I thought Horde Prime should've been a Glove for the collector to wear... that way "YOU" can be Horde Prime! ("Fun")

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That would have been cool!

@xeppozanfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 something for the future.

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

That is a really cool idea.

I remember fondly getting my Horde Prime in my office. Couldn't wait to get home to open it and check out how he actually looked like inside that helmet. I actually stopped my car at the side of the road to open him up to check him out instead of waiting till I got home 😆 😆🤣

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was a very exciting offering!

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I do many openings in the car.

@Dented_Battle_Armor

3 жыл бұрын

@@TitularHeroine ha! Too awesome bro!!

@crazyduplicate

2 жыл бұрын

Then another car crashed into you, making you a wrath permanently bound to this figure for the rest of time. Forever. The last thing you ever saw was his beautifully terrifying face gazing into your face. Far worse things you could haunt, to be fair, like, for instance, that weirdly painted 200x skeletor.

Horde Prime is awesome!! Four Horsemen made an excellent sculpt of the figure! By the way, Hordak, together with Stratos and Triklops, were available in our local malls months ago. Hordak was the first figure to be sold out. Whoa. Have a great weekend Scott.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That crazy. Always wondered what Mattel would do with any remaining stock

This was another great figure in classics!. I remember when my good buddy stopped over to check out my man cave and was looking at my classics collection, then he spotted the horde prime figure and was like Holy crap! What is that, they made horde prime figure from the gaint hand in the show. Thats awesome! I want one!

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I want to give you one! Alas, I have none to give...

It's that thing where it's never going to match your imagination, but at the same time is a very admirable attempt. Essentially, it's a cool looking figure, and you have to weigh expectations with reality.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah matching the imagination is just never possible

My problem with how the Horde (and the Horde Prime/Hordak pecking order) in the Filmation shows was that it redefined Skeletor’s role in the fiction. He went from “Evil Overlord” to “Evil Assistant Manager”.

@geechie-don7157

3 жыл бұрын

Not really lol. I enjoyed watching Skeletor and Hordak go at one another. Skelly was basically telling him to gtf off Eternia AFTER dude trained him up; that's like kicking the master out of your new dojo after they've taught you all their skills. Their relationship added lore...

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are not the only one with that issue

It was a shame that Horde Prime's mask makes him look like a giant carp. lmao.

@jesseperry9602

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's a feature, not a bug. I like the design, but to each their own.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Looking like a giant carp is tight.

@johnmorris1977

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 super easy, barely an inconvenience

@andrewgrant2990

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back about the giant carp!

@skullninjaraptor

3 жыл бұрын

Looks more like Galactus IMO

This is one of the best figure commentary episodes yet. Really interesting backstory and development process. Good work. Also, been meaning to compliment you on how you implement your mid-roll ads. It’s a clever little trick to place _just_ before/after the reveal of the next episode clue. Keeps it unobtrusive and reminds me of Saturday Morning Cartoons.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

We aimed to please

One of my VERY favorites. Never took him outta the package to keep the mystic about him. I bet his rise to power can be a series in and of itself...

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow. Yeah. I can almost picture the title sequence: *MASTERS* *The Rise Of Horde Prime*

@geechie-don7157

3 жыл бұрын

@@TitularHeroine yes! Would be a great way to work in some characters like wundar, vikor, etc. during different timelines of his rise. He obviously was never able to capture eternia, who stopped him 🤔

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he quickly became a favorite

This is the figure that got me into the franchise. I have a soft spot for Palpatine-esque characters and this design just oozes pure evil. I wish the She-Ra reboot had used this character model as the basis for their version.

Obviously accounting noticed something because his staff didn't come along until that year's weapons pak. But that's a-ok by me, this is one of the best (IMO) figures the line produced. 4 Horsemen + creative liberty = great figure. Every time, never fails.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I totally forgot to mention that!

