There's no way I would have ever had an opportunity to listen to such intellectual discussions if it wasn't for Dr.Peterson posting them here for free. Thank you, you are enriching our lives greatly. Thank you for all your work and generosity. Much appreciated.

@mikefanofmovies

2 жыл бұрын

"Hear the Word of The Lord your God, all peoples and nations; hear Me and give heed: I am The Lord your God, The Creator of Heaven and Earth, of all things seen and unseen, known and unknown. Therefore run not to the left hand, nor to the right, eyes straight forward. For there I am upon My throne. All judgment and principalities are given into My hand; all is Mine. Yes, all you have is Mine, for everything you have I have given you, even to the cattle on a thousand hills. Every living creature is Mine. Every tribe, tongue and nation is Mine. All peoples are given into My hand, says The Lord God of Hosts. Behold, the whole earth and everything in it is Mine. Even every star and planet you see in the heavens, and those not yet discovered, even all of these are Mine. For I have created all things, and through My Son they are and were created. And all that is Mine, I have given to Him. Kneel therefore, bow down and give Him glory! For your life is but a glimmer, a mere drop of rain soon swallowed up by the earth, seen of no more; serving as nourishment for that which grows upon it, which is also soon withered and turned to dust once again; dust to dust, ashes to ashes, a flame brought forth, soon extinguished - so likewise are all those of the flesh. All flesh is given into His hand; whether from death unto life eternal, or from life unto death eternal, all is given into His hand. For you are and were created in fragile flesh, beautifully crafted by the hand of your Father, having been made alive in The Son. In His image you are and were created, in love I created you, placing you in the garden to My own joy... My own beloved who have received of My breath, created by The Father, made for The Son. Beloved little ones, you are Mine, And I have given you to My Son; For all I have is His, and all He has is Mine... And so that which I have created must now return to Me, For I call you back, and I will receive you to Myself once again... Therefore come to Me, return to My love, Abide in My mercy and know Me; live in My Son! And I, even I, shall be your God, and you shall be My people... Six days ending, the seventh at the door, wherein you shall find rest; Behold, even I shall rest with you, for one day in The Lord. Therefore, come now and share in My joy, abide in My love, enter into My rest. For The Way is provided, The Lamb sacrificed, My own beating heart stilled in death, My own blood poured out so you may return to Me. Beloved, the curtain is torn! The way is open! Approach and draw near to Me, hear Me calling! For The Ladder of Heaven is joined to earth, glorified and named above all names! Call out, My children, call on His name, and seek to know Him as He truly is, and you shall be lifted up to glory! For all those who truly know Him know Me also, for The Father and The Son are One, YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH! Beloved, He ALONE is The Way and The Ladder; be joined unto Him, be united with Me!... Glory to Glory, by Grace of Grace, Immanu El! Yet I hear the cries of this wicked age, says The Lord. I have looked upon all these atrocities committed by man. I have seen how he murders the innocent without cause, how he oppresses the poor and the needy and cares not for the widow or the fatherless. I have beheld the hearts of all men. I know every thought and every intention; I am aware of all his plans, of every evil scheme he devises against his neighbor. Thus I have declared the day and appointed the season... A day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, bitter sorrows and great fear, days of judgment! RECOMPENSE FOR ALL NATIONS! The Great and Dreadful Day of The Lord, the Day of Slaughter, great sorrow and bitter tears!... It is finished. Therefore, thus says The Lord: No more shall I withhold My hand, nor stay silent, no more shall I wait. The day is done, and the sun is setting upon this age of men. For My anger is kindled and burns in the heat of My wrath; My indignation has come to the full and must be poured out!... Like a dark storm building upon the horizon brings foreboding, as a great torrent inundates a city and running waters quickly overtake a town, like fierce waves beat back the shore or a raging sea capsizes a ship, as the power of the great whirlwind causes widespread devastation, so shall the indignation of The Lord be! Behold, I had given mankind dominion over that which is Mine, even over all My good earth and every living thing upon it, and this is how My own children repay Me?! WITH SORROWS?! What do you mean by this, O sons of men?! Where are your hearts?! For you have endeavored to rip My image from your chests, as you cast away every blessing with which I had blessed you, feeding it to the dogs! Behold, even the pearl, of which you were to cherish, have you taken and smashed upon the rocks, shattering all hope, breaking My heart in pieces! O sons of men, what do you mean by this?! Why now do you go out to pervert your ways, as one with no heart and no mind at all?! For that which I behold in your hearts is evil upon evil, darkness, veiled darkness and vain deceits! Even now, you devise plans to utterly destroy yourselves! Sons of men, what do you mean by these things?! How is it I bless you, and you return evil for good and death for life, even to the destroying of all things holy, even to the innocent, MURDERING MY LITTLE ONES WHILE STILL IN THE WOMB?! Have you no love in your hearts at all?! Have you no compassion for these I have given you?! DEAD GENERATION! MULTITUDES OF CONDEMNED AND DYING PEOPLES! Therefore hear Me, you wayward and most wicked generation: Call on your men in authority, bring out your riches, bow down and call upon your idols! Call upon your gods and possessions to save you, if they are able! Bring out your weapons of war, encompass the holy city round about, and seek to fulfill every evil desire of your black hearts; yes, come out and beat upon your chests and shake your fists at Heaven! The kingdoms of men are finished! Judgment reigns and it shall fall hard upon your backs, until every last one of you is broken or blotted out! Says The Lord God. Children, I had sent to you Grace! Oh most beloved of My heart, My created ones, I am your own Father! Even I have loved you, sacrificing My own Son, spilling My own blood which runs in His veins! I LAID MYSELF UPON THE ALTAR! Sorrows, most bitter sorrows, such enmity and tears! Your Shepherd weeps for you! I take no pleasure at all in your destruction! Yet you choose death, you choose death! OH BELOVED, YOU CHOOSE DEATH! Estranged children, you are far from Me, returning to Me hate though I Myself have loved you. Little children, return to Me that I may heal you! Receive of Me and partake of My supper; receive of this bread I have broken for you, drink of this wine I have poured out for you! STOP BREAKING MY HEART! Tears, bitter and deep sorrows, wailing in all the earth. The day is far spent, night is here; all lampstands removed from their places, all candlesticks put out, all light gathered and taken; darkness, thick darkness spreads forth across the land. Behold, you are undone and given up to judgment. For only those who receive of grace shall abide in it, and only those who are accepted shall be taken; the rest left to dwell in judgment, choosing not to escape from underneath its shadow. For it has fallen and shall be very heavy, a weight which can not be moved, a weight awash in tears and blood and much death, a burden of heavy sorrows... Reap, O Son of Man, reap! Lay the axe to the trees, level the forest and burn the branches! Uproot and destroy and judge the earth; judge and destroy! Refine and uplift until the Day is done, says The Lord God. Therefore thus says The Lord, yes I, The Everlasting who is from everlasting to everlasting; I AM: Repent, and give Me glory! Embrace and kiss The Holy One of Israel! His name is YahuShua HaMashiach, King of kings, Lord of lords, My Son in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him! Eat of His body and drink of His blood! My children, give up this life and depart from all This sin, forsake this world and now walk in MY ways, And you shall surely escape all these things, lifted up to glory!... From Glory to Glory, from Grace to Grace... Life without end."

