Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 22 January 2024
The Senzo Meyiwa murder trial will resume on Monday in the high court in Pretoria. It was adjourned last year after advocate Thulani Mngomezulu for accused 1 & 2 was unable to proceed due to ill health. Mngomezulu was busy cross-examining witness and lead investigator - Brigadier Bongani Gininda. The legal teams met with presiding Judge Ratha Mokgoatlheng - and it emerged afterwards that Mngomezulu was not feeling well. Five men are currently on trial for the soccer star's 2014 murder.
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Mr Gina you are representing yourself very well 👍
@NtombikayiseDanisa
16 күн бұрын
Schooling the advocates in the process. Hay ukude lo mfo. Bebesithi bayamfuna ngk they chewed more than they can swallow. Ha uneskolo nembeko= professionalism
The judge is not buying the line of cross examination of Adv T Mngomezulu...the body language says all. 22/1/2024
I find the Bragadier disrespectful of the council, he is defending his arrests and not testifying. He explain when asked by the council and the court allows him
Brig BN Gininda spoke professionally and with respect...that is a sign of a senior officer...22/1/2024
@True_crime_justice
6 ай бұрын
Well rehearsed and well coached!
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
6 ай бұрын
Are you his friend ?
@user-wf3nd4eg4y
6 ай бұрын
And if he speak with respect. Well coached.
@sarahmelodingvirginia2043
6 ай бұрын
@@user-bz7vt6gm6o He is at the wedge of JAIL
@user-yv3jh9qn1h
6 ай бұрын
@@user-bz7vt6gm6o😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think Bragadier is privileged n court than other witnesses before him and get protected by court. Brigadier is not answering questions but pretend to know law better than the council and sometimes undermines them.
Mgomezulu is on fire guys
These guys are criminals
Sies Gininda is a pathological liar
@Eishjo45
6 ай бұрын
Someone needs to familiarize themselves with the meaning of the word 'pathological'. 😮
@lesedimotsewabangwe226
6 ай бұрын
I have no time to respond to foolishness. Just make your own comments and stop playing dictionary, trying to correct my views. We all have freedom of expression & speech. You don't possess or own custodianship of which words I need to use or which ones not to use. I didn't come to this platform you, fool
@user-nv5tu1je1h
6 ай бұрын
I agree with u fully
@mphomangole3768
6 ай бұрын
If Gininda is a pathological liar, then prove it.
We r not interested in Criminal law module 101 Mr Gininda please
This trial doesn't have way forward. We are listen to things doesn't help court to take a decision but instead witness and accused lawyer want to show us that they know the law which doesn't help with this trial. We need supported evidence to point out who is guilty or not.
@nduduzosboniso617
6 ай бұрын
The diffence duties is not to help this court to find the perpetrators however their duties is to prove that their clients are not involved in this case .their arrest was unlawful and they have got nothing to do with this case.
@mmakgosikau2275
6 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu must go for first year class of law. He needs not a refresher but intensive studies for him to be standing into front of any court. The DPP MUST DEA WITH HIM LIKE MALESELA HE JUST CAMEVTO DISRUPT ND DELAY THIS MATTER. DISGUSTJNG😢😢😢
So this Judge is saying Gininda's statement is a hearsay, what informed the magistrate to issue a warrant J50 on a hearsay statement, hence I said the issuing of that warrant was erroneous
@lwandilemfeka3804
6 ай бұрын
It is hearsay on this case. Or it's relevance on the case it's heresay, but the statement as an application to the court for J50 was not hearsay.
@lwandilemfeka3804
6 ай бұрын
Hence the judge said it's not admissable. So it's heresay in this court...
