Drop uour comments below, are you happy about Shōgun returning? Or should it have remained a miniseries??

A flower is a flower because it falls.......let's not ruin this. Let it be

@phobiahd9954

22 күн бұрын

Nah, this is cope. I want season 2 and I'm certainly not the only one. Just dont watch it if you dont like it, brother.

@TXP9

21 күн бұрын

@@phobiahd9954 we all want a season 2, as long as it lives up to the standards set by season 1. If they can’t do that, then it’s better to “let it fall,” and have it remain as a limited series event.

@wachiraworanam932

21 күн бұрын

I love you, Fuji Sa-ma. 😁

@pablogfmovil

21 күн бұрын

"We" don't want a season 2. Some people who can't accept that things end, want them to go on forever, "they" want more seasons

@ladymecha8718

21 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, money talks.

🙅🏾‍♀🙅🏻‍♀🙅🏿‍♀No, No No, James Clavell is not here to make sure it is not done wrong. I feel the series did its job, to make another season would be a mistake, in my opinion. If it is not done right, that is what will be remembered, and fans will have a hissy fit, like in Game of Thrones😎

don't let shogun be like the game of thrones...!!!!

@ryufight7987

21 күн бұрын

Man, people need to stop with these games of crap , shogun isn't like that made up storyline . Shogun is losely based in leyasu, who actually existed

@churclan000

21 күн бұрын

You never heard of the actual Tokugawa clan…theres so much to make a series continuing. The real Ochiba ends up having her son wage a war against who is Toranaga. Soooo much left to uncover it aint like crap of thrones

@ryufight7987

20 күн бұрын

​@@churclan000exactly 💯 I don't get why people keep mentioning games of nonsense .

Actually, they skipped a lot of content from the book. That they didn't explored and adapted in this adaptation. Such as the relationship between Toranaga and his other son. Or Blackthorne and Fuji (Fujiko in the Novel)'s relationship. And his marriage to Kiku-san in the novel. I think it is safe to say they can do a sequel of sorts. Great video ❤

Would be great to see a season 2 . With more action 🎬 scenes and more in-depth scenes And yes, finally, maybe the battle of sekigahara and the siege of Osaka castle 🏰 Maybe also some episodes going back in time , and show a bit of the Hatori hanzo and Leyasu tokugawa connection ❤

Never mind if they go forward or backward in time, as long as Fuji-sama is in it (a lot, preferably)!

@billdew945

19 күн бұрын

Maybe JB can tempt her from being a nun?

Man idk how I feel about season 2 moving ahead of Clavell’s source material. We all saw what happened with Game of Thrones and Rings of Power. It will be cool to see more of Toranagas story, but I feel it will only water down the successes of the adaptation.

A prequel could bring back the beloved characters they killed off. The writers added & omitted material in this remake. To satisfy this fan, I want my favorites to return in a prequel. If successful, go on to season 2 with Toranaga's story of becoming Shogun.

If they do S2 it'll probably be on the shogunate of Togugawa Ieyasu

I would love a season 2 of Shogun!!

I would definitely prefer a continuation of the current storyline with seeing how Toranag becomes the Shogun, Blackthorne might build the fleet for him and how he deals with the regents after the big battle. I can forego the huge battle as those scenes have been done in other films like the Last Samurai and Ran. I would much prefer seeing the interactions btwn Toranaga and Anjin, the rest of the regents and how Toranaga deals with the Catholics and Portuguese. Whether they keep the deal to allow Anijin to live or try to kill him again. And the scene with the brothel going up next to the Church in Edo would be hilarious. Of course, lets not rule out flashbacks with Mariko and Yabushige thrown in for good measure since they were both such beloved characters .

If the second season picks up and deals with Toranaga and the way he achieves the Shogunate, that would be fine. But leave Blackthorn behind. Show Anjin-san in a few scenes sprinkled throughout the season but let it deal mainly with the war.

Haha 😆, I just need 1 more season for hopefully will be the “Battle of Sekigahara.” and I will be satisfied 😊

Needs to continue the saga ofcourse. I would love to keep the fire burning. Season 2 please.!!!!!

