Wise submission from adv Mnisi and the rest of the defense.

Zungu never reported the issue because his nephew Also killed Snakho he was only considered about the gun if it was thrown into the river what a worse corrupt cop witness of state so ashamed

For the third time, if not forth, the evidence is not complete, correct and convincing Bathong! This is not right! Does the state understand that this whole exercise is not about them winning the case or anybody else, but about truthfulness to seek justice for the poor family and their son Senzo. They must now stop this nonsensical act. The poor accused cannot be pinned to something that is so clear by now that its questionable that they really did kill Senzo. Just because they committed crimes in the past does not guarantee that they did it.

@dipuolekalakala3690

10 ай бұрын

Yhoo I really like what u saying

@simphiwegumede5527

10 ай бұрын

Amen

@emistanleyenterprises463

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤

@orbitno100

10 ай бұрын

Incompetence cops and brown envelopes are leading the case

@MbekezezeliKhubone

10 ай бұрын

Kwenzakalani kanti kuleli cala lihlehlile yin futhi?

I love the calmness from the defence. The confidence for me take the cherry on the cake. Keep it up excellent job.salute

@sushelarajkumar367

10 ай бұрын

I'VE ALSO NOTICED THAT A LONG TIME AGO TOO N I SALUTE THEM 4 THAT... IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO BE CALM WITH A JUDGE LIKE THIS 😅😅😅😅😅😅

Judge we love you today plz keep it like that sir

@tumelopule4422

10 ай бұрын

They probably gave him feedback 😂😂😂 his family and friends

@nomalungelomthimunye9579

10 ай бұрын

They probably reprimended him 😅

@siyabulelamzize1514

10 ай бұрын

Whoever who reprimanded him did the Lord's work, he was becoming a player and the referee at the same time in one game

@nomaswazishabalala508

10 ай бұрын

Yes Baba Judge really behaved Siyabonga Baba Judge Mzansi family believes in you that you will help Meyiwa"s and Mzansi family have justice to the killing of Senzo Robert Meyiwa the Captain of Bafana Batana our very own South Africa national soccer team pleeeeeeeease Bab Judge help us sesikhathele ukulande LA lelicala siright ngedata just Gatvol

@lucymthembu7021

10 ай бұрын

And this judge is a real fereree.Todsy I finaly realised that criminal lawyers just takes cases without knowing their clients,now this is a mess,at the end they will loose This case,then what from such inkabis😢yooooo

Babaz is quiet today, because the public is complaining about this game he is playing.... allegedly

@nette2144

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@simphiwegumede5527

10 ай бұрын

Kukhona la ethe khona am being accused of giving evidence in court on Monday 🤣🤣🤣

@zukigala8210

10 ай бұрын

@@simphiwegumede5527 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@gabisiledladla4404

10 ай бұрын

Do you think he reads or listens to the news?

@simphiwegumede5527

10 ай бұрын

@@zukigala8210 bese ethi 50yeara of experience 🙆🙆🙆 shwele,wathula la utumelo ethi akabasabi o accused kodwa ngoba seku submit ubaloyi usenomlomo,I was glad when mshololo eyisho

Can the defense wrap up with cross-examination for this Zungu guy...we want Gininda.

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

A very important move you are raising honestly.They must move

@mongikunene3471

10 ай бұрын

Remember this witness is the only one who can connect the 5 accused to voslorus. So the defence needs to grill him and show the loop wholes. Ginindas statement is based on what he heard from Zungu. He can't connect the 5 to voslo let alone to the murder. Gininda will just come to contradict himself and Zungu

How come gwabini is not amongst the accused if zungu reported these guys though. Gwabini also took part in it. Why did he leave him out

@NontoMpanza

10 ай бұрын

Yes since he was hosting them all

@rita_TM

10 ай бұрын

Allegedly: he needs Gwabini to corroborate his story so he can’t out all of them else it will expose his involvement too. Coz to me it doesn’t make sense that he himself was just an observer, they invited him and he was just there looking and being a fly on the wall. Both he and Gwabini are supposed to be among the 5 if he is telling the truth