Brig Gininda is so smart and he is not easly intimidated. Mgomezulu is losing it hence he is using emotions
@lucymthembu7021
6 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu is excualy dragging the case ,maybe the Mastermind is the one paying him.because he can even see when he is loosing this case.i hope he will not fall with high blood.now he will s trying to change the dutch law😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.haaa any ke I dutch law yenu
@nomsrambuda7436
6 ай бұрын
@@lucymthembu7021 ziyakhala
@gladysmkhize4085
6 ай бұрын
True
@gladysmkhize4085
6 ай бұрын
@@nomsrambuda7436 zikhala ngempela
@thusoramakobya7054
6 ай бұрын
U ddnt watch the whole proceedings.... Gininda is all over the place
*Big Up Brig. Gininda* 👊😍
Senzo was killed with a revolver not 9mm according to Gininda's statement Why did the story change then?? Something is fishy
@confidencengobeni5014
6 ай бұрын
Thought I’m the only one who pick that up and on his statement if you listen to it attentively you will pick up many contradictions from what his colleagues testified about 😢
@MxolisiMthembu6018
6 ай бұрын
Revolver doesn't release cartridges when a trigger is being pulled. So we wana know where that bullet head/jacket came from? That was found behind the glass jug.
@okuhleish
6 ай бұрын
@mxolisimthembu6018 Mvelase, akutholakalanga i cartridge, kwatholakala loku okuphambili, okuyikona okudla umuntu. Ikona loku okubizwa nge projectile.
It is strange and improper for Counsel to be debating the law with the witness. That is a matter for submissions.
The Nongoma case is not finished how because in the main trial someone said there's an accused person who was sentenced to 15 years in prison
@beewest5704
6 ай бұрын
These guys have too many cases... some pending.
@sabeloshabane6433
6 ай бұрын
@@beewest5704 nothing is pending here all lies
@nette2144
6 ай бұрын
Wishy washy case
The defense should call tt thobane as there witness because this gininda guy requested tt to give ntanzi to him and he will let the other suspects to go.
This case was gonna be easy if Rata was also laughing with the defense counselors as he does with Baloyi n Gininda.😢😒
@Chibvunza
6 ай бұрын
He can't laugh with liars
@mankopanemolise9748
6 ай бұрын
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@justinmothibi5739
6 ай бұрын
Do you expect him to laugh and agree to lies???
@Chibvunza
6 ай бұрын
@@justinmothibi5739if you know that someone is lying you must atleast know what the truth is .The defense advocates are failing to rebuke all the facts brought forward.All the counter evidence are proven to be false but they haven't produced a single thing to prove the state wrong 90/10
mgomezulu plz take it easy that guy hes not fighting man
Gininda is loosing out, the witnesses came before they said Senzo was killed by 9mm, but now Gininda is saying Senzo was killed by revolver 😂
Gininda is a lier full stop🤞ngyayivala lapho
@dannym7593
6 ай бұрын
If Gininda is lying, are the Nkabis telling the truth? You are unbelievable 😂😂
Gininda said "This was a Contracted assassination". Each accused alleged involved was included in the J50 application. The big question "where is the person who contracted the accused?" (He said the name was mentioned by the accused).
3:32:05 Ratha helping Gininda 😂😂😂 block the docket that everyone has been waiting for.
This case is exhausting
@amahletomsana5368
6 ай бұрын
Too much 😢
@xolanibuthelezi193
6 ай бұрын
Tooo much
Gininda is a professional liar yerrrrrrrrrr😮
@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
3 ай бұрын
Njani baba??? Plz specify...21/4/2024
This judge must be removed
This Affidavit does not say he gave his first confession under Raphadu, he further says on the 19th after he was found with ammunition he voluntarilty asked to confess, mind you the ammunition case was dismissed before he wrote this affidavit. Gininda misled the Magistrate.
@nondumisomazibuko2867
6 ай бұрын
Witnesses fled on food but they also had a getaway car 😂😂😂
@africanprince3254
6 ай бұрын
@@nondumisomazibuko2867they ran to the park, and they were not found, don't you think it's were the getaway car comes in?
