SECRET INVASION Episode 5 BREAKDOWN - Every Easter Egg and "Harvest" Twist EXPLAINED
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Secret Invasion Episode 5 sets the final stage for the series, and reveals exactly WHY Fury hasn;t called the superheroes yet--because he's done them dirty with project Harvest, following Avengers: Endgame. This repositions Fury's position in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and lays the groundwork for some shifting alliances in the MCU, that will have repercussions all the way into Avengers: The Kang Dysnasty.
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We have so much to talk about from this episode, breaking down the harvest, all the easter eggs-and who Fury was talking to at the end.
Doug: Who was it?
We don’t for sure, but I’ve got a theory I’m excited to share a little later in the video. So let’s get started.
Now I know I’ve been really hard on this show in our talkbacks, but I don't think the show is bad-just that it could have been so much more. Episode 5 gave us the very best and worst of this series. But man, when the Thai show soars. It soars. Fury’s monologue at the end was top-tier cinematic content. Sonya Falsworth always lights up the screen. I’m going to talk more about them, and what I think isn't working as we go along.
Now the name of the episode is “Harvest,” in qi=uaotation marks, which has a few meanings. Placing the title in quotes kind of denotes that Harvest is a code name, which we learn is true-Harvest is the name Fury gave to the superhero blood they collected after the Avengers defeated thanos.
Doug: What? That’s cold.
Yes, yes it is. But Harvest has a few other meanings. In the first episode, we saw that the skrulls were planting crops in New Skrullos. And as we talked about in the outer episode 1 breakdown video, planting crops is a way of colonizing land,m calling it your own, literally putting down roots. But Gravik isn't just sowing crops, he was planting seeds within his people. With each recruit, he gains another person who is loyal to his cause-another soldier in his war.
Gravik is planning on reaping this harvest-using his soldiers in the war against earth and Fury. And, as we see in this episode, he would sacrifice all of his people to get what he wants-more power. So when his people stage a coup against him, it’s like he’s reaping what he sewed. He tried these people to commit violence, and they returned violence upon him.
You can also say that the entire earth is his harvest-a planet where he has been planting spies, that he’s now ready to call into action by - [interrupt]
Back to the secret invasion.
Doug: Hey how come your hair was longer a second ago?
IN some shots, my hair is longer.
Doug: Okay then.
Last week was a massive shakeup for the show, ending us on a cliffhanger. Talos died saving the president’s life-Ritson was injured, Rhodey a skrull, and Gravik has the powers for extremis and [i am groooot].
Now I’m not going to spend the entire video being critical of this show-but I do want to talk about how this opening scene illustrates the problem with this show. I keep saying that a secret invasion should feel big, when it feels small. And that’s not because it doens't have a cast of superheroes or copy the comic books' globe-spanning plot.
The show feels small because in places, the flat TV lighting makes it feel cheap. There are sequences that seem like they were filmed with a bare bones budget-like this opening. Think about this. The president of the United States was just shot. Some of the agents and soldiers in the motorcade are still alive. Rhodey is still alive.
Now if the president was shot, even on foreign soil, do you think the next scene would look like this-one man wheeling him into a brightly lit hospital? Compare this to the production value of a show like ER [clip]. Or in the movie JFK, when they dramatized the president arriving at the hospital [clip].
There are a hundred ways to shoot this to make it feel vibrant, dark, kinetic, and instead it's done fast and cheap. And we see that all through the show. INstead of creating dark corners and shadows, there's even light or fog that makes everything feel flat, not cinematic.
Anyways, enough nitpicking. The silver lining of this attack is that the press ses a shape shifting alien saving the president. So the public now knows that skrulls exist-just not how many of them are on earth, in a way Talos fulfilled his goal, to talk to the president and show him they were not a threat.
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@birdiebird5679
11 ай бұрын
Nick gonna use the cloaking device to impersonate the emperor to get the upper hand
@NunyaBizness2023
11 ай бұрын
I hate these short ass episodes!
@usuckthereturn
11 ай бұрын
Yes, it better satisfy you or else….haha
@BthIX
11 ай бұрын
You dont understand Gravik's plan. He's not in it for power, he wants to wipe out humans so Earth can belong to the Skrulls. His pursuit of the Harvest isnt about having powers for himself, it's about being able to fight the Avengers who would get in the way of the Skrulls taking over Earth. Groot and Extremis powers aren't enough to stop Thor, Dr Strange or Captain Marvel.
@KingTeddy1
11 ай бұрын
The Skrulls being on Earth has NO comparison to African Americans being brought to America...... Blacks were STOLEN and brought to this foreign land. Terrible analogy ✌🏿✊🏿
Fury's "Harvest" is probably the reason Fury didn't want to bring the Avengers in, they might discover he collected their DNA which is a HUGE slap in the face to their trust in him... similar to Batman keeping a catalog of ways to defeat JLA.
