing about basketball lol😂😂😂 James harden is avetgaing 15 assists on the nets right now,so PG-Harden, SG-Clyde Drexler, SF-Scottie Pippen PF-Charles Barkley,C-Hakeem. then you have ralph sampson,kenny smith,Russel Westbrook,John Wall,Chris Paul,Dwight howard,christian Wood,demarcus cousins who was a beast before his achilis popped and thats just off the top of my head. im not saying they would beat the loaded lakers team but hakeem often dominated Shaq,and prime harden can abuse magic and drop 40 points. i dont see harden clamping magic tho with his post moves so would be a fun and competitive game. rockets bench has way better scorers and lakers bench has much better defenders.

All this old Sabonis footage reminds me what a tragedy it was that we never got to see prime Sabonis in the NBA.

@mq830

3 жыл бұрын

Instead we get to see his son, which is a pleasure in itself. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Great basketball talent.

@xz9z29

3 жыл бұрын

@@mq830 sabonis had the chance to win 10 rings and be the goat if he was as good as people thought he was. he was considered a 7ft2 C with shaq like strength,wilt like athleticism,larry bird 3pt shooting,magic johnson level passing,hakeem defense,kareem post moves. if he turned out like that its game over. his son will never get anywhere near goat status

@ralx225b

3 жыл бұрын

@@xz9z29 He was not anywhere near as athletic as Wilt.

@sed1589

3 жыл бұрын

@@xz9z29 that's definitely all just exaggerated. I'm sure he was a phenomenal talent but that's just ridiculous.

@milosjovicevic6083

3 жыл бұрын

@@xz9z29 Holy shit you are delusional 😂

"Great range-not quite to the Foul Line, we'll get to that in a minute" I *died*

I know this is a Shaq video but I swear this is the most Wilt footage I’ve ever seen in my life😂

@dhanijoseph6849

3 жыл бұрын

@The Ultimate Your definitely right with that point, probably only true basketball historians actually have watched Wilt footage. The rest probably look at the stats and compare the eras they played in.

@gabrielantunez7642

3 жыл бұрын

@The Ultimate because it's a pain to watch wilt footage. If he was so good he could have at least win a couple more championships

@themaninblack8271

3 жыл бұрын

@The Ultimate its subjective ive watched almost every wilt footage i can and a fave channel of mine is the wilt chamberlain archive but I agree with Wilt himself talking about Shaqs rookie season that he was better than him if he wanted to be which imo he was in his best years and like Wilt said Shaq had an aggression and a will to dominate and attack the basket that he never had in him

@guillermovazquez1084

3 жыл бұрын

U need to watch the video where he compares him an Bill

@jesuschrististhelord9937

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielantunez7642 maybe because he played better teams than his, and played a super team every year of his career? What about not having the help to be able to dethrone the celtics until 67, not to mention losing game 7s where he couldn’t do anything about it because he was no where near the actions that caused him to lose.

The Basketbal Yokozuna is by far the most perfect description of Shaquille I have ever stumbled upon in my nearly three decades of existence.

One thing that should be mentioned is that in Wilt's era referees were MUCH stricter on offensive fouls; if Wilt had bullied guys in the post like Shaq did he would have fouled out in the first quarter

@frank-xp6pj

2 жыл бұрын

Now there’s a real comment , checkout my comment above, I basically said the same thing you said.👍

@waynesulak1488

2 жыл бұрын

Not only were the refs on the lookout for Wilt's offensive fouls, the league went so far as to change the rule book specifically to hamper Wilt. On the other hand they specifically helped Shaq by preventing his foul shooting problems at the end of games. Wilt was forced to play to his weaknesses and Shaq was pandered to by the NBA by not requiring him to shoot free throws and allowing him to elbow guys in the face with his off arm when shooting the hook. watch the finals against Mutombo on the sixers. it was sad that he had to resort to that when he outweighed Mutombo by 100 lbs.

