You are spoiling us with so many trial videos. It is very rare to see a growing channel that shares NEW research like yours, rather than just rehashing the same topics that have been known about since before our grandparents time.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you appreciate them!

@sportguy-live26

Жыл бұрын

He's great ..

i love the testing and trialing that goes into making such great videos. love all your videos

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is my favorite plant related channel :) please keep em coming!

@spanish_psychonaut

Жыл бұрын

I love the "no intro" style. Right to the point, not wasting anybody's time but extremely informative. Just perfect.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like them.

I always grow yellow beans because they are easy to find!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

it is a lot easier to find them.

@andersonomo597

Жыл бұрын

Same here - and the purple ones are great too!

Wow! Your thoroughness is delightful!!! Thanks for the amazing work!

this is my first time finding this channel and I'm astounded! I love how thorough you are! definitely subscribing

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you found my channel!

Thank you! Your trials and information are very valuable for me to plan my new family garden. 🌱🌱❤

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

All your videos are very helpful. Keep it up Sir 🙏🏻

Very valuable content! I love how detailed you are!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

Another banger-- i've been thinking hard about expanding my bean harvests. Appreciate your reflective videos.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

I truly enjoy how analytical your videos are. There's so many variables involved in growing vegetables. You are so complete in your analysis. Please keep up the great work.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Another great trial. Started a new list of seeds to look for soon to try next year.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

Whatever we find and will grow to maturity, we're adopting those guys.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Good plan.

Great video again!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I was super lucky to receive some emerite beans years ago and they really are a great all rounder plant. I am not sure how popular they are throughout the rest of Canada though. I'll keep an eye out for the Helda variety. I would like to give them a try. Thank so much for all that hard work. Super interesting! 😊

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Those beans are good, I was glad someone sent the variety to me.

Really love watching these videos Bruce. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This year I grew a variety of phaseolus coccineus, which I believe are called runner beans in English. The variety I grew was Prijswinner, from the Netherlands. It stood up to the beating wind from the nearby sea (±5km) without problem and gave very tasty, beany-tasting beans. It also flowers with a gorgeous red flower that attracts many bees. It's still producing, because unlike the vulgaris species, coccineus can withstand cool temperatures, allowing it to be sown earlier (beginning of May for me) and crop for longer (I expect until the first night frost). I mention this because I know you suffer from wind a lot in the garden. This species seems to be very resistent to that, and I've used it as a wind break for other vegetables as well. Win-win!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Yes, runner beans are great. Very productive in the outside gardens, and a more common form of climbing bean around here. They do make a good windbreak!

I grow both Neckargold and Brunhilde outside here in Sweden and sometimes I have to replant but in the end it is giving me a decent crop 🙌🏼

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Good to know, I definitely want to try them outside.

Those Borlotti make a wonderful “pasta e fagioli”. Something you have to try

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I will have to try that. Thanks for the recommendation.

At 7:37 the harvetstime diagram you had me! Punched the subscribebutton and looking forward to see past & future videos.😊 You're my kind of farmerguy. Scientific, clear and curious. Well done and thank you! I have tried Cobra three years ago and loved it. Raised bed outside in 2 stacked pallet collar and a 2 m net for climbing (reusing sturdy leftover fence). It actually grow a lot taller. A good yield and nice taste. But now I definitely would try to find som Helda seeds! Maby from a seedsaving community for heirloom lokal old varieties I'm in to. I have to found out your climate compared to mine in Sweden.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you appreciate those charts. I am never sure how many people actually get anything out of them. Interesting that we have similar climates. I want to try growing these different beans outside next year.

Living on Anglesey, I too have a windy environment. So often the supports were blown down, or all the leaves blown off the vines that a harvest can not be relied upon. Dwarf French gave a good supply of beans when grown outside, in a trough in a greenhouse, and in the new polytunnel. However, I like the flavour of runner beans so it was one of the reasons I got my polytunnel. My favourite is 'White Lady'. Good flavoured green pods and stringless. Any white beans can be used in soups and cassoulets without giving an unappetising colour that the pink and black speckled ones do. Thanks for another interesting video.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences. The runner beans definitely seem tastier in the polytunnel, though I haven’t tried the White Lady variety. Sounds interesting.

