"Shame on you!" German Police teach men a lesson after fatal truck accident (Canadian Reaction)
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It's called rubbernecking in the UK. Not only is it disgusting to look at/photograph the aftermath of an accident, you're more than likely to rear end someone in front, doing the same thing and causing another collision.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
It’s very disappointing people would try to photograph it.
@patrickh3242
9 күн бұрын
Same here in Germany, we call them "Gaffer"
@Nunya310
7 күн бұрын
Yall have a bunch of cool slang terms across the pond but rubbernecking is American 😂 first used in the Nebraska state journal circa 1895 cheers!
@cptmuska
3 күн бұрын
Driving is so dangerous, sober distractions is all we need. Great comment.
3:45 "...this police officer" HAS HAD ENOUGH OF IT!! He's a good man...😢
I'm North German , 62 years of age and during my life I've seen a couple of dead and severely injured people on the road. In two cases I even had to do first aid, both of these men got thrown out of their cars due to not having worn seatbelts. One of them, he crashed against a tree, passed a few hours later in hospital, he had all of his limbs broken and severe head injuries , the other one got away with minor cuts and bruises and a dislocated shoulder, possibly a broken arm , too. The worst one happened, when I was about 18 years old, head-on collision in a curve due to high speed, multiple youngsters dead and severely injured. Took me some time to forget about the picture on my mind of young girl laying dead on the street in a puddle of blood, they had already put a blanket over her, but her long blond hair still stuck out from underneath that blanket. It all happened prior to the wide appearance of smartphones, but still today it would never come to my mind to film such horrible events. I do not even have a smartphone , as I purposely decided against owning one.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Those are some difficult experiences but you can be proud of doing your best to help those people in a time of desperate need 😢 ❤️
@HrLBolle
29 күн бұрын
that reminded me of a story that Kai, German Truck Driver (also the name of the YT channel), told when he was the first to be involved in a terrible accident on a road in the Harz one night. Video title: The worst accident
If you don't help in an accident where people are injured, you are liable to prosecution in Germany. Failure to render assistance. The police officer does exactly the right thing. Shock therapy, because in recent years many people have repeatedly stopped on the other side of the road, causing a traffic jam or someone driving into the back of them. This has led to even more injuries and deaths. But €128.50 is no longer up to date. It can cost up to €5,000 if you are caught filming or taking photos. 6:29 Especially because it is also part of a basic law. So our Basic Law is our constitution. Paragraph 1 says: Human dignity is inviolable. It is the duty of all state authorities to respect and protect it. (2) The German people are therefore committed to inviolable and inalienable human rights as the basis of every human community, of peace and of justice in the world. This also includes life.
@andreasfischer9158
15 күн бұрын
This ”stopping in the opposite direction to have a thorough look” phenomenon was common already 50 years ago. Without the smartphones, though.
The police officer is Stefan Pfeiffer, police director of the police department for Middle Franconia Bavaria, head of the Feucht traffic police station and head of the Bavarian police union
This accident happend a few kilometers away from us. It was absolutely horrible. Two friends of my friends were there with their firedepartment and told me, it was a terrible sight.
The baseline is,you have the right to your own picture,even if you're dead.I don't want to learn from facebook,my sister just died.it's so disrespectful.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Absolutely right.
@helloweener2007
Ай бұрын
Not exactly. When you are dead you are not a natural person anymore. The legal capacity ends with the dead. But the right goes to the heirs, which does the same. You are not allowed to take pictures without permission.
@mats7492
Ай бұрын
@@helloweener2007but dishonoring the dead is still illegal in Germany
@helloweener2007
Ай бұрын
@@mats7492 That is correct.
@ThcBanaman
Ай бұрын
@@helloweener2007I doubt you're speaking correct legal terms here, besides the bad English. What is a "natural person"??
That is the type of Police Officer I would like to see patrolling the streets and roads of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 He is genuinely a representative of the German Police Force and his country 🇩🇪
Give that officer a raise.
I had to work with the German Civilian Police whilst serving in Germany, they are immensely professional, polite and respectful. I had a couple of incidents, where I had german criminals around a military estate and also dodgy thefts and suspicious behaviour, each time I called the Police they responded and did not muck about, and responded ready to arrest, I worked in civilian clothes driving high ranking officers around, and have been followed, called the police on my mobile, and they turned up armed to the teeth, it was a turkish gang stealing cars and anything not locked down was stolen, tons of respect for them, on RTC and fatals, they always cover the body out of respect or screen it off,. anyone not paying respect near the body would be fined. They have a strong sense of community and family in the police ethos.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the story 🙏
@steiner554
17 күн бұрын
In the Netherlands they also screen off the victim. But before they can there are always lookers as I call them. I despise those people.
