See how a manure lagoon works and why farmers want to build even more of them

If you buy a house on the 9 million acres of agricultural districts in New York state, you sign a disclosure form that says the farmers near you have the "right to farm" even when it causes noise, dust and odors.
Still, when a farmer decides to build a lagoon to store millions of gallons of liquid manure, the neighbors are often disappointed to find out they have little say in the matter. They can also be shocked to hear that government sometimes requires manure storage and even helps pay for it.
Since 1994, 461 manure storages have been built with state financial help, according to the NYS Department of Agriculture and Markets. Others are privately or federally funded.
The "Right to Farm" is a state law that protects 25,316 farms on 6.5 million of those 9-million acres of agricultural districts. The rest of that land is occupied by people who do not farm.
Dan Palladino, president of the Onondaga County Farm Bureau, encourages farmers to be proactive and share their plans even when it isn't required.
"We have to all work together," Palladino said. "If we're in an agricultural district, we have to understand what the farmer needs to do and we have to understand what the public needs and what we can do to help them."
Mike McMahon, of McMahon's EZ Acres in Homer, allowed us to fly a drone over the lagoon on his dairy farm and explained how it was designed.
McMahon, other farmers and government officials say storage is the best practice to protect the environment from runoff.
Storage allows farmers to spread manure on fields on only the best days - when the soil is dry and less likely to run off of wet and frozen ground into lakes and streams.
What kinds of lagoons are built in New York state?
Before a lagoon is built, farmers test the make-up and quality of the soil to understand the geology of the site, said Mark Burger, executive director of the Onondaga County Soil and Water Conservation District.
If the soil can support an earthen lagoon, it can be dug into the ground and lined with clay, he said. Some earthen lagoons are also reinforced with concrete bottoms or walls.
If the soil does not support an earthen lagoon, farmers can use a plastic product called "octaform." It has a series of hollow, plastic rectangular chambers filled with concrete. That type of storage is also easy to cover to keep out rain or to digest methane gas for energy.
Farmers also consider the type of bedding they use when they choose the type of material to use in lagoon construction, he said. The bedding goes into the lagoon along with the manure.
For example, if the animals bed on sand, farmers like to build a concrete floor to make it easier to capture the sand and use it on the soil, he said.
Soil and water conservation districts help small farms implement official environmental management plans, which address manure storage and other issues, state officials said.
Large industrial farms are regulated through a CAFO (concentrated animal feeding operation) permit, which requires a comprehensive nutrient management plan that takes into account the farm's slopes, nearby waterways, soil erosion potential, farmstead facilities and nutrient sources.
Engineers must also work within USDA standards and must be able to divert surface groundwater and contain the precipitation that falls into the storage.
"You've got highly trained professionals out there, taking these corings or these trenchings and analyzing the soil and the geology to make that determination," he said. "It's not just you and I going out there to do it."
How many times have they leaked?
There have been three manure storage overflows and one leak in the last five years in the Central New York region, which generally covers Oswego to Broome counties, according to the DEC.
The latest incident is still under investigation. In February, a structural issue with a lagoon forced farmers to spread manure on snow on an unusually warm winter day. The snow melted, causing manure to flow into Cayuga Lake.
In 2013, manure overflowed into a small tributary from a storage at Ashland Farms, in Cayuga County. The DEC issued a $3,000 fine and the farm was required to increase the size of the storage.
EFS Farm, in Madison County, was assessed a $750 penalty after an overflow in 2013. The manure ponded in a field and did not reach surface water, according to the DEC.
O'Hare Dairy II, in Chenango County, had an overflow in 2011 that did reach surface water. The DEC assessed a $1,750 penalty and required repairs and an emergency action plan.
Video by Michelle Breidenbach, Christa Lemczak and N. Scott Trimble. Illustrations by Peter Allen. Music by MK2. Additional content: Google Earth and New York State Department of Agriculture

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  • @belligerenttheo2359
    @belligerenttheo23596 жыл бұрын

    People complain about homelessness, yet whenever the city builds affordable housing, it isn't supposed to be in their backyard... People complain about pesticides contaminated the water supply, yet whenever farmers use manure, it's not supposed to happen in our backyard... People complain about losing their jobs, yet whenever a new factory opens it's not supposed to be in our backyards.... People complain about public transportation, yet we don;t want commuter rail lines to open in our backyards... The not in my backyard (NIMB) mentality has to stop... If we ever want to live in a future where we don;t commute 50 mins to work everyday, every aspect of our lives will have to take place in our neighborhoods, not in the middle of nowhere.

  • @got2kittys

    @got2kittys

    6 жыл бұрын

    Belligerent Theo. NIMBYS are only topped by BANANAS. - Buuild absolutely nothing anywhere near anything.

  • @juliusfucik4011

    @juliusfucik4011

    6 жыл бұрын

    We can work remotely perfectly fine. We can shop from far away without problems. Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water

  • @elaineeast-byers2339
    @elaineeast-byers23396 жыл бұрын

    Glad the farmers have the say. It’s beautiful to live in a farming community but remember we need our farmers to do the everyday hard work to keep us feed. I’m on their side

  • @watchthe1369

    @watchthe1369

    6 жыл бұрын

    TL:DR They are recycling the manure in a GREEN manner the herds used to graze and manure the ground at random right, we are just making the process more intense.

  • @jussayinmipeece1069

    @jussayinmipeece1069

    6 жыл бұрын

    actually it should be a consensus between farmers and residents since not all farmers are the nice environmental model citizens portrayed in this feel good video and when factory farms are involved we can be sure that they have ZERO interest in either people or the environment.

  • @seededsoul

    @seededsoul

    6 жыл бұрын

    This method does not capture the powerful greenhouse gas, methane, generated by rotting cow poo. These people will only ever act in their self-interest, you cannot trust them.