@justdoit83388

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikefanofmovies who/what are you quoting please.

@mikefanofmovies

2 жыл бұрын

@@justdoit83388 Let me know you found His Word brother, youtube deletes my comments. In my profile is a video, a shortcut to the Letters of God to this last generation: 'The Volumes of Truth'

@justdoit83388

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikefanofmovies I'm not a 'brother', but thanks I knew it wasn't in the Bible.

@mikefanofmovies

2 жыл бұрын

@@justdoit83388"Yet understand this: It is not My will that each one you meet leave contented or reveal their gratitude, only that the message be placed in their hands. For I am The Lord, and My Word always convicts. Therefore let all things be separated, Let all choose and make their decision; Let the first harvest be separated, bundled and taken, And let the rest be left to be purged by fire... For you, My sons, are sent to divide The harvest, not to bring it in... For again I say to you, Many are called, yet few are chosen... Says The Lord."

I have so much gratitude that we have such rich and stimulating conversations such as this readily available for free.

@MariaPerez-uv8mm

2 жыл бұрын

unbelievable, right :-)

@IlIllllIllIllIllIl

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy

@sheilac5319

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Feeling pretty damned fortunate to have access to these videos, which elevate my knowledge of ideas/thinkers I've not had the opportunity to study (spot the older learner), together with my ability to think and frame my ideas more sensically. I notice that I invariably gravitate to Dr. JBP's summations of what's being expressed even when I'm properly following his guests' contributions to the discussion. His ability to sort of "rein in" and qualify the multiple levels of perspective relevant to a given question, and to articulate his thought process in a compelling and accessible manner as he does so, have been invaluable to me. I've no doubt that he's also saved me at times from lying awake trying to do this for myself. That said, I also believe that Dr. JBP's particular way of expressing ideas, from his speech characteristics to his authenticity, are what make him so compelling to today's youth.

@chrisc1257

2 жыл бұрын

... but it's ALL USELESS.

@cirios9594

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisc1257 try listening

The revelation that Christ was both God and a carpenter is something I just picked up from this episode. The God of creation was revealed in Christ, who came as one who fashioned objects into purposeful tools of utilization. That’s a rather amazing concept. 4 years in seminary, and a lifetime of following Christ and I never thought of this before. This is why dialogue and discussion about the Scripture and culture is so critical. Thank you, Professor Peterson.

