Secret Tech: Underplayed and Undervalued Cards in Commander
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I only watch this for the whispering of "secret tech." Also perplexing chimera is indeed super secret tech. I have a Roon deck that is my absolute favorite, and it's insane! It will take over the game for at least a few turns.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Roon and Aminotu love this card
@loganvain3
2 жыл бұрын
I have perplexing chimera in my roon deck as well and I found it off of EDHREC so I was surpised that it had such a low percentage. I do love controling the game with it though
@joshuacampbell1485
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds it can be tough to play in Aminatou. You need her to be out to be good, can't do it at instead speed which is what makes it crazy in roon, and even with all that if your aminatou dies (very likely) and you've passed it they can steal it when you cast
How did I not know about hallowed spiritkeeper!? That needs to be in my Tayam deck for sure! Thanks Nerds!
@GabetheFrog_
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr! I’m going to buy all the white cards, so good
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
It was on out top 100 White cards of allllll time
@IncrediPaulAZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I guess that's what I get for missing one of your videos! Well, I just ordered it through your tcgplayer affiliate link 😁
@Dayyyjoey26
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely putting in my Aristocrats deck. Doubling up on this trigger and getting even more bodies to sacrifice sounds nice
This is legitimately why I watch edh videos. To find tech that otherwise gets no attention. Luke leatherback Baloth is basically steal leaf champion but it's never mentioned
This is my favorite series you guys do
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Seatb3lt
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds btw guys if you start the puzzle rental business you can weigh the puzzle on checkout/checkin for discrepancies
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seatb3lt what if they put a piece of paper in the box lol 😂
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seatb3lt what if they put a piece of paper in the box lol 😂
@Seatb3lt
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds haha yeah, or moisten the pieces. It's not a perfect system but it's a start. I've seen some public libraries rent out puzzles.
I've been inventorying all of my cards, and literally just entered the Perplexing Chimera I have. And as I was looking at it, I thought "Huh, this card seems like it could be kind of bonkers in the right deck." Glad the Nerds were on the same wavelength!
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
We have like the card for a while now
Generous patrons isn't just 1/1 counters either. You can put her in something like Hapatra or Chevil and go crazy
@cryogencrypts7484
2 жыл бұрын
The new Toxrill creature. If you have a B/U/G, i like the sound of "Draw 10 cards at each end step" Then you pair it with Lab Man
Was recently thinking about the old secret tech videos. Glad it’s back
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
*whispers* Secret tech
Hallowed Spiritkeeper came out before I really got into Magic. I am getting one right now and putting it in my Awaken the Blood Avatar deck. So much sacrifice fodder. Hehehehe!
@ryanweston6182
2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on the same deck. What is your list or suggestions? I'm torn on exactly what I should do with him. Focus entirely on token generation or to also add aristocrat type stuff as well.
@Snaglbeest
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanweston6182 I go mostly for tokens, because your commander is a sacrifice outlet that is also an edict for all of your opponents. But you definitely want to have options of you're already flush with avatars or you've made it a bit too expensive. A bunch of the afterlife creatures are good for allowing you to keep casting.
I’d really like to see more videos like this to see your takes on hidden gems that not many players know about.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
We have actually done SEVEN of these videos in the past, you should definitely check them out!!!
My secret tech was to play replenish in all decks that have more than 10 enchantments/fill up the graveyard consistently... that is until it ended up being a 100+ card. If not, then dance of the manse in edh is pretty good.
You can spray glue a puzzle and then put it up as wall art!
skipped past the ads, but then thought nah they deserve it for non stop daily content so I went back and watched them!
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😂😂😂
Thank you, you showed me daring fiendbonder. im excited to put it in my skullbriar deck
Finally perplexing chimera in one of your videos, my new fav deck sakashima/thrasios is based around cloning the chimera a bunch of times with homeward path and seedborn muse/awakening in play. I literally just snatch everything until I can with with biovisionary clones
Thanks to your dragon shield's link, I discovered the art sleeves they have 💜✨ And Perplexing Chimera looks sweet!
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
The sleeves are so awesome!
Fun and informative! Thanks for all your hard work, so I don’t have to. 😏 (BTW, I also ordered from your TCG link, since I was going to order anyway. 😂)
Love that flavor text on Viridian Revel. What would Vorinclex even sound like? Also, my toddler loves doing puzzles with his grandparents.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Confirmed Beezy is a toddler!
Viridian Revel is a great counter to the notorious Emry deck in my playgroup. Finally, I will draw tons of cards just like the blue artifacts player! Great tip!