Yet again another video that i am going to go back and take notes. I could watch your videos all day. Because you have me so interested. You make my mind race with wonder. I am definitely going to be doing some comparisons. My thoughts are, how did these compare in the kitchen? Which was your preference there? Are yields the most important factor (for me)? What variety do you think would be most appealing to kids? The one I never thought about till this past year, how much to plant, how much is too much? I didn't have a plan to deal with what was above and beyond my family's needs, and i didn't have a grasp on a per plant level how much to expect.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Ah, thanks! South a lovely comment to receive. I didn’t get a chance to do a proper taste trial, but I did really like the Helda variety.

I’ve grown Helda in Washington State, zone 8b maritime climate. I suppose I always thought we were similar. This trial has made me want to revisit that variety as I have some seed left…

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I do like that variety. I think our winters seem to be similar, but you might get warmer summers over there, which would help with the beans.

We had Emerite beans for dinner this evening, harvested today, which was October 20th. The quality was almost as good as it was for the first harvest. There are still large numbers of pods on the plants, although sadly many have become over mature. The harvest became simply overwhelming after many pickings.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is late in the season!

Useful stuff, as the UK heatwaves caused all the flowers of runner beans to drop off due to excessive overnight temperatures, and the leaves to get frazzled by daytime temps/sunlight. The only runners to produce OK during our heatwave were the climbing french bean/runner bean crosses.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is interesting that the cross plants did better than the runner beans!

@David_Bell_growing

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens The French/Runner crosses (same as true French climbers) don't lose their flowers in heatwaves, so I'll be trying some next year, dont want to go without runner beans again.

After trying many varieties my go to for flavor and production is the “Meraviglia di Venezia”, a yellow flat variety that cooks really well. I highly recommend it

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Ill have to keep an eye out for seeds.

@OrtoInScatola

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens if you have trouble finding them let me know, I can send you some

I prefer the taste of the flat podded beans too. Hunter is a really good variety. There are some dwarf flat podded varieties too, I'm trying Nassau and Capitano next year.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried Hunter, but it seems to be a more common version. I'll have to keep an eye out for those dwarf versions.

Thanks for another informative video! If you're growing corn/maize anyways, you can find space for Borlottos by interplanting them. I gave up on the "3 sisters" approach for fresh beans, because harvesting was so much extra work, but borlottos work well because they aren't harvested on an ongoing basis. I have been growing brunhilde and neckargold for the past number of years, and their production has always been comparable to the green varieties (neckarkönigin, blue lake) - or rather, differences in productivity were much more influenced by other factors (irrigation, nutrient availability) than by variety. Even if that were not the case, I find that the colour is a quality that I'm willing to take into consideration when comparing value.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of doing the three sisters thing with dried beans, as you say it be a lot less harvesting, so less having to get in around the squash and corn. I am hoping that the Brunhild and Neckargold do a lot better when I try them outside.

I'm growing outside. This year was very dry and Cobra was slow to fruit. Cobra has been my go to bean for a few years now, but I'd like to try Emerite and Helda now.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

One to my plans next year is to see how any of these varieties grow outside.

I started a garden this year and I tested 4 different varieties of pole beans 2 of them failed and never grew into anything they were purple and yellow wax beans. I planted rattlesnake beans and they did fantastic and towards mid to late summer I planted another variety for a fall crop and they are doing really well to but the winner for me was the Rattlesnake Beans and that’s what I will be growing next year once I save some seeds. 👍 I was recently out at the garden centre and came across some Snow Peas called Purple Mist they looked interesting so I bought a package of them for a new test next year.

@REDGardens

10 ай бұрын

Always cool to test the different varieties! And to keep trying the different ones. A variety I had given up on a while ago is now one of my favourites. Not sure why it did so poorly the first time.