@nigelsouthworth5577

2 жыл бұрын

Four years... was it not evident from day one?

@bren394

2 жыл бұрын

@@nigelsouthworth5577 Well obviously not Nigel, or he wouldn't have made this comment... was THAT not evident? 🙄

@tomgreene2282

2 жыл бұрын

What I find a little odd is that in four years this was not an object of study...it is an amazing story....who was Christ for you before this realization?

@TheRealistInvestor

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoahsUniverse there isn’t much disturbing history within the story of the Gospels. The news of Christ within the Gospels is a solution to the disturbing history of humanity

@TheRealistInvestor

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomgreene2282 I have been a devout follower for 10 years now (including my seminary time). I’m amazed this was never a course of learning, but now it’s given me a new Avenue of study!

This conversation is a bit above my “pay grade”, but it’s extremely interesting. I've never been so enlightened by a conversation that I can barely understand. Would have to watch it again, just to come to grips with some of the words and concepts. And this conversation is more than welcomed Dr's.

@TP-om8of

2 жыл бұрын

You should ask for a raise

@conservativegamer9047

2 жыл бұрын

@T P Haha! Good answer! @Sherod Parkinson Yeah, I'm with you, man. I wish I had Cliff's Notes on some of the authors they reference in conversation in front of me while I listen. I'd have multiple tabs open on my browser if I wasn't listening to this while doing chores around the house.

@JordanBPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

It's above everyone's pay grade mate. But good work wrestling with it.

@brendond.3158

2 жыл бұрын

Good one. If one can read.between the lines...Nice.🌎

@Naghmara

2 жыл бұрын

It gets better if you start making your way through JBPs expanded reading list. I've been at it since 2017 and I'm proud to say I'm familiar with at least half the stuff they talked about. 😁

Professor, that romantic adventure you describe of the pursuit of truth and how we need to sell that to young people is in effect at this very moment. Since your first book 12 Rules for Life, I have been quite obsessed with this idea. I'm a young male studying business at UBC. Many of the friends I recently made and I have been able to connect over what you teach. Your students are everywhere Professor and we are listening.

@mofo1853

2 жыл бұрын

As a 45 year old man, this warms my heart. I’m am also a student in this, but it’s the youth, it’s you, that will steer the course of the culture. Best wishes.

@grisha12

2 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson is like more literate and down to earth version of Tyler Derden, with his own fight club and followers all over the world

@Gallowglass7

2 жыл бұрын

Very happy to hear that, myself include. All the best ladies and gentlemen.

@jamesmcnicholas2554

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.👏. Even an oldie like me has been inspired and I find myself gradually better armed to address issues even forcing them into the open.... I hope these guys understand JPs influence and hard as it is to accept they have to up the game, of sorts...

@tinasepo

2 жыл бұрын

We are everywhere! Greetings from Greece!

I'm loving the speed at which you are releasing content Dr Peterson. It is a blessing in my life

@florianfasel3291

2 жыл бұрын

agreed!

@spinnakerthegreat2612

2 жыл бұрын

Despite being a fan, I think JBP has added nothing new whatsoever to the discussion since his return. He was providing insights and content; now he turned into David Rubin, ie a podcaster… frustrating. Biblical series were amazing, new, refreshing etc. Now he just repeats old stuff.

@lonewolf6327

2 жыл бұрын

@@spinnakerthegreat2612 I disagree completely... I would argue that his content now is arguably more diverse than it was prior to his health issues. Before he mostly did interviews battling mainstream media about topics relating identity politics, and did a few lecture series. Now, he does interviews with variety of guests from different fields, so we can hear discussions on topics he didn't elaborate much before. Yes, he repeats some things sometimes, but he also discusses plenty of new things, plus we can hear the opinion of his guests on these things. There were plenty of things in this particular interview that weren't mentioned or discussed on his lectures.

39 yrs old new contractor in concrete and masonry... if you only knew how much your words and knowledge has helped me maneuver this world...thank-you. And yes. We are listening

The fact that we live in a time when this discussion is essentially free and available to billions is remarkable

@cameroncallahan3755

2 жыл бұрын

@@edz1624 rewind 100 years ago and see how much harder it was, shoot, 15 years

When are you going to resume the Biblical series, Dr. Peterson? I have found it to be the most informative content of yours.

@SirKobrias

2 жыл бұрын

I also miss the Biblical series

@BethanyHaileMusic

2 жыл бұрын

I am thrilled to have any new material from him after all he’s been through with his health. It’s a miracle that Dr. Peterson is even alive. I’ll bet he is steeping his thoughts on the Biblical texts in the wake of what’s been happening worldwide the past couple years. That being said, I would love to see him resume the Biblical series as well!