@reedsullivan8755

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Shaq never offensive fouled anyone. Throwing your ass into a guy is legal. In fact, it’s fundamental rebounding. If you use an elbow when backing down a guy then it’s offensive. What Shaq was doing was 100% legal. Watch Zion-him and Shaq actually got/get fouled way more than officials call. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a massive Wilt fan-he’s number 2 behind MJ for me. But Shaqs peak was truly incredible and all legal

@universalplayz7496

2 жыл бұрын

@@reedsullivan8755 bro it's legal because of the Era he played in lol if wilt dared dip his shoulder into the oppisitions chest immediate offense foul and shaq did many little elbows when moving around and when the dude that 100lbs more then someone def hurts the things shaq does today would get him to foul out in 1 quarter in the 1960s

@diogogarcez9519

2 жыл бұрын

@@reedsullivan8755 How a guy that has inflated numbers due to the super high possessions he had on his time and the midgets - compared to him -, that he played against is number 2 in your all time list?

I remember reading that Shaq purposefully bulked up because other huge centers like Sabonis and Luc Longley had low centers of mass and had success pushing him out of the lane. Kind of wish we had a longer glimpse of Orlando Shaq with the extra mobility, as seen with his career highs in rebounds and blocked shots.

@coreygolphenee9633

2 жыл бұрын

He's just so fun to watch back to the basket just making dudes fly backwards tho I'll take the tradeoff

@geordiejones5618

2 жыл бұрын

Young Shaq was crazy its a shame he couldn't win with the Magic

@jackmclane6961

2 жыл бұрын

If Orlando shaq stayed through his career he’d be Giannis without a jumper, which is an amazing player but I like the brute force Shaq we got

@Kermit_T_Frog

Жыл бұрын

His defense dropped off of the map. No way that he could play at that weight today. He'd be killed on switches. And and no way he could have played in the Bill Russell era. They'd have run him off of the court.

@MrShanester117

Жыл бұрын

By bulked up you mean he ate a lot and stopped working out right?

This episode is a backdoor way of talking about wilt and arvydas sabonis

@zanderhenderson4561

3 жыл бұрын

Never stop talking bout sabonis

@JP-jd8wr

3 жыл бұрын

Would've been beautiful to see a prime Sabonis or Wilt vs Shaq

@princesnowblood6263

3 жыл бұрын

@@zanderhenderson4561 Shaq > Sabonis

@localneo-graphic4647

3 жыл бұрын

@@princesnowblood6263 Based on his international play and the fact that he was pretty much a crippled old man by the time he was the 'Shaq Stopper', it's hard to say. Watching some grainy footage of prime Sabonis gave me an idea that the dude really was THAT good though, good enough that beyond the Iron Curtain, the NBA was already aware of him when he was young, and the Knicks GM said he literally would've drafted him over Ewing if he could've. I'd give it to Shaq, because he was just unfair, but Sabonis was unbelievably good, and would, at worst, be a top 10 all-time center if he spent his career in the NBA. At his best, he may have even been able to put his name up with the BIg 5.

@princesnowblood6263

3 жыл бұрын

@@localneo-graphic4647 Shaq averaged 27/12 against Sabonis in the regular season and 28/12 against him in the playoffs, who is this "Shaq Stopper" you're talking about????

The "in the year 2000" callback killed me....amazing reference.

@Thragdain

3 жыл бұрын

A Conan classic!

I grew up watching shaq get way deep in the post and always assumed that was the standard way to post up. Then as I got older I saw how rarely anyone else does it. Easily the most underrated part of his game.

@cole9777

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone accuses him of being too physical, but he was just bringing physicality back to the game.

@manoukone8614

2 жыл бұрын

@@cole9777 he was just talking advantage of his natural ability and he's right i'll do that too if i had a body like him

@Peter-hx3im

Жыл бұрын

It takes a lot of work to establish & hold post position. Because of his physical gifts Shaq may be the best ever at it. Duncan was great at it too. I'm waiting for Giannis to learn how easy scoring can be when he learns to duck in for post position off ball.

I love how honest these assessments are, no narratives just facts

@killiancarre6374

3 жыл бұрын

And that's exactly how someone gets you thinking his way

@Veggamattic

2 жыл бұрын

Weeeell

The most physically gifted athlete in basketball. If he tried harder and kept conditioning, he rly could've been the 🐐.

@carusohighlightreel4275

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a possibility!