@Schnapsbrennor
15 күн бұрын
It's not perfect, of course not, but I'm REALLY happy to see Police in Germany, pretty much every time I see them. However I am German and look very German. I'm sure you can have a VERY different experience depending where exactly you go and how white you look.
@patrickh3242
9 күн бұрын
Was it in Berlin?
Bravo that officer..and also for all of them for speaking 2-3 languages
@anntallexgamer4630
21 күн бұрын
Englisch starts at 3rd grade.
@steiner554
17 күн бұрын
The language thing is not very special in Europe.
I am 58 years old and have been with the volunteer fire department for 40 years. Most recently as leader. I have seen many terrible images of dead and injured people. These images will never be out of your head. Meanwhile, the access routes are blocked by onlookers. We have to equip accident scenes with privacy screens, otherwise there will be accidents in the oncoming lane because passers-by absolutely have to take photos. Imagine you have an accident and pictures of you end up on the internet hours later because viewers are hungry for sensation. Nobody wants that. And every viewer knows what they are doing there. This is a crime!
It's despicable. In the Netherlands if there is an accident there is obviously a traffic jam. The sad thing is there will almost always also be a traffic jam on the other side of the road due to people wanting to have a look. How would you feel if you were wounded there and people started looking? Either help or move along!
@UntilWeregoing
17 күн бұрын
Aggre with you !
When training for my psychology degree I worked in a casualty department, one thing we unfortunately had back then due to no seat belt laws was massive head trauma or individuals who had their faces pitted with bits of glass. So I always feel for emergency workers on the roads and in hospitals who dealt with head injuries like those nearly every night. Some of them even came in for a chat during their shift in order to make some sense of the deaths and injuries.
@ixopo6715
9 күн бұрын
That seems a long time ago seeing RTA patients pre seatbelt laws who had gone through the windscreen. It makes me realise how long I have been working in the NHS. 😊😊
@alunchurcher7060
8 күн бұрын
@@ixopo6715 Seatbelts have saved many lives over the years since compulsory usage became law. Best law for motorists to obey ever passed alongside the child restraints and rear seat passengers belts having to be worn. Yet the number who won't wear a belt is still too high. It's like the body part donors who ride motorbikes with zero helmet.
I actually like that you react to this video as it spreads a bit of awareness for the topic. Great job. About the legal framework, on public ground you're basically allowed to photograph everything which you can reach without the use of technical aides (even ladders fall under this term, by the way), it becomes tricky when you concentrate on the people. As long as they're only bystanders, so to say part of the landscape, you're golden. When they're part of a demonstration, you're fine. As soon as you shift the focus on a person outside the aforementioned circumstances, you need their consent. And it becomes punishable, when you depict the helplessness of a person or flaunt a deseased person. The freedom of press which is guaranteed in the German constitution as well is unaffected by the law, but the press codex in itself keeps the dignity of victims safe. Properly educated photo journalists will never take a photo of someone who got killed in a car accident. They'll show you the wrecked car, you might even see blood on the airbag, but as soon as there is bodily harm, they will not take pictures of victims. I was witness of an accident and some journalists showed up, they didn't even pick up their cameras before the victim was in the ambulance and out of sight.
This man is awesome.... I had a similar experience many years back. Not on the road, but on the beach. A friend died of a heartattacke and litteraly minutes after the medics arrived, The scene was overlooked by 100+ people. It was shocking. But to me, the most shocking, the point i snapped, been an old couple and their friend, sitting down on the top bench and watching his dieing moments through binocculars... I went up there, stood right infront of them and asked calmly "Is it fun to watch a man die? Do you want to get closer or Popcorn?" the woman said "Whats your problem?" I screamed at her "You are the problem, you make me sick and if you are not leaving this minute, you are the next person they can look at"
@charlotterockel-kennedy8913
12 күн бұрын
Sorry for the loss of your friend and shame on the people who showed no respect 😢
In Germany the law was changed a few years back to prevent this onlookers from hampering rescue efforts as well as disgracing the victims. Penalties are quite harsh and yes the police has the right to do so. The truck driver from the Czech republic is being fined for exactly doing this: taking photos from an accident side. There is not much our recently and current government was/is getting right but this law was really needed. The government got this one certainly right, except the fine is still too low for my taste. Peace! from Dresden / Germany
@UntilWeregoing
20 күн бұрын
Exactly it’s a safety issue
I still remember when I was 5 or 6 and there was a big car crash near our house and I asked if we could go and see. I still remember (I'm 56) that mum said "That would be ghoulish, you don't do that" The police officer sounded just like a disappointed parent.