Though 200X was the MOTU series I got to watch, I still bought the Horde villains as they looked really cool..but He-Man & his comrades got overwhelmed so I didnt mind hunting the Pop fugues during their Big Lots release, to tip the shelf balance.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Very intentional

I love the fact that we never got to see what Horde Prime really looked like. They would have to do a Geraldo Rivera reveal a la what’s in Al Capone’s vault if a reveal would ever take place.

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! And just like that episode -- nothin'. There was nothing in there.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

And you can keep his helmet on or not watch this video to keep the mystery

UK Insect head makes sense that the Horde is a large SWARM of an Empire. The Horsemen Logo head also makes sense too, as you said he is the leader of all the Horde.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I"m so glad we were able to include it

@ikolnedu4130

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 thank you so much for making it happen.

Very cool figure but with the helmet on he kind of looks like he’s wearing a giant fish head. I love learning about the Horde because I never watched She Ra as a kid. To me, any Hordak references on/in MOTU were very mysterious.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Having a giant fish head is tight.

He's very metal looking! Can't wait to receive mine!

To me, Horde Prime is a multidimensional being, all Hordaks in the multiverse are connected to him because Horde Prime is the true Hordak.

I always took the “two heads” thing as him having two dismembered heads in his possession

Oh, so that's where the insectoid Horde Prime head come from? I never read the UK comic, so I never knew anyone ever tried to create a Horde Prime head. I'm glad the 4Horsemen were directed to make Horde Prime look more like Hordak & created his head to resemble the Horde insignia. Too bad 200X ended, because I know Horde Prime would've been totally bad-ass, because that brief glimpse of Hordak was pretty bad-ass.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. There it be says I

Great video, can’t get enough of these.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

More to come! Tell your friends

While the Kirby influence is obvious with his helmet, I was just thinking that, since Conan and He-Man took nods from Lovecraft's Cthulhu horrors, on that same note Horde Prime's helmet could be a nod to Dagon worship with its fish semblance. Probably not even close to what anybody was going for but it definitely reminds me of that sort of pagan mitre regalia, and since He-Man already has that Lovecraft precedent, why not?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Oh their is some of that too for sure

Man, this is such a cool figure, I just scored one online the other day!

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

A figure worth scoring

I love the fact that no matter how evil Hordak is, he still has a boss, and then it is his older brother on top of it all. Bureaucracy and nepotism ran the Horde Empire. You could make a good reality show out of that dynamic.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I would so watch that

Great video!!

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Please by it myself!

This figure’s head completely passed me by at the time :( Alas! Really loving the Oderus Urungus vibe of this, and of course the Hordak figure (still a favourite of mine) Great vid, most interesting

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed many more to come

LOVE this figure! One of my favorites

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

One of my favorite figures in this line though I never got him as I wasn't collecting the line at the time for financial reasons. I love how you guys took inspiration from every little Kernal and I love the inclusion of the UK head, he's the perfect figure IMO. Now I just need to hunt one down.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

worth hunting down

What if Horde Prime has two heads because he is two separate entities. Same mind but two different bodies.

@geechie-don7157

3 жыл бұрын

Sky Lynx...

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Two heads because he is two separate entities is tight

I always pictured him as being all cyborg like, more like the super powers Brainiac, considering it was in the 80s too and all you saw was a mechanical arm and glowing eyes, just my opinion

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I do think he has more cyborg parts then the toy makes it look like

This was an awesome video & I really like the look of the character! Tho I have to be honest @ a quick glance the thumbnail reminds me of Rataro from Thundercats!

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Still one of my favs

I can't unsee the fish head in the thumbnail

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Fish head?