@rita_TM

10 ай бұрын

1:39:38 ok judge today you came through fairly and calm

@user-fw5fn6wx5p

10 ай бұрын

This guy is lying dear

@sirbubzin9752

10 ай бұрын

Same as Kelly is not part of witness

The judge watched the news last night. The legal expert on Newzweek Africa chastised him for interference in the case. Suddenly his calmer and even claims to be fair. For the very first time he rolled his eyes at Baloyi. But towards the end we saw glimpses of his former self as he told off Mshololo. The unseen and silent (spiritual) war going on in this case is very huge.

@mosesnxumalo5406

10 ай бұрын

Watch n learn

@nellie2mkhize608

10 ай бұрын

Pretty much so 🤔🤔🤨🤨

@dukemasengana

10 ай бұрын

♥️

@jesusistruth9424

10 ай бұрын

@brianbhengu- No you read the Judge wrong- if you can watch his previous cases and how he sentenced the criminals- he was saying the same things he’s saying in this case- He is a fair Judge- You will see how he’s going judge everything and everyone at the end of this case- and you are right by saying the unseen and silent war is going on in this case- is very huge indeed-

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

I agree 💯

I'm loosing interest in this case. I have lost all hope that the Meyiwas will ever get justice for their loved one

@sindisiwentuli4745

10 ай бұрын

Me too 😢

@zosibiya1398

10 ай бұрын

Same here

@sushelarajkumar367

10 ай бұрын

Be positive people miracles still happen just pray for justice 4 Senzo

@bongythwala9840

10 ай бұрын

Me too yazi aah am tired nje

@BriiTheOne1973

10 ай бұрын

I have decided to stop watching but boredom and fomo somehow brings me back. I need to find a 10 season series programme and stop 😔

You know when someone is so convinced about his lies and he cannot back down but rather die than telling the truth...that's Zungu for you!!😟 Mnisi deal with him for us please🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️

@mosesnxumalo5406

10 ай бұрын

Really, every1 is trying to establish the truth guyz, lets explore all possibilities, verdicts later.

@mbusomngoma1214

10 ай бұрын

@@mosesnxumalo5406 It doesn't need a degree to figure out that this witness is not telling the truth, if you haven't pick that up by now, well I'll say ASIFANI SABANTU!

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

True

Truth will prevail itself

I love when the defense work together.!!!

This case needs prayers, this is tomuch Jehovah,we need you😢 Amen

@nondzukisomazosiwe3711

10 ай бұрын

Because we were all complaining about his in acceptable behavior so he must have heard that people even plan petition against him

@asandakhuthu6088

10 ай бұрын

😢😢😢

@nomaswazishabalala508

10 ай бұрын

Amen This case need prayers please young and old let's continue to pray vengeance of this case is of the Lord

@masesikubheka416

10 ай бұрын

So true

I cant even remember what I was wearing two years ago. This witness remembers clothes worn in 9 years. Only a scripted person will remember.

Dankie Mr Mnisi danko

🙏🙏 I'm praying for the second docket to start

@NhlanhlaMhlongo-vm2zp

10 ай бұрын

They are trying to finish the case before docket 375...actually they don't want to talk or kuxoxa ngale..case 375

We need to know who killed Senzo...mhlampe kufanele siyiqonde ingalo yomthetho ayenzi ngendlela yethu...kodwa kwenziwa ngendlela yokuveza iqiniso kuphela nje...

