I was really hoping for a "Guard" stance for troops. Where you set a group of soldiers to stand guard over more vulnerable units (seige). That way they don't go rushing off to attack a Ferocious Farm or Lethal Lumber Camp and leave your bombards and tres buckets vulnerable to attack.

@Ryan-ni7mo

Ай бұрын

That would be incredibly useful for controller cause I suck so bad at micro it ends up being a cluster fuck trying to guard my siege

@Consensual_Crucio

Ай бұрын

There is already. It’s the “stand ground” stance. Does literally what you’re asking. I usually put a cheap meat shield around my mongonels and put them on this. Enemies can’t path past your units.

@kmaclub143

Ай бұрын

@@Consensual_Crucio It's not the same what they are talking about is from age of mythology

@Aussie_Drongo stone wall bastion is the “corner” piece. If you destroy that part, the hole isn’t big enough for big units like rams to get through. So I’m guessing the two segments next to the corner will be destroyed now

Definitely feels like a Red Bull balance patch in preparation for a bigger patch afterword. Breathe everyone.

@stes5429

Ай бұрын

Was telling the same. They don't want to mess up balances in the most important tournament

fun fact: The Yumi Ashigaru +5 health buff in feudal means Gilded horsemen will no longer kill them in 2 hits, they will now need 3 hits in feudal. (still 2 hits in castle and 3 hits in imp)

Japanese shinobis need a buff land mark needs to passively spawn a shinobi every two minutes like the desert raider wing spawn time allowing the shinobi to actually be used in late game

this feels like a "small" patch before the red bull qualifiers cause they don´t want to change the metagame too much for the biggest tournament of the year, they even announced a new patch after wollolo qualifiers

@apache7delta

Ай бұрын

I agree with you brother

00:02 Season 8 of AoE4 brings a wealth of changes and updates. 01:51 Season 8 brings new maps and reworked mechanics 05:32 Equal distribution of sheep on the map to prevent game swings 07:19 Fixes and updates in Season 8 11:08 Improved attack move functionality 13:03 New default attack move behavior and king garrison change in Season 8 update 16:42 Improvements in market mechanics and unit behavior 18:17 Villagers now deposit resources directly after completing farm construction. 21:55 Changes to Byzantine and Chinese powers 23:28 Significant balance changes and new shortcuts introduced in Season 8 of AoE4. 27:13 New changes in Season 8 for AoE4 28:55 Artillery shot reworked for buildings and fog of war 32:34 Changes in trade, training time, and buffs for different civilizations 34:29 Economic and military balance changes in Season 8 38:13 Season 8 for AoE4 brings good changes Crafted by Merlin AI.

I hope that lack of changes are caused by them working on new expansion with civs

@sarangtamirisa5090

Ай бұрын

Big doubt.

@Egomotion1

Ай бұрын

Prob no big changes due to red bull wolololo, but they mentioned the mid patch is going to be bigger in august, and a big surprise for spring 2025

@bradypreston2370

Ай бұрын

@@Egomotion1 where is the teaser for spring 2025?

@Quinti22

Ай бұрын

@@bradypreston2370 and the end of the patch notes, the part that drongo didn't read

guess the stone wall bastion means the turning pile of the stone wall. now some time when it been destroy, nearby segments dont goes down, that makes stupid siege will stuck outside.

Hell yeah i want units to come out attack moving! Or you should be able to change the rally point to either be move or attack to location

I actually not that disappointed with the patch, some critical issues are getting worked on, the attack move thing is soooooo huge if u try to get new players in. Understand your bad feelings on the caster mode of course, but i wana say that they focused on that aspect pretty heavy in the last survey, maybe if enought people voted it up there it'll be in the next one. Would like to have the stone tower properly integraded i guess, since it hasn't really been worked on since ages

My favorite thing about aussie drongo is how his life comes into view this time it was nuggies!

Giving you a "hell yeah" for auto attack move from military buildings haha

IN WHAT WORLD OOTD GETS COMPLETELY IGNORED

@ned8896

Ай бұрын

Devs have been hating on HRE and OOTD since the game released.

@Jimboquacks

Ай бұрын

@@ned8896 Yup, Season 2 and 7 have been the only patches where HRE got a buff.

Controller players still cant use king abilities 😢

@AbbasLuke-iq8pj

Ай бұрын

Yea it’s crazy

@thegorn

Ай бұрын

In FFA, or you mean the English king?

@SidMajors

Ай бұрын

Lol wtf really o.O

@unclientrandom5371

Ай бұрын

Ffa​@@thegorn

@licenze2killu927

Ай бұрын

@@thegorn yeah the dominion king.