@delmarfrazier2727
11 ай бұрын
Yep 👍🏽
@candycane-mb3nj
11 ай бұрын
But on the same note if there is people who can use the dna to do whatever they want Isn't it better to be contained than be in the open, even excluding skulls ross tried to replicate Hulk in turn making abomination
@delmarfrazier2727
11 ай бұрын
@@candycane-mb3nj ?
@andrewward5891
11 ай бұрын
I agree. I think Fury soured on super heroes when the avengers failed to stop the Thanos snap. That’s why he gathered their DNA so he could create heroes he had more control over. But the super heroes would be pissed if they found out about Fury’s harvest. So that’s the real reason he can’t ask for their help.
@withalittlehelpfrom3
11 ай бұрын
Well that, AND it’s like bringing nukes into a war where the enemy already wants nukes: You may give them extra ammo whether you want to or not.
Olivia Colman is really the standout of this whole show for me. Hope to see more of her down the line.
@jasonarritola564
11 ай бұрын
I’d like to see her lead the “British Avengers”: Captain Britain (Henry Cavill?), Black Knight, Union Jack and bring back Psylocke since X-men are back.
@matnels277
11 ай бұрын
@TheRepublican21but yet entertaining.
@ryhanon7
11 ай бұрын
@TheRepublican21 What plot? I don't disagree - that's why I used the actresses name, not the character name. She's fun to watch and is really the only entertaining thing on this show. The rest of it is a boring slog full of "plot points" that make precisely zero sense. This is a pretty poorly written show all around but Olivia Colman is at least a bit fun.
@Iwillone
11 ай бұрын
Her character reminds me of Valentina played kinda in the same way by Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
@RealisticHum4n
11 ай бұрын
nice pfp 😎
Sonya is my new favorite character in the whole MCU, I hope we get to see her in bigger projects and just being the new Nick Fury but British and with both eyes. I love how she's just absolutely ruthless and causally shoots people knowing it all works out in her favor.
@simonpowell9975
11 ай бұрын
*favour :-)
@Arkham_Scarecrow
11 ай бұрын
@@simonpowell9975you're just british
@yejubrando272
11 ай бұрын
True, she's so badass
@TacoJack
11 ай бұрын
Olivia Colman absolutely killed it, pun intended.
@fonzarelly3154
11 ай бұрын
You have to love her, no question s about it.
Yeah this finale better be at lease an hour long. Too many loose ends to tie up for the last episode. The acting from all the cast is great!
@Gzilla313
11 ай бұрын
What's left to tie up? Fury, Falsworth, Priscilla, and Giah will meet up at New Skrullos to stop Gravik. Giah gets put in place as the new head of the Skrulls. Skroddie kills POTUS to cover their tracks.
@LeonardoMenezes03
11 ай бұрын
I've seen this phrase before, in literally all the Disney+ Marvel shows. The truth is, the finale will be the shortest.
@Jaksi-a
11 ай бұрын
Why is it that you expect them to tie up and cover every loose end? Ofcourse they won't do that. It'll tie in and some things will either not be explained or may be explained in an upcoming project.
@albertjiminez1144
11 ай бұрын
I thought so to, but I also think they are going to lead into The Marvels since they released a picture of Carol Danvers with Skrulls in the background.
@tjbullis1491
11 ай бұрын
It will not be lol.
There's definitely a setup when Fury hints the new version of Widow's Veil works for the whole body, no just the face.
@roberts_archive
11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I’ve watched 2 breakdowns today no real mention of it and I feel that could lead to big things in the future which may have already happened and could payoff
@kipboone8095
11 ай бұрын
Probably how they'll bring back Maria Hill.
@_TheViewer_
11 ай бұрын
Probably more likely to see in thunderbolts, like Yelena using it. It’s an obvious sentence in the scene and won’t bring back Maria.
@Gman671
11 ай бұрын
Thought the same thing, but think it's Monica Rambeau that will be "Fury". He talks to someone on the phone at the end of the episode, and prior trailers show Fury being hit/slammed by Gravik (in super Skrull Cull Obsidian form). Normal Fury would be dead but Monica can then take him on.
@barbaraschaumburg5949
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, I didn’t catch that .
Am I the only one who thinks that everytime Jackson and Cheadle have scene together it’s magic?! Together they make the scene so real and sincere. It feels as though they hate each other but at the same time the respect is felt. Both of them will hopefully stay long term.
Oliva Coleman is brilliant in this. I hope she's part of the MCU going forward
@yancylake2019
11 ай бұрын
If they ever think of doing Captain Britain, she could show up somehow
@slack__
11 ай бұрын
@@yancylake2019 henry cavill has said many times that he wants to play captain britain. could well be in the making
@plkrtn
11 ай бұрын
You don't cast her without securing her for more. I think she's ultimately going to be the opposite of de Fontaine. Falsworth is the surname of Union Jack in the comics and one of the Howling Commandos in Cap 1. They're going to work that connection, surely.