It is a mess & all litigants & th HC errored by bringing this witness from the 1st place,it will end up in tears

Confusing is in the camp of the enemies, Christ is Lord!!!!! Zungus testimonies don't hold water any longer

The defense put pressure on our interest

I love how most of you keep saying i am done with this case 😢😢tomorrow morning, the judge must be recused 😂😂😂 its an abusive relationship vibe

@rita_TM

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I don’t know how many times I’ve said I’m done and the following day I come back to see if something changed

@christinaseripe95

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@Minecraftboyyy-pc5to

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@zamaximba5806

10 ай бұрын

@sbonilemtshali8228. Sbonile ngathi sidlisiwe bandla. Kunini ngil duba ngphinde ngbuyele

I am speechless what is happening in this court? We are not small kids here. They are wasting the state money. I am still saying the truth will prevail it self

Appreciate this reference to past court sittings

Gininda took the photos from the accused and gave them to Zungu and now Zungu is saying he got them from Gwabini thats my opinion

@brightonchiwawa2645

10 ай бұрын

And if it the case..the defence must also ask for Gwabini's phone and go throught it. They must leave no stone unturned

@gabisiledladla4404

10 ай бұрын

You are so right. And he also wrote the statement for him and made him to cram it.

@iconiclizfizz805

10 ай бұрын

Mnisi is not playing any games with them

Where is a statement bcz Witness told the court that he wrote a statement beside the one that's typed with mistakes😢

@beewest5704

10 ай бұрын

Notes not statement.

@NhlanhlaMhlongo-vm2zp

10 ай бұрын

Lomuntu wakhuluma nge..statement wathi wasenza wasi...signer before kuze kukhulunywe ngama...notes lawo athi amanye akwaNongoma kwisafe...even nalana eGoli akhona amanye...so ngyayazi le engiyishoyo statement washo yena kuthi wasibhala wayebuzwa u...Ramsephide

If accused no.3 can be given a chance to lay his hands on the witness, Our topic in this channel will be Zungu's funeral coming up this Saturday 🤞

@siphosethugigana240

10 ай бұрын

Have you noticed how he opens his big eyes when looking at him, together with accused 5 bombastic side eyes

@CebileNdlovu-kg2vp

10 ай бұрын

Like all other accused when they can get the chance to kill the witness they won't hasitate

@beewest5704

10 ай бұрын

Killers will kill

@mbusomngoma1214

10 ай бұрын

@@CebileNdlovu-kg2vp True

@mbusomngoma1214

10 ай бұрын

@@beewest5704 Indeed

I hope this judge will make a just final verdict. Angimthembi.

❤❤❤

They must move until we done with all witnesses then they start their Adjournments when closing arguments

What if they delete the pictures Mnisi is looking for?

This iyyyeboooo makes me sick😢

@asandakhuthu6088

10 ай бұрын

Thixo emdala kangaka

@nellie2mkhize608

10 ай бұрын

Me too 😢😢😢

@barbarapeters2945

10 ай бұрын

He's trying to imitate Mthoko...so annoying😢

THIS JUDGE IS BIAS AND TOO MUCH CONTROLING. HE IS THREATENED BY DEFENSE, HE IS EMOTIONAL AND ALWAYS BRAGGING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE.

@nondzukisomazosiwe3711

10 ай бұрын

But today he is well behaved

@sharonb8987

10 ай бұрын

People shout the loudest when they have something to hide

This judge!!!!!AIKHONA,he is not make sure!

Asv Mnisi s exposing the rotten system

@gladysmkhize4085

10 ай бұрын

Mnisi is very confused its third day now trying to find something on the witness he came out with nothing

@iconiclizfizz805

10 ай бұрын

Uyibhoza Mnisi! Expose them

@rosiajubeni2920

10 ай бұрын

Indeed, my advocate 😅🤣😅

@user-ne2bc1zb6o

10 ай бұрын

And people they don’t understand

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

Oyena confused nguwe lo mnisi uyawazi umsebenzi wakhe wena into oyifunayo accuse bafele icala

What of all photos were deleted because it happened long time ago....I will follow this case when they say it's finished