@UntilWeregoing
21 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s not a good thing
Czechoslovakia doesn't exist anymore. It's two countries now: Slovakia and Czech Republic
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comments 🤘
@RavenKStudios
23 күн бұрын
I was the same, like "Wait... isn't it just Czeck Republic or did I miss a huge part of History" XD
@UntilWeregoing
23 күн бұрын
@@RavenKStudios my bad!
@RavenKStudios
23 күн бұрын
@@UntilWeregoing hey man happens :D, no one is perfect and you were at least in the right region just wrong time,
@TurinInquisitor
4 күн бұрын
split 1 shithole into 2 shitholes classic balkanization
A mate of mine got PTSD it's believed from an incident when he was driving back from his base in Germany (he was in the Forces) and was first on scene to an accident on the M6 in England. Apparently there were multiple fatalities, with families involved, and the first person he went to help had no head - it was later found on the opposite carriageway.
@UntilWeregoing
6 күн бұрын
😢 oh no. I can’t imagine what these first responders see. I work in police dispatching so I don’t see it, I only hear. I know officers who have seen horrific things similar to that.
Hello, As a police officer, I've also seen the odd accident and death that simply remain in your memory, even if you don't really want to. The policeman in the video is not a "normal" policeman, as he is wearing a gold ribbon on his cap. He should be a police chief or director. In other words, very high up in the rankings (comparable to a general). In the event of fatal traffic accidents, the heads of the authorities sometimes come to the scene to get an overview, as such events are often associated with a high level of public interest and press coverage.
This attitude of wanting to watch accidents and see whom or what is hurt or damaged is also a very dangerous behaviour of the drivers doing this!! I was in an accident where I rear-ended an Opel Ascona so the booth was smashed so bad that the car looked like it was a coupé!!!!! There was a blowout of a tire of a truck going in the opposite direction and the traffic was queuing up because of it and people was slowing down to avoid dangerous situations here of! Then we passed the accident area where I slowed down to the traffic in front of me made a rather large gap to the last car and started to go faster again and I accelerated lower than 60 km/h (37 mph) to drive away from there and shortly looked at the accident myself as passing it! In these short seconds of averting my eyes from what is in front of me the traffic stopped for some reason, I think there were a car stopping or turning off the road I am not sure!! I was driving a small truck/lorry Mercedes 613 of 6 tonnes and hit the car in front me!!!! That is the lesson to take from this, it is very dangerous not to pay attention to traffic around an accident it is not predictable in other peoples actions!!!! By the way no one was hurt badly maybe a mother of the family had some problems with her neck, but I don't know and didn't hear from it!! It was material damage! Drive safely and take care of others and Yourself!!!!!!!! Kindly the Danish Viking
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
I always am scared when I have to slow down on a highway for an accident or some issue on the road. Right away I am checking my rear view mirror for distracted drivers who are not slowing down. It's scary how many people are on their phones on the highway or otherwise not paying attention. I have also been t-boned by a red light runner so am always on alert.
They are called Rubber Neckers in England !! They cause accidents on the other side when they slow down to gawp !
In Germany it's often happening that if a car crash happens on the one side, there will be a traffic jam on the other side too because of the people wanting to look and take pictures.
@andreasfischer9158
25 күн бұрын
That was the case already 50 years ago. People didn’t have smartphones, though.
Confronting people with this is very much seeing reality - you mentioned some professions. I'm a lawyer (you didn't mention "us") - I don't see it first hand, BUT I see the files ... and what I see every day is sometimes hard to take! Child abuse or crash victims etc.. Ok I make a good amount of money, but these pictures are in your head for life! I only say it because, it's not an easy job - other people offen see only the money we make, but it isn't an easy job - I can tell you!