  • @abbeyreligion7590

    @abbeyreligion7590

    6 жыл бұрын

    elaine east-byers l

  • @Alvin-Sy

    @Alvin-Sy

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Seededsoul, They literally fed you, what do you want the farmers to use ? Chemicals ? One way to stop them from raising cows is to stop eating meat, so there is no one there to provide the farmer with organic manure to grow the crops, and lets them just use chemicals which will eventually seep into underground water also.

  • @konsul2006
    @konsul20066 жыл бұрын

    So much respect for the hard-working farmers around the world. Thank you for feeding us.

  • @mato4334

    @mato4334

    Жыл бұрын

    you mean harmers

  • @joshuavocke3850

    @joshuavocke3850

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mato4334 How’s that?

  • @WhyAreYouAngry

    @WhyAreYouAngry

    4 ай бұрын

    theyre not doing charity work.

  • @achut1967
    @achut19673 жыл бұрын

    Solution is simple. First use fresh manure to create free biogas which can fuel the farm machinery and gas heaters in winter. Then vermicompost to enrich the manure then fertlise fields. Use the manure to create planter pots which enrich gardens. Dried manure logs provide for eco-friendly fire logs and preserve forests.

  • @heal-thylife77
    @heal-thylife775 жыл бұрын

    When I was younger my dad built our house on an old cow farm. And I mean even 10 years later if there was a heavy rain you could smell manure but boy was the grass as green as ever:)!!

  • @tobiashammerli5489
    @tobiashammerli54896 жыл бұрын

    Swiss farmers have been doing this for ages, yes it stinks but I prefer a little smell to artificial fertilizer ANY DAY.

  • @adamkendall997

    @adamkendall997

    6 жыл бұрын

    Trust me, we've been doing this for a long time here too. The only thing new is the concrete containment. Also we have dairy farms where the cows come automatically to get milked on a giant carousel.

  • @12345harleyman

    @12345harleyman

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SimonWoodburyForget it's not 100% artificial alot is it comes from recycled conventional oil that has other things added to make it far superior.

  • @WildhareXXX

    @WildhareXXX

    5 жыл бұрын

    Here in Wisconsin, we love our dairy-air !

  • @546cowboy8

    @546cowboy8

    5 жыл бұрын

    That artificial fertilizer is supplied by Monsanto and they are what at any other time would be a monopoly. They also control the seed industry through the paid court system. Do you really believe they tell you what is in that fertilizer, do you believe they are not manipulating the prices of those products. Thank Bill Clinton for that and other industries with legal monopolies after he open the patent office so companies could control every Gene and limit research to profit.

  • @GFSwinger1693

    @GFSwinger1693

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Steve Sherman The livestock still craps while in the barn and that is collected and stored.

  • @kingofpower2
    @kingofpower25 жыл бұрын

    I don't care about the smell or the poop, just let the cows run in the field every once in a while. Happy cow taste better.

  • @markleggett9714
    @markleggett97146 жыл бұрын

    spread the liquid manure around Hollywood. No-one would notice.

  • @scottjacobs7341

    @scottjacobs7341

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark Leggett Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂

  • @damien1781

    @damien1781

    6 жыл бұрын

    Detroit

  • @mrgreyman3358

    @mrgreyman3358

    6 жыл бұрын

    at least the manure has a useful purpose in life.

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    6 жыл бұрын

    or washington d.c.

  • @carterprebish5111

    @carterprebish5111

    5 жыл бұрын

    World's already full of it.

  • @zachmiller9175
    @zachmiller91756 жыл бұрын

    If you don't like the smell of manure... Don't move close to a dairy farm. Seems pretty self explanatory

  • @MadMax-yq9ix
    @MadMax-yq9ix6 жыл бұрын

    Farmers feed the whole world dont hate them or what they have to do.

  • @MsStevo2000

    @MsStevo2000

    6 жыл бұрын

    well not the whole word but most of it

  • @beckywatt5048

    @beckywatt5048

    6 жыл бұрын

    most use chemical fertilizer anymore seeds and glysophate gender bender spray and commiting suicide on themselves as well as everyone else knowing ly or unknowingly.

  • @beckywatt5048

    @beckywatt5048

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve Sherman It's a sad shame I've worked around small,med ,and somewhat larger farmers my whole life ,and until just recently and I mean just they did not have a clue about how in the dark they were and how manipulated they are partially due mild antisocial nature.

  • @oakhillfarmer4839

    @oakhillfarmer4839

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve Sherman how does nothing here indicate a farm? Cause when I checked last it was a farm, it dosent matter how much machinery or how big the stuff is

  • @oakhillfarmer4839

    @oakhillfarmer4839

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve Sherman which is what this farm is doing, it's probably run close to what ours is... we are a dairy farm but also produce grain or "cash crop" farms arnt and shouldn't be classified as anything they are a farm that produces food for the world and that's the end of it....

  • @mattbruns239
    @mattbruns2394 жыл бұрын

    I see alot of people complain about the large farms on here. It is not abour how big a farm you have it is about how you manage it. I seen a very large farm managed way better than any family farm near me. Manure lagoons are very popular even with small producers. However they are terrible for the ground. The reason being the ammonia they produce kills the micro organism and worms in the ground when you apply it. Thoses little guys are what does all the work. Now give it a couple weeks and they can start to repopulate. But damage is done. Its not bad for a couple of times but poor farming practices continue to dwindle the top soil. That is the issue with manure management. Solids need to be removed immediately from the manure to lessen the ammonia. Besides, when you smell manure that is money leaving your pocket.

  • @Sliverbane
    @Sliverbane3 жыл бұрын

    Lived in Thorton, CO for a while. When the cattle would arrive you could smell it all the way across town even though the stock yards were rather far away. It was funky...but I got used to it.

  • @PikaPetey
    @PikaPetey6 жыл бұрын

    are people REALLY COMPLAINING? like what do they want the farmers to do with all the poop?