@Eishjo45
6 ай бұрын
What magistrate 😮
@nondumisomazibuko2867
6 ай бұрын
No, I don't think so because which people saw the car? @@africanprince3254
What Gininda is saying in his statement is a mere motivation go obtain warrant, it's not undisputed evidence. He was taking chances with this statement, error was made a magistrate to issue that warrant because in my opinion there was insufficient evidence but rather suspicion
@user-rn1eg7dw2x
6 ай бұрын
it seems like Gininda has a corrupt relationship with most magistrates at East rand EKurhuleni
@sabeloshabane6433
6 ай бұрын
@@user-rn1eg7dw2x gininda is a corrupt police officer
This gininda wev been hearing his name in all witnesses this must ring a red flag xem theres no way he could b this special yoo
Gininda my brigadier. Keep up the professional and calm , you doing the most.❤❤
This trial within a trial is taking too long
Gininda the mastermind 😂
Where's advocate zandile Mshololo?❤❤❤
Safa UGininda ebragga ngamalaws nesingisi all what we need is facts not long stories
@isaacseleteng8472
6 ай бұрын
Whats wrong with his English? When police speak their language you people mock them of being uneducated now this guy speaks and and quoting laws and you got problem also
@mondlimzulwini7049
6 ай бұрын
Such an exceptional Officer of the Law.
@irenekhumalo-lx3sp
6 ай бұрын
@@isaacseleteng8472 what I mean is that he utters a lot of English words and yet it's hearsay evidence with no meaning it's the last time you hear from me
@user-ce4dm8wy2u
6 ай бұрын
But judge Ratha said all what Gininda is saying is a hearsay😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 congrats Gininda carry on with your lies😅
@darkness_bros_69
6 ай бұрын
Over explaining Jehova🙆♀️🙆♀️
Without being cornered in some way, really why would they voluntarily confess about a random case to random police, randomly so?
@gladysmkhize4085
6 ай бұрын
Ingoba igazi labantu liyakhuluma
@joymofokeng5440
6 ай бұрын
Exactly how can one be arrested for drugs an illegal ammunition and then decide to confess on a case that has nothing to do with what they are arrested for
@sabeloshabane6433
6 ай бұрын
@@joymofokeng5440kudlalwa ngathi la ayikho lonto
@ethalmathula4142
6 ай бұрын
The accussed were prosecuted before the case was found
@nyambenimboneni3483
6 ай бұрын
You haven't had of state witnesses
This Ginyinja person cant he answer the question and shup up because woow
Who is the person who ordered the hit brigadier
*THE SO CALLED gininda IS A CADRE EMPLOYEE!!!*
@Masela_Medias
6 ай бұрын
Amandla
😢
Why two dockets why? When are the Meyiwa family get closure and peace?
Gininda is waste of time
@user-yv3jh9qn1h
6 ай бұрын
Precisely
@amahletomsana5368
6 ай бұрын
Very true he is not assisting this court but wasting time 🙄
He knows how to speak english,but doesnt make him smart.
@calosthabede4280
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Baba Mngomezulu for putting this judge to his place.
@amahletomsana5368
6 ай бұрын
Very true his English doesn't change the fact that he is a liar😅
@nondumisomazibuko2867
6 ай бұрын
Only knows how to speak the language but cannot comprehend questions and answer them accordingly.
@baebooi5885
6 ай бұрын
Keep fooling yourself.
@tshepomasetle9990
6 ай бұрын
Don't be fooled by the accent and evasive elaborations, this guy has just thrown the state's case in respect of these accused persons under the buys
It gets interesting at around 58:00, Ginindas affidavit
@thusoramakobya7054
6 ай бұрын
It's hear say in trial within a trial
Woooo
Gininda is a liar
Ginida thinks he is in an English competition . We r not interested as to who speaks better English we want justice for Senzo
@dannym7593
6 ай бұрын
You want Justice for Senzo from who exactly? When criminals are brought to book you protect the same criminals, so what are you saying?
Brigadier Gininda knows his work.
@user-nv5tu1je1h
6 ай бұрын
But the inconsistencies r too much
@thabanglephoto1740
6 ай бұрын
What work?
@lethiwemazibuko9963
6 ай бұрын
Really?
the only thing now is the aunthecity of these 4 dockets we are dealing with tsotsi here Gininda
Cross examination 101, control your witness, they shouldn’t elaborate. That is for re-examination to explain the holes in their evidence.