@Nediablo

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 sorry Scott! I should have clarified!! The red circles on the helmet look like eyes and the opening at the front, with the res line, looks like it's lips. Kind of like a carp face. Great figure, loving the Directors Commentary series! Can't wait to find it so I can add Horde Prime to my Origina collection ♥️👍👍

Fun video! Thank you! Didn't hit me until I rewatched the original She-Ra cartoons that this figure's helmet, face, & shoulder pads were what was faintly visible behind the glowing smoke whenever he was dressing down Hordak. Outsanding attention to detail! This was an excellent figure, and I was really looking forward to it. Besides the one that came with my sub, I bought an extra, day-of-sale, for tinkering with. Painted his eyes with red glow-in-the-dark / UV rave club paint, picked out his arm circuitry in silver, and gave him a red velvet cape (to go with his "Velvet Glove") for easier balance and posing. And then his staff arrived in a later Weapons Pak, and all was well. May try cobbling together a hand-held version of his crossbow at some point . . . .

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

Very nice. Hey, I just wanted to say, aside from gaming terrain, dioramas, and whatnot I had only gotten into figure customizing a little bit. Though I still don't have a lot of time, customing is gradually becoming more of my hobby. These vids and your stuff in particular (like the jawa hiss) have been inspiring. So thanks (and thanks for just coincidentally showing up here when I was thinking about it, I guess??😂)

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Crazy right! Now you can't unsee it

@Beedo_Sookcool

3 жыл бұрын

@@TitularHeroine Thank 'e very much indeed, mate! You've just made my day!

Hey Spector, that was another fantastic show. I like to have the Spector and king gray skull and hord prime. I do not have them yet. God bless big guy

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

More to collect!

Ah, Horde Prime. That was when I first could afford to subscribe properly! The only thing I wasn't super happy about with him is the lack of color on his normal face, though red and black is actually a really cool idea now that I've had time to think about it. Great figure!

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well that as all the 4HM and I think they knocked it out of the park

Is it me but these two Horde brothers faces reminds me of the face on Mars? You know the one discovered by NASA in 1976.

I think they should have painted Horde Prime's head the same color as Hordak's head.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

It was so the ears would work with the helmet

great figure, missing the staff, available weapons pack. great figure though

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I totally forgot to mention the staff and weapon pack thing

I loved the Horde.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Don't we all!

Great stuff, the UK Horde Prime is actually Horde Supreme, according to the previously unreleased bio. Before he was a sinister strategists so to speak, in his younger days he was the conquering evil cosmic warrior that evolved into what he is now. So the alt head + Mighty Spector body = a new character entirely: Horde Supreme (UK Comic Horde Prime). Of course this is post-release just as recent as May 2020.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah copyrights are annoying

@FANtomCore

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 You know what's funny for me, I actually didn't like Horde Prime when I first saw him, I was thinking what another Hordak figure? Then after learning his backstory and the alt head, I really started to appreciate the character and how he is not a copy of Hordak, but someone else with his own depth, also to be Hordak's boss surprised me. I didn't recall she-ra episodes back then so I didn't really know who he was other than a Hordak look-alike. To this day, my all time favorite mix-parts non-damaging custom is Horde Supreme (UK Horde Prime), the Shoulder Padded Cape is one of the most imposing pieces of gear a motuc figure can wear, King Grayskull having the equivalent.

I never knew that there was a She-Ra cartoon or toy line when I was a kid. I didn't know about New Adventures either, so the entirety of my MOTU knowledge came from the Masters cartoon, toys, and comics (mini and Marvel.) One of the things I love about the internet is finding out about all of the things I missed out back then.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well knowing is half the knowing

I really dug the classica horde prime design so much that i attempted to make a vintage styled figure of horde prime.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That is so cool!

The only MOTU toys I owned as a child were Battle Cat and He-Man. I was more into GI Joe, TMNT and Transformers. Ever since I started watching your director's commentaries, regret more and more that ignored all toy lights except Transforms at the turn of the century. Every time i see these videos, you make me wanna go out and splurge on MOTU figures. That said, @SpectorCreative, what would you say is the definitive Hordak figure and where's the best place to look for a Horde Prime figure. Is that something you can speak to? if so, i'd like to know so I can save up and hunt these guys down. Do you think Tuskador would be a go intro to the MOTU Classics line?

