Second generation Irish and the cause of Ireland with Brian J. Dooley

Barry Sheppard welcomes Irish human rights activist and author, Brian J. Dooley. Brian speaks about his book 'Choosing the Green? Second Generation Irish and the Cause of Ireland'.

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  • @helenferullo5706
    @helenferullo5706 Жыл бұрын

    I was born in the North of England in 1945. My parents were Irish speaking from Connemara. We lived in what you would now call an Irish ghetto, but didn’t realize it growing up with lots of Irish speaking relatives and friends. At the time Catholics went catholic schools and Protestants went to Protestant schools, and Irish history was never taught. We came to America in 1958 with the help from our Irish relatives who had immigrated here. I was intrigued listening to Brian Dooley and plan to read his book. Growing up in England, even though I was pretty smart in school, I learned nothing about Ireland and it’s history. At home we heard about leprechauns, etc., sang lots of sad Irish music, drank lots of tea and ate Irish bread, but I never heard anything about the famine or the troubles. My father was a laborer, came from a family of sixteen, most of them left Ireland in their teens and were never heard from again. However, I do remember feeling “less than” amongst English protestants. Embarrassingly, until the age of fifty I knew only the commercial ideologies about Ireland. When I mentioned this to a friend who teaches a college course on cultural awareness she said “that’s because the Irish didn’t talk about.” Today I read and watch everything pertaining to Ireland and it’s history. It is all part of my identity, and I’m grateful to those who went before.

  • @addictedtocraic
    @addictedtocraic2 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous interview Barry. A real eye opener.

  • @SirAntoniousBlock
    @SirAntoniousBlock2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting aspect that has been air-brushed out of history.

  • @petergaskin1811
    @petergaskin18112 жыл бұрын

    I once worked for a guy who was born in England. Yet he always bought cars in Ireland, had an Irish passport and always referenced Ireland no matter what he did. His sister ran Irish dancing classes, yet, with her brother had an accent which never strayed from Streatham. He was even called a "second-hand Paddy" by other Irishmen who were definitely born in and came from Ireland.

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @conorwhite2066
    @conorwhite20662 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting point on the localization Songs I grew up with that my mother from cork used to sing Boys of kilmichael and the lonely woods round upton

  • @dave3gan
    @dave3gan2 жыл бұрын

    I always think it odd that Irish-America is discussed so much while English-Irish almost never. As a percentage the latter must be much more significant.

  • @RazorMouth

    @RazorMouth

    2 жыл бұрын

    British-Irish people don't advertise it as much I guess. Irish Americans wear it like a badge of honour, many would get involved in Irish cultural activities especially in New York, Chicago and Boston.

  • @irishmade8136
    @irishmade81362 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant interview. Very interesting 🇮🇪👍

  • @memisemyself
    @memisemyself2 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that someone would call this man a "plastic Paddy". In my experience, it's reserved for people with weak connections to Ireland, who discover their Irishness when there's an advantage to it. The "my greatgranddaddy came from Mayo" types. Very interesting interview. It's about time a book like his was written but a pity that it's no longer available.

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can get an Irish passport if your great-grandfather had a pint of Guinness in 1912.

  • @timlinator

    @timlinator

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@busterbiloxi3833 nope must have at least a grandparent born in Ireland.

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@timlinator Nope. Slip the guy in the passport office a mickey or two and you're in. (Only slightly joking here.) I mean it when I say that it's easy to get an OIRISH passport.

  • @Rasher1974

    @Rasher1974

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@busterbiloxi3833 you dont know what you are talking about, typical disingenuous tittle tattle like those who coined the same phrase when Jack C was in charge of our team. Grow up.

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rasher1974 It's a fucking joke. Lighten up, sod. By the way, if you're a gifted athlete, it's even easier to get an Oirish pasport. Have a pint of Guiness people. It will make you OIRISH!

  • @nelled6240
    @nelled62402 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your excellent teaching

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

    who took our hemp industry .... written here in irish blood kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJ-kzZJmYMbMhrg.html

  • @dogstar5572
    @dogstar55722 жыл бұрын

    I was sent to a catholic school because of anti-Irish sentiment in the 70s/80s. London Irish and proud of it. Both parents Irish but born in London. I remember the signs in the pub doors ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish. Not very nice.

  • @castroceltic7424

    @castroceltic7424

    2 жыл бұрын

    Virtually every person of Glasgow Irish extraction attends catholic schools. The Anti Irish , anti catholic bigotry is still prevalent in Scotland

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @dannymcintyre3819

    @dannymcintyre3819

    Жыл бұрын

    @@castroceltic7424 Dundee had a higher percentage of total population of Irish born in the 19th century than Glasgow. Dundee's footballing history (Dundee Hibernian aka United, Lochee Harp, Dundee Emmet) and political history is testament to this. The United Irish League, Sinn Fein, Irish National Foresters and IRA gun runners were all active in the city. De Valera praised two female IRA gun runners from Dundee in the 1950s I think. Even into the 1970s prior to the collapse of Mass attendance and religious baptism and marriage, Dundee averaged 26% Catholic marriages, the vast majority of which were from the Irish diaspora. The difference between Dundee and Glasgow is that few Orange Loyal Irish people settled in Dundee and a majority were female too so some of the surnames have been lost.