You just enlightened me to dragon shield custom sleeves THANK YOU
Just now watching this- I’m running perplexing chimera in a deck and bought homeward passage for the deck against your (accurate) advice against it haha. I was think huh, this will make that awful land do some serious work! Also the deck is Inniaz w a janky exchange theme for more context
Never commented on your channel before today. Loved the puzzle renting idea. It’s absurd and not really anything more the a niche but I love the thought process you had after that. Brilliant! Let’s make Bezos bucks together
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
You and Beezy can go in business together on that one lol 😂
Thanks guys! Hallowed spiritkeeper will do well in my athreos, shroud-veiled deck
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Hells yes
I dont know if it was mentioned but retraced image is some of the best Blue ramp there is as you can say Island or any land and get one extra in play untaped.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of that card as it is a 2 for 1
Great video as usual, I love these and the budget bombs, you always recommend cool and interesting cards! Do you think the Spiritkeeper can be good in the new Spirit precon? BTW I can't wait for the upgrade precon video!
Daring Fiendbonder's effect + Liesa, Shroud of Dusk. I just love it.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sexy
@pauljimerson8218
2 жыл бұрын
Does Liesa keep the counter forever?
Wow! I was just thinking about putting together a Dargo (Boros or Rakdos) deck because of all the new blood 🩸 (and of course treasure tokens). I found Kuldotha Rebirth this morning and took a screenshot so I’d remember if I build that deck. Then I watched this video! SOLD!
Sadistic hypnotist is a straight up win con in Nath of the gilt leaf. Sac an elf, get two elves.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
That's an insane synergy!
Perplexing chimera for Volo sounds fun.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no….
When are y’all going to review the new set crimson vow? Been eager to hear your guys opinions.
Generous patron works great with “Nils, Discipline Enforcer”. I’m thinking about adding them both to my +1+1 counters deck.
Haze of rage is underrated it appears in 1472 decks on edhrec despite being a strong enabler for spell slinger strategies only 1r with a buyback of 2. It doesn't matter what the effect, but it gives +1/+0 for tokens. Because it has storm and buyback, it can just go infinite with storm-kiln artist with a storm ount of 3 or 1 if your commander is veyran. Also, this card is super accessible as a $0.25 uncommon. It a should be way higher less than 1% of decks and probably goes into most decks that have storm-kiln artist or archmage emeritus.
Being reminded of Viridian Revel has finally convinced me to make Shattergang Bros Enchantress Control
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
That is a spicy meatball
Generous Patron in a Hapatra deck often draws around 4-5 cards the first turn it enters play. Half the cards in those decks put tokens on opponents creatures.
@hybridyd1305
2 жыл бұрын
I used to play it in Hapatra and I can vouch for the synergy of that card. I would 10/10 recommend.
I gift my once done puzzles to people that also like puzzles. Once you complete one, you break it down back into the box/bag and then tape the box.
Good show ! thanks guys
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
Hallowed Spiritkeeper is pretty great in my Quintorius deck, but it was surprisingly not budget friendly (it was, like, $8 when I looked last). Also, Sadistic Hypnotist is in my Slimefoot deck as a pretty great sac outlet.
Daring Fiendbonder, Slippery Bogbonder and Avenging Huntbonder all came in the Commander 2020 precons- more specifically, Symbiotic Swarm (Or Kathril Keywords as I call it)
FUN FACT: You used to be able to check out puzzles from your local library. This has fallen by the wayside since the introduction of television, but at the beginning of the 20th century it was a very popular form of family entertainment to rent or borrow a puzzle for a weekend. A lot of libraries still let you do that so check out your local library! As for Cherry's question about missing puzzle pieces: I dunno man what about people who don't return library books or rewind tapes (back in the day)? Ya fine them and use the fine to buy a replacement. Simples.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
That's actually pretty cool!
@dangerrayy
2 жыл бұрын
Simples lol. The librarians just need to make every puzzle on return
I was kind of hoping to see Keep Watch on this list, but here we are
Love saddlebrute in marisi, breaker of the coil. If they’re not smart about it, that’s just a faster clock
Hard Evidence is a bomb in Adrix and Nev. If you get it early you get a blocker and something to do on turn 2. If you get it after Adrix and Nev, you get 2 blockers and 2 clues.
Fiendbonder is definitely way underrated. I love putting the counter on stinkweed imp. It buys so much time for my other nonsense.