Lili cala sengiyolilalela uma sukufakaza bonke abebase ndlini okwamanje kusadlalwa nje😢

@lungamavela4288

10 ай бұрын

Me too

@zamaximba5806

10 ай бұрын

Kahle ukuz khohlisa Octavia,usazol buka nje. Kunin sithi siyal yeka.Sobe sila ksasa sisi 🤣🤣

@DuduzileZwane

10 ай бұрын

😂ngempela yaz

The dots are not connecting 💪💪

I don't even remember what I was wearing last week Monday. Yaze ya sharp imemory kaZungu, nami ngyay cela nkosyam

These are Red lies coming from Zungu ,He doesn't like these accused and .baloyi is trying by all means to bring the witnesses who are lying and being teached by him ,and the money talks 🦜

Into endiyaziyo inyaniso soze uyilibale Zungu kodwa ulwimi luyalibaleka. Fakaza zona buti ,beka ulwimi bucala tjuu cindezela abantwana babantu ngento engekho . Uze une shori nothetha ulwimi ungumntu womthetho .Velana ne family ka Senzo wee buti chii

Why all supporting evidence ingalethwa yonke Why kulokhu kulethwa amanconzu. You mean baloi has no idea on what are supporting evidence and why it should be brought in to court.

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

Ngomnye mgulugudu lo baloi usenza muncu vikela kelly usiphathela isidakwa sase Hostel

Did i see my lawd rolling his eyes 😂

People must remember that the defense lawyers are here to defend not to reveal the truth...

@nthatirefilwe8992

10 ай бұрын

The same way Chicco is defending his son

@NTSHAVHISENI

10 ай бұрын

@nthatirefilwe8992 in which ground is he defending his son?

@snehnenez6284

10 ай бұрын

Okusalayo igebengu zazisendlini akukho muntu owangena iqiniso ilelo nje and lizophuma

What time will the case proceed?

It is true that zungu was at the hostel. parts of his testimony can be disputed but not all.

Hayi namhlanje wathula Judge no interference. Bamkhuzile ingath angaziphatha kanjalo

@nondzukisomazosiwe3711

10 ай бұрын

Sikhale kwavakala

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

Sincedile sizwe sikhale ebezakuyeka nini uthethela ama witness

Judge ibithobekile namhlanje! Bayinqandile na kuba abahlali bayakhalaza

Syabonga bashesha

😢😢 ibuhlungu lento kodw baph ababesendlin kanti

This case shows that how is weak the law of south africa

@beewest5704

10 ай бұрын

And how horrid our policeman & their work is. No wonder too many criminals go free in our courts. They do not know how to collect evidence for criminal courts.

Prayers are needed for this power women who is Menziwas mother Yesu ngenelela

@evidencesithole768

10 ай бұрын

I pray also for those who have been wrongly accused, I can imagine how painful it is to be falsely accuse of murdering a person

Haibonah Advocate Baloyi all the photos should be in the phone

The defence (is very militant) ijoo but it seems Sgt Zungu will survive

Adjourned for tomorrow. To get photos from the accused phones

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

Defense tactically silencing witnesses "Truth or Not"Just concentrate

@legran25

10 ай бұрын

Lol😅 and he won’t find no photos, they will have been deleted 😂. The judge will write a judgement on photos lol😅wooo all because Senzo couldn’t stay home with his wife , he married!

How convenient that he remembers very well that accused #1 was wearing short pants but can't remember other people who were there when he got there

@NontoMpanza

10 ай бұрын

Precisely

@goodenoughlamola1549

10 ай бұрын

Out of all many people who were on that hostel he remember only all accused and there movement including clothing on that day

But I remember Zungu saying he's the one who provided those pictures to the investigation officer

@sibandasikhathele7753

10 ай бұрын

Yes, he said he took them from Gwabini 's phone and forwarded them to his phone🎉

Lojudge always on the defensive side defence the state. May he be quiet once

Where are we, I have been waiting for the trial to resume but nothing is coming up? Am I the only one having this problem of feeling that the state is wasting time and taxpayers money?