@nooncecares

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear you discuss these things with John Lennox and Stephen Meyer. John a mathematician, Stephen philosophy and Science. I think that would be a great conversation

@Ordep1313

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@last1000

2 жыл бұрын

@Leo Mulgrew lmao

Jordan - your calling is to help save western civilization. Its a huge burden but you are doing a great job. Keep up the good work.

@JamecBond

2 жыл бұрын

He can't even save Canada from bill c16

@martinburrows6844

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamecBond at least he tried, did you ?

@lounaannajung4454

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamecBond that's why the comment said "help save" he's neither expected nor obliged to save the world all by himself. But he's helping to save each and everyone of us and we will hopefully save the world in our own ways. Wish you luck on your mission!

@JamecBond

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinburrows6844 oh buddy, if only you knew how much iv done.

@JamecBond

2 жыл бұрын

@@lounaannajung4454 he cant even save his own feminist hedonist of a daughter and you think he can save ANYTHING? Let alone the world.

I am 76 years old and I find hope in these dialogues . Thank you!

This was amazing and the ending gives me hope that the Oxbridge tradition can liberate those who are too intimidated to speak. I know I certainly benefited from it when I was there much more than my time in the American system.

Sir, please interview John Lennox. He was the mathematics professor at Oxford and he's very accomplished theologian and debater. I think you'd both enjoy learning about each other

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

I hate maths

@drakelagon8595

2 жыл бұрын

@@Io-Io-Io You hate Maths because you don't understand it. Once you get every understanding of what is what in maths, you will be solving mathematic problems within seconds. I am talking from personal experience.

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

@@drakelagon8595 I could do it as l am very precise and wanted to understand not just apply rules- unlike the huge majority of people who didn't care about the 'why'. BUT it is not the way l think. It's not the lense l see the world through. I didn't like going down that road. It always felt like 'a waste of time' to me. Of course it can be fun once you master it, but still- what for?

@judeemeraldbelle7545

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, John Lennox would be A GREAT interview! He's so deep and profound, yet simple. I would also recommend an interview with ROB SKIBA who is working on a tv drama called SEED..... He's an incredible theologian looking at Synchronized, Biblically Endorsed, Extra-Biblical Texts that correlate with and unravel lesser understood ancient threads and foundations in Genesis... these have a profound effect on today's interpretation, how we look to heaven and the future in these strange days.

@linusloth4145

2 жыл бұрын

John Lennox, please

I’d love to hear a discussion between Jordan and Dr. John Lennox.

@justinbauk1026

2 жыл бұрын

I have been posting this same comment for years to no avail

@etc6615

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

@zachgauldin3588

2 жыл бұрын

Especially since Lennox has debated Dawkins!

@palmtree9815

2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!!

@beeblebrox82

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, would be wonderful!

It’s weird how far thought stimulating conversations like this are from the core of our current mainstream culture.

Jordan has mentioned on several occasions he’s sitting with Islamic scholars soon and I’m really looking forward to that. An investigation and abstraction of the Abrahamic religions from him could be very interesting!

@usmansheikh4304

2 жыл бұрын

I feel he has neglected having a scholarly discussion with Muslim scholars representing the mainstream Islamic scholarly tradition. The talk with Hamza Yusuf was cancelled and we have no idea if it will ever happen. It's unfortunate that while Dr Peterson is engaging with scholars and scholarly individuals from diverse traditions, but a discussion with serious scholars from within the Islamic tradition is being neglected.

@shawnmalloy4339

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmansheikh4304 Maybe, at the end of the day, if you have one faith narrative you have them all...

@richardpotter6313

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmansheikh4304 Perhaps it's because, at this time in history anyway, other various traditions don't chop off people's heads for their beliefs. China excluded but they just shoot them.

@usmansheikh4304

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardpotter6313 @Richard Potter that's a very weird way of putting things. I know of no entity called "tradition" walking around randomly chopping heads off. Of course, people following various traditions have indeed done this and some still do it. If you do not know of them, then that is reflective of your ignorance. Devout Buddhists in Myanmar (they follow a different sect of Buddhism than that of Dalai Lama) have committed the aforementioned act in the ongoing conflict. Hindus in Gujrat and other pogroms of Muslims in India have done this and continue to do so (ie lynchings by RSS Hindus). In Rwanda, devout Catholics, some of their priests, lured people to various locations promising safety, only to then kill them. Members of Bashar al Assad's fighting force, who follow the Alawite tradition, have in the ongoing civil war killed civilians in a cruel manner. Jewish settlers in occupied lands, who follow a conservative tradition of Judaism, have brutally murdered locals every now and then. These are just a few modern examples. Lastly, that some people who follow particular faith traditions who have committed such acts does not magically follow that they just opened their scripture one bright sunny day and went "ah see, the verse says I need to chop off heads, so off I go!" What about the many more people who follow these traditions and who do not commit such acts and, in fact, oppose them? Anyway, enough said. I refuse to believe that Jordan Peterson subscribes to your, basically, child-like manner of framing things.

