Servos for the CNC - S03E07
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The CNC gets some muscles! It might skip leg day though, but that's only because this CNC doesn't have legs.... yet
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Why am I only finding you guys 4 years after this was released!? I’ve been watching servo/stepper videos for over a decade and this is this is finally in my feed. I’m finally using a teknic in one of my projects, so the algorithm must think me worthy at last…
I'll second the customer support. Has been fantastic and very helpful.
Thanks to quarantine that led me to this channel! Amazingly interesting! Keep up the good work!!
One moar vote for the shirts. XL, as long as they're not hipster fit.
Loving this channel. Rock on DMU.
Honestly that first bit was funny, love this video style guys!
In a future build will you think about a plasma table build? Then you can cut a metal unicorn with all the hard work.
@PhysicsAnonymous
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely on our list
@mackdlite5900
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's a good idea. That would be a really useful and straight forward build, the problem with plasma tables is space. They just kinda sit there taking up a lot of room.
@mackdlite5900
4 жыл бұрын
@@PhysicsAnonymous Shave your cat, it's gross.
The puppy description is perfect!
large and i would buy it! love the work your doing i know how hard it is to complete projects and i am not even recording them!
is the metal unicorn song something you guys made, or is it something i can listen to on spotify when i need to feel motivated?
@betowars9922
3 жыл бұрын
roots - no synths
@braylenjefferson608
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know of a tool to log back into an instagram account? I somehow forgot the login password. I would love any help you can give me.
@kashtonnathanael2825
3 жыл бұрын
@Braylen Jefferson Instablaster =)
Counter weight engineering required? The funny thing is, I could sense the giddy feelings of success even with time delay. How exciting! And the outro was classically funny. Grand slam all around. :)
servos for a dovetail machine, perfect combination👍🏿👍🏿
GLORIOUS!! it moves!
Do you have a safety brake on the Z-axis? With a ball-screw supporting the whole spindle, it could easily fall if power fails. Or does the Z-axis just have that much friction?
One XL shirt would be nice) Also just started to dabble into CNC machines a little bit (now modifying and learning to operate 3m x 1.5m plasma table) - that stuff is super fun!
Hey what servo motors did you use for the z-axis?
I noticed you are using an ethernet smooth stepper. I have a similar set up with an ESS, C62 BOB from cnc4pc and clearpath motors. My clearpath motors are wired using the c34cp adapter to a RJ45. For some reason i cannot enable the motors. I keep getting an error on my Break out board. Did you guys have any issues?
What size was the original z axis motor used what did u upgrade it tooo
Hallo, which controllboard did you use?
After a year can you update your assessment of the clearpath servos ? Are your particular servo sizes adequate, what kind of rapids and feed rates are you able to run reliably.... etc, etc :-) and thanks for your videos, I have a PM940 myself and am considering ditching the DMM DYN4 for Clearpath.
So how much did these cost?
What controllers do they work with. UC300ET?
what is the metal unicorn's theme song? is it original? also sign me up for a XL unicorn shirt!
@betowars9922
3 жыл бұрын
roots - no synths
question: why would i use servos when i can use closed loop (hybrid) steppers?
@SuperYellowsubmarin
4 жыл бұрын
I think you have that question the wrong way. Servos are much more powerful for the size, are silent, and have much higher speeds without losing torque.
Instructions unclear. Shop is full of llamas.
Sounds like Teknic deserves checking out. I have quite the stockpile of machine tool building components. So generally, I will try to get away with using whatever I have on hand to build or upgrade machines or systems in my home shop. Sometimes I have to reach out to support from from which ever company's devices I am working with at the time to assure compatibility. Some support teams only have their product specific breadth of knowledge, and are sometimes unfamiliar or unwilling to help with anything outside the scope of their particular product. Up to this point, I have found good motion control support, but not anything I would call stellar. So I will definitely be looking into their motors! As I said before, I have tons of machine building components. Some items I think you could use also. DM me, with a few specifics, and Ill send a care pkg. OH yeah, +1 Death Corn XL Shirt!
Also, how about t-shirts with pockets?
@fefifofob
4 жыл бұрын
Me... Drools...
Please share your experience with that cheap Chinese VFD. XSY-AT1? Mine runs my motor hot in a short amount of time but it could be my motor not the VFD. Unicorn++
Have you tried to use servo for machine spindle
Spinny Spins, puppys, cats.... In short get a cat because they tick the bears and lamas box. Jon will make sure you have the right cat with the right lama legs
LEGENDS!
what kind of deal did you get?
The cat seemed to be waiting for a pop-up clown. But it never came.