I was expecting at least a little sneak peek to new civilizations😢

@Schrogs

Ай бұрын

They priority for them is the new age of mythology so I am not surprised for the small update this time around.

These days to keep a game alive you must keep constant change in your game. If you stagnate on a comfy formula people will get bored easily. Fortnite and League of Legends are great examples of game that kept it fresh with game changing updates and archived a long live span. AOE4 concurrent players were on the rise last 6 month with the dlc and cool updates, now it is dropping again

To be fair, I agree they ahould remove console in one block.

Three months for arguably no noticeable changes... what else can you say? I understand the developers are being cautious about making big changes before major tournaments, but they could have released all these updates (and the next one) about 15 days ago. I think most AoE players feel this isn’t enough to shift the stale and flavorless meta. Indeed, this game feels like it’s on life support right now, and it’s sad… it’s such a great game with a very faithful player base.

About the balance, imo we shouldn't have a situation where one landmark is an obvious choice in 99% of situations. I think that landmarks should be strongly connected with the strategy. Meinwerk vs Aachan is a good example to me for the HRE and we have some another pick.

Rus is the ultimate survivor of balance patches, but at least English gets a nerf.

@Avinash_Lincoln

Ай бұрын

not for long, just wait untill bounty rework drops and Rus will just be unplayable, devs kinda tend to do that, they will nerf it to ground and buff it back up, lets see though.

@thegorn

Ай бұрын

Sheep food reduction is an indirect buff to English. I suspect you'll see a lot more English players slapping down those two farms straight up

@danielmunoz2316

Ай бұрын

@@Avinash_Lincoln I do not think Rus will become unplayable but nerfed

They need to fix the console free for all because we don't get access to king abilities, we're at a disadvantage always.

@zachdean6706

Ай бұрын

Do what I did...buy a PC!

almost 1 year with little balance/changes to old civs. first it was focus on newly added civs, then now the tournament excuse ...... its so slow.

As a rus main, lack of kremlin nerf is kool

He said bastion from overwatch. @8:20 =)

If I read it correctly Ottoman mil school got a buff in time instead of nerf, it used to multiply train time by 5, now only 4.75. In the meantime, mil schools do have a production rate bonus not mentioning the production time modifier in Vizier points. Wording is a bit confusing here.

I think it is 4 extra sheep. Dry Arabia- normally has 24 sheep X 250 = 6000 (3000 per player) Season 8- 2 extra sheep per player means 28 sheep X 200 = 5600 (2800 per player)

No no no no no I don’t want the attack move to attack the one closest to the curser. I like that it attacks the closest enemy to them. Then they’re goin to just run passed people…

@drock6441

Ай бұрын

That's not what it meant, it will act the same way in that regard

Its a small patch but every change nailed it imo

Attack move always got me when clicking into fog of war and you didn’t know a unit or building was there.

now which attack move mode is most like sc2?

There is zero evidence 3DBee was abusing the walls mechanic. What he is claiming is that he legitimately tried to wall the location off and the game didn't allow it, which gave him the information. Even Beasty has been seen receiving the very same information the very same way, like most of the players trying to wall a contested area off at a certain point. Please don't throw accusations without proofs.

@lucassteege1497

Ай бұрын

It's shocking to me the Devs have been too lazy to fix building-scanning since betas and pro players get accused of cheating for regularly playing and suffer for the lazyness of the game-makers...

@olegdragora2557

Ай бұрын

@@lucassteege1497 Yeah, most likely the team is heavily understaffed and there is a ton of bureaucracy, which holds back the potential of the best RTS game on the market so much.

34:30 time reduction multiplier means that you are going to divide the train time by the multiplier ( 10 sec becomes 2 sec with a 5x multiplier , and it becomes 2.105 sec with a x4.75 multiplier)

@Marc-gj9vx

Ай бұрын

no the military school train slower than regular building, so 10 sec becomes 50 sec, but now 10 sec becomes 47 seconds. So its a buff.

Im not trying to be that guy, I was expecting more, sorry devs

@leude9984

Ай бұрын

They said there will be a bigger patch after Whololo qualification

@erdemyusan3610

Ай бұрын

Yeah they didn't do a big patch to not drastically shift the meta before the tournament.

@vmaestro-xj9mp

Ай бұрын

God damn ayyubids need to be taken out of the game

@ned8896

Ай бұрын

@@leude9984 Haven't they said this for like a year or more now?