@richardpotter6313

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmansheikh4304 The genocide in Rwanda consisted of a tribe gassed up by the papacy, Hutu, complete with the propaganda machine, the subtle progression and the arming of the jesuits. The Tutsi were predominately Sabbath keeping protestants. Fact. Heretics by the 'churches' and jes orders standards. Few realize Islam was also a product of Rome in 612ad. A band of robbers and assassins , with some money and the go ahead from the papacy went a long way back then. Still does ...and with Uncle Frank's foot in the door (which that's ALL it is) on climate justice, you'll soon see even worse abominations that those. All the heads of the religions of the world meet with them and sell their own people out.. all.. They sacrifice their own for money...and to live.. All our wars are planned.. THOSE heads know it.. The leaders know it.. Everybody gets rich,, except the commoner. We're fed to the machine. Our last 6 presidents were jesuit trained. 6 of the 9 Sup CT Js, about half the House and Senate ...all with a mere 17% of the US being Cath. Our education system, news, banking, and even the entertainment industry all controlled by the same. We are that earth beast in scripture who gives power back to said sea beast, they who received the seemingly deadly wound in scripture, by Napoleon btw, at the very same year France accredited us a sovereign nation, 1798. A world religiopolitical system SUPERPOWER. Rome was the fourth beast kingdom in Daniel and still on deck when the books are opened. The only reason they haven't totally wiped out virtually every other belief system ...yet, but one, is because they all have signed accords and caved agreeing to unity. The one has also given in but there are a small remnant who have seperated themselves from the main conference and still adhere to the principals outlined in the Book. They pulled that crap during the dark ages saying let us reason together, let's have peace, THEN slaughtered every opponent. women, babies and all. There's nothing new under the SUN...worship. They're pushing the control narrative under the guise of this horrible illness ...for our safety when it's not. It's all about one particular day of rest, surveillance, control and removing paper money from the planet to track every action and penny. Novas orders seclorum ...and why on God's green earth is that, prescriptions (sorcery- pharmakia in Greek) and the law (which like medicine, we practice, in other words, no warranty) in Latin, a dead language? People worldwide overall, who had the ability to do something about it) have been made complacent. Notice all the helpless countries are one big rubble pile. That, or all shot out from western medicine. Gates actually said on TV that successful inoculation from disease would reduce populations. How can that happen unless their sterile, dead or. ..same sex attracted? For real. All seems applicable these days. And why are Saudi human rights violations so prevalent today, worst in any civilized country, chopping the heads off any dissenter, even having the religious police in malls looking for women with no hijab , other than because we get oil from em...? In the name of democracy, lol, we'd melt the place if they didn't bring most of what we want to the table.

I feel smarter just by listening to this video. I probably understood 50% of it. Maybe next time I'll do 60%.

@Illlium

2 жыл бұрын

After this episode I feel as if Dr. Peterson is my Gepetto and Fairy in one, covering me with stripes of skin not unlike a Frankensteinian creation of a Terminator. Very rich content, had to rewind back multiple times to fully digest it.

@Snake-filledChimp

2 жыл бұрын

Was just about to make the same comment, but figured I'd just give you a like and comment instead. This was a tough one to fully comprehend - once they get talking about metaphysics and making obscure academic references I find myself rewinding an awful lot. So, you have plenty of company.

@bryanmatthews3797

2 жыл бұрын

Same my dude but we gotta put the effort to pause and research when they speak of things we don't know.

@tonyshaw7420

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree 👍

@Ak-qj1lf

2 жыл бұрын

I am here listening to this finding quite difficult to understand, I haven’t been to university but I do like to listen to academic conversation of current affairs. I enjoy listening to Peterson especially when he’s battling very calmly to express sometimes reality.

For 10 years after completing my undergraduate degree I thought I got lucky because I never adopted an identitarian mindset. I assumed that the campus culture was changing just as I was about to graduate (2010). But looking back, I understand that the identity politics game was in full force even before I arrived. What kept me whole was a deep commitment to religion and traditional law. Those things are my very self. The students who lacked that commitment... well, they gave in to social justice.

@aqui7744

2 жыл бұрын

I went through the same experience in college 15 years ago and also was kept whole due to my deep religious beliefs that are the foundation of the core of my being. It’s still keeping me whole to this day.

@guitar0wnz

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was lucky having not adopted an ideology but then I realized I was exactly one of those people that just replaced ordinary religion with a scientism ideology (like a militant atheist I guess) and was not half as knowledgeable about my own beliefs as I thought

@bettermanchannel770

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain the concept of traditional law?