  • @whitneya.6930

    @whitneya.6930

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pikapetey Animations They want to see the end of animal agriculture. Too bad they don't understand that's what's used to fertilize all their Organic veggies.

  • @Andrew-jx1wz

    @Andrew-jx1wz

    6 жыл бұрын

    They don't need to have mega-factory farms, the entire industrial system doesn't work. Manure isn't the problem but rather the volume for profit is.

  • @chargermopar

    @chargermopar

    6 жыл бұрын

    How can we get them to realize the importance of animal manure for organic farming? I collect tons of horse manure from stables to mix with chipped tree waste to produce compost that ends up on my mango and avocado groves

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    6 жыл бұрын

    the technology to clean that $hlt up is available. administering it may cut into profits but it has to be done because you and your children have to live on this land also!

  • @buckrowley1506

    @buckrowley1506

    5 жыл бұрын

    leave it fallow for 120 days

  • @GordonGarvey
    @GordonGarvey6 жыл бұрын

    Rural areas are for farming and forestry. Don't like the smell? Go back to the city.

  • @KR-jg7gc

    @KR-jg7gc

    5 жыл бұрын

    Smells on the city too 😅😅.. ppl don't know what they want

  • @zimmhollowfarm8414

    @zimmhollowfarm8414

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yupe

  • @GordonGarvey

    @GordonGarvey

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderargead3993 it's not mine

  • @zimmhollowfarm8414

    @zimmhollowfarm8414

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexanderargead3993 reason for corn and soybeans is for animals like pigs cows and chickens and then the oils that they produce and then the leftovers from it is feed to animals. MANURE that is put into the ground helps the ground nutrients and then the emission on on all the new vehicles actually do not help there is no such thing as global warming and the sulfur that comes from the engine, and goes into the ground and helps with the nutrients of the ground. theres such thing as soybean oil which is in a lot of foods that you eat

  • @gateway8833
    @gateway88335 жыл бұрын

    We used manure to create Methane and ran all of our equipment on that fuel. When the Methane production was done we ran the leftover material through a a machine that separated solids from the liquids. Then we put the liquid in a series of plant filled pools and eventually we released it in a river, it was cleaner than river water.

  • @deeznutz9998
    @deeznutz99986 жыл бұрын

    I have read lots of comments about letting the farmers do what they want. But I'm willing to bet that a good percentage of people that are for the farmers don't live near them. So this doesn't affect you. But the best comment was from Richard Sci about how to deal with it, And having greater benefits of it. Farming is a business. and should be regulated as such. "But its a way of life"... It's a choice. same thing with recycling anything.

  • @wshtb
    @wshtb6 жыл бұрын

    People who move next airports should sign a similar disclosure form that says "airplanes have right to operate" even when it causes noise, dust, and odors.

  • @survivalgoldhunter

    @survivalgoldhunter

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nobody You forgot about the jet fuel over sprey.

  • @scottwallace3900

    @scottwallace3900

    5 жыл бұрын

    And cancer

  • @paulsawczyc5019
    @paulsawczyc50195 жыл бұрын

    Farming is the most honorable and important job in the world.

  • @eric6616
    @eric66164 жыл бұрын

    I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FARMERS THAT PROVIDED FOOD FOR ME OVER THE YEARS!!!!!

  • @Swalley311
    @Swalley311 Жыл бұрын

    God bless the farmers of America! They are truly our foundation. If you don't like what farmers are doing, move to a city!

  • @sharifabdul4237
    @sharifabdul42376 жыл бұрын

    Solid gold man . That was one daman good video. Natural fertilizer at its best. Those cows looks healthier. Good job dude. Keep it up. New generation dosent understand old timers sad to say.

  • @Blackcatholman
    @Blackcatholman5 жыл бұрын

    A good, educational video presenting the scientific explanations for what is happening. Living in an agricultural area often means living close to livestock. As long as people keep buying milk, dairy farms are going to be a part of the mix. Feedlots are even worse, we should put those in downtown.

  • @paulmoffat9306
    @paulmoffat93066 жыл бұрын

    I have suggested that the holding tanks should be covered, and the Methane gas collected for use in heating etc. That practice would eliminate the 'smell' and give the bacteria time to reduce the waste products.

  • @sydvestjyden2095
    @sydvestjyden20955 жыл бұрын

    Respect for a responsible use of manure. In Denmark you need storage for 9 month production and land enough to use it on

  • @maxmeier3550
    @maxmeier35506 жыл бұрын

    2:10 "at a rate of 100 gal per pump" I really wish filmmakers had some level of real-world competence

  • @MrJokkoma

    @MrJokkoma

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you mean they should say at a rate of 100 gallons per minute?"

  • @exphurtfan
    @exphurtfan6 жыл бұрын

    Other farmers complaining about how this could poison water supply when the technique they're using already does...Hmm, interesting

  • @trapperjohn3400
    @trapperjohn34006 жыл бұрын

    My dad is a heavy smoker so he can't really smell anything that well. He was tailgating a manure hauler one day and I was throwing up out the passenger window haha. There are two sides to any story so be understanding that there are smell concerns but I know it is important to sustainably grow crops using waste

  • @americanboy7040
    @americanboy70404 жыл бұрын

    In Pakistan, we have the same concept! The demand of buying this organic liquid is on high demand! It is the best and healthy way to live by the nature! No diabetes, heart problems or cancers!!!!

  • @richardarlendesignrad9785
    @richardarlendesignrad97856 жыл бұрын

    The actual term for it is, "slurry pit". This practice has been used for centuries.

  • @_____________________8736

    @_____________________8736

    5 жыл бұрын

    also known as Cesspools

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    THAT'S THE PROBLEM! WHY DO YOU THINK OUR LAKES AND STREAMS ARE SO POLLUTED?