Zungu's testimony
This is another miscarriage of justice
Did he say Sibiya told them who gave them instructions to kill Senzo? Then where is that person? Who is that person? Hahaha. Yah ne! This case is like a maze
Thank you Ratha today you were acting like trained judge not ukuba wusikhotheni stay there and listen don’t interfere today I will give you 90 percent of your 100 percent
The accused just waiting to hear their fate ,they've got zero idea of whats happening around them, they are like cows in a horse race.
Can you show us Gininda on camera
This case work on my nurves realy
The judge is defending the witness🥺
@mphomangole3768
6 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu is struggling to put his points across. Stop being emotional you not effective that is the fact.
Mr Ratha Please leave mngomezule to talk do not interrupt
It doesn't matter whether he's intelligent or not, there's something not right about this matter. Something is terribly wrong and officers are hiding it.
@hanspretorius4019
6 ай бұрын
This advocate are back from sick leave.He is still sick.He must go sit at home.I want go al around the world.Dom
@hanspretorius4019
6 ай бұрын
And don't race your voice if things don't go your way .
@user-rn1eg7dw2x
6 ай бұрын
@@hanspretorius4019 yes shouting does not make your point strong
@thapelohonest7019
6 ай бұрын
@@hanspretorius4019dnt make funny with sickness of advocate myb nawe nje uphethwe yinculazi satane
Gininda is not an accused “mangalelwa” as said by the interpreter. But he is a witness
Why did they even start to investigate the Nongoma case?
Ngoba lababantu banabantu ababatshela ukuthi yibo yini bangaboshwa icala liphele
Mngomezulu is still sick guys and I see confusion
@thapelohonest7019
6 ай бұрын
Sizwa ngawe dokotela
Dininga😮
If these confessions are admissable in court it will the end of the of Mngomezulu n others.
@oskie37
6 ай бұрын
This trial within the trial will conclude this trial🤞
We need a truth Gininda at the moment you are still lying, tell us who killed Senzo because you know the truth and remember that someone child died and there was no intruders at Khumalo’s house please please Gininda tell the truth
@sihlecastro5278
6 ай бұрын
What is the truth ? Clearly you know
@nellytidimalomoroeng4555
6 ай бұрын
Mxm this Gininda man is a devil to this accused
the state case end here with the revelation of the Nongoma case docket Wabanjwa u tsotsi Gininda at last thanks Mshololo ntombazane
Di late nje
An arrest warrant is defined as a document that a judge or magistrate issues, which gives the police the authority to take an accused person into custody If someone is already in custody, why request for an warrant.
@thabomogotsi8066
6 ай бұрын
To make the other matter active, in case he's released on bail in court you can take him in custody using the warrant.
@user-mq3zc3vn6x
6 ай бұрын
@@thabomogotsi8066 Ok. If you are already in custody and a case against you is opened, would they still need a warrant to arrest?
@baebooi5885
6 ай бұрын
You are not in the legal field, you wouldn’t understand.Leave it for the Brigadiers and lawyers.
@user-mq3zc3vn6x
6 ай бұрын
@@baebooi5885 this is why these platforms are created to learn and understand.
@patiencefvndlovu5761
6 ай бұрын
Yes
Ingane zabantulezi nizibophele into engekho 1day unkulunkulu uyonijezisa
3:49:34
I don't understand people keep praising Gininda the liar aibo what's wrong with you???
@dannym7593
6 ай бұрын
And it's unbelievable that most people support the cold blooded killers.
Adv Mungomezulu emotions don't work in a court of law. The judge is there to hear both sides and then make his ruling or judgement. Ginida doesn't have to agree with what you saying
Court is doing well 😂
...weh Jesu koshaya uDecember kungaphelile😅
Hayi!!! uyashisa uGininda madoda impendulo zakhe akusiye u yes or no uya elaborater...
@nondumisomazibuko2867
6 ай бұрын
Which is wrong because it means you are answering a question that was not asked
@zwelzmm99zwelibanzi63
6 ай бұрын
Thus the mistake of the judge he can't eliborate without being asked to clarify what ever the judge would like to know, never heard of such anarchy
@thambo310-tr
6 ай бұрын
Kuzomgaxelisa lokho
@lethiwemazibuko9963
6 ай бұрын
uchaza kakhulu to cover, u not ukushisa...