Crimson Effing Herring! There is still plenty of material leading up to “Sekigahara”. The red devils. And the final politics to setup the pieces and flip people. Im assuming Saeki will take the place of the Lord on the Hill that will be fired upon. Some other Lords on the armies being arranged. And so on.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

22 күн бұрын

Yea luckily the history is soo rich they have plenty of places to go. As long as it maintains the same level of storytelling, production quality & commitment to authenticity, im all for it!!

@khaii13

22 күн бұрын

@@JeremyIceAndFire33 the letter Ochiba sent to Toranaga cannot be made public; otherwise the heir and his mother is dead. As the show has revealed, Japanese politics is more passive aggresive than the european court; so i would think that in season 2, us as the audience will be left guessing who is allied with who even into the battle. If they can keep the quality up, and maintain their slow burn Pacing, then season 3 would be the Osaka winter and summer campaign that you aluded to.

Happy

In my opinion, a prequel will be better, not only because it will bring back certain characters but also because the era of the civil wars was also interesting in itself.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

18 күн бұрын

Yea, Toranaga's early years are just as compelling as his reign. Seeing him serve under Oda Nubanaga & his feud with Hideyoshi would make a great Prequel.

im actually shocked at the number of people who were disappointed that they didnt get to see the battle of sekigahara. the show wasnt really about battles, was it

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

I agree as well, the acting, writing, dialog & world it was set in was all done so well that i didn't even care about the lack of battles either. This was a great character piece that focused more on good story, character development & political intrigue, & it worked well i thought. I think a big portion of today's audience is always looking for a big spectacle, but any halfway decent writing can throw together a fight/battle scene. But to craft a world like this & make it as intriguing as it was without all the spectacle, is the mark of great storytelling imo.

Season 2: - Shogun: How he become Shogun? At the End it is said he is already Shogun - Blackborn: How he left Japan? He never would made it :) So, His Adventures as Forign Advisor/Minister? - How they beat the Portuguese and Spain to leave Japan? Possible. But do we really want to see some Shogun + Blackborn against Portugal? Perhaps Spain use this as opportunity to take Japan over. Sadly the "Gunboats" is years away and they had John Wayne doing this stuff... Not my Type

Woo hoo!

Writing would have to be good. If so, then I'm all for a S2.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

Yea thats my biggest concern as well. If they can bring the same level of storytelling & authenticity as S1, im all for it.

Great to hear this! Season was so good, exceptional, that it left so many wanting more. If there is no season 2, hopefully they release an extended version of the series. If there is a season 2, they should continue the storyline with Toranaga fulfilling his destiny of becoming Shogun.

Okay, this interesting, of course the producers and directors have to know that they have their work cut out for them. The Original "Shogun" will be a tough act to follow. I certainly hoping and wishing them and all the fans the best. It would be a shame to ruin a good thing.

NHK has a TON of good yearly samurai historical dramas the could share...

Maybe if they make in- between episodes of season 1. Like Season 1 episode a and b. To expand each character

Should be 3 or 4 prequel episodes, and 4 or 5 episodes continuing the story of season one. Absolutely all episodes maintaining the level of writing and atmosphere of season one. Toranaga , Ochiba , Gin, Buntaro, and Omi being the most compelling characters left. Would like to see Mariko and Yabushige return in a prequel.

I hope the second is as good as the first. no yabushige tho. sad

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

I'll miss Yabu the most.

I'm against this. For now. However, a prequel leading up to Shogun could be like two shows in one. If they covered the intrigue building up to Sekigahara, while telling the story of Blackthorne's journey through the Straits of Magellan, it would be a story of immense scope while bringing back the entire cast. I see difficulty in giving Fuji a big enough role to feature her. That would be a bummer. But we could see a Blackthorne very different from the one we saw, who got a little sidelined in this version.

