Shandong Carrier off Philippines as RIMPAC Targets China With USS Tarawa Sinking | Taiwan Talks
Days after the world's largest maritime exercises kicked off in the seas around Hawaii, China's Shandong aircraft carrier was spotted off the Philippine island of Luzon. This year’s RIMPAC is the largest iteration to date and organizers say a decommissioned warship will be sunk in a live-fire sinking exercise, or SINKEX. Reports say the exercise will use the former amphibious assault ship USS Tarawa, which has a displacement of 40,000 tons, equivalent to the PLA's Shandong carrier. Beijing's state-run Global Times has meanwhile called RIMPAC a "muscle show" and the U.S. a "paper tiger." Today, we ask what makes this year’s event significant, what message it sends to China and how effective it can be in deterring aggressive behavior by Beijing in the Taiwan Strait and in the South and East China seas.
Our guests:
Tiehlin Yen
- Project manager, Taipei School of Economics and Political Science Foundation (TSEF) Center for Peace and Security (CPAS)
Tony Hu
- Former U.S. Department of Defense senior director for China, Taiwan, Mongolia
Ronan Fu
- Assistant research fellow, Academia Sinica Institute of Political Science
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China is definitely isolated in the indo Pacific. China's only user friend is Russia who has its own isolation in Europe. There will be no other friend to come to their aid incase problem arises in both side of the world.
@OrlyAruta
12 күн бұрын
Not really that worsed china still have Laos,Cambodia,Nkorea,Sri Lanka and Thailand as allies..😂
@kamalkashyap2496
9 күн бұрын
😂 pakistan @@OrlyAruta
@scarymonsterrs
5 күн бұрын
@@OrlyArutaTrue powerhouses...
@NoCanDojack
2 күн бұрын
@@OrlyArutaU.S trembling with fear. Panicking 😂
@OrlyAruta
2 күн бұрын
@@NoCanDojack trembling of what?
The combined JAPAN-PHILIPPINES PACT says it ALL...❤❤❤❤
@laosasean8482
13 күн бұрын
China got JL-3 even your US master are not dare to cross the redline.
@gaocori7413
13 күн бұрын
meaningless
@simonriley118
12 күн бұрын
@@gaocori7413your life is meanjngless for ccp
@gaocori7413
12 күн бұрын
@@simonriley118 why must my life meaning for CCP.I have a good job and a good family,i live in safe and convenient.you troll know nothing but chaos
@nicofranco3432
12 күн бұрын
@@gaocori7413If its meaningless then why does your idol CCP syndicate keeps crying about it?
No one talks about the multi Billion Dollar fishing industry China has turned into when they started their fishing fleets go global. The south china sea alone generates at least a billion for them.. which unfortunately is taking away from immediate claimants like Philippines and Vietnam, who still just fish for their countries while China has turned full global capitalism on fishing.
@Aqualastic
15 күн бұрын
So true, in their selfish effort to dominate the world commerce, China is going all out in exploiting resources anywhere, and much larger than western countries do.
GOOD EVENING MY RESPECTED AND LOVABLE SISTERS AND BROTHERS INDEPENDENT TAIWAN SENDING LOVE FROM PHILIPPINES ❤❤❤🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@loongdechuanren1008
14 күн бұрын
They dare not say "independent" simplily now, you know why?
@PeteHagen-sm4tn
13 күн бұрын
@@loongdechuanren1008 Trump is coming.
Absolutely fantastic commentary with the panel of experts. This is the first time I've seen Taiwan Talks and it won't be my last. Keep up with the incredible journalism and expert panelists! The United States stands with Taiwan, the Philippines and its allies.
From the Philippines with love, we support Taiwan!!!
China is a paper dragon.
@ChunWang-vb7yu
11 күн бұрын
美国已经在南海的电子战中战败
😂😂😂 "shandong" All 3 carriers are not combat capable, just for show 😂
@ex0duzz
16 күн бұрын
Sounds like your brain and not the carriers. 2 are operational, one is still in sea trials and testing etc.