You may only pick up and use cell phones and other devices when your vehicle is stationary and you have switched off the engine completely. Switching off the engine using an automatic start-stop system, e.g. at traffic lights or in a traffic jam, is not sufficient.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Ours is the same I think. If you are in a parking lot with the car turned off it’s ok. But you aren’t even supposed to have it in reach while driving.
Something tells me this guys aren't sorry for what they did, they are sorry because they got caught.
I remember a few years back when I was doing my drivers license this was a topic. One of our teachers told this story and what the officer did and complained that there werent harsh punishments for that. More than just personal rights or usage of phone while driving
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Yup.
For the reasoning for why taking pictures of a casualty, it derives directly from Article 1 Paragraph 1 of the German Basic Law (our constitution). "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it is the duty of all state authority." In essence taking a picture of a person that did not or could not allow it, is against their dignity. If the person is dead, they can no longer give that consent, so it is automatically violating their dignity and thus it is forbidden.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. Makes sense.
Imagine🇨🇦🤝🇩🇪 we in germany have no speed limits on the autobahn… what happens when hundrets of wannabe pressmembers slow down to make pictures of the scene… not only ugly, its very dangerous too!! Its illegal here and you get fined for that! Greetings from germany, sir🇨🇦🤝🇩🇪
@erikawerner
26 күн бұрын
Actually only 7 % of the Autobahns have no speed limit.
There was an accident on the m50 in Dublin where a poor woman was decapitated. A graphic video from an onlooker was circulated pretty widespread. I wish no luck onto anyone who would be so callous as to capture/forward such material.
My husband is a highway cop in Germany, he has to deal with these kind of accidents on a regular basis. The gaffers are terrible and it's always upsetting for the Officers seeing how heartless people are.
They said they are sorry don't be sorry just don't do it in the first place
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
😮
Well done officer! I would never associate with a person that would consider taking graphic pictures at an accident they are not involved in!
Taking pictures or video in Germany is much more restricted in public places than in the US, Canada or the UK. We have very strict laws around privacy, learned that lesson the hard way during Nazi and GDR times where anybody might be a snitch spying on neighbors for the authorities.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Hmm interesting 🙏
@SidneyKenson
26 күн бұрын
Partly true. As long as you're just part of the landscape, I'm totally fine with having you in a picture I take. As long as you're part of a demonstration or alike, I can take pictures of you as much as I want. In these two mentioned cases I can even commercially use the photos without any person in the pictures consenting. But at the point where you become the main focus of my photography, you are totally right that I need your permission to even take pictures.
@SmilingShadow-jl5tr
6 күн бұрын
Yes, it is restricted, because your government does not want people to control it, it wants to control the people. Everybody knows there is no freedom of press in Germany. In 2015 after the New Year incident, German government was suppressing the news for 3 days. People found out through social media. Now you have even that option taken away. You just love living under a jackboot. You feel safe there.
I am German and you are most welcome here. Peace uuuut!
Greetings from Germany to British Columbia(?)! Vancouver and the surrounding area are great!
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
We love it. West coast Best coast
What has been seen can not made unseen.
I saw a fatal crash that happened just in front of us when I was 12, just before Christmas. I still remember the look on the partially dismembered drivers face and his screaming wife and 2 kids. Over 30 years later that image has never left me. It's not something you want to remember. 🇦🇺
I am glad that this is something that changed in the past decades, so that you will not just stumble upon horrific scenes, because they block the view, or scenes in the news. Back in the 90s, that was different. If you want to compare, there is actually a pretty wide-known example of a horrific carambolage in Germany in 1990, because there exist two documentations about it. One from the 90s, the other one from (I think) 20 years later. For anyone who wants to see it, they are called "Tod im Nebel - sehr schwerer Verkehrsunfall am 19.10.1990 +18" and "Lebensretter: Massenkarambolage Münchberger Senke". There are other interesting documentaries like the one about the A19 (Massenkarambolage: Der Sandsturm auf der A19 | Die Narbe). The later documentaries are a lot more respectful towards the injured and dead, the one from 1990, that is where you will get the gory details (so be warned, really). Driving instructors actually showed the original documentary to their students as a scary reminder of what can happen. I got to see it as well, back then, but it was not obligatory.
These cops and ambulances fir and rescue ect its a thankless job and people need to stop being morally bankrupt
The fine actually was not for taking pictures, but for using the cellphone while driving. Back when this clip was made, it was a €100 fine plus a €25 administration fee plus a €3.50 delivery charge, which sums up to €128.50. I think that it has been increased to €200 by now.