@jeffwindrim975

10 ай бұрын

@@REDGardens I’m going to try coco blue next year it looks like a good pole bean.

My horticulture science fix for the week !

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

Using the bean in the kitchen, I love the pressure cooker. I don't always make them the star of the dish. I often use them sparingly and that tends to work great for me

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I want to cook with these kinds of beans a lot more.

With the problems with seeds in the past two years, I'd grow all three of the top choices. That way you insulate yourself from a potential failure of any one variety.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, diversity and redundancy is a good plan.

great video thank you

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

The Blauhilde doesn’t give a lot of beans at the start, but it keeps this up for several months outside.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is interesting. Going to try it next year.

I let most of my climbing beans go to seed and then put the seeds in soups and stews. Also, I never grow them under glass. I find they grow fine out in the open, even here on the North East Coast of England.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear that you have had good experience growing them outside. I have tried a few bush varieties outside, which didn't do very well, and wonder how the climbing versions will do next year.

Luv me beans Simple as

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

I was a bit disapointed with neckar gold, and it was my first time growing it. Borlotti as well was very slow. My most prolific were the purple varities of climbing french bean, but next year I will be planting far more black turtle bean. I just planted and left until they were dry. Pulled out the whole plant, stripped and podded them. I'm pretty sure I will be going back to good old fashioned runners next year like Scarlets. I did end up with too many beans as usual, but I have dehydrated tons, although it was such a tough start. Nothing was growing in spring because, once more, it was too cold and I kept having to replace plants because of the slugs.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Runner beans can be so productive! I am intrigued how the runner beans and French beans will compare outside.

@Pixieworksstudio

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens Yes that will be really good to see

Doesn't surprise me the romano beans done well if you can source Northeaster or the french haricot seeds I would try them also even though one of your varieties seemed similar as I've noticed they tolerate colder weather better than other varieties..All the best loving these vids and your experiments even though I'm in a different climate you've inspired me to do some comparisons myself .

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I will keep an eye out for Northeaster. I want to try them outside, and keen to find varieties that will produce in this climate.

@sportguy-live26

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens they're useful for colder climates because they have less growing days before they set fruit than most varieties and I just googled Ireland and in summer it should work outside as long as there's no frost as I know frost will kill them if unprotected..I'm an avid gardener but I'm in a completely different climate just googled Ireland and checked out the average temperatures for each season..It's not that easy for you and you're doing amazingly well harvest wise to be honest just as good as us that have favourable condition taste is a different matter don't know if you notice between tunnel and outside. I'm intrigued by your research you're a pioneer which is cool just hard work even though your work doesn't affect me personally I want to thank you for sharing your research and findings I appreciate it as it helps the next generation. All the best I'll be watching..👍

This is the trial I was waiting for!! I disagree on the Borlotti as I favour the dry beans to the pods. We use the borlotti beans in many meals (casseroles, risottos). I grow a much of them as possible. With regards to French beans, I’m still looking for the best variety, as straight and thin pods would be the ideal ones for me. So much better than runner beans.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is cool. I want to start growing more for dry beans.

@VagabondAnne

Жыл бұрын

One variety to try is Fortex, possibly as popular as Emerite.

Cheers for the video. One thought I had about borlotti bean yield: maybe the reduced moisture content from drying might skew the yield weight? Another thought: might borlotti be better suited to your simple, bulk garden system?

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

The pods were weighed when the seeds were full size, before they dried, but the pods were dehydrating, but still a factor. It depends on what you want to eat I think. I wood be interesting to add a dry bean to that garden. I just don't know if any of the varieties will grow well in our climate. Something to test next year.

Do you think your climate impacted your Borlotti crop? I definitely want to grow it next year because they are delicious. It looks like I should research and increase my planting if they will not have high yields in my climate. Thanks for these comparisons, I really appreciate your approach and reporting on results. Now I want to try Helda in a future growing season.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I don't know. The climate int eh polytunnel is quite warm, and possibly a lot closer to the Italian climate where they came from. Hope the Helda works well for you.