Could easily create 5-6 seasons by copying history books. Season 2: Battle of Sekigahara, sieges of Osaka Castle resulting in the tragic deaths of Lady Ochiba and the heir, end of the Portuguese monopoly as Tokugawa opens up trade with the Dutch thanks to William Adams (Blackthorne), Blackthorne marries, has children and dies without ever seeing England again. Season 3: Tokugawa’s son becomes Shōgun and seeks to expunge all foreign influence. Sakoku Edict. Expulsion of all foreigners and mixed race Japanese (including Blackthorne’s children). Extreme persecution of Christians. Season 4: Jump 200 years to the Boshin War that resulted in the end of the Tokugawa shogunate and beginning of the Meiji restoration. Season 5-6: Prequels to season 1 starting with reign of Oda Nobunaga including Akechi betrayal (Lady Mariko’s family), continuing with Toyotomi’s tenure which sets up the conflict between Toranaga and Ishida.

Not sure it would be the same without major season 1 characters

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

I for one will definitely miss Yabu & Mariko.

What will season 2 be like? ... If it's like politics of Shogun and wars n conflicts of GOT then it will be epic.

I wish they did a whole series on Oda Nobunaga. The problem is the japanese dont really like him as a historical figure. I think hes fascinating personally.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

Yea i agree, Oda's story is just as fascinating. And they could still weave in a young Toranaga if they wanted to by showing the rise & fall of Oda & the conflict between Hideyoshi & Tokugawa that followed. The history is so rich for them to draw from. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnuip8-leLKqkZc.htmlsi=KuZH0bQhQhuhLrSv

@davidlapointe4710

20 күн бұрын

@@JeremyIceAndFire33 we will never ever get it. Just look at how Japanese talk about him (and how he's briefly portrayed in Shogun as the "old Shogun" not even naming him), he's basically seen as a Hitler-esque figure even 400 years later. Nobunaga shat all over traditional Japanese culture including monks, but was a champion of the common people, arming them with 100s of thousands of firearms and humiliating the entire samurai class and culture. As well as being responsible for many foreign influences reversed under the tokugawa shogunate. Just look at how it was portrayed in shogun. Firearms are mysteriously absent except for a couple of scenes despite being Japan being the worlds biggest gunpowder nation at the time (bar cannons) akira kurosawa's "Ran" has a much more accurate depiction of gunpowder's use at the time. And Nobunaga is frequently portrayed as insane because he killed a lot of monks and samurai, but they all killed A LOT of people the only difference is that nobunaga killed the kinds of people who could write about it. He's arguably the inventor of Japan and he's seen as a footnote in history.

You can be sure as sh*t that Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo won't be coming back though.

Yesss show the lead up to the battle, the actual battle, then the rise of toranaga being shogun by the emperor.

Without Mariko, I really don't care, to me, she was the most interesting character.

The big question is will the writing take a huge nose dive, like GoT.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

That's the biggest question, if they can't maintain that same level of quality of storytelling, it could ruin the whole series.

Say it with me, Darth Vader: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I wouldn't mind a season 2, especially since so much of the political intrigue with the church, and the black ship was left out. I know they mentioned Mariko's deal, but it was wrapped up too quickly. A second season would allow that plot to develop and allow more scenes with Rodriguez, who was criminally under shown.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

I was bummed we didn't get more Rodriguez scenes.

@Vanic00

21 күн бұрын

@@JeremyIceAndFire33 me too, especially since at times, it was solely because of Rodriguez, that Blackthorn survived.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

@Vanic00 yea the banter between Blackthorne & Rodriguez as well were some of the best scenes in the series, def underutilized.

Prequel all the way to Oda Nobunaga.

Novel ended. What season 2

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

The novel is based on the real life of Tokugawa Ieyasu, & the book barely scratches the surface of his rise to power & rule.

No! I'm afraid is gonna be like WestWorld (HBO) went bottom doing sequel

ooooh shi...