@Mysterios1989
Ай бұрын
But it has also to be noted that it is illegal to make pictures like that. A punishment of a fine or up to two years in prison can be given to a person, who, among other things, makes pictures of people in a vulnerable position (like, someone in deep grief because they have lost someone) or of dead bodies in an offensive way. But yeah, this actual crime can only be set by a court, not at the side of the road by a policeman.
@georgezee5173
5 күн бұрын
@@Mysterios1989 Just a couple of observations: dead bodies are not people anymore, so they can't be "people in a vulnerable position". As for the actual people in vulnerable contision you mentioned (like someone at the scene in deep grief)... What about journalists? Arte they going to prison for taking pictures or video of something like this, even if they don't show the gory parts?? I'm really sorry, but as a European myself I think we've been crossing the line of penalising free speech. In this case I understand it can be disgusting, but in Germany and in my country we also have other laws against free speech that either get you big fines or even send you to prison. And in the future they will keep slowly adding new "exemptions" of free speech that will also be punishable, since we've already left that door open. We shouldn't legislate based on feelings.
It was awesome 😂 Liked it a lot. If i'm right, it happend many years ago. Ever before corona-times. Many people here in Germany laught our ass off about it. Especially those who are in the emergency-theme. Love to this policeman. Greetings from Germany 👋😊
We live on one of the busiest highways, or rather on 2 highways. The A2 and A7 near Hanover. We have the main artery between west and east and the A7, the longest highway in one stretch in Germany (2nd place in Europe) from north to south. The A2 is described by many as the route of death. In comparison, there are a lot of traffic jams and many fatal accidents here. A day without a traffic jam on the highway is rare. When you see how people drive here, which starts with keeping their distance, pushing and simply pulling out between lanes, it's a wonder that not much else happens. The trucks are a big focus as the drivers are under stress and time pressure, but also read the newspaper, shave or make coffee/water. I've been on site as a first responder at many accidents, I've seen a lot of things and you can see a lot when you drive past and look into the driver's cabs. What this police officer is doing there should be done by many more people. As soon as an accident happens, things stop because everyone has to stare. Everything is free, but you drive a maximum of 30 kmh in the free lane because you can't see exactly what's happening. The same applies in the opposite lane, where nothing happened. The driving is so slow there that you definitely have to see something. Then subsequent accidents happen because, as described above, people don't keep their distance, they make unexpected maneuvers in the lanes or they simply take out their cell phones and don't pay attention to the traffic. Here is a link to a video where exactly this happens. Live in a report. For me the penalties are far too low for something like this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3imy7mOlLXOZrQ.html
Even to take a look while driving on the Autobahn is wrong. I understand what you are saying, that its human to have a look when seeing emergency vehicles. But you were trained to drive and to focus only on the street. Now days there are traffic jams on the opposing side because of people slowing down and lose concentration when passing the accident on the other side. The people that take photos and videos are the cherry on top of bad behaviour. If you are driving, never get distracted from anything. You want to see the nature and envoirement while driving? Than take a seat on the passenger seat and let someone else drive.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Oh I completely agree with you!
@nightstorm5914
Ай бұрын
@@UntilWeregoing or take the train next time, much more "relaxed" than getting stuck in traffic (if the train is on time / without delays is another thing)
@johan.ohgren
22 күн бұрын
What's going on off the side off the roads is just as important if not more than what is actually on the road. You know there are cars on the road, but how are you going to see those playing kids on the sidewalk, the deer on the field or the moose among the trees if you only look forward?
@jesuseinstein4706
22 күн бұрын
@@johan.ohgren you know we are talking over driving on the Autobahn? There are no kids, with Speed of 200 km/h ++ you have to pay in a different way attention.
@johan.ohgren
22 күн бұрын
@@jesuseinstein4706 You also mentioned streets, Autobahn isn't a street.
We call it 'Disaster Tourists' and it's actually something you can be fined for pretty heavily here.
Let them work as first responders or in a funeral company!
@carador9286
27 күн бұрын
I really don't want them to be the first responders when I have an accident.
After some of the people who took pictures got very agressive to police and others who tried to help it was made a crime to take pictures or film accidents. You can be punished with up to two years in prison and/or a hefty fine. And it doesn't matter if you wanted to publish your pictures or keep them to yourself.
Last thing a wife, mother, husband or any relative wants to see is a picture of the deceased online before they have been informed. Then they might not want to see the afterrmath. But unfortunately there are those who don't think of these things.