@ai_9959

3 жыл бұрын

I approve this message

@donovanm5128

3 жыл бұрын

Nah that’s wilt

@pesky19

3 жыл бұрын

wilt is the most physically gifted

@geckoguy7596

3 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely factual, if he had Kobe’s mind then he’d be the goat, no contest

Shaq was also an underrated passer it's just unfair

4:14 I prefer the term "Shaq-Fu"

What I’ve learned from this video is basically Q: how to deal with Shaq? A: don’t... unless you’ve got Aryvdas Sabonis that helps a little, but only a little

@noob.168

3 жыл бұрын

You're not an opponent. Just another victim.

@kvltizt

3 жыл бұрын

Hakeem beat Shaq in a Finals series.

@myasswithacherryontop1902

2 жыл бұрын

@@kvltizt a lot of people beat Shaq in the playoffs. Malone and Stockton shut them down.

@cole9777

2 жыл бұрын

@@kvltizt Because Hakeem was in his prime and had better lost moves. Prime Laker Shaq vs 94' Hakeem would be a great matchup.

@the757general2

2 жыл бұрын

@@kvltizt Shaq was only i his 3rd season and a lot smaller. Prime Shaq on the Lakers would've roasted Hakeem.

We all talk about Steph Curry's gravity, but we sometimes forget the supermassive black hole that was Shaq, drawing 5 defenders on him and overpowering them all. Some of the most freaking things I've seen.

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Shaq even gets underrated for the 2006 Finals and his impact and gravity.

I was unaware of Shaq's passing ability! This series is great I always learn something new

@back2back379

3 жыл бұрын

One of the most underrated passing big men. He had to learn to be good at it, cause he was drawing more double and triple teams than anyone in the history of basketball.

@jesuschrististhelord9937

3 жыл бұрын

@@back2back379 ever heard of wilt chamberlain 😂 but that being shaq is underrated passer

@back2back379

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesuschrististhelord9937 Yes I've heard of Wilt, what about him? If anything, Wilt is rather overrated as a passer due to the seasons he got high assists, but the truth about those assists is that he was often hunting assists, getting "Rondo assists." I don't give as much credit when a player is playing for stats. Billy Cunningham: "Wilt is a very goal-oriented person, and and under Alex (Hannum) he wanted to win a title and become the first center to lead the league in assists. He liked to pass to Hal Greer or myself, because we just caught it and shot it. Chet Walker usually caught the ball, took a dribble or two and then shot it - no assist for Wilt (under the assist rules of that time). So Wilt preferred to give the ball to us." Matt Guokas: "He said in training camp that he wanted to lead the league in assists. He thought that would be cool. Of course, we all thought that would be cool too. But he didn't want us to run. He wouldn't throw outlet passes off rebounds. Only Billy or Chet were allowed to run out and score on the fastbreak if they got long rebounds. "Wilt wanted to be involved in every half-court play, so he stood there in the middle and all of us would run around him and he tried to pile up his assists. You've got to remember that assists were kept much more strictly back then. There was none of this stuff like today where you can take three dribbles and a head-fake and it counts. You got assists if you caught the pass and made the shot. So that meant Wilt would only pass it to guys who could catch and shoot -- Luke, Billy sometimes, Wali, Hal and me. In my case, he'd try to get me to just go backdoor for a layup, because he didn't trust me to do much else. And he'd never pass it to Chet Walker, because Chet always had to be pump-faking or use a dribble and take away the assist."

@jesuschrististhelord9937

3 жыл бұрын

@@back2back379 lol is that why. From 67 to 68 his assist only went up .8? And why did everyone shoot the same amount of FGA as the year before? A bunch of baloney

@jesuschrististhelord9937

3 жыл бұрын

@@back2back379 rondo assist😂 as a bigman in the post. You do realize wilts passes were most needle threaders.

I appreciate how you use video clips to support your vocal commentary... making it easy for us viewers to clearly comprehend the point you are making at that time. Those are hours of under-appreciated research and editing for our benefit. Highest value basketball commentary on KZread.. hands down. As a coach.. I also found a lot of value in your book. I hope to see more of them in the future.