@girlymonama6296

10 ай бұрын

Adjourned until tomorrow.

@MphoLucia13

10 ай бұрын

Me too I just noticed it's coming back tomorrow

@gladysmkhize4085

10 ай бұрын

It's not the state its are defense

@user-kd9se5rz6j

10 ай бұрын

Yes state ai shem is useless

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

The way Defense is handling Zungu "s testimony is looking suspicious.There is an upcoming witness they are delaying after Zungu and they "ve been tipped & they are busy exposing themselves to Baloyi and Baloyi has placed the Judge out of his plans

"Grilling witnesses" is A non starter in this Trial(New Docket,New Judge,Sa 44:02 me Prosecution) You just collect for arguments, manje a bo"My Lord I cant Proceed "Adjournment🤷‍♀️

Phezu kwakhe Mnisi

Whats going on now?

My lord & Baloyi, you must excuse some of us today, kune Memorial ka Shenge eNatali sosayoyithamela. Sizobuya ebusuku sizozwa nisebenze kanjani today no Zungu

@qaphelanicele2657

10 ай бұрын

Noted advocate Gwabeni

Zungu what a u saying mara🤦🤦

what is happening

Maybe there pictures were not take on 26 October 2014 were taken before or after now they link the date

@petunialuthuli8267

10 ай бұрын

That's my thoughts exactly

Today judge Ratata says this is a fair court . What do yiu think guys or today he tried to be fair in both parties

@gabisiledladla4404

10 ай бұрын

It's too late for judge ratha. Maybe today he took his "bipolar" disorder pills and tomorrow he will go back to his crazy personality and start running his mouth

@iconiclizfizz805

10 ай бұрын

Ubonile abantu bakhala ngogeza oku kwakhe

@dukemasengana

10 ай бұрын

@@iconiclizfizz805 True, he heard people complain, he's decided to tone down. 🤣

@philiswasabela8312

10 ай бұрын

He must have seen in the news that even Legal experts are complaining about him being partial

@mohalend3120

10 ай бұрын

Public outcry is the reason and everyone following the case can attest. He was to exercise fairness from the word go. The state must stand for the truth isn't it but in this case it is vice versa

This Judge will eat his own words, how can you agree with the defense and then you make a ruling / judgmant opposed to the defense.

Phez kwabo mnisi

Soo many mistakes,from zungu😮,wayenxilile

Last night I watched the Oscar Pristorious case, and I thought how I wish this case was also handled by such brilliant legal counsels including the Presiding judge

@masochas1314

10 ай бұрын

You think judge Masipa would do a better job?

@maggiedube9738

10 ай бұрын

I also went back to watch that case. It's worlds apart compared to this one

@sandilezulu3973

10 ай бұрын

There was no interference in that case

Zungu is confusing himself now

Yesterday they did not want to check the record

@rosiajubeni2920

10 ай бұрын

There's no fairness in this court judge always sight with state 🙄

Judge Ratha we ask you to behave like a judge please.this thing of yours interfering when defence lawyers demanding answers is disgusting

I LOVE MNISI

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤

He need to see those photos, we are tooinvested now.

The defence is playing delay tactics and I wonder what are they planning lately since they where surprised by this crucial witness …let’s wait and see if those other pictures will assist them

@leonardchauke2601

10 ай бұрын

Sometimes you need not to comply with everything in order to push the other party to produce what you're looking for. If Mr Mnisi agreed to continue, the state wouldn't have seen the need or urgency of that downloaded disc and phone as it doesn't favour them.

@kingmelano9882

10 ай бұрын

This witness is briefed,trained and coached.

@mosesnxumalo5406

10 ай бұрын

Or he is telling it as it is, if u cant believe him, give the benefit of doubt n chill for the outcome

@baebooi5885

10 ай бұрын

Zungu is showing them flames.