Scientists say, that we are like this since our early Days, when someone has „fallen in the hands of Death“, we develop an urge to see it, get near. Why? When we see that someone didn’t made it, that Death has had its sacrifice, WE feel alive. We are still here. But we had developed civilization for thousands of years, we don’t have to take out a frigging camera to feel better. 😢
Actually, a while back it was made illegal to take pictures or videos of accident sites, as well as interfering/ hindering the first responders from doing their job. If you do so, you will get fined, as the police man did in this video. There are even some ambulances with a QR code hidden in the vehicles print, making it possible to identify those who took photos at an accident site, if it gets posted on social media. Although, I can understand the curiosity when one sees an accident, trying to understand what happened, as you said, but there is a difference between taking a quick peek and wondering and stopping to take pictures/videos.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Yeah. It’s natural to look but to stop and take pictures is awful 😢
@SidneyKenson
26 күн бұрын
The QR Code in the ambulance car prints have another feature. It throws the cellphone camera off to not actually take a picture but to identify and interpret the QR Code and redirect you to a web page that basically tells you "You're a moron, don't take pictures of accident sites, and hey, if you're stupid enough to try and you get caught, it's punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison!"
Im not sure the US has any such laws, but we sure should.
The fact is, these drivers stop their vehicle on the streets for making photographs of the accident victims for uploading them in their facebook accounts. Forgive me for my grammar, English is not my native language
During my short time of driving i came across several accidents. Ofc i always looked, but its just a glance how I look at traffic in general. See whats going on and how I can either help or if help is already there avoid it and then I go on my way. I hate when people slow down traffic so why would I become the very thing i hate?
This police officer is a Polizeidirektor, the equivalent of a British or Canadian RCMP Chief Superintendent or a US police commissioner or police colonel and is the chief of the area traffic police division of the Bavarian police. This was a specifically bad accident that caused immense traffic disruption in the area, so no wonder he was there.
I'm old enough to unfortunately see a few dead people I did not count on. I don't intentionally look. I cleaned up after two deaths; and I am so very grateful the victim was NOT present. You really don't need to see. Perhaps just as bad; the grieving family. You do NOT want to see that. Look up autopsy photos or whatever to satisfy your curiosity. Those people in the accident are humans, this is not television. I would venture to guess most rubberneckers have NOT been personally involved in a bloody tragedy.
We have kind of a saying in germany for several years now for situations you just can't look away even if you want to. We say 'das ist wie ein Autounfall. Du willst nicht hingucken, kannst aber auch nicht wegschauen.' (It's like a car accident. You want to look away, but can't help it.) Mostly when we see something extremely bizarre.
-> this is the relevant law text (today, the video is before, so only a fine for "Handy-am-Steuer", mobile phone usage whilst driving): article 201a, paragraph 1 of the German Criminal Code (StGB, "Strafgesetzbuch") states: 1) One is punished with a prison sentence of up to two years or a fine, whom 1. takes or transmits an image of another person without authorization and thereby violates the very personal sphere of life of the person, their private apartment or room that is particularly protected from viewing, ⚠2. an image that displays the helplessness of another person is produced or transmitted without authorization and thereby violating the very personal sphere of life of the person depicted, ⚠3. presents, produces or transmits an image without authorization of a deceased person in a grossly offensive manner, 4. uses an image taken by an act according to numbers 1 to 3 or makes it accessible to a third person or 5. knowingly makes an authorized image or recording of the type described in numbers 1 to 3 accessible to a third person without authorization and, in the cases of numbers 1 and 2, thereby violating the most personal area of life of the person depicted. According to German law a suspension of a prison sentence on probation is only possible for prison sentences of up to two years and without hindering causes. Also the sentence in 1) is to be seen as a maximum, not the norm ... even with this law one would most likely receive a hefty fine, if not just a very angry and as long as needed monologue about ethics and human dignity from a german ploice officer* after deleting the photos on the spot * whom likley has a Bachelor of Arts of police enforcement/services ^^ source in German: www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__201a.html
Taking pictures or even film a video of an accident here in Germany is against the law and will get sued. That's how it works here in Germany 😊and it's pretty good as it is. Greetings from Ingolstadt/Germany
Trying to shame in American is an utter and complete waste of time that only works. If the person in question has a moral base Americans don’t by the way I am an American.
i just hope i could properly respond seeing an accident and be able to help, doubt i could handle it mentally, couldn't imagine actually *wanting* to look at it.