His speed was always something that was often overlooked. He was just as fast as players 50lbs lighter than him and his could jump just as high as them. When Kobe said Shaq would be the GOAT if Shaq had his work ethic I don't think that is unrealistic at all.

@st4r444

7 ай бұрын

Wonder how Shaq would fair up against 2016-2018 warrior's fast paste ball movement in the perimeter

The amount of times I watched Shaq beat defenders with the spin move out of the post into catching a lob is too damn high!

When you said Shaq thought the skyhook was uncool it just made me laugh really hard. It sounds ridiculous hearing it, but i do remember him saying that wasn't his thing. I had no idea he had a 7'7 wingspan. Given his other gifts it's almost not fair, but clearly from these clips he worked hard as hell for touches and rebounds during his peak.

@samuelmorales2344

11 ай бұрын

No he did not have a 7'7" wingspan. Shaq has short arms. Francis Ngannou is 6'4" and a 6'11" wingspan. Francis has a arm length comparable to Shaq who is 6'11". If you look at the video of them two at the gym, you can see it. At best Shaq has a arm span of 7'1". I think it is 7 foot. Not particularly long for a guy his size.

This video makes me appreciate what Shaq and Lebron are capable of doing at their sizes.

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely true, and I toss AI/Zeke with those two (or three with Wilt), for his own size. Or Stockton, in the other sense.

Shaq unleashed violence from the floor with his trunk and massive lower body. Love it.

Orlando Shaq is my favourite Shaq. Most of the power, but much higher agility.

@willhooke

3 жыл бұрын

I'm really hoping @ThinkingBasketball would do a comparison between the Orlando and LA versions 🔍

@josephjohnroe3678

3 жыл бұрын

@@willhooke there is no comparison. Shaq's 99/00 - 01/02 is as dominant of a stretch and player there has ever been. You simply could not stop him. The league should be grateful him and Kobe couldn't go exist any longer.

@FuShengAlex

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephjohnroe3678 lol the Spurs held Shaq to 21ppg & 44% . He got carried vs them by Kobe that series. He couldn't even make a basket in the 4th quarter. All these other teams he faced had soft over the hill big men

@robertthabassheadjacobson4968

2 жыл бұрын

2000 shaq is my favorite

@myasswithacherryontop1902

2 жыл бұрын

Shaq's best teammate is Charles Barkley.

1:55 Offence without the ball Cuts across lane Team reverses ball, Shaq ducks closer to the ring, Shaw Shaq lob, Drop step Fade hook 11:02 Play making 15:35 Young Kobe 16:28 Defence 20:40 22:33 Metric scores & summary

Hey Ben, I cannot stress how much these videos mean to me. I anxiously await every video and have been waiting for this series since the trailer you put out. I use these to improve my own basketball game; I write down notes from every video and try to memorize them and then apply them within a game. Not only that, but these videos are fun to watch. Your witty humor combined with sharp analysis highlighting the players strengths and weaknesses allow me to enjoy myself while studying your study of these players. You probably won’t see this but if you do, keep up the great content. I love it.

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! And you're a proper basketball watcher 👍

@mlkchannel5890

3 жыл бұрын

Keep up the great work homie🤩

Passing and re-posting helped him a lot!

@user-ll2dr8lg7w

2 жыл бұрын

His footwork and agility helped him a lot too very underrated part of his game

@jingqi9106

2 жыл бұрын

Shaq also moved defenders by pushing them back and even uprooting set defenders. In Wilt's day those were offensive fouls.

I cant even imagine how painful it was for Ben to exclude Reggie Miller from the series

@MauricioBarragan

3 жыл бұрын

Probably easy as Fuck honestly. No pain at all.

@oluwaseyijohnson3162

3 жыл бұрын

He never was even top 8 in mvp voting probably an easy as fuck decision

@RLSmith-jt8qj

3 жыл бұрын

@@oluwaseyijohnson3162 ben made a video about reggie 's playoff scoring. I suggest you look it up.

@blacknetsmed

3 жыл бұрын

@@RLSmith-jt8qj The decision was actually pretty easy to exclude Reggie Miller. Ben Taylor on his podcast states that Miller did NOT have a Top 50 Peak in the Regular Season.