Sadistic hypnotist in Nath is just *chef's kiss*
Cards from this video i use: Hallowed Spiritkeeper: Teysa Karlov Perplexing Chimera: roon of the Hidden Realm Might need to find room for more
Viridian Revel seems pretty cool for a Freyalise deck, since she can blow up artifacts regularly
Secret tech!!! Amazing! Old as disclaimer guy (RIP), smoke around the world until he got lost.
i have daring fiendbonder in my greven deck and it’s so good
I'm glad you guys included Viridian Revel lol I bought 5 of these a couple weeks ago and then commented on every magic channel I can to get CEDH people to buy it and have it spike in price lmao
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Lol the grind is real
Daring Fiendbonder seems perfect for the Syr Konrad deck I'm brewing
Congregate from Urza Saga #Memories, Serra's plane is probably my favorite plane. Yawgmoth brings the night Urza the light, Angels cry Bitter twilight comes Slippery Bogbonder, 4717, 2% of 302,208 decks. Flash Hexproof protection and as an added bonus in the text move any counters from among creatures you control to this creature on a 4cmc ''Hill Giant''. This card can help win games and protect your commander.
What do you think about Viridian Revel in Jolreal?
I didn’t get to wat h through the whole video since I’m on a time crunch right now so I’ll leave this comment and a like to make up for it! Thx for the content!
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you!
Gonna watch at 2x so I can be the first after ACTUALLY watching. You'll see. You'll all see...
@christopherlawrence4191
2 жыл бұрын
I extracted the video and set it to 16x. Already done.
@quayo90
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone should listen to the dragon shield ad at a faster speed 😂
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
You are living in the year 2121 over here
@andrewwhite2123
2 жыл бұрын
I never think about doing that but I can’t stop laughing when I do boy howdy
@TheBiggsMr
2 жыл бұрын
You all all see.
On the same page which makes Viridian Revel playable I say this chunky boy: Fangren Marauder, is almost there
I totally missed Daring Fiendbonder for my Sidisi self mill deck
Is it possible to add these to a decklist on tcgplayer and link it here so we can just add them all to cart?
Kuldotha rebirth would be insane with Korvold
Sadistic Hypnotist, can also target you... Which in black probably isn't the worst thing if you really need something in the grave. Also I think some of the reason these cards don't get played is there salt/online play annoyance. For example Chimera is a bit misserable to play in an online format because you have exchange of cards and its also kinda of a stacks peice. I only run it in my stacks deck and thats also because it synergizes with enchantment tribal.
@The_Grimsun
2 жыл бұрын
o and 3d printers are the answer to your trouble with puzzles :P. Thought of course youd have to have that puzzel like scanned in before you lose the peice so idk how practical that is, I guess puzzle makers already kinda have that print out before they cut the puzzels.. but I don't know if theyd want to share that.
Hallowed Spiritkeeper is a powerhouse in my Nethroi tokens deck.
Kuldotha Rebirth is a powerhouse in Zada, as well.
Fuck I hate and love you guys. I've been playing commander for 5 years so I'm confident in my card analyzing skills. Happy to see some of our opinions align, so I'm glad I'm doing something alright. But you show these wierd cards that I dismissed immediately, thinking they're just trade fodder or just sad bulk. But y'all are really apparent and makes me ponder on others I have dismissed. Good job guys, keep on making this content
Sadistic Hypnotist is borderline a wincon in Nath of the Gilt Leaf
Daring Fiendbonder went into my Skullbriar the second it was printed
Benevolent Offering and Hallowed Spirit keeper in the new spirit tribal with Millicent 🤔
Y'know, Generous Patron seems really, really nice in Hapatra decks, as its draw trigger is tied to you putting counters on things that aren't yours. So yes, I'll gladly cast a Black Sun's Zenith and draw half my deck, thank you very much
Beezy mentioned Grave Titan in a secret tech video :o
Viridian reveal 17:35, so when a clue is used does it temporarily go into the graveyard and is gone because it's a token?
@dapperghastmeowregard
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when tokens are put into the graveyard they go there, then immediately cease to exist before anybody receives priority.
Got a perplexing chimera in my zur astral slide cycling deck
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
That’s spicy 🌶
How is perplexing chimera not a stax piece? Is it specifically designed to make your opponents not want to play their best spells? What do you call that if not stax?
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
It depends on how we design stax but I see what you mean.
Sadistic Hypnotist + Nath of the Gilt Leaf = a romance for the ages 🖤🖤🖤
Hard evidence is a non-creature spell, a creature, an artifact, a body to chump, sacrifice, or prevent a good amount of damage early, two tokens and a delayed draw. It’s very good for one mana.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
Whats that sponsor again? The one with the shields? Dragon Sleeves?