@answermelove

2 жыл бұрын

I ran to the library to C.S. Lewis 's writings. They shored up my faith and moral stance as an OTA recently chased from what was becoming a cultish church group due to violent behavior being covered over with a cover not of God's Spirit. I joined a G.K. Chesterton Club set up by some devout people and their fellowship helped, too. An OTA, I abhorred the Marxists with their crystal balls, telling us we white religious people were doomed to become a minority and rightfully so, in our multi race nation by 2025...all in a Catholic College. For the religious there was Liberation Theology slathered thickly like over sweet frosting on an underlying stench of Marxism, Communism, even Nazism. The schisms of isms was all over the place. I held my head high and took some Bs, but graduated with honors in English and English literature with a near minor in theatre arts. Actually, I had the highest grade point average among my English major peers, but was not even invited to my honors convocation. My Math teacher stopped me in the hall to congratulate me, causing me great confusion. Later my mail box was stuffed with the paperwork, the awards and a phi delta kappa pin. It is a struggle, even for older students, to stand up to the crazies who treat one like they are 'other' and need to be punished for walking in love and standing up for morality and faith in God. I am glad you relied on your belief system and traditional or natural law, as some call it. Congratulations. You are an amazing person and I am glad you found Jordan and his awesome podcasts.

@TheReaper569

2 жыл бұрын

It must be rough. It was for me being traditionalist in an environment where people sought meaning in sex, drugs and sucking up to ideological professor.

Please let me say that at 70 yrs. old, I am deeply grateful for this conversation and will look for the next episode on this topic.

Fascinating interview. I found myself wishing at several points that Peterson would just let James and Nigel finish their thought before jumping in.

Thank you for saving my life and sanity every day, Mr. Peterson!

This conversation was so invigorating and genuinely humble in its pursuit of goodness--I have never before finished a podcast and cried because this kind of intellectual and theological discourse came to an end. Thank you gentlemen, for a wonderful exploration of truth using the faculties of reason into faith. This was a truly inspiring and encouraging group of thinkers to hear.

@antlures845

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing humility warms my soul

@jimicunningable

2 жыл бұрын

You believe in invisible sky daddies. You ARE NOT WORTHY of speaking of reason.

@jasperstone383

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimicunningable I am not to these fellows intellectual and reasoning calibur, and I can admit that. But if you are elevating yourself to be superior in reason by judging others (which I doubt in your proclivaty to assume that people admiring this discourse believe in a God, which is not necessarily evident), perhaps you should look at the origins of the concept of reason. Or look into how much you worship your smartphone and the many-breasted Internet mother before you decide to play troll.

@alexandros6433

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimicunningable do you only believe in that what you can see? In thst case of naivity, you're also a believer

@alexandros6433

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately very incomplete without the consideration of scholasticism and very deceitful always when the origins of beliefs are brought up in conversation. Peterson lacks knowledge of ancient religions or is very poor and tends to rapidly draw some misleading conclusions upon it. When he does seem to have a perception or understanding of that matters to which he tries to go back it's nothing new but he's just reelaborating jungian conceptions, just saying, this im not criticizing. Only when he ventures to unexplored territory and draw conclusions when there are a lot, but a lot of scholars that wrote about thise matters deeply. In one of his videos he even mentioned the awfully wrong, outdated and clear fruit of the spirit of the time, a lower mass spirit, book called the mushroom and the cross. And then in another video he cries, and this particularly I do not criticize, having discovered the faith, christian by the way, but his knowledge of Christianism seem very poor and secular. And this is what I criticize, drawing conclusions with unsufficient knowledge. Verbigratia: how he assumes thr origin of monotheism in this video and moves on taking his assumptions for true. Besides that, I really appreciate Peterson in general.

I love watching your journey Jordan. Thank you for being so vulnerable while being so public. You are doing such a service to our young men and society as a whole. May God continue to bless you brother.

I am a former agnostic and I have "the mind" of a person who tend to think things deep. I use to have this complicated and elaborate understanding of all sort of things hence I ended up being an agnostic. Now I am a Christian for 6 years and I promised to let go of that complicated minset cause it really spiralled out of control and I missed a lot of good things in life. In some sense it is true that ignorance is a bliss and I found peace of mind in not constantly thinking too much but on the other hand there is this longing for that feeling of getting lost on that deep thoughts and that is when I saw the videos of Dr. Peterson. I was so amused watching him intelligently talk about his take on many things and my hope went up to relearn the things I have learned before but of course with care and guidance from the Holy Spirit. I don't know the man but I genuinely respect him especially now that he is getting close in encountering God on a really personal level. I pray that he will get there soon. Nonetheless Mr. Peterson is a great guy, he is genuine and his heart is good. More power to you sir God bless you. 😊

These podcasts are a miracle of the modern world. For years I have seen the internet as a blight on people, but this is something so truly special.

@UAGoWSuplexer

2 жыл бұрын

What are u talking about kid, this is a waste of time kid

This guy makes me cry more than my ex. Thank you all for the conversation. Delightfully enlightening.