@oluwaseyijohnson3162

3 жыл бұрын

@@RLSmith-jt8qj this is a greatest peaks video. Reggie was good but he definitely aint got one of the greatest peaks lmao

This is genuinely some of the best content on KZread. So well done man

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Best basketball content on the platform forever and ever and it's not even close. 0 dawg and killah bs too.

10:00 “Because of this, he put entire front lines into foul trouble” lmaoooo

These are always the fastest twenty minute videos on KZread. Thank you!

Ben, this video is amazing. I feel like most people wouldn't overcome their biases to see the nuances of Shaq's footwork, the angles he creates, and see beyond his size. I certainly had never, before, thought about a lot of the technique he'd employed. You present this in a way that will make everybody think it's their own idea, but to the extent it was, that idea was never expressed as well as you do in this view.

Best sports content on KZread? Cant believe how well produced these videos are!

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

And It's not even close

I remember watching Shaq re-post and score in playoff game during his finals winning year with the Heat. Honestly, it felt like a privilege to see that old school center play before it pretty much went extinct.

@gabrielantunez7642

3 жыл бұрын

He was ass that series

@Oppenheimer1967

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielantunez7642 They were double him off in the Finals so Wade got easy uncontested layups and dunks because of Shaq

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielantunez7642 Ass? Casual, without Shaq attracting the double teams and still being Shaq in 2006 (and of course Mourning, clutch GP and coach Riley) Wade literally would have been quiet.

4:33 has to be the best time stamp of this series

It's hard for me to watch Shaq highlights on multiple levels. First there's the "He could have been even better if he had added some more moves/learned to shoot free throws/gotten in better shape" angle. Then there's the "his back-down was an offensive foul" angle. I mean really, look at him directly initiate contact with the defender's chest to push him back at 5:03. There are many many examples like this. Sure, other players have done the same thing to some extent, but it's only Shaq who made "knock the other guy off balance then pivot" his standard move.

@themaninblack8271

3 жыл бұрын

It worked both ways though as groups of the other team would routinely wrestling and slap and whack him non stop at the same time

@Thanosdidtherighthing

3 жыл бұрын

They need to get in the weight room then if they want to stop the Big Diesel!

Shaq. Dominate! Winner! Some of the best rim gravity ever! All time great!

@benjaminan1183

3 жыл бұрын

Dominant*

I'm really enjoying this series. And to prove it, I'm just going to politely ignore every time you talked about "3-peats" and "drawing fouls" despite the fact that I'm a Kings fan.

@ryandick9649

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, that series would be an outstanding idea for Ben and this channel. Statistically, what are the chances that the disparity between Sacramento and LA would be that large across a series?

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryandick9649 Indeed!

Just started reading your Thinking Basketball book and I'm hooked! Great content as always man

Also, seeing old, broken down Sabonis in those highlights, what could have been.

@RLSmith-jt8qj

3 жыл бұрын

Old sabonis was still fun to watch

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@RLSmith-jt8qj True, especially together with his Jail Blazers. With the passing especially, he was there with the CWebb and Jokic! Very enjoyable, even in a state worse than later part of his career Wilt and Bill Walton.

Shouldve had a Jackie Moon clip when you were talking about reposting.

@Bonesmalone27

3 жыл бұрын

Huge missed opportunity

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

Now that you've mentioned this, I will never recover from this.

Ben, these videos will immediately become the go-to link whenever someone new to basketball asks me how good someone like Shaq really was. Comprehensive!

Ngl, didn’t expect to see Kobe this early Thought Duncan or KG would be next lol

@papa_maku

3 жыл бұрын

I guess its to honor him for that day 1 year ago.

@yd856

3 жыл бұрын

KG is next probably.

@Spikezx7

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, he's doing this in the order that players were drafted. Kobe was drafted in '96, Duncan was in '97.

@andisar98

3 жыл бұрын

@@papa_maku Holy shit, 1 year already? It still feels like it happened only a few months ago.

@gwapodoes

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't they get drafted and retire after kobe?

That Blazer team was underrated!

@martinmackye9865

2 жыл бұрын

That room temperature b ball IQ tho ....