Hello from Finland, I wish to move to the US or Canada some day.
@nairolfmackebrecht
16 күн бұрын
Why? You want to leave the country with the highest happiness index in the world and move to a shithole like the Divided States of Assholes? You're weird.
Kind of related but I played this game and got invited to a friend group. This group all knew each other irl and were EMT’s? Whatever the name is. However, they’ve been on so many fatal DUI’s that they have zero sympathy for people who drink and drive. A part of me got the impression that they were numb to seeing mangled bodies and chunks of brain matter on utility poles but another part of me wondered how the hell can someone see stuff like that and still get enjoyment out of the world. They all had their own story about unrecognizable faces and I’m stuck there thinking, “He’s joking about it but it probably lives in his mind rent free” You couldn’t pay me enough to do that kind of work. Maaaaybe with therapy and stuff but still a stretch.
I feel like this wouldn't even be a thing in America since the whole culture is based around appearance and social media clout, I dont even think it would enter peoples minds as being possibly disrespectful
There's been cases were family saw pictures of a deceased family member on social media before police had the opportunity to notify them.
@andreasfischer9158
13 күн бұрын
So said officer Pfeiffer at a press conference. He doesn’t recommend colleagues dealing with a situation that way. He doesn’t usually do that either.
This is a big problem in Germany. There are also videos here of accidents occurring by looking on the other side of the road.
The policeman is doing everything right, because it also happens that someone is burning to death in a car, or someone is seriously injured on the ground and these people can't think of anything better than to film it with their smartphone instead of providing help. Shame on these sensationalist smartphone junkies
Why is it always people from north America calling it Czechoslovakia? Are your news really that slow? There's no such country as Czechoslovakia pal. Since the early 90s it's been Czechia/Czech Republic and Slovakia, 2 separate countries. Do you also still call all the Balkan countries Yugoslavia?
Guy, Czechoslovakia hasn't existed for 32 years now. At no point in your politically conscious life was Czechoslovakia a thing.
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Yeah. I f’d up
People hate the police but strange they never forget their phone number when they need help.
Thats a old Tvdokumetary of our Problem in the past ...our Fire,Police and other Helpers have every time the trafficraods full of Stalkers ...now its better ...but its sucks aloot of Time to sensible the Drivers...u hear the "Horn" u have to go left and right for a freemiddleway, allot of CRASHPHOTOS was installed on the "Autobahn" on it Horrorble Crashs ...i swear after u see a Wallpaper with this..uneed no more Pics - and u drive of course differnt asbefore ...
you callin it "first responder industry", just shows whats wrong in the US, first reponders should never be a "industry"!
@UntilWeregoing
9 күн бұрын
I think that’s more of a misnomer on my part. I think I was trying to refer to profession
Was denkst du wie die Zukunft ausgeht.? Tesla mit 360 grad Dashcam... Alles aufnehmen was um einen herum passiert.... Das wird eine furchtbare Zeit.
If you're gonna do Ryans content anyway, please just be yourself. Or at least original enough to not make me think I'm watching his video. You're speaking exactly like he does, and I'm not talking accent. I'm talking distinct speach patterns.
Rarely are there survivors of car accidents on the Autobahn. Unlimited speed. Drove it once, never again.
@UntilWeregoing
6 күн бұрын
😢
PTSD i hate that term. I don't see the problem (well if you're operating a vehicle you're an idiot) here in Britain and in the US it's legal to take pictures of traffic collisions the bodies should be covered anyway, if not well thats life.
Looking at accidents is completely natural. Stopping to take photos is not.
My comment deleted for truth of Canada. I always wanted to move there but now there is no chance
The fact that people find it okay for police to shame people for doing what should be protected has a ultimate freedom is really crazy. Yes its disgusting but outside there is no expectation of privacy and thats it, today you applaud them for taking this part of your freedoms away and tomorrow you will cry. Its funny in a way that its from germany, there is a book that describe this perfectly, its called "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45"
@UntilWeregoing
6 күн бұрын
The causing a traffic hazard and interfering with the investigation is the bigger issue I believe. I don’t know if say, a person gets hit by a car in the city, and pedestrians start taking pictures is also illegal? While still gross it may be different than on the side of the autobahn
@SmilingShadow-jl5tr
6 күн бұрын
Bootlicker who feel safe only with a sole of a jackboot on their face. Most people are not evolved enough to understand why freedom it’s important and why police should not abuse civilians.