Surprised you did mention one of the attempts to keep the face secret, how the review samples had mighty spector's head under the mask

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

OMG, I forgot about that!

Hordak is secretly the king of hoarders and hoarding😄

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Clearly

Why did he have a bright red face, when Hordak has that ghostly white face?

Was there any talk of getting Prince Zed into the line? The prince of the Horde would been a welcome addition to the ranks. With him being a juvenile in the cartoon (short & not muscular), I know some creative license would’ve been needed to make him work in classics. But a Prince Zed of some form would’ve been great.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Can't honestly say he came up. We had so few slots and so many choices!

That was kind of hilarious how his mask was obscured by the MOTU Classics logo. I'm not sure how intentional that all was or even unavoidable, but that was a great way to really just lampshade the whole mystery of the character. Anything you'd have done differently now?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

With this figure? I think he hit it just right!

"It's a pair of ties. One for each head!"

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much!

Would you say that Horde Prime is then more powerful than Skeletor, Hordak and King Hiss? Say if they would engage in a battle, Horde Prime would emerge victorious?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends on who has the cosmic cube

First in line Scott, Question just got my hands on the final Weapons Pak, My Question. Why did you guys choose to do He Mans basic gears in green? More variety? for Slime Pit He-Man? Cheers keep up your great work..

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

It seemed like a good idea at the time

@danian5299

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 Gonna need some serious justification when we get to this one! Youve got time to make up something.

Just to keep things clear - Horde Prime is the most evilest guy in He-Man lore... after Gorpo, who happens to be the head honcho. Or are there others?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well Gorpo is more of an evil god, Horde Prime is an evil dictator

🤘😜🤘

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

thumbs up all the way

It was actually For Want of a Horse that reveals the two heads of Prime lol. Thus the reason Grizzlor gets the trap door for suggesting two ties.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Great scene

Must have been something when Horde Prime showed up body and all in 2018 She-Ra

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

The less spoken about the series...

Claw thats funny liked inspector gadget thought he had 2 heads like two bad?. ideal would be giant sized griminir I think of him more technical to as horde are technical tech magic etc

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I do too

@benflay6038

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 you called it techno virus like a curse

You forgot to mention you had to cut the staff and included it in a weapons pack later

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Point taken!

@oldschooltommyim

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 I don’t mean to be pointed just something I noticed I love your MOTU and Star Wars videos Thanks for making them

Oh man, had I known at the time that Classics had the easily swappable parts I would have been all over that. The insectoid version is *so* Annihilus, early Marvel Kirbyesque.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

It very much is

I personally wish he would have been made a giant like Tytus and Megator. Still an awesome figure anyway.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That would have been an interesting way to do it!

I never cared much for the concept of Horde Prime. I always thought that Hordak should be the ultimate master of the Horde. Of course being from Germany I'm very much used to the characterizations in the audio plays. They're still in many ways the definitive version of MotU in my head canon. I did like the cartoon as a kid too. However, I find it totally unbearable today while the audio plays are still very good. Especially the earlier ones. If you've got anything on those audio plays an episode on them would be really cool. After all, you did Anti He-Man.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I do like Hordak being in charge but since he was created for the POP series we wanted to get to him in Classics

5:28 Very clever

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I do try

22.K 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Woo hoo! I think we lost like 60 subscribers too on Friday. But made them up

I remember when y’all sent pixel Dan his copy with no head

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That was awesome

Imagine this figure is as size as Tytus 12" OMG!

@spectorcreative1872

2 жыл бұрын

And the cost!

@harounalkanderi5128

2 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 let me keep dreaming lol,,, you are so True

I really don't like Horde Prime as a character in the lore, it cheapens Hordak. And then by degrees Skeletor. However, 2 or 3 years ago I came across HP on Amazon and just had to have him. I quick bought several MOTU classics figures. Mostly ones that the 2000 line didn't get to. Recently, I've gone back and purchased several more. Weird, but the mystery of HP was a big part of that.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well I can’t take any credit or non credit for that. That is all filmation

So is this going to be the canon look for HP? I always thought HP was a giant robot.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well for Classics it is

@sirlorddoctormajorphd3016

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 as I understand the licensing rights thinggy is quite fragmented. So the HP design in this video is canon for Mattel but the giant robot hand we saw in the Christmas special is canon for Filmation version. Am I on the right trail?