@coreygolphenee9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinmackye9865 what he meant to say is Sabonis is underrated. That broken old man made Shaq work

Incredible video. But, one thing... People in the NBA before the NBA-ABA merger weren't allow by officials to play like Shaquille O'Neal. O'Neal would had been called for an offensive foul 4/5 times if he played under older rules. Roy Firestone explained the rules differences years ago.

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Correct

@TTFMjock

3 жыл бұрын

I could never watch him for precisely that reason. He probably committed 3 uncalled offensive fouls per game. And I'm only counting obvious WTF-level offensive fouls.

This is such a well-structured analysis of Shaquille O'Neal's peak... Such great content!

Best basketball content on KZread thank you for existing

Man..I remember Shaqs “black tornado” spin and dunk. Utterly unstoppable.

Amazing video, one of my favorites so far. Super exited for Kobe and also KG!

This series is great , thank you for this. ❤️

One of my favorite players of all time. Thanks for this series Ben!

Excellent write up as always. About Wilt, a lot of the stuff Shaq was pulling would have been an offensive foul in Wilts era. I’m confident Wilt could have imposed his will on anyone from his era but the rules and his personality wouldn’t allow it.

@slashbxe2832

3 жыл бұрын

yeah wilt didnt play like shaq because he wanted to play with skill so no one would complain about his freak athleticism and size

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

All correct. Would be insane to have an adjusted Wilt AND with still the finesse, shooting and skills. Especially paired against Shaq.

@allanhouston6759

2 жыл бұрын

*1962/63 season: Prime Wilt Chamberlain missed the Playoffs ( Record: 31-49 ) despite having 3 players from the Hall of Fame.* Wilt Chamberlain is one of the most overrated players of all-time.

@PsychoWarper

2 жыл бұрын

Iirc Wilt admitted he didnt play with as much power as he could have since he didnt want to be seen as just a brute. Public perception messed with Wilt alot and hes admitted it iirc.

@universalplayz7496

2 жыл бұрын

@@allanhouston6759 yeah les jus ignore how no one else on his team even scored 20+ or even shoot 50% fg and les also ignore how wilt was doing everything he can shooting 50+% fg and dropping 44 points a night and grabbing 25 boards also a slight 4 assists a per game could be more as assist were tracked differently but ig wilts just overrated yall

thanks for these videos. makes me appreciate the greats before i watched basketball. you always here storys but putting the stats into perspective is very helpful to understand the impact they had.

@princesnowblood6263

3 жыл бұрын

Shaq is one hundred times better than any big man you've ever seen

Superb analysis, one of the few channels that I will watch the videos all the way through.

excellent analysis and such an understandable explanation... great job, good sir!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

This series is so good, great job Ben!

Would love to see one of these on a prime, 01-04 JKidd. People sleep on how brilliant he was.

Love your content man. Been watching you since the very first Video you posted.

I cannot express enough how much I love this channel. The video itself is amazing to begin with. Your delivery is amazing. You have highlights to show what you're talking about, the charts and visuals are aesthetically pleasing. The content itself is so well thought out, statistically analyzed and delivered it is a joy to watch. It isn't just abstract phrases thrown that you see on so many other KZread videos related to basketball. Thank you, sir for creating such content.

This is the Shaq I want to remember. Not 'NBA on TNT Shaq'. Great video!

K, loved this, except you were way too harsh on Wilt in the beginning. The reason he didn't have the same moves is that they actually called offensive fouls and over-called travels. If Wilt's defender was set and he bumped into him, it was going the other way almost every time. Same with the wide, elongated drop step that Shaq always used. If that 2nd step wasn't down immediately, it was a travel 100% of the time. In my opinion these things make it even more impressive that Wilt did the things he did.

I said it once before and I’ll say it again. This is quite literally my favorite basketball analysis channel on KZread. Very educational while also not dragging in the entertainment aspect. Great work man, keep it up

I just love that as all these analytics & all #’s , all new #’s all still just continue to prove more & more that Mike is Thee GOAT. The more analytics , the more special Mike proves to be He was.

8:00 everybody gangsta till derek fisher starts flying.

@willhooke

3 жыл бұрын

Flying Fish! Heeyaaa!

every time i see him jump into the crowd i get a massive anxiety attack.

great content as usual, love this channel

Just got your book the other day. Loving it so far keep it up Ben!