  • @_____________________8736

    @_____________________8736

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@billcenne7262 its the rubbish that caused lakes to be polluted not the shits

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    wrong. it's runoff from factory farms and people's septic systems. it's called "e-coli"...........deadly.

  • @calebwagler853

    @calebwagler853

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@billcenne7262 I'd like to see the kind of manure that can seep through concrete. Did you watch the video, or just skip to the comments to tear someone apart? Watch 2:24 - 2:49 again, and tell me how some runoff can get away through that. Also, I am a dairy farmer, and I KNOW that manure isn't thin enough to seep into anything. It doesn't get down past the topsoil when it's spread.

  • @tritech
    @tritech6 жыл бұрын

    "100 gallons per pump" is not a rate.

  • @MrSiegenfeldt
    @MrSiegenfeldt5 жыл бұрын

    Why this was recommended to me is a question I'll Never get the answer to.. But here i Denmark, a large portion of the people who lives close the farmers fields actually somewhat likes the smell. I am one of them, and it gives me the same feeling as newly trimmed grass

  • @CraydenGamingOfficial
    @CraydenGamingOfficial2 жыл бұрын

    Manure smells amazing

  • @The_JEB
    @The_JEB5 жыл бұрын

    I dont think that people realize that dirt, plants, and all of the microorganisms in the dirt are all a natural filter, even if that manure seeps into the ground it'll get filtered out from the dirt itself and the end product is potable water.

  • @SuperCanada89

    @SuperCanada89

    5 жыл бұрын

    www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/us/18dairy.html

  • @caseyrichards3212

    @caseyrichards3212

    5 жыл бұрын

    That might be so with small concentrations, but at 100X-500X the concentration the microorganisms can't keep up and it ends up in the drinking water.

  • @mattbruns239

    @mattbruns239

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is true. Dirt that has lots of microorganisms is the best filter there is. Problem is that when manure is applied, it needs time to be filtered by the dirt. With all the tile in the ground it takes the manure when too much is applied. Also i think the gmo crops have hurt the amount of microorganisms in the ground.

  • @glenmarshall8168

    @glenmarshall8168

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm all for it but there is a risk of E coli that's why they put all those measures in place I'm guessing

  • @WesleyAPEX
    @WesleyAPEX5 жыл бұрын

    Manure is a better fertilizer than the chemical stuff. Everybody poops but would you really rather have chemicals in your bloodstream?

  • @s0515033

    @s0515033

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everything is a chemical, including water.

  • @green3975

    @green3975

    5 жыл бұрын

    you know what he meant smartass lol

  • @travisjohnson8240

    @travisjohnson8240

    4 жыл бұрын

    What he means is that he want E.Coli

  • @bsweeting1481

    @bsweeting1481

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Travis Johnson That's not how it works... you cant get E coli because food has been grown with manure.

  • @Felix_Effex
    @Felix_Effex4 жыл бұрын

    We NEED more of these manure lagoons!! Especially where run off is a problem in the Lake Erie basin and watershed!!!

  • @mattbruns239

    @mattbruns239

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am here in the same area. I see the effects of manure management. you could not be more wrong about having more of these lagoons. Seems like a good idea at first. I thought the same thing 5 years ago. Did my researching on alot of things. It seems it all comes back to your top soil. When you spread manure from a lagoon or deep pit, the ammonia damages the worms and microbes to where the cannot do their job.

  • @bulamugenarationsfamilyfar6768
    @bulamugenarationsfamilyfar6768 Жыл бұрын

    Much love from Bulamu family farm Africa Uganda ❤

  • @drivesthecar3247
    @drivesthecar32476 жыл бұрын

    All the tree huggers clamoring for "organic" this-that-and-the-other-thing and then belly aching when they find out what it actually is!! SMH!!

  • @Ariccio123

    @Ariccio123

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jetta Driver in fertilizer speak, "organic" means something very different. It means it's not pure, and thus releases slower.

  • @Psycoholic2008

    @Psycoholic2008

    6 жыл бұрын

    Most likely those corporate republic bitches honestly. XD They can't handle real work in their white collar jobs.

  • @chrisjohnson4666

    @chrisjohnson4666

    5 жыл бұрын

    My friends farm organic and others regular here is the diff... That organic food you buy is fertilized with cow, pig, or chicken crap. In some cases actual dead chickens as well... no weed chemicals can be used nor chemical insecticides so there happen to be allowed no much insect matter per pound or bushel in the product mainly eggs and carcass... In conventional farming a fertilizer pellet is used or ammonia gas to fertilize and weed killer boosts yields there by lowering over all product cost... Insecticides can be used but are not regularly as it is expensive only if the crop is at risk... SO there really is no sanitary means of farming you either fertilize with manure or chemicals...

  • @agargoyle12345

    @agargoyle12345

    5 жыл бұрын

    The part that kills me is when people eat organic without washing it. I see that all the time at farmer's markets.

  • @kev2020

    @kev2020

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisjohnson4666 organic only means what someone wants it to. Many chemicals used for weeds and insecticides etc are classified as organic. There have been cases of inspectors being bribed to give the official organic certification to producers. I buy organic but only because I know that it is better but not close to perfect unless I'm growing it myself.

  • @osirisrex3499
    @osirisrex34996 жыл бұрын

    1:57 the time you can't tell the difference between Farming game and Reality

  • @bazz2438
    @bazz24385 жыл бұрын

    I grew up down wind of a dairy farm. I didn't realize there were so many people ignorant to the fact that these are necessary.. I liked living in such country.

  • @jonclatworthy2279
    @jonclatworthy22796 жыл бұрын

    Utilizing manures for crop nutrition is the best thing for it. The problems arise from volatalization of the Ammonia and the venting of Methane from the manure along with polltuion of aquifers and water courses. What the industry should be aiming for is capture of those gas either by slurry store covers or injection of slurries into soils. The other aim should be to ensure manures are applied at the best time for crop utilization not just as the lagoon fills up. Protection of air soil and water are pretty crucial to ensure effective food supply.