@thestarseeker8196
11 ай бұрын
Coleman and Cavill on an MCU MI13 means I’d lose my shit
@rhythmicwindu4262
11 ай бұрын
"the males of my species are similar. If they're not busy gaslighting you, they're threatening you with murder. It's what all the podcasts are about!" No, men don't threaten women with murder on podcasts. Can they please stop giving good actors such shitty dialogue that needlessly attacks their main viewer demographic and just make a halfway-decent MCU show for once?
I really thought Fury's house was gonna be a little more, defensive. Like bullet proof glass, lock out shutters, etc.
@Majere613
11 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the glass was at least a little armoured, so it deflected the first bullet. Otherwise that was some pretty terrible shooting, even for Alien Goons.
@Jcs1aughter
11 ай бұрын
@@Majere613 I took that as the first shot missing cliche.
@mrbkkt1
11 ай бұрын
@@Majere613 Yeah, I expected the first shot to be "caught" by the glass. and then that would be the cue to start moving.
@mon_nobi
11 ай бұрын
@@mrbkkt1 a better writer would've done that, but this show is just reeeally lazy.
@greycegordon1597
11 ай бұрын
just because something doesn't meet your expectation mean it's bad, grow up kids
idk why but sonia is such a great character in all terms, i actual want a season just of here..
@adityadeshwal8284
11 ай бұрын
I totally agree
It would be cool If Maria is still alive. It could show Fury was indeed a step ahead of Gravik after all.
@jahimuddin2306
11 ай бұрын
It would not surprise me. Nick Fury faked his death in The Winter Soldier, so it would he a nice callback.
@ghiggs8389
11 ай бұрын
"Even his secrets have secrets"
@godfoca
11 ай бұрын
Every episode credits her at the end, not just the one she appeared on, so yeah, my money is on her returning at the end.
@PrinceOrion
11 ай бұрын
Came here just to comment this
@CATDRL2
11 ай бұрын
She'll probably appear commanding Nick's last Heli-Carrier and defeat Gravic with it. Nick will retire and Hill will go on protecting the earth. Onto the next series/movie.
I would quite happily watch an entire series of just Olivia Colman olivia colmanning for 42 minutes. Genuine national treasure!
@mattj1192
11 ай бұрын
The Nigel bit was just fantastic
I think my favorite moment was when fury got his eye patch, and cloak back ,and I'd be so hype if he was talking to coulson at the end.
@wulfrache
11 ай бұрын
That was beyond stupid. Especially since every tomb had like 1 item in it when it all could of fit inside the 1st one.
@thomasleonardis711
11 ай бұрын
He is talking to Coulson, Daisy Johnson & Maria Hill. They all coming back. Agents of Shield never Die, they simply go off the grid to regroup.
@garibaldilebeau
11 ай бұрын
@@thomasleonardis711And the Cavalry, Melinda May, obviously
@JonReynoldsESQ
11 ай бұрын
If they have any character from Agents of Shield I will get a Disney+ account just to see that scene.
@cnssegura
11 ай бұрын
@@wulfrache That's not stupid. It would be more stupid to leave everything in one spot when if found they can easily take it all. If it's spread out, then anyone who tries to get in there won't take it all. Different country, different rules. US logic doesn't work too well in other countries.
This is probably my favorite episode so far ,Iove how violent they are getting, and I actually think this episode has the best shot of the series yet. So excited for the finale.
@konstantinosp-a6447
11 ай бұрын
I hope that finale is more than one hour runtime 🤞
@tjbullis1491
11 ай бұрын
@@konstantinosp-a6447dont get your hopes up lol. I almost promise you it wont be
Sonia ate up every scene she was in. Her quirkiness was on point. She's like Val/contessa but politely cutting.
@djwallace4542
11 ай бұрын
She’s a million times better than Val and would easily destroy her. Sorry Val 😂
@sylviatamieanan4088
11 ай бұрын
She's a british Val. That's unbeatable.
@yusefflowers6260
11 ай бұрын
@@djwallace4542 I simply meant as a comparison personality wise, not a death match. 🤔😒🤷🏽♂️
@platform14
11 ай бұрын
Val is the worst
Talos's voice is cool af. He should voice some villian characters in the future.
@giantmonkey28
11 ай бұрын
I hope they don’t kill him off, but on the other hand it will feel wrong for his character for him to surrender and be taken jn
@stanco4ever
11 ай бұрын
@@giantmonkey28referring to Gravik? Talos is Ben mendelson
@giantmonkey28
11 ай бұрын
@@stanco4ever id just seen a vid about Gravik and I was thinking about him cos my bad
@giantmonkey28
11 ай бұрын
@@stanco4ever talos’ voice is sick tho I agree
@ramierecollins891
11 ай бұрын
I agree they need to somehow make him a marvel character or somthing very good actor
I'm heartbroken that Talos is gone. I so enjoyed his character in this series and his interactions with Nick. UNLESS...he wouldn't be the one on the phone, could he? I wonder if G'iah and Gravik will have a showdown, since they both have Extremis powers (and, for G'iah, who knows what else she might have). Olivia Coleman was absolutely charming in this episode. Bad ass.