@ellenariban7061
16 күн бұрын
@@ex0duzz 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@markrivera8587
16 күн бұрын
Yes all show can't even launch a helicopter
@rathas881
16 күн бұрын
Sitting ducks carrier, "made in china" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CEmptor
14 күн бұрын
@@ex0duzz "Combat capable" and "operational" are entirely different.
God bless the people of Taiwan❤😊
@gaocori7413
13 күн бұрын
jusr bless you and your country
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
Then why do you want them to go to war with their Mainland brethrens? Your god blesses in such malicious and insidious way. Much like a trickster god. We in Asia only want peace.
Same vibe as a Karen getting a tantrum after not getting an invitation to a party XD
@Rattler808
16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
Excellent presentation
Philippines should stop recognising the one china policy
China should pay attention and reform their behavior.
@heylo6604
16 күн бұрын
If your house is surrounded by your enemy sleeping with your neighbour and pointing the gun to your place. What do you do ? Are you not trying to get a neutral ground in between as a buffer line ? Your enemy is from other area ( is not your neighbour) but your neighbour is not listening to you.
@LoC28C
15 күн бұрын
As long as Taiwan, the Philippines being a proxy of the USA do not provoke then there will be no escalation.
@yaucharles91
15 күн бұрын
Both Taiwan and Philippines are being use a a proxy now!
@CEmptor
14 күн бұрын
@@LoC28C What happen to the "Wolf Warrior" CCP stance? 😃
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
Actually, we look upon China's behaviour as example to stand up and deal with America and the rest of the West. It is only the Western-oriented media that do not dare to cover our defiance toward the West, for they would lose face, and further influence in the region One example is, Indonesia's dispute with the EU, Jokowi standing up againts Von der Leyen. It mirrors China's dispute with EU. We are very proud to what Jokowi is doing. Very proud! We lead the charge! The EU problem should affect Philippines prosperity like the rest of ASEAN too. Does it get the headline? No. They prefer the headline of Philippines got beaten up by China for all the wrong reason. So who do you think needs to reform its behavior and attitude now. If you still think it is China, then you are on your own. China is with us. And we never feel so empowered before. And we like it this way.
Next topic should be the impact of Japan-Philippines RAA defense pact which is about to be on inked on Monday, July 05, 2024.
That carrier is laughable,.
China, please don’t show off your Tofu carrier unless you’re showing your muscles to Ethiopia or Somalia!
@markrivera8587
16 күн бұрын
Tooooooofuuuuuu!!!! Carriers rule!!!!
@ellenariban7061
16 күн бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@heylo6604
16 күн бұрын
Seems like you don't know how painful is the war . Don't make a joke on war. It is not funny. The peaceful situation is now only changed if only one side fail to restrain
Shandong is a Floating Tin Can.
Philippines sent ships to RIMPAC last time but this time we don't and only sent Filipino observers instead this is due to based from our military all of our ships are busy patrolling the territories.
China was crying
Many Filipinos with Chinese blood probably have ties with Taiwanese Chinese rather than main-land Chinese as Taiwan is closer and linked to the Philippines via the very small island chains that are not visible on most world maps.
A couple of these guests have issues communicating with clarity. The US has 11 CSGs and 9 ESG’s. The E is for Expedition and is typically the purview of the US Marines. Each E.S. group is comprised of a number of ships centered by a small Carrier. That carrier will have extensive air capacity, from helicopters to fighter jets meant to support sea to terrestrial action. The Shandong would make for a great RIMPAC exersize target.
@johnnanong8756
17 күн бұрын
So true, and I could actually understand them since not all are that familiar with US Navy structure. Like the 11 CSGs corresponds to their 6 Commands and each command has an average of 2 CSG (usually each will be dispatch alternately). A lot of people didn't realize that US "Helicopter" Carrier, which I believe they've classified it as Amphibious Assault Ship, carries F-35Bs, and Harrier (not sure if they remove this one). In short, US Helicopter Carrier is carrying multi-role fighters which what Japan will be also doing. US Carriers will carry the F-35Cs. A lot of countries helicopter carrier don't carry MRFs and purely just helicopters since they don't have MRF capable of launching from such type of ships. Take for example China, its helicopter carrier is only around 30m short than the US, and its only 10+m shorter than Japan, but it only carries helicopter.