7:35 Rip over the package? You mean delicately remove him from the packaging without damaging it, right?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I think...

@AlucardNoir

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 What do you mean you think? Are you a collector or not?

2:10 Looks like that kid inherited mama's looks... Who IS mama, anyhow?

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That is a story for another time

I never liked Horde Prime. He turned Hordak from awesome conqueror to middle management. The figure was well done though.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

That is a very common opinion

UK horde prime is my version

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

A good version to like!

Puzzling how the kid looks so basic and Caucasian after having Horde Prime for a father and Hordak for an uncle. He must be the Marilyn Munster of family...

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well of course

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@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

yes

Bonus to using Spector for the Horde Prime body? Getting the satisfaction of decapitating him. (j/k)

:36 Trek fan here....not big on SW.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well see here:kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2Slk7asXbKTZqg.html

I never liked the idea of Horde Prime... Always thought Hordak should have been nr 1. I prefer like t was in the comics where he is just another big evil.

@spectorcreative1872

2 жыл бұрын

And hey, free to ignore if you want!

@easygrin1127

2 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 i like to imagine Hordak as in the 2002 show. He would never syand for being nr 2

So you’re telling me that toy companies can’t understand basic marketing? All good “widget” selling companies know they need a product for every member of the family, even if one of those products isn’t a big seller and sometimes even if that product is a money loser. As the father of 3 different 4 year olds throughout 3 different decades, I would have definitely taken them shopping for preschool toys more often if there had also been something there for me to buy. Hasbro would do nothing but INCREASE their bottom line by keeping the action figure aisle fully stocked like they do the preschool aisle. Also, they’d get rid of all the “hasbro hate” just by keeping the pegs full. It’s baffling that you would support them not taking a marketing action that has been tried and is true in other “widget” markets.

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Alas, keeping the pegs full isn't always worth the effort due to the minimal bump in revenue.

@aaronburrell3729

3 жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 so then toy companies know nothing about basic marketing? You are seriously just ignoring my point altogether.

@TitularHeroine

3 жыл бұрын

@serick73 If I may? It seems like a lot of the affection stems from him doing his best to hand us the info straight up, with a positive attitude, with no snark or nastiness with reviews, opinions, those sorts of things. Glossing over some questions, it looks like he's sifting through lots of information every day -- and it is a lot. And, I could be wrong of course. That is entirely possible. But the positivity goes a long way. Let's face it: we (yeah, I said "we", as in me too) are grown-ass adults who have been bitter and resentful about..... .....toys. Uh, OK. The enthusiasm and friendliness is refreshing. Just my take on it.

@aaronburrell3729

3 жыл бұрын

@serick73 he claims to “respond to every KZread comment” but it’s just a canned response. He has no intention of engaging any question you may have. Uses us to gain KZread revenue. So yeah, a bit of a con artist. I was smitten at first but now just feel annoyed and used.

@aaronburrell3729

3 жыл бұрын

@@TitularHeroine it’s frustrating to present a legitimate point and have Scott completely dismiss it. I’m in marketing too and you don’t have to sell toys to know how markets work. I’m guessing he is either working for or wishes to work for Hasbro. It’s the only thing that makes sense, otherwise he’d acknowledge their shady business practices.

Yeah it’s not great 🤷‍♂️

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

Well...

Since you know so muchhht about toy companys, why dont you get yourself a job and stop soy much haitreree? (Odio) You and pixel dan are the problem motu Origins arent to do properly in spain

@spectorcreative1872

3 жыл бұрын

I actually thought my videos are pretty positive. I love all toys, just try to add info for people who may not know how the industry works.