@Selu2023

2 жыл бұрын

Aww hahahah me too man, I feel 😅

@paulclifton0691

2 жыл бұрын

Aw man, sometimes when he words things with the perfect succinctness, it just makes me burst into overjoyed tears. It’s like I’ve been seeking words for weeks or months or years, and he finally crystallizes my feelings in a split second! What a release those moments are…

@gretelhance

2 жыл бұрын

Like to cry?

Jordan Peterson will one day be remembered as a genius. Holy man amongst us. I started following him when I was in Brazil, then I moved to Toronto and I had the pleasure to go to one of his talks. Brilliant. he is a treasure.

Excellent. Thank God for these men

Holy cow. Tee hee. I was just settling in and you're saying goodbye. Two hours disappeared. This was beautiful. All these talks are beautiful on many levels. Thanks, JBP and team. Jordan in person is our next hope.

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MORE. and you can be one of them

@alexandros6433

2 жыл бұрын

Hope on what exactly

Thank you Dr. Peterson for these wonderful conversations. As an undergrad student, these are the types of discussions I long for. Or hunger for I should say. Although the ignorance is rampant on my university campus, there is still hope I believe. Especially with men like you opening up the conversations we need to be having. So again, thank you so much! Man oh man I love learning.

@brendond.3158

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious..Schooled by the School Master. Dr. Peterson.

This is what I'm watching on a Saturday night! So awesome!! I am so thankful for Jordan Peterson!❤❤❤

The density of places where this discussion could branch off into other lengthy discussions is astounding. So many times during viewing it I wanted to say "Stop! Let's drill down into that idea...I want to know more about it or learn what evidence led you to that conclusion." Yet I don't think my life expectancy would allow for covering it all. This is like a dessert. Too rich!

Brilliant-brilliant-brilliant! So many of us have been starving for conversation as intelligent as this one! There is so much here, I will listen again mid-week . I cannot thank you enough for your podcasts! Ilook forward to Mondays now!

Whoa! He’s back! He’s hitting his stride!

He's BACK! God bless Dr Peterson...i hope he's realised finally who he's working for... and thus why the 'world' attacks him...most influential figure for the drive of Truth, Love and connection Christianity for centuries.

the Power of Freedom of Speech laides and gentlemen, thank you for this wonderful conversation

KZread is such a toxic place sometimes. Then, you stumble across this. brilliant.

@Biblestudies658

2 жыл бұрын

Even the community isn't toxic

John Lennox mathematician at Oxford would be a great interview

@jamesmoore6872

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Then David berlinski and maybe some william lane craig.

@linusloth4145

2 жыл бұрын

John Lennox, please

@alexandros6433

2 жыл бұрын

To treat what topics/matters?

@NT-ih7ex

2 жыл бұрын

Also Dr. Luke Barnes

@jamesmcnicholas2554

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please Jordan, Great Suggestion👏

So refreshing to engage a dialogue that contains serious Christian intellectual thought. Thanks Jordan!

Why am I in tears 😢. Humbled to the core.

Dear Dr Peterson, you have influenced my life soo much to be a better version of myself....i cannot thank you enough....much love from INDIA....

@JordanBPeterson

2 жыл бұрын

Go you.

@gamebiote

2 жыл бұрын

@@JordanBPeterson omg....you actually replied....im in tears.... thank you soo much...my best wishes to you ....♥️♥️ Much love

This discussion reminded me of my own intellectual/spiritual understanding/inner dialogues of the creation of the universe and why. I am in disbelief that I can watch these brilliant men at home. My life is enriched because of it. Thank you.

Dr. Peterson, Thousands upon thousands would forever value any contribution you might offer in reference to the Gospel of Thomas (Nag Hammadi) Thank you - Elizabethe

I agree that the journey with God is an exciting adventure. Sometimes when I hear about young people leaving the Christian church I think that they are leaving a religious community, not God. Once you have met God you never want to leave. The journey with God brings so much joy, excitement, hope and meaning to life. Who wouldn’t want that? It’s what every human wants. Thank you for this great podcast that discussed many important topics worth thinking about. Keep going.

The gathering of wise men having a fruitful conversation that will benefit many.

@gretelhance

2 жыл бұрын

Wisdom of men is foolishness to God

@yngsjanet

2 жыл бұрын

@@gretelhance is it not God who gives wisdom to those who seek it?

These conversations are rapidly becoming next level. I love it. 🔊 ❤️ Thank You Dr.Petersen

When Jordan Peterson mentioned his dream about the positive attributes of men in his life and the ancerstral spirit, he then continued to speak about how this spirit can embody us in moments of deep philosophical conversation (because perhaps it is a spitit guiding us to truth). I felt for a second I completely understood what he was saying and it brought me to tears. I couldnt help but feel gratitude for this person - who was in my eyes embodying that spirit in that very moment.

@furleysbrain

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that's deep!

"Depathologize." Wow! Peterson, you've just given me the reason to get up and do my job as well as possible every day for the rest of my life and do it better each day than I did the day before.