@IceCold_Carter
11 ай бұрын
You not see Talos get buried in fire? Lol
@quincyaust9745
11 ай бұрын
Ok hear me out but imagine he’s calling Quake on the phone or coulson to get that shield team ready????
@2907ernesto
11 ай бұрын
@@quincyaust9745 AoS would be epic
Episode 6 better be an hour and half😊
I think Gravic reverting wasn't him showing anything, it was simply he was no longer using any of his 'power' to look human so he could unleash all his strength. Added benefit was he showed to every other skrull who he really is when he killed the guy in front of the others. It wasn't a 'human' but a skrull killing another skrull
I'm quite sure Maria Hill is Alice, especially after Fury mentioned the "new generation" of this camouflage device that allows you to change the overall appearance. I think it was someone else disguised as Maria Hill and she may be undercover, somewhere in New Skrullos
@lindsayloves84
11 ай бұрын
Alice is that one female skull that is hanging around gravik?
@stevebrightmore4937
11 ай бұрын
Might be on to something there
@ciasteczkowypotwor1
11 ай бұрын
I meant "alive", not Alice :/
Olivia Colman is absolutely killing this role. I love her actress and her character, because of this. And she may be one of the best things about this show.
Cinematic pet peeve of mine is whenever they reuse scenes shot in the show/film as the material for the news casts. Like the camera used to film also was the news imagery. I liked that in Civil War the Russos reshot scenes from Winter Soldier and Avengers from a different angle to show those events from a different angle.
I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out, but the actress that portrays SLJ's wife also played his character's mother in Unbreakable. She gave a great speech there about comic book villains.
At this point in the MCU I'm kind of tired of sympathetic villains, so Gravik showing his true colors was refreshing. The plight of the Skrulls he's leading is genuine but now we can see he's just using them for his own selfish ends. Sometimes it's nice to have an antagonist you can just hate.
As a long time Izzard fan, I have to say my glee at the 'Cake or Death' moment was extreme.
The hardest death was Maria Hill's. It just seemed insane. Felt like family being torn away. Like she was the voice of the audience.
Disney + needs to get more consistent with its run times. If the show is meant to be an hour long, then make each episode an hour long
@slack__
11 ай бұрын
where has it ever been stated that d+ shows are meant to be an hour long?
@soabones9031
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking this same thing for weeks, don’t make the first two an hour then go to 30 min 😂 disney+ wants that second month BAAD
@PeachM0de
11 ай бұрын
@@slack__ I was using that as an example, obviously
I think the president heard fury ,and is going to not trust " Rhodey' at all in this it'll be interesting to see in the next episode who the president choose to trust ,but I don't think he's going to distrust fury here.
@giantmonkey28
11 ай бұрын
I mean he won’t be president for much longer anyway. President Ross 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This was definitely my favorite episode. I hope the finale is an hour long. I believe the secret call Fury made at the end was either to Monica or Carol. 🤷♂️
Fury walking at the end with the Secret Invasion theme gave me the chills🥶
@platform14
11 ай бұрын
Throwback to when he walked through hellicarrier at end of avengers 1
I think Fury wants to give "harvest" to Gravik as he wouldn't be able to use most of the powers of the Avengers like he wants and Fury knows that
@garibaldilebeau
11 ай бұрын
I wonder if he knows something. In the Harvest is incompatible…maybe Stark ALSO used stabilised Extremis to help with the removal of his shrapnel, magnet and hole in his chest, and Fury knows that will lead to Gravik overdosing which he hopes will cause a ‘Chinese theatre’ explosion
@ghiggs8389
11 ай бұрын
A step further, Harvest could be the ultimate superpower neutralizer.
@vidinhadovini
11 ай бұрын
@@ghiggs8389Holy shit that would be amazing and would line up it a weapon against treats
@slack__
11 ай бұрын
maybe that, or Gi'ah might swoop in and use the only sample of Harvest they have, making her a "good" super skrull. I doubt emilia clarke would just sign up for a 6 episode series after 8+ years of GoT, she may have an ongoing part in the future of the MCU and her being a super skrull on the good guy side might well be that. i guess we'll see
@ghiggs8389
11 ай бұрын
@@slack__ you probably hit the nail on the head
Oh I SO HOPE it's Maria that Fury is talking to at the end, that's CLASSIC FURY which I have missed so much in this series ! I'm tired of seeing Fury portrayed like a has been 🫤 Also Sonya is my life goal lol 🤣 I love her !!!! Every scene she's in is GOLD 🥇
The person he was talking to at the end was very clearly Gravik. He was getting the harvest to meet him to not blow up new skrullos
Lol it'd be funny if gravik ended up failing because eventually after he took Groot's powers he was relegated to only being able to say, "I am Gravik."