@markrivera8587
16 күн бұрын
Man Shandong a target it may sink itself just by anchoring itself
@andrean2247
14 күн бұрын
Houthi, hamas, hezbollah : bet
once the Philippine govt couldn't take anymore the pressures from its citizens to fight back when assaulted with axes, they will fight back. I don't think that's a win-win situation for all nations. This SEA dispute will become a global problem if not peacefully resolved by the United Nations. Another Ukraine in the making. Could be Phil or Taiwan, or maybe both.
China's CCP will have dream....to defeat the U.S.A....but..... then turns to nightmare. Xi Jinping wakes up and felt relieved that it was only a bad dream😂😂😂😂😂😂
@yaucharles91
15 күн бұрын
I think it is your dream to come up with such story!😅
@breakwhiskey2863
15 күн бұрын
@@yaucharles91 😂😂😂😂😂
@laosasean8482
13 күн бұрын
China is not afraid of US anymore. They have the same fire power as US, so nobody would be stupid enough to start the war
We love Taiwan 🇹🇼 💜 from Philippines 🇵🇭
Taiwan is a country!!!!
@LoC28C
15 күн бұрын
Really ? Which country is Taiwan ?
@vietnamnguyen5284
13 күн бұрын
@@LoC28C Taiwan is the country of freedom and democracy that china of ccp never have.
@LoC28C
13 күн бұрын
@vietnamnguyen5284 LOL freedom when they are being controlled by another country called the USA? Democracy where their media and their education curriculumn and their top politicians are controlled by the CIA ? You definitely have an interesting definition of freedom and democracy.
@lktan224
3 күн бұрын
Not according to her master USA.
Participating Countries Australia Belgium Brazil Brunei Canada Chile Colombia Denmark Ecuador France Germany India Indonesia Israel Italy Japan Malaysia Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Peru Republic of Korea Republic of the Philippines Singapore Sri Lanka Thailand Tonga United Kingdom United States of America
@user-cn7ie1pw5q
17 күн бұрын
Republic of Pluto
@lostlogic6911
17 күн бұрын
@@user-cn7ie1pw5q Including imaginary country isn't going to make the RIMPAC anyless real.
@johnskinny7657
16 күн бұрын
Get out of here @@lostlogic6911
@MrTagahuron
16 күн бұрын
China: 0.
@zenaidadelossantos1922
16 күн бұрын
bakit kaya di nasali vietnam..
Great panel.Yin Tony is always a great guest to the show
From the indonesia with support taiwan ❤️😍💖
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
Does some Taiwanese buy you as a wife or something? Where are you from Riau? Bangka? Pontianak?
Hayssss... China. We Philippines and China have a good and stable relationships if china is focusing on deplomacy and freedom.
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
Wasn't it what you have? Until Obama commanded Aquino to mess it up. We the rest of ASEAN have improved relationships with China. Why Philippines cannot? Think what the cause carefully. Malaysia was supposed to have SCS dispute with China too, by the whimp of the West. But PM Anwar Ibrahim bluntly told them in the face, 'No, we don't have a problem with China!' Does he get backlash? No, he got praised from ASEAN for standing up. It is something that you used learn. Nanci Pelosi thinks that she got the support from American people. But the most people of America actually support Trump. Your master even got themselves wrong. So how could you be right if you are with them in the region? Does Taiwan have meaningful relationships with ASEAN right now? It's been a long time since I hear Taiwan's engagement, or investment, in ASEAN.
Thank you; great information and analysis!
Is Taiwan a friend of the Philippines? will you adhere to UNCLOS when it comes to every countries EEZ? you guys also claim the southchina sea
TARAWA IS A USUAL PHILIPPINE VISITOR...OR A DEFENDER...❤❤
Utilizing MDT allows us the opportunity to enhance our military capabilities in order to counter China. While we may not be able to directly compete with their military strength, we can strategically deplete their forces while awaiting support from our allies. This can only be achieved through the unity of ASEAN nations having a defense treaty, similar to NATO.