  • @Shazzkid
    @Shazzkid6 жыл бұрын

    Its all hunky dory until it leaks into the water supply

  • @sina10001
    @sina100015 жыл бұрын

    This is what over consumption of meat and dairy will do. People need to readjust their diets and not try to put bandaid on issues.

  • @Ethan-ck6iz

    @Ethan-ck6iz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why do you think that this manure is a bad thing?

  • @sina10001

    @sina10001

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ethan-ck6iz as a farmer there is a difference between good and bad manure. This type of manure is no good. It comes from mass produced meat, which is fed shitty diets, therefore shitty manure. Also, it then leaches into ground water furthering the issue.

  • @tj323i
    @tj323i5 жыл бұрын

    Perfect for a refreshing dip on a summer afternoon.

  • @gingerbaker1
    @gingerbaker15 жыл бұрын

    These lagoons are the source of most of the methane attributed to beef cows. If the manure is left to rot on dry land,tho,it produces a lot less methane. Lagoons should end.

  • @johncuervo3019
    @johncuervo30195 жыл бұрын

    They are missing out by not covering the ponds and collecting the methane gas

  • @mfanto1

    @mfanto1

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are over estimating the amount coming out and under estimating the cost of infrastructure required

  • @80rew
    @80rew6 жыл бұрын

    My meat comes from the store not a cow lol

  • @meganfox3409

    @meganfox3409

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tone Tone haha

  • @Reub3

    @Reub3

    6 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @Killer1986Chris

    @Killer1986Chris

    6 жыл бұрын

    When you call someone retarded you may want to use real words Brenden.

  • @HamguyBacon

    @HamguyBacon

    6 жыл бұрын

    Joke Head

  • @Russ92

    @Russ92

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brenden Funk smh lol

  • @davidchristensen6908
    @davidchristensen69086 жыл бұрын

    Living in farm country you will live with the aroma of farming. I have a problem with city people moving to the farming area and complain when they don’t understand the process of farming.

  • @dumyjobby
    @dumyjobby5 жыл бұрын

    manure is the absolute best fertilizer ever. It's natural, enriches the land and easely absorbed by the terrain. we should limit the use of pesticides and herbicides but not menure. is a gift from nature and very necessary

  • @memyselfandi9325
    @memyselfandi93255 жыл бұрын

    Now there's a big bowl of vegan soup!!!!

  • @bringsik100

    @bringsik100

    5 жыл бұрын

    With "natural refreshment odor" . Lol

  • @ricecookertm190

    @ricecookertm190

    3 жыл бұрын

    Biff gonna eat that

  • @MrJohnnyHandsome
    @MrJohnnyHandsome4 жыл бұрын

    Who else is here heard about “poop lagoons” from Scream Queens?!? 😂

  • @Felix_Effex

    @Felix_Effex

    4 жыл бұрын

    I found it from auto play from Industrial Hemp Farming..

  • @ofbirkinsandmen6025

    @ofbirkinsandmen6025

    4 жыл бұрын

    wonder if you can actually skate on those?

  • @paulthompson5968
    @paulthompson59685 жыл бұрын

    Cool bid. Educational and well put together. Thanks

  • @jameesmyth7268
    @jameesmyth72685 жыл бұрын

    There is one thing that can be done and a few farms are doing it. The smell everyone complains about is ... Methane.... A few farms that i know of have made Methane domes and then use that gas to run Generators for their Dairy farms this in turns helps keep the smell down and helps make a great dry or even wet fertilizer Its not really the smell after awhile you get use to it. It is people living in fear of it leeching into the water table. I can see this with the older Earth Lagoons which i see around here Some of these have been around for decades never changing. A few of these dairy farms even sit in flood zones and the Lagoons get flooded. so these folks tend to try to empty their Lagoons out soon as they can and those fields aren't use for anything other then crops for the cows. As for Chicken a lot of places take it off site to compost the waste. I myself am a Urban farmer. I raise chickens in the city and i compost their bedding and waste and after it has gone through and composted i give most of it away and my neighbors take it.

  • @rdekort9273
    @rdekort92736 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @mucholangs
    @mucholangs6 жыл бұрын

    150 lbs of manure from one cow a day? That is a lot. Considering the scope of this farm operation, they can afford to build a biogas anaerobic digester plant. They can use the methane to generate electricity for the farm. Then sell any excess power to the utility company. About 500 cows can run a 1MW plant (enough to power 450 homes). The digestate is pure inorganic fertilizer, with no odor. That'd make the neighbors happy. Even if the farmer can't come up with the cash for the digester, any bank would make that loan. Here are videos: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iWmquMGEZJiZY6Q.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4ejurKyaLW9nLQ.html

  • @GoatZilla

    @GoatZilla

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jonathan Thacker He literally, literally posted some reference links. There are 35 digesters listed for New York.

  • @mucholangs

    @mucholangs

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Jonathan Thacker "How many farmer's do you personally know that own a methane digester?" Do I really need to know any personally? "Where'd you get your information from?" Watch this, start from 2:40 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXehtMd8ZMzdopc.html It clearly states that 530 cows can produce 1MW, which in the UK powers up to 1,500 homes. The average American uses about 32kWh daily, compared to UK's 13kWh. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qn1lmJiJo5uqedI.htmlm37s I hope that helps you with the info you seek.

  • @mucholangs

    @mucholangs

    6 жыл бұрын

    @Jonathan Thacker "he made claims that are not supported by in reference links. Such as banks eagerly willing to lend the money. That is so so far from the truth." Prove it's far from the truth. Of course, if you have bad credit, you won't get a bank loan, no matter how viable your business plan is. "Also my cousin has an 8000 cow dairy farm with a digester" That is a lot of cows. How much energy is generated by the 8,000 cows? Note: the amount of methane that is generated depends on a few factors, such as temperature inside the digester, need to steer the slurry constantly, etc.