Not happy unless they're calling it _Shogun_ but making it from the material from _Gai-jin._

Why do we always need stuff to last forever? We dont need a sequel and a prequel to everything, people need to learn to move on. This was a book, the book ended, we loved it. Let's start another book, there are many more books

@therogueprince5553

21 күн бұрын

We certainly didn’t all love the ending, many found it anticlimactic. Not just because of how the battle was handled, but this was prompted as a war show with no war. So I understand why a lot of ppl didn’t like the ending. It did have an incomplete feeling, it felt more like a season 1 finale rather than a series finale

@pablogfmovil

21 күн бұрын

​@@therogueprince5553 Some of you thought you were watching a "war show" but that's because you wanted it to be something it was not. The whole point of the show was to win the battle before even fighting the battle. You wanted "action" and hence you felt it "uncompleted", but that's not what the show was about. Some people need to grow up and accept things are what they are, not what they want them to be

@pablogfmovil

21 күн бұрын

And the fact that some people think that wars are fought through "big battles or didn't happened" is the reason the US was kicked out of Vietnam and Afghanistan and some other similarly complicated war zones.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

To be fair, the promotional material leading up to the series did present itself as a "war drama" so i understand ppls confusion. Im familiar with the book & with the real history of Tokugawa so i knew going in what kind of show it would be, a political intrigue about the trappings of power & a country on the brink of war, but not exactly a war show in & of itself. I personally dont think they needed to show the Battle of Sekigahara either. But unless you read the book beforehand, the promotional material did make it look like it was going to be a war show.

Seriously doubt a sequel season will ever happen. A better idea would be for the producers of Shogun to consider a remake of "Tai-Pan" in a similar 10-episode format. Tai-Pan is Clavell's other mega-blockbuster novel based on the founding of Hong Kong and it has all the fascinating elements that Shogun has. Many years ago Dino di Laurentiis made this really bad, cheesy film based on Tai-Pan and now seems an opportune time for a total remake, as they did with the 1980 Shogun TV mini-series. Keep it fresh.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

Since uploading this video it has already been confirmed. A season 2 with Hiroyuki Sanada reprising his role is coming. Only question now is, will ut be a continuation or a prequel.

I’d rather there not be a season 2. It was perfect just as I was.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

I have mixed feelings myself. I love what they did in season 1, they gave us a more indepth & accurate look at the Sengoku Period of Japan than we've ever seen. Everything about it was great. On one hand the fan in me would like to see more of this phenomenon cast of characters, but on the other i think its near perfect as is. I'll at least give them a chance, season 1's storytelling was good enough to buy them some good will, if they have to keep the same level of production quality though or they risk completely ruining it.

Omg no

Ah, No.

Have we learned nothing from GOT!?! If it had ended at season 7 we’d be happy not PTSD survivors! again had it ended differently but the story of the Shougun and the Anjin was done.

Why? This money grab is a terrible idea. I loved “season 1” but think I’ll pass on the fan fiction.

If there is going to be a 2nd season (💸💸) then Blackthorne just got in the way of the real story and they should move on from it. Go forward not back,

This is BS , every interview where the producers talk about the show they say there will not be a second season over and over again, nothing but click bait, prove me wrong.

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

Well Consider yourself proven wrong then, its legit I don't do clickbait. Deadline & a dozen other sites reported on it as well. A deal for Season 2 was just closed. deadline.com/2024/05/hiroyuki-sanada-deal-shogun-renewed-season-2-fx-emmys-drama-1235911076/

@therogueprince5553

21 күн бұрын

Umm you’re 100% wrong. Definitely not clickbait, a 2 second internet search is all it takes to confirm this is real, and Jeremy doesn’t do clickbait, not this channels style.

@mikeb1too

21 күн бұрын

try looking up some actual reputable news on it , like forbes etc , it is based on a book and the 1st season completely covers the book

@JeremyIceAndFire33

21 күн бұрын

@mikeb1too lol you continue to show you don't know what your talking about, Forbes also reported on it. As did the Hollywood Reporter & Variety! And as I explained in the video, theres still tons of Tokugawa history for them to draw from. The shogun novel only covers a tiny fraction of his rise to power & rule.

@margiem1534

21 күн бұрын

@@mikeb1tooyour really showing your ignorance here and lack of research. Forbes did report on it lol

Worse thing they could have done is kill off the heroine, Mariko. Made the show feel like shit. I didn't bother watching ep10. Just let it sink and disappear, thanks.