@limk8994
15 күн бұрын
Asean couldnt care two hoots for nato and pinoy. Wake up !😆
watching from west Philippines Sea
How cute. The PLA Navy; the terror of fisherman, cargo ships, and pleasure boaters. Did they have to bring a tugboat with them again?
Participated in Tarawa operational evaluation in 1976.
Wasting time and money.. china is busy building belt and road initiative..
@Youseff_re6lk
16 күн бұрын
You mean china is busy burning roads and bridges
Say No to Iran, Russia, China, North Korea.
We love listening to China subs…………. So funny!
The paper dragon reacts. The paper aircraft carrier is all for show.
TT Coffee Cups are Cool. How and where to order ?
It would be great to see more South American navies participate, and to have Taiwanese join-in. They should allow PLAN observers to be present. The PLA needs to understand that neither Taiwan, nor the United States fights alone.
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
Yes, the United States never fight alone. They would always have pawns fighting for them. So without pawns the United States will never fight, alone. What a whimp!
Yes, it's a muscle show, but a real one. Not made of tofu like the China. 😂
"Appear strong when you are weak." Friendless bully shows off.
CCP will never be invited to my parties!
YAn ang dapat na magkaroon ang pilipinas! Aircraft carrier, Kahit na luma, or fixer upper, pag di tayo matuto mag land at mag takeoff sa Short runaway, hanggang lupa lang ang navies natin, Pwede ding mag practice sa airport, Sila kahit C130 naila land sa Aircraft carrier!
@zenaidadelossantos1922
16 күн бұрын
hindi natin yan kailangan kasi pulo pulo na bansa natin.. 🤣 unsinkable pa.. ano ilalagay natin jan.. fa50 na nga lang meron tayo iilang peraso pa. hayst 🤣😆😆😆😂✌️
@panthergaming732
16 күн бұрын
@@zenaidadelossantos1922Oo nga bbopols lang . Di nga makabili ng Multirole Fighter jets na $60M, Aircraft carrier pa na tig $8 Billion ang isa
@panthergaming732
16 күн бұрын
@@zenaidadelossantos1922Baka matulad yan sa Aircraft carrier ng thailand na walang eroplano HAHHAHAHA
good presentation... youtube is out of control, ads every 3 mins, click further report vid,dont reccomend...content makers will complain about too many ads
China's "Agressive Behaviour" 😅
“It hasn’t happened yet”??
Show of force now, afterwards cried because of Japan-PH pact😂😂😂
"Boards don't hit back"
The mainland people should have supported Taiwan and the free world in toppling the last bastion of communism in Beijing.
@limk8994
15 күн бұрын
Hahahaha! 🤡🤡🤡
@user-ji6cc2zv4v
10 күн бұрын
hahaha,
We remember pearl harbor and the battan March and China 😮
You Taiwan people should announced that you recognize the arbitral rulling or else you are also one of the enemy of the Philippines.
@bentot45
16 күн бұрын
🤣 enemy ? Gung gong
@heylo6604
16 күн бұрын
@@bentot45it is not PRC claiming of what Taiwan originally claimed the disputed islands ?
@bentot45
16 күн бұрын
@@heylo6604 ???? I can't understand your English, somewhat nonsense. Please elaborate.
@user-eu6oz4qq2q
15 күн бұрын
挺好的 既然台湾和菲律宾这么要好 菲律宾也想要 那台湾可以把太平岛送给菲律宾 反正中业岛也送了 也好给中国大陆一个保卫国土拿回太平岛的理由
Shandong comes with a tugboat, right?
Shame. If you cant fight... Dont bring everybody with you to be involved.
Another carrier solo show without escort ships
Stop putting gasoline in the fire 🔥.
Lots of funny comments about RIMPAC when it’s only to visit the PH. But it’s okay if the Pirates of the SCS roams around in illegal territories even grab some.