My theory about the hospital scene would be this: Because Fury didnt trust anyone, including security personnel, Fury may have taken POTUS to a small hospital or a clinic, and not a big city regional hospital. To be a bit more incognito. This may explain the minimal staff issue. And it may have taken the Gravik's men and the US government agents time to figure out where Fury actually took him.
More important question about that fight scene in the house... if Varra had all those guns stashed away in her house, why did she have to go all the way to a safety deposit box previously, to get one to shoot Fury with?
I am so thrilled that you validated the Cake or Death line! I am a HUGE Eddie Izzard fan!!! The second I heard the line I knew it was Eddie! Thank you! The who Cake or Death skit is hysterical and brilliant❤❤❤❤❤
@johnmitchell452
11 ай бұрын
I'm glad it's not just me that noticed that. A very brilliant sketch!! 😂
The President knows Rhodey is a Skrull because Nick told it to him when he brought him into the hospital. He was in and out of consciousness but I'm sure he heard Fury.
Your point about the hospital scenes being flat and low budget is one of the better criticisms I've noted. One hopes it was in service of better cgi, I suppose. Interesting to note: the harvest, and iirc the groot DNA had to come from "the battle of earth", but I think the watch in hawkeye came from there too. So in shades of homecoming, item 47; AoS, both battles are spawn points for mcguffins and origins--and presumably involve damage control (which would be easy to evolve into a hammer or mutant police). Dramatically we kinda have most of the pieces: fury felt defeated by the snap, talos believed in coexistence, etc. We don't know why gravik became suicidal other than a lust for power and opportunity. The final housekeeping is where is true Rhodes, what happens to the bulk of skrulls, where does a surviving Gaia go, and maybe why did they never find a planet/set up for a kree skrull background conflict in Marvels. Tin foil hat: Mason is fury's son and half skrull
What did you think of the episode?
@Marvel_Brick_Animations
11 ай бұрын
Decent episode
@Aurelyn
11 ай бұрын
fr I hated the first 4 episodes. really badly done spy tropes all over. But the 5th episode saved the show. They NEEDED the first 4 episodes to really drive home how low Nick Fury had fallen for the 5th episode to mean anything, and they took this low point and knocked it out of the park.
@Only-Memes.
11 ай бұрын
🔥
@vevevy9397
11 ай бұрын
The weakest
@nicholasgarrick8855
11 ай бұрын
This episode was OK hopefully the finale can stick the landing of the show👍🏽
I mean I know it’s considered not cannon but Agents of Shield left off with Daisy Johnson acting as Earth’s representative to space. And now Fury has spent years in space building a space station. It implies in Agents that they arrive back in their time and universe at the end of the series after being in an alternate one of Im remembering correctly. I would really enjoy if Maria & Phil arrived with Daisy Johnson (aka Sky aka Quake) and her Secret Warriors in the Zephyr. I can dream.
@jackdubz4247
11 ай бұрын
It is canon. Events from AoS are in Nick Fury's official MCU biography. Plus, Disney+ is telling Secret Invasion viewers to go and watch Agents of SHIELD.
@thomasleonardis711
11 ай бұрын
@@jackdubz4247 well I for one would be totally psyched to see them return especially in a way that tied back to how the show left off for Daisy. I need to rewatch that show. It had some issues but it was still great.
It would be amazing if Fury gives Gravik the blood of the Avengers, and then when Gravik uses it, he gets no additional powers, because Fury only gave him Tony Stark, Dr. Strange, Natashas and Scott Lang's - just the blood from Avengers with NO superpowers.
The MCU is trying to tell me that Fury didn't replace every single window in his house with bullet proof glass or turn the damn house into a fortress
Ryan thank for another great review always your hardwork ,and dedicated is appreciated 👏🏽.
Did anyone notice his subtle “your mom” joke at 18:48 ? I know it’s childish but I laughed when I heard it
I love this show ! I’m not sure why it’s getting so much hate
@bini2851
11 ай бұрын
Looks cheap
@MsBigact
11 ай бұрын
@@bini2851I haven't noticed that at all. Even if it is "cheap" it hasn't interfered with the viewing of it or the story and acting for me.
Love the Black Widow callbacks during this episode.
Thank you for acknowledging Coulsen’s role in providing the helicarrier in AoU.
I assumed he was calling Gravik at the end letting him know he is coming.
@pgkrzywy
11 ай бұрын
That was my take, too!
@TheSportsandFilmFellowship
11 ай бұрын
Yup or avengers
@regirantanen
11 ай бұрын
I think that's what they want us to think. I think its Hill.