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo
Please check out the wording of "Ghostly Flame" It makes damage sources colorless without changing the cards color
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
What about it?
@Hanmacx
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds the wording is funky Especially how it works against "protection from color"
What do you think of reckless spite
Hard Evidence in Brudiclad equals 2 extra Hellriders or 2 extra Karnstructs for 1 mana lol so good
People hate Perplexing Chimera. That's why it isn't in more decks. Its a hugely salty card. 🧂
@Crazy0101
2 жыл бұрын
This. I have a pretty good Roon deck but I'm not gonna play Perplexing Chimera, I still want friends after the game !
If you like Daring Fiendbonder, you'll love Carrionette. This card is highly slept on.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
I saw Jake and Joel mention that one recently actually
Hard evidence is an op card in my permanentless Apex of wishes. Replaces itself and gives me a mutate target
Darksteel Plate is 2 to equip. Very good card
Hallowed Spirit keeper in a deck alongside purphoros
I dont think sadistic hypnotist is under played, I think most people realize how oppressive it can be and just dont play it in a non competitive setting.
Okay, so expensive thought for the puzzle pieces... Each piece has an NFC chip inside, each piece has it's own code (from 1-500 or however many pieces there are). When the rental puzzle comes back, they can just put the box on a detector (or whatever the correct name is) and it can read all the NFC data and check that everything is there. It would be able to see what piece(s) are missing, i.e. piece #367 is missing; then the company can just get the piece that is missing from a spares box or something, add it back in and have a small charge to the customer who lost the piece. I'll wait for my cheque in the post....
Hallowed spiritkeeper is useful... it rocks.
Perplexing Chimera loves an overloaded Cyclonic Rift.
Perplexing chinera is a miserable card to play with, and against. I used to run it in an aminatou deck which is probably the best shell for it. Love all the rest of the suggestions tho for sure. Frenzied saddlebrute is so good
I’m sorry to say this, but I checked and unfortunately there are no wet sleeves. Nice to see secret tech back.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Damn it
Hallowed Spiritkeeper is BAE in vintage cube!!!
Sadistic Hypnotist is absolutely amazing but it also makes my friends very very angry 😅
Actually I own most of the cards and in most scenarios I think they are not worth it due to cmc, effect, synergy, etc. I can only see most of these cards in janky commander decks. Ex. Sadistic hypnotist is an excellent card however it's 5 cmc and usually is the perfect target for a counter or removal, I only run it on a Tergrid deck and would rarely use it in aristocrats since there are much better effects that actually win the game. Perhaps it's just me but I wasn't convinced to put any of the cards in my decks, any feedback would be appreciated.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Your mind not being change is completely fine. 😊
@HidiGart
2 жыл бұрын
Run it in Alesha. She can recur Sadistic Hypnotist and fully lock down the table. Disgusting, I don't even dare to do that to my playgroup!
We need the secret tech budget bomb crossover episode
@baloo7869
2 жыл бұрын
Idk if my mind could handle all that value lol
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
Secret Tech and Budget Bombs don’t get along on set
I just started magic a month ago, and all the people I play with at the local shop literally destroys me and then they get frustrated cause I don’t what my cards or their cards do. I want to get into the game but I have no idea what cards to buy or how to build a deck. The only person that helps me is the lady behind the counter who told me buy a Precon I like and tune it up. Yet, I feel like she just wants me to spend money at her shop
ah yes Frenzied Saddlebrute aka budget Urabrask the red preator i love that guy
Perplexing chimera is a stax piece
I agree with the saddlebrute cause your opponents cant activate abilites
Yo! My LGS rents puzzles 😎 its like $6 per week, $10 for 2 weeks.
Pretty funny that the first two cards are just being reprinted in the Spirit commander precon.
Sadistic hypnotist is sorcery speed Sac Outlet that's why it's use Isn't So High
What about shamble back? Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token. You gain 2 life. I mean you need a target in a graveyard, but it only costs 1 black mana.
@louisjordan3162
2 жыл бұрын
Love a good shamble back.
Evolution Sage is exactly the kind of thing I need in my Superfriends deck.
@NitpickingNerds
2 жыл бұрын
It is very strong!
@Zer0LifeNegi
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Thanks to these videos I’m a few hundred dollars more poor and now waiting patiently to improve decks I rarely play, because it’s hard to find games in Japan when your cards are all English and your Japanese is on par with a kindergartener.
@Zer0LifeNegi
2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Do you take user submissions for deck lists / ideas? I’ve got some wonky ones that always make for interesting games.
sadistic hypnotist is bonkers in my meren deck