@lfmoliveira1
4 жыл бұрын
Cat has seen enough
@chibichabot9293
4 жыл бұрын
Cat looks ready to pounce on it and claim it as a napping spot
Do you have concerns about TTS pull out on your spindle if you plan to use TTS?
@PhysicsAnonymous
4 жыл бұрын
Not to spoil anything, but have been down that road a bit. We will address in a few videos from now for sure. I think we have a pretty good solution.
@CalvinoBear
4 жыл бұрын
Physics Anonymous cool, looking forward to what you come up with 😁
Greetings from Argentina. Good video
I assume you will have to recalibrate the Z axis after adding the weight of the head back?
@PhysicsAnonymous
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, we have been through the tuning process a few times as we keep adding stuff to the head. It's not too picky with a few pounds here and there though. But the tunning is so easy, we end up doing it more often the we probably need to.
@WHJeffB
4 жыл бұрын
Had the same question/observation watching the video, then the comment about the correct Z-axis motor came up and PA's answer below also confirms that they know that drive tuning should be done with the weight (head) applied to that axis. Cool channel Physics Anonymous... Subbed!
I'd really like to use Clearpath servos for my projects - they seem a really nicely integrated system. Unfortunately they want to charge a decent fraction of the motor's price for shipping to Australia :(
@TeknicInc
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Damien, Teknic recently negotiated better shipping rates, but we agree that international shipping prices charged by FedEx (without any mark-up by Teknic) can be pretty high depending on the country. We'll keep looking into lower cost international shipping options and directly pass any savings on to our customers. Erik M - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
@matteyles7466
4 жыл бұрын
@@TeknicInc It would be cool just to have a distributor down here.
@Renaldo015
3 жыл бұрын
Same but I went with a hybrid, integrated stepper motor instead. Much cheaper and includes some advantages of a full servo motor.
Are the ball screw mounts and motor mounts from arizonavideo99? If so how do you like them? I'll be doing this with a Grizzly G0759 for my winter project, and have been trying to find axis conversions and mounts.
@PhysicsAnonymous
4 жыл бұрын
They sure are, we did a bit of a review video for them a few videos back, but the tldr is that the kit is awesome. Really well designed and made. Seems like pretty good quality on all the sourced components as well.
@beachboardfan9544
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, I'll check it out. Do you guys know if he offers a kit with extension blocks to increase column axis travel?
@PhysicsAnonymous
4 жыл бұрын
I think the way these are designed, the motors actually go under the moving part of the axis, so you kind of get over travel by default. I know on our machine, if you want over travel on the Y you have to cut a slot out of the center of the base. We opted for no over travel to start, mostly because it's already a bigger machine then what we are used to.
@ArizonaVideo99
4 жыл бұрын
@@beachboardfan9544 I do hang around sometimes. For the G0704/759 I just to the kit no add on right now.
DMM tech are AC servos. I believe they are made in Canada. Very good customer service and the cost is also not a lot more than servos.
I see you are one of the few that have this "xsy at1" VFD Can You Pleeasee tell me how to controll it over wire?
The unicorn needs a PA tat(oo)!...right on the rump :-D :-D
Just noticed, cant see a cooling fan in your control box. Doesn't it get a bit warm ? Good to see the cat is back and helping out.
I’m no engineer but love the videos - genuine question - will the speed/torque of the servos bring on early wear of the screw threads on the slidey parts?
@TeknicInc
4 жыл бұрын
Hi J Thing, I'm an engineer for Teknic and although we don't manufacture linear stages/screw systems, we frequently work with them when helping our OEM customers design their applications. I figured it'd be helpful to give some input here. Screw systems (both lead screws and ball screws) have specs for maximum rated force and maximum output speed (or critical speed). It’s also important to ensure proper screw mounting (to prevent misalignment), lubrication (to prevent wear from friction), and stage sealing (to prevent particulate exposure and wear). As long as you operate the servo motors within the specs and you properly service the mechanics, you shouldn't have any issues with early or excessive wear. These specs are the same whether you are using servos, steppers, or any other type of motor. For questions regarding a specific linear stage, I'd recommend contacting the respective manufacturer. For any questions you have regarding the ClearPath servos, please feel free to send an email to support@teknic.com. Best, Bridgette G. - Teknic Servo Systems Engineer
@jackleg693
4 жыл бұрын
Teknic Inc Best. Answer. Ever! Thank you so very much!
Love the unicorn shirt idea. Large
“It's koala mixed with rattlesnake, chimpanzee, cactus, shark, golden retriever, and just a smidge of dinosaur. Should add up to normal humanity. “
That is one concerned kitty
SOLD! I'll take a large metal unicorn tee or hoodie!