@claudegrenier3180
11 ай бұрын
I thought it was Fury II lol I'm still thinking there was two Fury's in this series
@bini2851
11 ай бұрын
Could be coulson lol
I mean the hospital scenes really aren’t that unrealistic. Fury was out there alone with the President, so any other agents wouldn’t be around since he drove off while they were still fighting. And any hospital that might expect a President to show up likely won’t have that busy of an ER, fancier hospitals are just like that.
@delmarfrazier2727
11 ай бұрын
Exactly and the nurse ask did he have clearance?
@Cloud-dt6xb
11 ай бұрын
Wait yeah that's right so he completely forgot about that.
Who else caught the Izzard reference?
Great show we’ve been needing something slow yet full of twists can’t wait for the last episode next week
The Ezekiel 25:17 epitaph on fury’s gravestone being the speech from pulp fiction was hilarious @screencrush
What if the big reveal Sonja Fallsworth is actually Talos and the person we thought was Talos was just another scroll loyal to Talos and Fury 🤯🤯
@jshimdabrim
11 ай бұрын
I literally was just thinking this after this he got shot!!
@dungeonmasterzed6558
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same about talos until I realized that all skrulls know what each other look like in their actual form, giah would especially know what talos looks like as a skrull. Like we know how our close ones look. And they can't hold forms when dead.
Olivia Colman elevates this show every time she appears.
The spoken line “well who else could be a skroll” kind of sums up this marvel for me. So much spoken, so little shown.
Ryan thanks for the episodes every time! You’re the best person at breaking everything down
Fun fact: If it was only DNA Fury wanted, he could have just collected them from nails, saliva, swear, urine, hair or even poo
@MDOReilly
11 ай бұрын
I think it's not just the Avengers DNA that was collected. The Battle of Earth provides an buffet of special abilities to gather and investigate, both from the heroes and the villains.
@kipboone8095
11 ай бұрын
Maybe Skrulls can't turn into filing cabinets, but they can do toilets just fine! That wasn't porcelain in the Avengers HQ!😅
@meltmyfaceoff
11 ай бұрын
The secret is that he got it from poo. Thors poo, hulks poo (big)
@detroitdiezel7856
11 ай бұрын
How do you collect it from swear? I didn't hear any of the Avengers using cuss words, except maybe Tony.
@detroitdiezel7856
11 ай бұрын
@@kipboone8095huh?
I hope Talos is alive as a filing cabinet
WE NEED LONGER EPISODES and more of what we saw today.
I don't understand how people are forgetting that Sharon also used widows veil in falcon and the winter soldier. I mean its not a big deal but you would think breakdown channels would remember
I think he is very obviously talking to Gravik at the end.
how did they collect the blood of specific people from a massive bloody, muddy battlefield with hundreds of corpses littering the ground, everything covered in debris, trodden on? Also having Carol's blood is clearly not enough to replicate her powers otherwise the Kree wouldve done it
@andrewshandle
11 ай бұрын
The corpses disappeared with Tony's snap, but you are correct on everything else. I also imagine eventually that water that Strange was holding back would flood the battlefield too.
@Waashoe
11 ай бұрын
Bud did you watch the show?
@andrewshandle
11 ай бұрын
@@Waashoe I'm sure he did, what they don't explain is that there were thousands of Wakandans, Asgardians and Sorcerers on the battle field, so how the heck did people go in after the fact and find blood only from a few Avengers? Does it make sense that Fury would have Avenger DNA? Yes, most definitely. Does it make sense he'd get it from the Endgame battle? No, definitely not.
@albertjiminez1144
11 ай бұрын
@@andrewshandle Fury probably had his Skrull team in the Dept of Damage Control collect the materials containing blood so you would think they are just cleaning up some random debris.
@Oscar-bx2no
11 ай бұрын
I'll tell you why, the power of the script. there is no point in looking for the DNA of all the avengers on the battlefield. being able to collect saliva or feces from their base. The only one that would make sense is Carol Danvers's DNA, but how to find it in a sea of blood that left the battle.
him not telling the avengers makes sense. he wouldn't want them knowing he collected DNA from the battle. I kinda like that plot point, a lot
Also weird that in the credits the Cobbie Smoulders is the first name to appear in every episode. maybe they don't want us to forget about her
Also i saw maria hill's actor's name (cobie smulder) in the credits as a special guest even if she only appeared in the clip of gravik killing her on tv so she might actually be the person fury is talking to.
@tldr365
11 ай бұрын
Her name appears in the credits of every episode so I doubt it.
THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!!!
The runes are better translated as thoughts and ideas of Isa = Clarity, Laguz = Intution and Fears (it's shown twice), Raidho = Decisions. Algiz = Defense, Ansuz = Communications, Thurisaz = Conflict, Wunjo = Travel, Raidho = more decisions, Sowilo = Health or Inguz = Goals, Isa = Introspection, Raidho = even more decisions, Thurisaz = Regeneration and finally Evolution.