But Gininda is mistaken here when he read his statement...No1 accused (Muzi) in his confession never made mention of Mafika participating in the crime...unless i did not get it clear...21/4/2024
Gininda likes to respond in a form of a paragraph
@joymofokeng5440
6 ай бұрын
He wants to sound smart
@tshehlashoba3532
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sabeloshabane6433
6 ай бұрын
Which we're not interested in that explains
@dannym7593
6 ай бұрын
@@joymofokeng5440He's smart though, not this cheap lawyers who relies on hearsay from Nkabis
I doubt if uGininda uyaxoka...he cant get that information out of the air..22/1/2024
@user-yv3jh9qn1h
6 ай бұрын
And he did it😂😂😂😂himself is a crook and be fooled
@sabeloshabane6433
6 ай бұрын
Hayi kahle bo iqili lomuntu wena ubelaphi siyekhona 😢😢?
Zenzo Meyiwa put his family in turmoil, 😢😢 This case,i dont think the will be closer😢 My dad was killed till date no closer,i hope this of Zezo be closer abd and culprit be exposed Zulu man or those who does isithembu,please lets repent from wanting so many women Today......someone s life was cut off due extra many relationships 😢 If he had stay with one women....it was a different story Women goes for fame,money ect,the moment you press the wrong burton, they will kill you Samson lost it to Delilah on the bible😢
Hehehe tsêna Mngomêzulu o tla o le strong mo pagamê darls ska mo tshaba, niknaks' impartiality is seen by infants😲!! 'i know the law' 'i know the law' my 👣, I thought he will come back a born again child o padile monnamogolo🙆🏿♀️ be civilised like you said!!O bua nnete rra kinanda doesnt understand himself dont sugar coat mfanaka shuta straight 🏹 akere nnete ya tlhaba!!Wena 🦍 its 2024 please stop it with your monkey tricks,re batla copies📝,nongoma this nongoma that can we focus on Senzo's le maswê maherehechana ke nyena 💪🏿 #justice4Senzo
😂😂😂😂 so why then that person is not there in the dock if Sibiya dropped the name.
Do this case had direction or wht😢😢😢
Oh the two Davila are back how talk for witnesses baloi and mokgotleng they distributed the defense
Upaquziswa yin mngomezulu nyakaza 1way
Senzo wabantu ingabe wawuqonyelwa ini u Kelly
@MsMbally
6 ай бұрын
Ungaze ubuze nx
Adv T Mngomezulu has a point here especially the point of arrest of accused No1 on the aspect of offence which he was arrested for...unless m wrong...22/1/2024...but he (Mngomezulu) breaks the ethics when he spoke to the witness in that manner...Adv Baloyi was correct in objecting.
@tommthembu9610
6 ай бұрын
BUT THE WITNESS HAS ALSO BEEN RUDE TOWARDS MGOMEZULU
@lethiwemazibuko9963
6 ай бұрын
Witness has been more rude to Adv. Mngomezulu for long especially before festive season closure. Revisit the past clips.
Hei people of South Africa was wrong with this judge. Why shaking his head when ginida talking
Ginindas English is looooooong and very misleading.
Yhoo Thixo thumela ingelosi kwelityala
mgomezulu plz sit down
So this was a hit ? Who is the payer ?
Judge ratha is is on ginindaz team syakubona judge🧐🧐 even when u laugh syakubona🧐
Bayamthethela lobrigadeer
Ginidi keep it up
Mgomezulu we win some we loose some relax
Ozonipokela nkonke o senzo xem
Viva Mk viva lizobuya izwe
@dannym7593
6 ай бұрын
😂😂Country will return to the Guptas
Why is a mosotho speaker interpreting.
Those confessions will tell us who hired who.I pray Mandisa is not involved.
@Dwanaist
6 ай бұрын
Mandisa is not involve you ar talking sa if you were under Kelly's dliso wena"?
@kurhulakanyani7263
6 ай бұрын
@@Dwanaistbut everyone has an opinion we were all not there😂😂😂