  • @Ethan-ck6iz

    @Ethan-ck6iz

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know one person in my area who has a digester. It's pretty neat.

  • @ZiFrenZie

    @ZiFrenZie

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wow, good idea.

  • @pnsmexico
    @pnsmexico2 жыл бұрын

    Three brothers died recently after falling in one of these and passing out from the fumes, the news said

  • @scottallen6970
    @scottallen69706 жыл бұрын

    I grew up near and working on farms. Believe it or not, I like the smell. It reminds me of my youth.

  • @joshsimpson10
    @joshsimpson106 жыл бұрын

    Don't live in agricultural districts if you don't like agriculture. ...

  • @travisjohnson8240

    @travisjohnson8240

    4 жыл бұрын

    People also complain about the bean and corn pickers making noise where I'm from

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie6 жыл бұрын

    So as usual, the complaints about the lagoons are out of ignorance rather than legitimate study

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    huh? obviously highly concentrated massive amounts of deadly gas not created naturally will draw scrutiny. regardless of what the scientific community says. those guys can be bought off also........

  • @wpog8453

    @wpog8453

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bill Cenne if you say so I guess... Right?

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    not "my" opinion, it's common knowledge. money talks in this country.

  • @wifighostcruiser9665
    @wifighostcruiser96656 жыл бұрын

    There's a lot of manure lagoons in America. There's suburbs like Compton, cities like Detroit, Sanctuary cities, rap concerts...........

  • @princetonpopcorncompany
    @princetonpopcorncompany6 жыл бұрын

    He is so right. Manure is the way to go (natural).

  • @taylorhill8001
    @taylorhill80016 жыл бұрын

    Dumb article, We need farmers, and cows and bison have been producing manure for eons!

  • @pickletickle8300

    @pickletickle8300

    6 жыл бұрын

    taylor hill the article is more in support of farmers...

  • @taylorhill8001

    @taylorhill8001

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pickle Tickle I disagree, and don't see where you came to that conclusion. They were talking about the smell of manure ponds invading the community and seeping into ground water and poisoning streams. How the community has no say, and the media represents the community not the farmer, did you read the footnote?

  • @taylorhill8001

    @taylorhill8001

    6 жыл бұрын

    stoeger 2 thats why we rely on farmers to enact sustainable grazing procedures along with pasture management, kind of difficult with urban sprawl. Deer seem to migrate for food just fine, but domesticated cattle don't have the same Instinct. Its also difficult for animals to migrate with roadways, railways, and fenced areas like they would have normally done less than a hundred or two hundred years ago.

  • @narkatameister
    @narkatameister6 жыл бұрын

    Smell is annoying but so is starvation.

  • @jgg29_19
    @jgg29_194 жыл бұрын

    I'm a farmer and if you complain about the smell shut up and going inside think about what the farmers smell going up close to it all day I've got used to the smell tho.

  • @vishnuvs9631
    @vishnuvs96315 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful place.... Wow...

  • @franky201226
    @franky2012266 жыл бұрын

    Wtf....Cow manure poisons water stream underground? R u serious?

  • @MAXQ14

    @MAXQ14

    6 жыл бұрын

    franky Kumuta yes its possible, the nitrogen in the manure, can flow down into the ground water, where the nitrogen will turn into nitrite, which is known to be a source of cancer is ingested to much

  • @franky201226

    @franky201226

    6 жыл бұрын

    Then what about chemical fertilisers which contains tons of nitrogen ? doesn't it too flown down into ground water ? Forest where have more greens composted on soil, doesn't that contains nitrogen too ? that means your saying waterstream from forest and mountains too polluted and can cause cancer ?

  • @MAXQ14

    @MAXQ14

    6 жыл бұрын

    that's why some countries have limitation on the amount of N (organic or chemical) you can use on your field, to protect the ground water. and forests off course also depose Nitrogen into the ground but that's not even near the amount that is being spread on fields to get a good yield

  • @franky201226

    @franky201226

    6 жыл бұрын

    There's a huge differentiation between Chemical and Organic(cow manure based) fertiliser's Nitrogen content. I don't think there's a huge difference between forest and cow manure. Forest have tons and tons of leaves, chips and animal manure composted on soil very compactly. Much higher amount of N is involved and efficiently transformed by microorganisms and plants at forest. cow manure contains mostly leaves and grains, which contains same level organic matters just like forest. If water polluted at fields due to spread manure then water from mountains and forest also polluted. (My opinion)

  • @MillennialFarmer

    @MillennialFarmer

    6 жыл бұрын

    franky Kumuta you're correct that decomposition in forests will also create nitrogen that eventually converts into nitrate and either flushes through the soil or goes into the air. To possibly clear it up some; we test the manure as it's being applied to the soil and we apply the proper amount or our goal of what we're growing. For me personally, I shoot for 180 bushel corn. I need about 200 pounds of total N to support that crop. I get some through organic decomp every year (about 40-50 pounds per acre in my area) which means I apply 150 pounds of N per acre each year. I have no idea how much N an active forest would develop. Hopefully this helps, maybe it was just me rambling!

  • @enistines
    @enistines6 жыл бұрын

    why not a biogas plant with little smell and make biogas then take the waste and then inject it.

  • @johnty4304

    @johnty4304

    6 жыл бұрын

    a bio plant works like a cows stomach you feed it silage and water, it digests it and produces manure, it will not run of slurry

  • @WorldsOkayestFarmer
    @WorldsOkayestFarmer5 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for the info you guys are doing it right

  • @Railos1
    @Railos15 жыл бұрын

    I agree and manuer is the best way to make and keep the soil healthy and it make and keeps the organic foods healthy also. I use to work on a farm and i understand and agree because poeple don't need the toxic chemicals being use nowadays in our foods, cattle and any other live stocks and crops!!