So I didn't buy into the theories before, but I am thinking it's more and more likely that Fury absolutely will die at the end the series. The symbolism of his grave was just a bit too on the nose, and I think Varra's story in episode four, about the doctor whose life she took over, was foreshadowing that Fury will die and a Skrull (probably G'iah, but maybe somebody else) will take over his life and job protecting Earth, and that's the "Fury" that we saw in the Marvels trailer.
@giantmonkey28
11 ай бұрын
I like that idea but I’ve just had it in my head that G’iah will become Abigail Brand in the Mcu and work on saber/sabre ( I don’t know which one it is)
@vidinhadovini
11 ай бұрын
Good theory! And can be both: she start as fury and later assumes as Giah/Abigail
@slack__
11 ай бұрын
there's literally no point in killing off Fury and still have to pay Sam Jackson to turn up to set, but be "someone else underneath" in whichever story. doesn't make much sense if you think about it. if you kill off fury, SLJ is gone too.
As for the blood sample thing. I don't think it's actually the blood that reveals the true form it's the fact the skrull lost concentration due to the pain making it so they can't maintain the form as well
@barbaraschaumburg5949
11 ай бұрын
Interesting!
I totally agree that this episode should’ve felt big and could’ve been more cinematic.
Screen Crush is the best! Love your hard work
I’m loving this show so much. I need that overstuffed finale. Everything but the kitchen sink. Stick the landing Marvel, light this thing up 🔥
I’m hoping that he’s talking to Moira Hill, and maybe more people tied to SHIELD. The best way for this to all end would be for him to bring back SHIELD to deal with earth threats and still have SABER to deal with threats to Earth. Maybe bring back Coulson, and other Agents of Shield, not necessarily making the entirety of it canon, but just that some of it was. Or even some of the other minor ones from Avengers or Age of Ultron. Maybe even some Skrulls that stayed loyal to Fury that we haven’t seen.
This show is a slow cooker, building up slowly which might be why some people dislike it as it isn't the usual Marvel offering. Personally I'm enjoying it.
Or Gravik reverted back to his skrull form cos as Magneto said in First Class to Raven, using her energy to maintain her appearance as anything other than her blue state, she is unable to give anything else her total focus. He wanted to give his fight total focus.
@flashbring
11 ай бұрын
It was awesome seeing him drip with blood.
Actually the Maria Hill theory makes sense. By having her “ die”, it could be just Fury sending her on a separate mission for when the time is right 🤔 My theory is that Fury will need to fight Gravik alone but brings in other skilled humans (nothing in their DNA that Gravik wants) like the Widows, including Yelena. No doubt Sonya has something up her sleeve as well… We’ll see. Cannot wait for the finale. 🤞they stick the landing.
@andreaalba2717
11 ай бұрын
Also as soon the credits roll, the actress name appear as special guest
@KxngAntTae
11 ай бұрын
How is he gonna beat Super Skrull Gravik alone?
@iloveentertainment
11 ай бұрын
@@KxngAntTae that is the question. But Gravik could have killed him ages ago. There is more to that relationship and story. We’ll see. Not saying my theory will be right. But be realistic. There is just one episode left. Show budget vs movie budget. Etc etc. no point in being too hyped about it 🤷♀️✌️
Your theory on hill could explain why she is continually brought and a guest star in every episode
@rgreerjr
11 ай бұрын
they keep showing the scene of her dieing, thats where the guest star credit comes from.
Thanks Guys👍🏼👍🏼👍
@screencrush @ryanarey I think you're right about MH, in the conversation btw Furry and OC's char, he said that the "widow's veil" was the old version, and eluded to the fact that the newer version can camouflage you're entire body.
Episode 4 was perfection, set a high standard for the show but this was still a really good episode. Loving the show so far
@bluemeister22
11 ай бұрын
Did you watch a different show? How can you possibly think this show is above mediocre, you must be gen z....
@Elicapalot63rd
11 ай бұрын
@@bluemeister22the show is good. Stop crying
@charleneWL
11 ай бұрын
I loved it also !
@bluemeister22
11 ай бұрын
@@Elicapalot63rd You don't know quality...
Hoping we see Coulson in the finale
@rgreerjr
11 ай бұрын
I wouldnt be holding your breath
@platform14
11 ай бұрын
Agents of shield is not MCU canon anymore. Technically Coulson died by Loki.