Anyone knows which one tastes more like Mexican black beans(bush turtle beans)?? I d like to dry them and use them in mexican cusine. Those three greens look like black beans but do they taste the same??

I’m loving watching your channel especially the trials. Where can I buy some Emerite bean seeds from? I’ve started a project to grow food for my local food bank and I need to factor yields into what we grow as the space is small. This seems a great choice for next year. Thank you and keep up the great work. Teresa

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

A grower in The west coast of North America sent them to me, so I don’t know where they can be put chased. Good luck with your growing project.

@londonorganicgrower8538

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens would it be possible to buy a few from you and I could save seed from them?

Shiny Fardenlosa???

where do you get emerite from? never come across it before.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

A grower in the West Coast of North America sent them to me.

Seems that Emierite are only sold in US and Canada, is it where you got the seeds from?

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Another grower in West Coast North America.

Will the saved seeds grow true or have they been further hybridized by close proximity to the other varieties ? I assume they are all hybrids.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Apparently with this species of bean, the flowers are all self pollinating as the flower opens, so cross pollination is very rare. And this only happens with insects, and I did not notice any bees at these flowers (they were all interested in the courgette and other flowers). So I think cross pollination in this case is not likely.

Very nice 🌹

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Is there any bean variety which you can grow in your conditions outside?

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I don't know, but what to try this year.

Nice experimentation. It's a pity that, as far as I can see, Emerite seeds aren't available to buy in the UK. Emerite also looks slightly thinner/straighter than Cobra which I think are desirable traits.

@REDGardens

11 ай бұрын

Cobra or Fasold are pretty close to Emerite. Someone sent em a package of Emerite seeds from the West Coast of North America.

flavor though?

Im struggling to find Emerite variety except from the UK. Do you have a source for them? thanks!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I got them from a grower in the west coast of North America.

@MrMoekanz

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens ah ! maybe I will have to get some sent over from the states son and build up the seed supplies from there- unless you are selling some?

How do you find runner beans vs French climbing beans? This year I reduced my runner beans planting to stick some climbing French beans for thr first time and didn't get a single French bean, but my beans in general did badly due to the very dry weather we had

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

The runner beans can be more productive outside than the French beans are inside the polytunnel, but I haven't done a side by side trial yet.

@fpsninja1

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens ah I don't have a polytunnel. Is it not worth trying climbing beans then (based in Midlands uk)

I suggest trying Red Noodle beans - they're not as productive, but the flavor is nutty and very different.

@VagabondAnne

Жыл бұрын

I think those might not grow as well in Ireland - they are technically cowpeas which like rather more heat (I have trouble growing them in mild northern California).

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting.

wouldn't the dry beans be better for winter usage? fresh green beans are great during growing season in the summer but dry beans are good during winter..

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

They would be better for winter use, though in our rainy climate I’m not sure how well they would dry. We blanch and freeze a lot of green beans, which see us through the winter.

I enjoyed the novelty of growing dried beans, but now I only do that if there's a special variety I can't buy in bulk. Otherwise, the cost of growing them far outweighs the price when you just buy them in bulk, and that's ignoring the effort required to harvest and winnow.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is what I have been thinking, but want to try next year to see.

@AtheistEve

Жыл бұрын

I’ve come to that conclusion, too. But I want to keep a veg garden (and the skills to tend one) - as back up.

@toddmain

Жыл бұрын

@@AtheistEve Totally. I love vegetable gardening and wouldn't give it up! I just have been more choosy lately about what I grow, in attempt to have the garden fund itself and maybe even save us money. So for me, green beans are in and dried beans are out, except for a couple of varieties that I can't buy at the store.

Hey man!!! it's just my curiosity.... you actually are in Ireland , aren't You ? , but if I don't watch and just listen , I hear somebody from NY or W dc.. or .....you know. Great update from your work !!!

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense. I am originally from Canada, not so far away from East coast USA.

how do you get superior seeds....??

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

grow them myself!