@lucassteege1497

Ай бұрын

​@@ned8896exactly... That's their strategy. Play time and keep hopes of the fans up without investing any budget into the game. Eventually milking as many people as possible with another dlc

Hell yeah! 15:00

I agree abt attack move out of production building. Also there needs to be penalty for leaving ranked matches, as a console player I’ve had pc guys leave my team cuz I play controller even tho I had higher score and rank and it’s infuriating

It is awesome that they are working on something big BUT...if something big will be max 1 per year and only minor things and no communication between them, soon there won't be enough players for which they could make this and sell anything new. To keep players and find new, the game needs constant and not-too-rare updates, interesting events, quality-of-life changes, communication from devs, and hype.

Hi drongo, will there be an outback octagon 3 soon?

rip OTD wasn't touched. One day it will be popular.

@Kameeho

Ай бұрын

No reason to touch perfection

@Egomotion1

Ай бұрын

gilded horseman should also have more range, small buff ;P?

I agree that this is a good patch but not what I was hoping for. However, at the beginning they mentioned that they are keeping the major changes after the Red Bull Wololo qualifications. Which is the first time they are delaying their changes for an S tier event (might be that they need more time and just found a good excuse). Anyways, I still have faith that we will be getting some exciting news for season 8and have big expectations for their mid-season patch.

...damn, i stopped playing AoE because i used Attack move and was like: "okay why doesent work attack move on horseman? Why no one tells you about that?" Meanwhile i was just unlucky that i seem to always clicked on a unit with my attack move when i used Horseman. Seeing this Patchnote drives my kinda crazy. So many fights losed to this Problem and i never understood why it doesent work.

What’s your rank on league fella? League is my main game but enjoying AOE as a relaxing game from it 😅

No buff to the strongest civ? Guess I’m going all in with Rus. Join em.

Great update recap 💪 Also very happy to see the 1v1 content return Drongo 😮‍💨 Definitely more entertaining than FFA and videos usually around 30 mins are ideal.

Hello Drongo, Do you have any information if there is a Outback Octagon 3? and when? This would be so cool i love this Series😀

Hell yeah!!! 15:00

@evanwalters6574

Ай бұрын

😂

18:28 - im jealous

Good patch imo. Especially buff to horsemen, Ottoman and french

How do u download the update??

@rfmvoers

Ай бұрын

It will happen automatically (when the current season ends).

Zero changes to caster mode! Cri evrytim!!

The Deer Stones will grant access to a new unit ‘Khan’s Hunters’. btw

so camel archers still cost arm and leg .......................... tower of sultan cost 1k wood ..........

@benni2862

Ай бұрын

Well both... no

tbh most Chinese players don't need to hack the map all the time or need that LM :D

Fun game, still missing a bunch of very basic quality of life features that have existed in StarCraft 2 forever.

""""""""""""It is now possible to buy/sell resources at the market in batches of 500 by holding SHIFT while pressing the buy/sell button.""""""""""""""" finally, i missed you so much.....

Can’t wait for AoM Drongo cast!!

Your ottoman timing is wrong! It’s like a 2x cd copier vs 2.5x so 4.75 is slower than 5. The higher the number the faster the train time.

I reworking the Rus bounty in the next patch a hint that we might get a Rus variant? Also is a "khan's hunter" gonna involve anything with bounties?

@JL-vk1rs

Ай бұрын

maybe they are pro scout/magudai combo

So they extended season 7, to give us this weak patch, this is not enough, sorry

Hell ya comment to push the game!

The patch is looking good But I have I question Does the game looking for new divs or variants or it will Still 16 civilization?

@user-kn1mg1uh9n

Ай бұрын

Divs..civs

@charlesroberts4278

29 күн бұрын

I think I saw Persia and Vietnam, not sure if Drongo covered it because it was a "sneak peak." I think Killerpigeon did. Didn't watch it, so no idea what they're about. I think they should do the Spanish. The tercio would kick ass, and would counter the French well (pike n shot.) There aren't too many more civilizations that stretch from dark age to gunpowder that aren't already done. I'd say Poland, but the winged hussar would just be a buffed up imp age cataphract. Maybe variants?

Do you ever think they will bring the ancient civilizations like Romans, Persians, Babilonians?

@charlesroberts4278

29 күн бұрын

No, wrong time period. Wanna say AOE 2 is the ancient era. Should have all that you ask.

Hell yeah!

Saweet

Good viddrongo ty

The Patch is so great only good stuff🎉

WAGO WAGO DRONGO

I just got this game can someone give me 3 civs to try and why

Nda's and drongo dont go well together 🤣

OOTD still is Z tier and gets ignored during patch notes as usual, can they be any more obvious that they hate OOTD?

HELL YEAH

Japanese ❤🎉🎉

@RealShaun

Ай бұрын

Yes! I was hoping for a shinobi buff, i love using them. Its not enough, but still cool. They will feel way less sluggish. Hopefully givem a bigger buff soon.