@SmilingShadow-jl5tr
6 күн бұрын
@@UntilWeregoingWhat traffic hazard? Everyone is going 5 km/h. When there is an accident on autobahn everything stops for hours.
@sgtsarge2617
6 күн бұрын
@@UntilWeregoing Hazards, one of the favorite words of tyrants. A spoon can be a "hazard" and if you let them they will take it away from you for "security reason" towards the "greater good". Read the book i mentioned, it is worth it.
@AP-RSI
3 күн бұрын
Manche Leute scheinen wirklich einen Schuss weg zu haben! Nein, es ist nicht erlaubt, alles zu filmen und zu fotografieren, was man will! Schon gar nicht bei Unfällen! Aber manche Leute sind anscheinend im Keller aufgewachsen und haben einen IQ < 10!
Would say Thank you for let me get a Better view and go on with my life sry see more bullshit then this ..
Worthless the captions are cut off so nobody can see what's being said and blokey runs his mouth endlessly. I hear ya you have opinions save em to the end. Have respect.
@i_am_m3384
Ай бұрын
The original video is linked. Take a look!
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
I thought the captions were on, sorry about that! I try not to run my mouth, but as someone who works as a emergency first responder I had a few things to say I guess. Take care.
@sethc6663
Ай бұрын
Try hitting the 'CC' icon on the YT play bar 🙄
German police dont have any humor
U talk too much
They haven't lost there old nazi ways i see punishing him for public photography
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
That’s a bit of a stretch. I don’t think they are being punished for public photography. More so likely for using phones while driving and or impeding/disrupting an investigation?
@FattyOn2Wheels
Ай бұрын
@@UntilWeregoing did we watch the same video it was all based on the photography
@UntilWeregoing
Ай бұрын
Yes, but not specifically “photography”. You know there is certain privacy laws about filming people in certain areas right? Such as trying to photograph someone’s privates. This law here, from what I can see, deals with the issue of motorists and onlookers not just violating potentially deceased people’s privacy (if posted to social media the families might see the images before even being notified) but also because they are creating traffic hazards and interfering with the accident scene; causing potentially more accidents. Do you think it’s decent behaviour to try to photograph dead people in a fatal accident? While driving mind you. That’s the issue from what I see. I’m mean their rationale for ticketing these people.
@raineramelung7380
Ай бұрын
In Germany, you need my permission, to picture me,.. If I dead or alive.
@zasou571
Ай бұрын
@FattyOn2Wheels: Wow - really now??? This statement insults not only the unfortunately deceased person, but also his relatives! I haven't read such disrespect for a long time! Is there even a shred of decency or compassion left in you for other people? Wow - that's really unbelievable... But of course: it's the evil, evil Nazi Germans who care about human dignity and respect for the suffering of others! It's the evil Nazi Germans who have the audacity to call people out on their unspeakable behavior! It's the evil Nazi Germans who bully and punish others - just because they take a "funny" photo to show other idiots like themselves something "exciting" at home and to satisfy their deviant sensationalism! I just can't believe what I'm reading... How stupid and ignorant can you be? And how deep can the hatred be for a nation whose population has NOTHING, but absolutely NOTHING, to do with the war and the atrocities of that time? When will we FINALLY stop measuring all Germans by the crimes of their ancestors and lumping them all together? What gives you the right to elevate yourself above innocent people like this, to point the finger at them and to cheekily claim that we would OF COURSE take pleasure in the unspeakable behavior of our ancestors and condone their crimes? WHAT? It's inconceivable to take the suffering and disrespect of others as an opportunity to openly live out your own hatred of Germany! I am ashamed of YOUR attitude and YOUR behavior!
Just FYI Czechoslovakia is not a country since 1992, “Czech” is the Czech Republic. 🇨🇿
This cop has my utmost respect, but he simply should of asked them "do you want to tell the wife and kids there husband and father are not coming home?" Yelling cant park there at a obvious vender bender, no problem. Disrespecting the dead by taking photos of the corpses, vile rodent behaviour, Jesus expects your confessions Sunday.
It is natural to look....its human behaviour....taking photographs is a whole new low.....A body that has died naturally or peacefully.....such as a relative or friend in a mourge....is still haunting.....but believe me a mangled mashed smashed body will never leave your mind.