@traditionalfarmer6299

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens wow...so good, how do you do it...??

assuming you sell your produce. The purple and yellow beans might increase the value/ price of the beans and so from a commercial point of view might be worth the lower yield? I grow both yellow and purple for home consumption just for the visual appeal. But of course I’m not growing on anything like your scale.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is a good point. I do sell the surplus vegetables, but at an honesty stand, so I unfortunately don't get any real feedback.

Are the Borlotto pods also edible as well as the beans?

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I haven't eaten them, as they tend to be leathery and tough.

@simonjack8122

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens sounds like they're only good for feeding to animals or fixing nitrogen

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

@@simonjack8122 The beans inside are delicious.

@simonjack8122

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens so leathery and tough but also delicious😊

Have you tried growing chickpeas?

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I haven't yet.

You can grow in pot right .

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried, but probably.

Where do you live ?Just wonder about your climate. thank you

@REDGardens

5 ай бұрын

Ireland. A cool, maritime climate.

Dried Beans give much less yield but you can store them for years without any input.

@AtheistEve

Жыл бұрын

But you can buy dried beans/pulses pretty cheaply anyway. Sometimes I think that it would be better to turn over my whole veg garden to just high value fresh produce. I don’t know, asparagus? truffles? 🤔

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That balance between ease, yield and high value, is an interesting one.

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@REDGardens

Ай бұрын

Proves that plant breeders are very good at selecting for interesting traits.

Why not compare plants by amount of calories produced per plant or m²? I know that it won't always be good to use calories (it's not fair for leafy vegetables, herbs, cucumbers, etc) but for things like bean pods Vs bean seeds I think it can help us understand the difference in yield better than judging by weight. After all the main purpose of plants is to help us put the energy they collect from the sun in our bodies.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That kind of analysis would be interesting. A key issue is that I cannot determine the calories in any crop or variety, and would have to rely on the ‘typical calories’ that is determined from conventional food, so no way of accounting for vegetables or seeds from different varieties or of much higher quality. I generally see vegetables as mor of a way to get the complexity of vitamins and minerals and lots of other good stuff, and rely on other types of food (grain, meat, etc.) for the calories. The energy the vegetables collect is great, but not the main reason for eating vegetables.

For what it's worth Bruce, beans are bad for saving if you grow more than one variety near each other. They cross breed and the next generation will be a mixed batch and undependable. I discovered this several years ago and lost an outstanding cultivar of green climbers through cross breeding with a bush bean variety.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

That is interesting. Most info I have read claims that they generally aren't cross pollinated.

@billastell3753

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens I grew blue lake pole beans for 4 years from saved seeds each year. Always consistent quality. Then I grew a row of yellow bush beans beside them one year. The following year I only grew the seed saved from the pole beans and I got a few yellow pole and several green pole type that were not typical of the blue lake. I ended up throwing the seed away as they were not up to the quality of my original pole beans. I haven't done any research to see what science says but I only save seed from isolated bean varieties now. Tomatoes I have found to be less sensitive to pollinating from nearby varieties though a bit of crossing occurs. Peppers are about the same as tomatoes. This has been my unscientific experience. I am still learning though.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

@@billastell3753 That is interesting and a valuable anecdote. Definitely something to watch out for. Thanks.

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@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

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@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

🙂

@f3n1xplat3ad0

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens that little dot (.) Is a seed. I hope it helps the YT algorithm. I love your content, but not always have a comment to leave. So, I leave a ( . )

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

@@f3n1xplat3ad0 I figured that! Thanks!

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@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Sixth!

@leontienfrieldarrell2032

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens actually 8th but whatevz

@sagopalm279

Жыл бұрын

that would be me sir

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

@@sagopalm279 i obviously can’t count!

@sagopalm279

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens with all the trials you've been doing must be burnt out on numbers

You put my puny patio grow to shame.

@REDGardens

Жыл бұрын

Any garden is a good garden!!

@davet6834

Жыл бұрын

@@REDGardens Will be trying again next spring. Plan 3 sisters from a native American site I follow. Stalk to support the vine.