  • @marzinjedi6437
    @marzinjedi64376 жыл бұрын

    I can't smell the farm but won't go near a human waste plant because it stinks 😷 lol 😂 with out farmers no food!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    it has been proven that one human can exist from a four by four foot herb garden. theoretically, factory farms are not needed. i don't like vegetables, though. that's why i worked my way up to the top of the food chain.

  • @tcmtech7515

    @tcmtech7515

    5 жыл бұрын

    bill cenne, That's utter bullshit. Just do a basic caloric comparison of what typical human being needs for a year (2000 x 365 = 730,000) and equate that to available calories a veggie garden has per unit of space given any combination of veggies you want. Sad reality of basic herb/vegetable is very few pass the 100 calories per square foot mark which means for the average human it would take a garden of at least 7300 square feet to live off of in ideal conditions. In real world all organic farming that number multiplies by a factor of 5 or more, which is in a way how the old standard of the Acre unit of land area measurement (43, 560 square feet) came to be being it took about 1 acre of land to feed one person for a year under reasonable growing and maintenance conditions.

  • @BigThangsPopping
    @BigThangsPopping6 жыл бұрын

    Why not convert the methane from the manure into electricity???

  • @bmurphy0296

    @bmurphy0296

    6 жыл бұрын

    Squiggles and how would you implement that onto a farm what costs and what advantages would it be

  • @afox5319

    @afox5319

    6 жыл бұрын

    b.murphy more cost than profit. I am getting 0.04€ for a kw (selling solar power). Its just not worth it

  • @williamchamberlain2263

    @williamchamberlain2263

    6 жыл бұрын

    A Fox that's approx. the wholesale price, I think - www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=29512 - but there's probably a break-even point for sufficient power generation to give the farmer zero electricity costs, even if it doesn't use all the manure/methane.

  • @HamguyBacon

    @HamguyBacon

    6 жыл бұрын

    solar plant and Biogass are different.

  • @jonathantan2469

    @jonathantan2469

    6 жыл бұрын

    A Fox 4 Eurocents per kW? Man, that's lower than Australia at the moment. Where are you?

  • @prettylittlephotons
    @prettylittlephotons5 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this video!

  • @nealdew71
    @nealdew715 жыл бұрын

    In Scotland we say the smell of manure makes you hungry . We are a miserable lot but we have a sense of humour.

  • @kyeprice1301
    @kyeprice13016 жыл бұрын

    I love the smell of dairy cow manure lol

  • @kakashiboss8350

    @kakashiboss8350

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used to pick the cow dumb with my bare hand when I was young

  • @paulgraystone4919
    @paulgraystone49196 жыл бұрын

    its not the manure that bothers me, its the antibiotics that are not mentioned here.

  • @whitneya.6930

    @whitneya.6930

    6 жыл бұрын

    Antibiotics from where? The cows? Dairy cattle cannot be on antibiotics and have their milk sold for human consumption. All milk is tested for antibiotics before it leaves the farm and a single cow with drugs in her system will ruin the load.

  • @Someone-cb3zx

    @Someone-cb3zx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cows are not allowed to be on antibiotics all the time, if they have a bacterial infection sure. But they can't have milk harvested

  • @billcenne7262

    @billcenne7262

    5 жыл бұрын

    never forget, this is highly concentrated cow$hlt also, not naturally found in such high concentrations. nasty, toxic stuff........

  • @two-bit8502
    @two-bit85026 жыл бұрын

    I personally enjoy the smell of cow manure. Keep doing your thing farmers.

  • @inigomontoya8943
    @inigomontoya8943 Жыл бұрын

    There's certain strains of anaerobic bacteria that can be added that really aid the smell. Advancing Eco Ag supplies the best I've seen.

  • @vencent8329
    @vencent83296 жыл бұрын

    what happen when you fall down of 16ft of poop

  • @bmurphy0296

    @bmurphy0296

    6 жыл бұрын

    You drown

  • @MillennialFarmer

    @MillennialFarmer

    6 жыл бұрын

    That would be a shitty deal

  • @jonathanfitchett8021

    @jonathanfitchett8021

    6 жыл бұрын

    even worse are the aeration tanks at municipal wastewater facilities. imagine a lagoon of human filth twice the size but pumped full of so much air that there is no hope of floating or swimming to safety; the "water" is simply not dense enough to support a human body. your only chance of survival is if somebody happened to see exactly where you fell in and retrieve you in minutes. so, not likely.

  • @ecsciguy79

    @ecsciguy79

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wastewater facilities are most likely going to be surrounded by tall fences, not 3' high fences any six-year-old can climb over.

  • @kaljamaha3412

    @kaljamaha3412

    6 жыл бұрын

    You die really fast thats why we have a fence around our lagoon

  • @rajeshr6440
    @rajeshr64406 жыл бұрын

    I think they should force all vegans to farm... compulsory farming service for vegans... oh yeah

  • @crptguy7
    @crptguy7 Жыл бұрын

    It’s as green as you can get.

  • @fonddulaclandwater6058
    @fonddulaclandwater60583 жыл бұрын

    This is a very well done video!

  • @kylehaley5433
    @kylehaley54336 жыл бұрын

    The problem with lagoons is that when they do fail, they fail in a big way. They aren't telling you about the farm hand that gets paid 10$/hr who forgets to shut off a pump or neglects to fix a valve that breaks and dumps 100,000 gallons of liquid manure down that AA trout stream and kills all the fish for two miles.

  • @silvershelbygt5006

    @silvershelbygt5006

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kyle Haley douchey lib. Not only that, give ONE example of what you said happening. You can't because you're just a fucking douche bag liberal and fear monger.