Artinya apa bang Toyib 🤔
Let look at it from all perspectives. American Navy sail around South China Sea & American Navel & Air Asserts sail & flying almost 12 miles along China coast are not aggressive, only China are???...So the analogy is "American actions are done out of love & Romance but China actions are Adultry & Illicit" I am only reflecting the views from a different perspective...thinking out of the box.😅😂😂
You have no choice, US does the same world wide 100x worst. No such thing as a benevolent power.
watch act for false flags of all sides.
The Philippines have 4 MBB Bo 105 helicopters capable of delivery of 1000 kg and 3 persons from Palawan to Second Thomas Shoal. Why are these not used as a Berlin airlift to thwart the Chinese Coast Guard? Shooting a water cannon at an aircraft is the use of deadly force unlike (at least in theory) at a ship.
Disappointed, the Philippines is an Asean member, and why no Asean geopolitics experts were invited to speak at this talking point.
@KasimpleVlogs20
16 күн бұрын
Coz most of the Asean State afraid of retribution if they do that thier Pro China Economy are in high stake not to mention other Asean member states that don't have claimed on that particular waters
😂😂😂😂😂😂 a muscle show huh?
China is a rouge province of Taiwan..
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
16 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 A laowhy subscriber. 🤣🤣🤣
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
16 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Still dreaming ⁉️
Best muscle show of course man calling the pot blacker
像老美一样开着航母到处跑真的很爽好吧😂
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RIMPAC is sending "a message" while China occupies actual maritime territory. After RIMPAC, all participating ships will go back to their respective ports while China continues to physically impose its 9-dash line. So, ultimately RIMPAC is just like a fashion show
@DONNALZARO
17 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@DineshTwanabasu
17 күн бұрын
None of them is a party to claim so they have to show and just leave the area. Hahaha, just a joker show.
@1963son
17 күн бұрын
Much better than the china's toy show
@DineshTwanabasu
16 күн бұрын
@@1963son China remains there and these toys will go back their home. Hahaha
@kenethantiga2534
16 күн бұрын
Well, logically exercise is just actually a show of capability and mentioning that it was just a show is nonsense.
He who laughs last, laughs best. All this chest-beating and anti-China hype will come to grief.
@bentot45
16 күн бұрын
Uninvited 🤣 poohoo Winnie d Pooh 🤣
@narutos138
16 күн бұрын
If that time comes im sure this pact will get even one way or another
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
16 күн бұрын
@@bentot45🤣🤣🤣 Uk rain Wolf Pack Corrupt Marcos 🤣🤣🤣
@elevendashlies6273
16 күн бұрын
Who's laughing 😂and who's crying 😢??? The pinkies commies???
@elevendashlies6273
16 күн бұрын
Who's laughing 😂and who's crying 😢??? The pinkies commies???
From the world we support China mainland and one China policy. Taiwan should cooperate with China.
So the Romans, Greeks, Persians, Ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Assyrians, & Mesopotamians did not do any armed attacks when they formed their empires. This is interesting.
The Chinese in Taiwan cry
中国海军一出现,米国海军就被吓跑了
@tigerhu1149
12 күн бұрын
事實可能會讓你大吃一驚。 當美國海軍離開時,中國海軍出來了。 當美國海軍在南海航行三週時,中國海軍則留在港口。
😂😂😂😂😂😂 a muscle show huh?
You Taiwan people should announced that you recognize the arbitral rulling or else you are also one of the enemy of the Philippines.
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
16 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 That area was claimed a long time ago 🤣 Before the Duma Fino docked their ship in 1999 to claim the island. Sorry when did the Fino became independent ⁉️
@Phoenix-bq7lw
Күн бұрын
That's a good one! As Republic of China, Taiwan ratified the China's nine dash line on UNCLOS treaty. It is legally binding as UN treaty. You in Philippines actually trample the treaty that you signed, and now you actually want Taiwan, the original claimant of the nine dash line, to recognize the illegal PCA ruling that is not even a UN entity? Who in the world recognize the Hague PCA anyway? Does the United States of America recognize the PCA? Since when? You in Philippines is so clueless that you don't know what PCA is and what are stipulated in the UNCLOS. You do not even know the origin of the nine dash line. It was Taiwan!