@Nicole-sh5tw

10 ай бұрын

Defense knows very well who is going down.They are just still sharpening the wrong side of the knife I dont understand why. Avoiding Zungu on Friday was the biggest mistake and it forces them to avoid his testimony, the more he speaks the more they make mistakes, Truth Or Lies.

45:09 but he didn’t give them this current statement when he got it mos . So Baloyi can’t come with new documents and new pictures

finally accused no 4 is mentioned the bishop

@legran25

10 ай бұрын

😂 what was he wearing 😂? That one is like a shadow! He lurks and is inconspicuous.

Zungu is a liar he says he doesn't know who was taking pictures then he said he had pictures from GWABENI and Gwabini was nit with them.

This case,wil take long until next year

@legran25

10 ай бұрын

2024 election time! Distraction from ANC and DA stealing votes! Rigged votes and we will be distracted by Senzo and we lose the land and economy!

This case is over!…Killer found ✅..Weapon found ✅..Now the big last question is,who sent them?..

@gilbertramaube4503

10 ай бұрын

I agree with you Mtho is telling the truth. We need to know who send them there

@juniormaila6712

10 ай бұрын

I disagree that this zungu guy is laying go and read Police Act. This is Police Officer he's knows wht to do. He can be charged with Dereliction of duty

Please tell us the truth

Where is the previous interpreter mare?

HHayi, with looks of things, judge wants to sentence this guy's 😂😂😂 he's doesn't have time. Uphathisiwe kuthi gweba mkhulu

Even if I stole a pocket of snacks I wouldn't hire this mnisi guy to represent me.

@beewest5704

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Ubhajiwe uZungu. Akusekho hlathi lokucasha.

@bongiwegumede4311

10 ай бұрын

What happened today, zithini ngo Zungu??

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 kunjalo aphelile amahlathi

Mnisi ukhathele khuluma vele namhlanje you were not in the mood I foresee the adjournment until Monday

You cannot hoodwink all of the people all of the time. Justice for senzo meyiwa. It's time

so, they think he took pics before he took the bath?

The lady is typing now

@rosiajubeni2920

10 ай бұрын

😅🤣😅

@khomotsophokanoka8533

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 iyoooo am dead about the typist she is still typing the photo's you mean Lies have got short legs

@petunialuthuli8267

10 ай бұрын

I watched that typing case numerous times 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ziyabuya manje, accused 1,was wearing shot, and aboKhelly abashongo nge shot

@asaveladudumashe803

10 ай бұрын

No usho e hostel

@khayankabinde8295

10 ай бұрын

Usebiziwen uKelly?

@emmahletshedi-jc1oe

10 ай бұрын

​@@khayankabinde8295😂😂

@mosesnxumalo5406

10 ай бұрын

B4 ayogeza even

Mtathe Advocate Wise Mnisi Zungu umbeke where he belong under your feet injalo Zungu

Adjournment?

@luulumogotsi7500

10 ай бұрын

Yes for the day....will resume tomorrow morning.

Mnisi ✊🏽 Mnisi ✊🏽 Mnisi ✊🏽

😂😂😂😂😂😂Amahlathi Aphelile akusekho akusekho ukucasha wolololhwoloh 😂😂😂😂abathathe Advocate Wise Mnisi the chosen Defence Team fir justice for Meyiwa's and Mzansi family justice Siyabonga young and old Mzansi family let's pray without ceasing

@phumzagalada6263

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 uzujonge azizifumaneka ezo foto 2morrow stru 😂

What is happening here exactly

THEY SOUND TIRED AND HUNGRY. NO ENERGY AT ALL

@nondzukisomazosiwe3711

10 ай бұрын

They are drained dealing with Rata is not easy😂

Accused no 3 was at the hostel in and around vosloorus.

Is advocate Mshololo off or what because I want to see her