  • @kylehaley5433

    @kylehaley5433

    6 жыл бұрын

    Why do I come across as a douchy libertarian?

  • @lhr1701

    @lhr1701

    6 жыл бұрын

    Put on your big boy pants because that is called an accident , and it could happen to anyone no matter what they are getting paid ! I live in NYC and the city composting areas and that stinks too ! They then sell it as organic soil . Nothing make the tools on the left happy !

  • @benlawton5420

    @benlawton5420

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh no 2 miles so much, not.

  • @lasergames1798

    @lasergames1798

    6 жыл бұрын

    2 miles is a big deal if the water source for thousands of people is contaminated. I'm sure the farmer has 6 months of drinking water ready to go for his neighbors. BTW I'm all for this stuff but you can't just ignore the negatives.

  • @scottrjmatmsncom
    @scottrjmatmsncom6 жыл бұрын

    this is a crappy article

  • @AriVovp
    @AriVovp5 жыл бұрын

    Totally support this practice

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer78486 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good work feat America and Beyond

  • @Tbarlow99
    @Tbarlow996 жыл бұрын

    Okay but we don't need milk in the first place

  • @GraveUypo

    @GraveUypo

    6 жыл бұрын

    oh shut up soyboy

  • @Chevy-fh2sx

    @Chevy-fh2sx

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ummmm milk is in 95% of the food you eat contains milk not that soy junk real milk from NATURAL cow's

  • @adamkendall997

    @adamkendall997

    6 жыл бұрын

    Because only dairy cows poop.

  • @ronwest7930
    @ronwest79303 жыл бұрын

    Its got issues. I worked on a pig farm and they had were fined several times for their lagoon releasing into a river nearby. I asked a guy from Iowa about the fishing there and he said the waterways were about dead from the pesticides and chicken farm runoff. I think making fertilizer from animal waste is the way to go. You can only spread so much on a given piece of property and then it will runoff. I'm not a large scale farmer and I don't have all the answers.

  • @LOTR_BTTF
    @LOTR_BTTF4 жыл бұрын

    I grew up near farmland that would lay manure down on their hay fields in the spring. What I always thought was kind of weird is that you typically would only smell it when moving (like driving by your car). Once you stopped moving you couldn't smell it anymore.

  • @drphil7024
    @drphil70245 жыл бұрын

    It's natural and it's there and for farmers with crops and animals it's free instead of buying chemicals

  • @singinginthedark2786
    @singinginthedark27866 жыл бұрын

    omg look how green and pretty that property is.

  • @MrGigi-dz9cv

    @MrGigi-dz9cv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe, that explains why people want to move there 😁😁😁

  • @anshjakatimath4607
    @anshjakatimath46074 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful

  • @andythomson2706
    @andythomson27065 жыл бұрын

    Compost pack barns are getting popular in Ontario. I am not sure how large of herds you can mange with this until liquid set ups beat it on efficiency.

  • @mistersuds7654
    @mistersuds76545 жыл бұрын

    Its a big septic tank. This sounds like a great idea and if it can be sealed like a septic tank that will deal with the smell.

  • @Fraggr92
    @Fraggr925 жыл бұрын

    Here's the thing though. Farmers supply all of us with food. Without farmers, the vast majority of us would simply die. That's something you can't get around. The problem is that farming on a small scale is not profitable. Machinery and equipment needed in order to satiate the demand for food is massively expensive but the product sells for dirt cheap and a lot of the money is taken away by distributors and sellers before it reaches the farmer. Meaning you need to sell a lot of product to stay afloat. What small-time farmers are usually forced to do is to sell part of their stock privately to locals and family members in order to dodge taxes or to do other jobs on the side that generate more money. They can't make enough money to live off their farm by conventional means because they can't produce in large enough quantities. So they are forced to either close down or expand and become more industrialized in order to be profitable until you have these massive factory-like farms that houses a thousand cows or thereabout. If we don't want these massive farms then we need to make small-time farming a sustainable job. A lot of that would be to simply accept that food would have to cost more. Of course no one wants to do that because more expensive food means less money for other things. The other thing that would need to happen would be to ensure that as much money as possible made it back to the farmer from the consumer, otherwise a lot of that extra money would just be eaten up by middle hands. Of course no one wants to do that either because it would mean that middle hands would lose money. That and putting a limit on how large a farm can become so that you don't run into the same problem that we have now again. And of course, no one would want to do that either because it would limit how profitable a farm could become.

  • @paulsinner7851

    @paulsinner7851

    5 жыл бұрын

    WELL SAID

  • @jonathanschadenfreude9603
    @jonathanschadenfreude96035 жыл бұрын

    I grew up working in a milking parlor, love those cows man! Milk cheese and yogurt ...plus great fertilizers, never had water problems .....lake Champlain is poisoned by TICONDEROGA WOOD MILLS

  • @blankx15
    @blankx156 жыл бұрын

    We use cow manure a lot. I remember when we were kids we would pick up dry cow manure and honestly they only smell like grass when properly dried. Just don't use chicken manure too much cause like any other avian their manure has urine mixed on them so they stink a lot.

  • @TheVigilantStewards
    @TheVigilantStewards5 жыл бұрын

    That's cool, but why don't they use bokashi or a compost method instead of spreading it as is? Or a liquid agent for the lagoon?

  • @MrGigi-dz9cv
    @MrGigi-dz9cv3 жыл бұрын

    It is normal, that If you decide to build a house next to a farm, to have to deal with the smells.

  • @teddyballgame4823
    @teddyballgame48235 жыл бұрын

    Huge dairy commercial farms in California use the use the manure to produce power.

  • @AlanJWatkins
    @AlanJWatkins6 жыл бұрын

    Manure Lagoon - my new band name!

  • @xcvx16
    @xcvx165 жыл бұрын

    Great information explained by someone who tried to hide their utter disdain for the practice.