Success 🤘what's up guys? Great video as always! 🦄
Sees video on recommended, posted 50 seconds ago. Well, looks like i know what i'm doing.
Unicorn t-shirt XL but can you ship to the UK? Pleeeeease?
Clearpath servos are amazing. They are inexpensive (for servos) and so easy to work with, and don't mess with your electrical cabinet. I just don't get why most DIY CNCers prefer DMM. Is that because of the industrial look ? My only regret as far as Clearpaths go is that you only have one feedback line which you MUST use for fault. I would appreciate a couple more for index, homing, ...
I don't usually buy merch, but I think I could compromise for the death metal unicorn. Also, can we call agree there needs to be a death metal unicorn emoji? 🦄just doesn't cut it.
Yes to the t shirt idea. XL
Also, definitely want the death metal unicorn shirt in Medium or Small for sure
Thought of something. Perhaps a carefully selected gas piston would counter-balance the head. Just something to consider.
Metal Unicorn for President 2020! I'd buy one, Size M
Definitely shirts and hoodies, 3xl
Yes for Death Metal Unicorn t-shirts. Need a 3X here. Momma raised a big boy.
I totally want that shirt in XL
You guys must have really got a deal on those motors as they are about 10x as expensive as the steppers I plan to go with. Hardly similar in price.
@ArizonaVideo99
4 жыл бұрын
Steppers with a good driver are about $160 to $200 per axes with China part. If you go with Gecko driver ,which are vary nice, you will be around $225. The X and Y CP are $400. They are a first rate product made in USA with a better encoder than most others use. I am working with a few import steppers and driver now. I was having problems with the tuning on the driver so I asked for the tuning software. They did send it to me, too bad it's in Chinese.
Would love a 2XL-Tall T-shirt (grey would make a good background)
I know what I want to see you make next. You both went to art school. I want to see you make your own metal unicorn.
Thumbs up for the cat @5:55
I heard llama's and now all I can think of is, "Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail"
YOU MUST MAKE DEATH METAL UNICORN SHIRTS!!!!!! Ill take one in 4xl if possible. Love your videos!
Would love an XL shirt, as long as it's long
make sure when going to computer control...install a back.up power supply..or when you shutdown lose parimeters
i cant follow whats goin on anymore , are we still on a grinder build or is it a cnc mill now or are we resurfacing a lathe bed. I got lost somewhere along the way and im just sitting here like oohh cool machines, shiny metal 😋
Love the outro, still too short.
Nice👍
Watched Metal Unicorn 3 times because,,,, Unicorn and Metal and Machining. Great Stuffs. Unicorn needs a PA brand, and make the "T's" you will sell them all.
Really think you should mention stepper with encoder isnt much more expensive then without
I don't even like print t-shirts anymore. But I need that unicorn in Large.
Please make the death metal unicorn tshirts, XL and in black. I would proudly wear that during my flight lessons and flight school courses.
need that shirt! large
Let me get on that shart train. XL
Death Metal Unicorn T-Shirt! XXL!
Great stuff, but is Haas seriously the gold standard you are comparing to? :)
I would order two one medium and one large
Yes! Shirt! Please! Black! M(European)! Metal AF!
2XL unicorn shirt for sure
Adding to the death metal unicorn t-shirt noise! Large plz
2XL on the shirt!!
I would buy a medium shirt!
Ryan is nuts! Please make me a large metal unicorn shirt!
XL shirts!
I would like several death metal unicorn t-shirts
Holy fu*k I made it to the video :O
If you ship to the UK, i'll have large one, please.
Hi, I'd like a unicorn shirt. My body type doesn't fit traditional sizes, so please print it on one of those tents they use when they fumigate houses.
I would like a Tall XXL please
I would have a shirt. XL for me :)
XL. Thanks.
DO THE TSHIRT!!!!!!!
3x unicorn shirt. With a pocket.
Shirt, Please! XL!
"Death Metal Unicorn T-Shirt" .. want one!!!! Size M ... and yeah, make it hipster fit :)
@mackdlite5900
4 жыл бұрын
What is hipster fit? I guess i havent bought t shirts in a long time?
Stepper Motors can have ABSOLUTE and INCREMENTAL ENCODERS too. Why the denegration ... ?? WWWWHHHHHYYYYYYYY ????
Nema 34. Not big 'nuff. Want to chooch more spinny spin. Masso G3 Touch. Cnc Mill retrofit. 7.5HP cat 40 spindle. 20x16 table need to go zoom zoom 600ipm. What to use? LOL!🤣
Have you guys listened to Babymetal??? You gotta check them out.