  • @fellabay
    @fellabay2 жыл бұрын

    Where is a a 'Plastic Paddy' from?.... Tuppaweary!!!

  • @vladimirputin4822

    @vladimirputin4822

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only the tired ones.

  • @irbfenian2594
    @irbfenian2594 Жыл бұрын

    I never knew Tom Clarke wasn't born in Ireland, with Connolly the driving force of the Easter rising. Tom Barry is Cork's most famous military leader from the war of Independence but few know, in cork at least, that he was born in co Kerry. Great interview, thanks.

  • @westsideisdabest7825
    @westsideisdabest7825 Жыл бұрын

    I'm third generation. Both grandparents came from Mayo and I spent 50% of my time with my grandmother having a single mother in my early years. Always felt a connection to Ireland growing up as a result of it. Thing is, Britain is multicultural now. So when it comes to a "Cultural identity" I would always claim Irish, just because I grew up listening to Irish music, hearing Irish accents with the mad number of cousins I had visiting from across the river etc..

  • @nialldolan4443
    @nialldolan44432 жыл бұрын

    R. Keane was completely wrong in calling out McCarthy for him not being a real Irishman, as McCarthy was probably more Irish in his ways than Roy. Although Roy was a great player, he should not have left his teammates in Japan, period. Roy, like many other Irish, have many other bloodlines within our island culture I.E., Spanish, Italian, etc.

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

    foo;een is what you are .....

  • @vespelian
    @vespelian2 жыл бұрын

    I just wonder what percentage of English/Irish people have Irish/English blood with all the raiding settling, migration and counter migration through the millennia? If my own heritage is anything to go by, it is significant.

  • @RazorMouth

    @RazorMouth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Huge amount of Irish ancestry in Britain, in 1850 the population of England was only double that of Ireland. Now it's 8 times the population, partially due to the Irish "famine" and the emigration from Ireland.

  • @demopalestino1285
    @demopalestino12852 жыл бұрын

    he has that beautiful fenian blood running trough them veins. heart harming

  • @jerrybarnes6611
    @jerrybarnes6611 Жыл бұрын

    A really interesting interview. To think that an accent would identify your nationality must be unique to the Irish! Surely, the "second generation Irish" would have been Irish by ethnicity even if British by citizenship, irrespective of their accents? Why did the IRA never establish and International Brigade as was done in the Spanish Civil War? It's interesting too that the Irish in Britain (first generation and others) never used their political clout to further the Irish cause, as the Irish in the US did? English Catholics kept a very low profile through the Irish independence movement right up to the Troubles. I guess that were terrified as been thought of as "disloyal". Would be great if you interview Mick Lynch - what a great PM he would make.

  • @alanbutterworth8669
    @alanbutterworth86692 жыл бұрын

    There are probably at least as many Irish/ English but they don't push the minority downtrodden sympathy cause,!!!.

  • @johndriscoll157
    @johndriscoll1572 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, but one correction....there is a republican plot in Ford cemetery in Liverpool which contains a memorial to Irish volunteers.

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those volunteers...always plotting.

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @briandooley705

    @briandooley705

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this - I hadn’t known it and would have said it in the interview if I had. Appreciate you adding this.

  • @joeavreg2254
    @joeavreg22542 жыл бұрын

    Not sure about that bit about plaques to heroes of the revolution. I think Glaswegiens (maybe Scots in general) would put up some plaques if only to spite Brexiteers.

  • @chrishall8705

    @chrishall8705

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shut up

  • @johndriscoll157
    @johndriscoll1572 жыл бұрын

    Let's be honest, Irishness is not always a precursor to republicanism. Seán Mac Stiofain's mother was from a family in the North that would have had a British identity. There are many examples of British people who choose to be "Irish" in their thought process and would rebel against their own ethnicity. Victor Fagg is a prime example. Even some of our "glorious dead" are ethnically at least half British, ie. Pearse and Mellowes.

  • @seandoherty925

    @seandoherty925

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll never forget visiting the mother of a friend of my parents in Dun Laoghaire. She was an English Salvationist who had come to Ireland with the Salvation army and fallen for and married an Irish Republican killed during troubles and buried in Glasnevin cemetery's Republican plot. They had 6 kids together. He was dead many years before my visit. She had pictures of royalty in every room in her house. I learned an important lesson that day, - reality is stranger than fiction.

  • @oconnor6177
    @oconnor61772 жыл бұрын

    Mancunian Poet Liam Mellows

  • @busterbiloxi3833

    @busterbiloxi3833

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sod the Rotters!

  • @habu179
    @habu1792 жыл бұрын

    They are so argumentative though.....

  • @irishmade8136

    @irishmade8136

    2 жыл бұрын

    For example.???

  • @habu179

    @habu179

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@irishmade8136 Ha ha....Q.E.D

  • @jeffatkins6890

    @jeffatkins6890

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most Irish blokes can talk a glass eye to sleep , loverly people but born to shoot them selves in the foot

  • @fieldagentryan

    @fieldagentryan

    2 жыл бұрын

    no we arent .... would you care to argue your point ...lol

  • @habu179

    @habu179

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fieldagentryan Very good.....

  • @fieldagentryan
    @fieldagentryan2 жыл бұрын

    if he played for london against killimordaly in croke park - he cheated !

  • @robertbest4398
    @robertbest4398 Жыл бұрын

    Get over it wtf go away mr