Wilt couldn't do what Shaq did as far as bully ball because the rules for offensive fouls were a lot more strict. Player weren't allow to just back the opposing defender down.

This is one of the best basketball breakdowns that I've ever seen

Man, youve grown so much since you first started releasing videos on this channel, love the edits and the timely/subtle jokes and references. Keep it up Ben, best bball content on YT for real. Cant wait for Kobe's video, ima cry like a bitch i can feel it lol

Excellent basketball content to get my day really rolling, I love it

I loved that “in the year 2000” bit from Conan 👍🏼

"He would drive through his victims from the hips to overpower them with angles." "Shaq unleashed violence from the floor with his trunk and massive lower-body." Hey, now. Keep it PG here, guy.

this was very interesting and a great insight into the nuances of basketball strategy. enjoyed this

this and clayton crowley’s making the case are the best basketball content i’ve been blessed to have at my disposal from youtube

God he was HUGE! How can he move like that? Imagine if he played defense, Jesus

@shootersgottashoot7684

3 жыл бұрын

He did. For the 3 peat he won with the Lakers lmao really he did for 3 X all defense

@allanhouston6759

3 жыл бұрын

The greatest Center of all-time.

@themaninblack8271

3 жыл бұрын

Tbf he might have coasted at times in the regular season but from 93-03 he was arguably the best 1v1 post defender every great center shot a low percentage against him and he was a great shot blocker. Unsurprisingly Shaq has the most rebounds and blocks etc of the modern era in the play offs and finals only Wilt and Russel from the by gone age have more.

@VictorFPoB

3 жыл бұрын

@@shootersgottashoot7684 Saying he played defense just because he got an all defensive selection is a very casual thing to do. He may have been playing great defense before that and voters just don't notice. It's just the opinion of others. Shaq was always a better defender during his Orlando days.

@Peter-hx3im

3 жыл бұрын

@@allanhouston6759 I have Abdul-Jabbar over him (both offensively and defensively), but with the great centers, there are legitimate arguments for Russell, Wilt, Abdul-Jabbar, Olajuwon, and Shaq.

Kobe actually stated Shaq weighed 380 lbs with the lakers.

@blacknetsmed

3 жыл бұрын

That was during the '02-'03 and '03-'04 Seasons where he was weighed that much. Dr. Jerry Buss would always get on Shaq about that too.

@geordiejones5618

3 жыл бұрын

Shaq himself said he stopped trying as much in terms of training after that 2nd ring lol. 02-05 he just got bigger and slower. In 06 he finally accepted that a young player like Wade should be the primary option.

@exiledknight3961

3 жыл бұрын

@@blacknetsmed actually kobe said this was during their second ring of the 3 peat. which was 01.

@ThinkingBasketball

3 жыл бұрын

Yup -- I first saw this reported in the '02 season.

@Alberto-xz7th

3 жыл бұрын

That's insane. Imagine that mass jumping on your back.

I was thinking about how you could keep this series going into the future for players like Jokic, Giannis, and Luka after their careers are over. This series is a treasure. Keep up the great content👍😃

Fantastic content

THINKING BASKETBALL 02:45 thats because the RULES in the 50s and 60s wouldnt allow players to back others...as soon as they touch their defenders with their back the defenders could just flop and that would be an offensive foul...

@ryandick9649

3 жыл бұрын

Even in the 70s through the mid-80s it was still called occasionally called a foul (particularly in Western Conference games) to step between the defenders feet, turn and sit down in the pin down move everyone takes for granted today. You also couldn't hook on a spin move (offensive foul), nor could you extend the non-shooting arm (offensive foul).

@onlyfacts3178

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryandick9649 yes the HOOK on the spin was a huge problem for them it takes all the advantage of the weight so players that were a lot heavier couldnt just dominate their defenders just with their bodies..so they basically had to have skills and POST moves...

The game was called differently during the 60's and 70's, you COULD NOT dislodge a defender once they established position - it was a point of emphasis with NBA officials which forced Wilt to develop the finger roll, turnaround jumper and fadeaway. Bill Russell even stated that if Chamberlain had the opportunity to play like Shaq offensively, things would've been EVEN WORSE for his opponents!!