@rgreerjr
11 ай бұрын
@@platform14 wrong, but ok
@MagicCityMayhem
11 ай бұрын
Skrullson
My hope for the final episode is a retcon that the eye patch actually has tech that enables fury to see skrulls in their natural form even when they are shape shifted as someone else. This would help in the finale, show that he has always been a step ahead and i think it would be nice to show that when prisilla watched him read in their home he was actually looking at her lovingly in her natural form through his eyepatch. I also think that going along with the struggle that fury talked about that skrulls should be offered amnesty if they will stay in their natural form. This would bring it full circle from the 1st episodev where we saw fury asking them in the 90s to hide in a human face... if they really want to be at home here they unfortunately need to go through the struggle of being accepted for the green aliens that they are and not the faces of humans that they can hide behind.
I need a Doug podcast where he interviews other animal mascots First up Chloe, the former director of Barketing from Movie Pass Who do you guys suggest he interviews
I think Nick fury might’ve called Phil Coulson?
Isn't there an old episode of FF4 where they turned a super skrull into a cow ,and left him on an island? Imagine they did that to gravik in the finale😂.
@andrewshandle
11 ай бұрын
Fantastic Four #2 way back at the very start of the FF. Three Skrulls were getting info on Earth for an invasoin, so rather than killing them, Reed made them turn into Cows and he hypnotized them to forget they were Skrulls so they just lived their lives as cows.
@PapaBear0114
11 ай бұрын
@@andrewshandle to add to that they eventually were slaughtered and turned into hamburgers. Which was eaten by a punk group that became the Skrull Kill Krew.
I noticed the biblical inscription on one of the Fury headstones 'The Path of the Righteous Man...' a favourite of his character 'Jules' in Pulp Fiction
I agree I instantly thought he's talking to Maria Hill and Coby Smulders was credited in the episode 😉
I’m so devastated that Talos didn’t make it. I still hold out a sliver of hope that it wasn’t actually talos that died. But yeah the last episode better be 60-90 minutes long
@stanco4ever
11 ай бұрын
Can't say that I like how he died, but I hope he stays dead... too many fake outs and revivals in these shows
@marcomagana8329
11 ай бұрын
@@stanco4ever to be fair, it would be the only show where a fakeout like this would make sense. I’m at like 1 or 2 % belief of talos actually being alive still
@dungeonmasterzed6558
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same about talos until I realized that all skrulls know what each other look like in their actual form, giah would especially know what talos looks like as a skrull. Like we know how our close ones look. And they can't hold forms when dead.
Absolutely love the "cake or death" bit. Gotta love Eddie Izzard
I loved that there was a compartment in the mausoleum just for his eyepatch
Enjoying it so far
The show so far has been AWESOME!!!!!!!. Sofia is absolutely killing it!!!!!
The Harvest has just revealed Fury's evil plan and it's worse. Fury kept the Skrulls because of their body's potential to adapt. I wonder why the Harvest is just a single vial so I realized that it's already a refined mixture of genes that Fury got from a super skrull he made. After the Battle of Earth, Fury had skrulls collecting genes then he started to work on a being with all these genes, a super skrull. That is why Fury said Gravik got the idea of Super Skrulls from The Harvest. It proved effective but something went wrong so the skrull had to be killed and the genes harvested. Fury's plan for episode 6 is to give Gravik the genes so he can refine it some more, adding 4 more abilities. Devious.
@abrilryandacanay2816
11 ай бұрын
Sonya also said to Nick that "Darwin never sleeps" which means that evolution keeps moving along. Nick will evolve the Harvest further by putting it in Gravik.
"Let's finish this" implies a plan that was thought out and made with someone who has been with Fury for a long time. Totally makes sense and would be so awesome!
Ok you've earned my loyalty by including the Eddie Izzard reference. Other videos have missed it, and it's one of my favourite moments of the episode, especially as it's said by Olivia Coleman
Love this one Guys! Especially the relatable Skrulls and how it’s a n example of African Americans and how we were stripped of our African Culture. Don’t know your team but definitely on point! Keep up the great work!
Someone else commented the same thing that I was thinking: We think that Sonya is Talos and the “talos” we saw die was actually a loyal solider to Talos and Fury. I even held out hope on Maria still being alive at this point. She could be using this newly developed Widow technology that Fury mentioned to Sonya. Maybe Nick didn’t lose his touch after all…?
@dungeonmasterzed6558
11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same about talos until I realized that all skrulls know what each other look like in their actual form, giah would especially know what talos looks like as a skrull. Like we know how our close ones look like. And they can't hold forms when dead.
@jshimdabrim
11 ай бұрын
@@dungeonmasterzed6558 mmm that’s true. But I don’t recall ever actually seeing his body when he was buried? I might have missed it but I agree with you on that too. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see the finale
@MrBazBake
11 ай бұрын
It would be weird if Nick Fury had a bunch of spare Skrulls around with their own families, hopes, and dreams to sacrifice brutally just in case the audience felt bad about someone they liked dying. Especially if Nick Fury didn't know the audience existed and instead was doing it so people he liked more wouldn't die... and he knew it in advance.
Thank you ❤
Glad I wasn’t the only one to catch the Eddie Izzard reference!