@godwinyo5206

Ай бұрын

@@RealShaun they need an interaction with yorishiro like other productions

@RealShaun

Ай бұрын

@@godwinyo5206 that could be cool! I was playing against JD some matches ago and it was so fun to produce 6 shinobis and as soon as JD even popped her head out, i shinshunned into her and obliterated her in seconds haha. With lower cast time this will just get better.

they need to buff Zhuxi.

And mongol not buffed yet? Their trade is mandatory move, to stay competitive against others civ, which makes them vulnerable most of the time

@user-jy3tp8mh7w

Ай бұрын

They buffed mangudai

@neothypp

Ай бұрын

@@user-jy3tp8mh7w excellent ! Mangudai can escort traders, Chase horseman lancer, or raid enemy villagers

@neothypp

Ай бұрын

@@user-jy3tp8mh7w excellent choice, mangudai can escort traders, Poke frontliner, Chase weak unit, raid villagers

3DBee still shouldn’t have been penalized for using an aspect of the game that wasn’t worth fixing for over a year. Also, it’s funny to me that the campaign fix impacts multiplayer games but everyone skips it because it’s in the campaign section.

The changes seem to be reasonable. I'm not sure why there is the HRE nerf to movement speed in early game. As HRE you are already pretty weak there. Also Ottomans need help. Noone is playing them because you get rushed in early game all the time and you really can't do a lot against the stronger civs. The unit production is soooo slow.

@joshuacrooks2891

Ай бұрын

Don’t rely on free military production while trying to fast tech up and actually produce an army 🤷‍♂️

@thegorn

Ай бұрын

Ottoman archers are really good

@DaLoler1

Ай бұрын

It's just the dark age. You'll feel it only if you drush or Vs Mongols but even then not much.

I felt that this patch after 4 months was a make or break for me, I'm going back to aoe 3 butttt when age of mythology comes outttt, ohh god damn you can count me in for them 6v6 battles anyday

I don't get the sheep update. What does it change that it's reduced to 200 food? Having 15 sheeps vs 5 will still be massive. Non sense.

@olegdragora2557

Ай бұрын

Yep. They really, really need to change the algorithm of sheep spawning and guarantee even distribution on the map.

@tarksoyturk2893

Ай бұрын

Reducing the amount of food and adding 2 starting sheep means that you'll have more guaranteed food and less discrepancy. It's not a complete game changer but still a cool change imo.

Ya.. also looking forward to AoM now and hope the game is supported better.

OOTD???

Yo wtf did they not fix Xbox FFA king spy vision?

I dont know whats deal with Relic and AoE4 but it feels like Relic abandon AoE4 and now Forgotten Empires and Worlds Edge do all work and since they balance all 4 games of AoE they dont have enough recourses to do more

@olegdragora2557

Ай бұрын

Zero Empires, the game designer of AoE 4, confirmed a few months ago that Relic is still in charge of all the AoE 4 content, with some outsourcing studios and Forgotten Empires working on the balance.

I think the only real nerf here is Byzantines, it will slow the olive oil spawn for rushes before csstle significantly

This really is not much, hope mud august offers more butndoubt it, maybe what a new unit? Wauw....where are the new civs??

No English MaA nerf. Sad

no ootd change 😞

I feel like we are approaching the too little too late point. Feels like half the patch notes are just quality of life change that could be done years ago.

Glad sheep got nerfed.. lmao jk

I think stonewall bastions are in the campaign.

Stuff like this make me not wanna a game dev

Extremely underwhelming, thought they might have had a fair bit in the works since its been a long time between patches

Disappointing theres nothing for OOTD. Still one of the weakest civs out there.

first ❤

FIRST

Seem a bit meh tbh...😢

HRE litterly unplayable now. WTF...

@thegorn

Ай бұрын

Good I'm sick of them fast castling on buffed gathering of sheep avoiding feudal

No new civs? Like wow 4 months of none stop playing the same 16 civs. Lacking content heavy devs

@christophveraguth2939

Ай бұрын

Lol did you master all the civs? I got a friend who plays only french since the release date of aoe4 and he didnt even master them😂 new civs are coming soon i expect in october as they did the last times

@outcastdeluxe3232

21 күн бұрын

@@christophveraguth2939 I’ve mastered them all got 2 years play time con 3 every season

Zzzz, just gonna switch to a different game at this point, a month delay for this? Hopefully AoM kills the game

English archers unchanged, cba.

@thegorn

Ай бұрын

English have longbows

Extremely underwhelming changes! You have to be ret..rd not to see how broken byz is and how low skill low risk extreme high reward state of english .

@JL-vk1rs

Ай бұрын

cope