@Oppenheimer1967

Жыл бұрын

He just made a video on that lol. Still Shaq>Wilt

Great upload as usual

AWESOME DETAILED ANALYSIS. The most underrated parts of Shaq's game were his court vision and good passing skills.

I need to ask you if, once you finish this fantastic series, you could do us an enormous favour and make another serie of not so great peaks with the second tier of great players that are just below this monsters, like Moses Malone, Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars and so on

@Btn1136

3 жыл бұрын

I think once his channel/podcasts get the following they deserve he will be able to do those deeper cuts. Can’t blame him, but I think his channel is just getting started.

@kumayasei

3 жыл бұрын

@@Btn1136 oh, yes, I don't mean he has to dedicate an enormous ammount of resources to it. But instead of releasing only content about contemporary players like he did before the start of this series, would be nice if he mixed with some historical videos

@bryanryder7196

3 жыл бұрын

Isiah Thomas would be a great player to look at for this series he most likely wont crack this series but man you just look at the box score numbers and dude could put up 22 and 12 in his sleep. Ben would probably argue his true peak and positive impact was during the bad boy days. Thats a great ides maybe we will see an honorable mentions video potentially.

@kumayasei

3 жыл бұрын

@@bryanryder7196 he is not cracking in this series cause they are chronologically and we are in early 2000's now. But yea, although i think that his value comes mainly from his versatility. Hes a positive defender, and hes good setting his teammates in defense. In offense, he is a good shooter and ok rim finisher on good efficiency, and that keeps defense honest and also his vision and passing capabilities help him set his teammates very good

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@@bryanryder7196 A Zeke-Stockton comparison would be insanity. Especially a CP3-Nash/Kidd one.

Weren’t there a lot of offensive fouls that prevented bully ball in the Wilt era?

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this and rules aren't ever brought up despite being the keys.

best one so far ben!

He was insane. So strong and powerful but he was quick and his footwork was great too. That drop step was devastating... so wide yet his explosion and balance from the drop step was nuts. His right jump hook was unstoppable. Fantastic touch too. Not quite Jokic level but he was a very good playmaker. Advanced passes and reads imo. It's crazy how he could have been better too. Undoubtedly a top 10 all time player but I really think he could have been the GOAT. His defense was good but should have been better as well

It's not that Shaq was stronger or more athletic than Wilt(He wasn't), it's that the rules of Wilt's era prevented him from playing like Shaq. Offensive charging is a thing and was called liberally in Wilt's playing days any time the offensive player with the ball tried to push into his defender in the post. Which is why Wilt developed a lethal fadeaway jumper to compensate. Whereas once you get Shaq outside his fairly short range, his effectiveness drops greatly.

@user-cn8nu6lq4w

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Wilt was stronger and more athletic... and that was in the 60s. If he'd benefitted from 90s/00s technology/knowledge he would have been even stronger/faster.

“Turning Duncan into a Piñata”

I started watching basketball since mid 90s and I have never seen a player as dominant as Shaq in the field. Once he got close to the rim. Its game over.

thank you, benny boy. major appreciation for every single vid, especially this one. who knew shaq was more than a big fat bully? oh right, everyone who watched him in his prime. what a phenomenal player. in the pantheon of great centers, i put him 2a/2b with yao ming.

Kareem and Olajuwon were better players in general, but Shaq's dominance was just marvellous to see.

This was such a great watch! can't wait for lebron's and kobe's

Never comment on vids. But yours are super dope and insightful. Nice work son. 🤙🏻

Brilliant breakdown.. Shaq carried so much of the offensive load and was so dominant especially deep in their playoff runs... I'd argue more so than the other centers of the 90's. Given that, plus the punishment he took, a don't knock him for not being as locked in on defense.. For me, he's the one big man I'd want to have on my squad out of all of them.

Bruh I teared up when I saw Kobe was next he's my idol RIP Mamba. Shaq's physique and athleticism made him the most dominant center of all time imagine if he had better post game like Olawjuwon did.

Those early 2000's Lakers teams were a thing of beauty.

These videos you do better than main stream media’s

Awesome analysis😲.