@brendond.3158

2 жыл бұрын

Hilarious....Also thank these 4 Great Institutions (Oxford, Cambridge , Harvard and Yale) built under ther British Crown and mist of the world"$ Great Heads of State of States and Law enforcement Administrators In all our world'$ Nations.. .Great work Dr.. Peterson🍎

@tonyar952

2 жыл бұрын

Is that really all you needed?

@SH-xw1cd

2 жыл бұрын

Touche, Tony. It's a variety of factors, and this was one.

These discussions are enriching, engaging, and are the highlight of my week. Thank you very much for having and posting them. Hail lobster!

"Play" is what came out of that discussion for me. The importance of being able to explore, push, test, cede and interact. These things have, of late, been severely cut ✂️away by the state and our educational institutions.

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

feminism at work...

"Is there any difference between the mind body problem and the god and material world problem?" I had to stop the video to listen to this question again. I was working for a company and on the assembly line we would run into problems. It was a fairly new field. I found out real quick that problems don't get solved because people don't ask the right questions. I truly believe there is something divine about consciousness. This is the type of question that really makes you think.

@GuidetteExpert

2 жыл бұрын

I think the consciousness comes first and the material is created out of it! Like magic!

Doc, please come to Brazil. You have no idea how many lives you've changed around here. God bless you and your family.

"the enemy is us" - wonderful, I can do something about that! So grateful to you all - thank you!

The most useful mind of my time

@shadowlinks99

2 жыл бұрын

@Jorge Briln Do you mostly categorize humans by their race and gender, regardless of their intellectual forte?

I'll put it simply. Whenever I meet someone who values Christianity verses someone who doesn't there's a huge difference in the way they treat me. I'm not saying everyone should worship the bible word for word but from my experience, religious people are not only more polite but better and happier people by far.

@dbalgp1047

2 жыл бұрын

I like very much how you frame it, "values Christianity." I think that makes a truer, broader statement, and squares with my observations. "Many who appear to be without are within."

Another classic, which I will need to watch a few times! Thank you.

the level of intellectual conversation that goes on in this video is making me laugh. my mind feels like fireworks. i promise i'm not high

@paulclifton0691

2 жыл бұрын

It is an awesome feeling of high-ness from the brilliance and depth of thought, word, and human condition! No drugs needed! 😋

@advocate1563

2 жыл бұрын

you can get high on ideas x

@DC-gh6dy

2 жыл бұрын

Its weird reading this comment while high lol

@alexandros6433

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, reaching thw higher point when one of the guests misinterprets Aristotle claims, making a mistake that no scholar should be allowed, and moves on

@Illlium

2 жыл бұрын

I'm high right now laughing at the similarity of feelings towards the discussion, but I definitely wasn't laughing when I was listening to it. This was fireworks like leveling a couple of decrepit old buildings fireworks. No doubt stimulating and productive, not really titillating. Then again I don't laugh at fireworks either, it's more spectating in awe.

“Metaphysics buries its undertakers” - Genius.

@rareword

2 жыл бұрын

“A writer who says that there is no absolute truth, or that all truth is ‘merely relative,’ is asking you not to believe him. So don’t.” Roger Scruton

So thankful your continuing your work !!

This is what we need to hear more often...wonderful!

The reason we wrestle with God is due to the desires of the flesh which is contrary to the Spirit. Galatians 5:16-25

@carlmorgan8452

2 жыл бұрын

Finally some truth 🙌👏🙏😌

Highly recommend getting Dr. John Lennox on your show Dr. Peterson. His debate against Richard Dawkins was quite eye opening for me.

@jamesmoore6872

2 жыл бұрын

John Lennox believes in God because of what is in his rational mind but knows God because of what is in his heart.

Love the conversation with these professors. No idea of what they are talking about most of the time, but still engaged for 2 hours.....the 'golden thread' works in mysterious ways ..

Tks so much for releasing such beautiful conversation to us all.

God bless all of us, amen 🙏🙏🙏

@paullazarro4295

2 жыл бұрын

Bla, bla, bla.

Looking forward to this. I’m also reminded of how much I would love to see you in conversation with NT Wright at some point. I think that could be an incredibly fruitful and insightful discussion too.

@mrdeansgatemadaboutmanches4395

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

comment AFTERWARDS

@danstirling7386

2 жыл бұрын

@@Io-Io-Io Having seen the discussion...I would still very much like him to have a conversation with NT Wright.

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

@@danstirling7386 Fine

@Io-Io-Io

2 жыл бұрын

@@danstirling7386 l don't mind. Dawkins would be nice too

A remarkable uplifting conversation. Thank you.

Truly, its humility that leads us to God. We can't help but believe that there's something better out there.

@gazagxrlx2974

2 жыл бұрын

Really? The concept of God as never struck me. Especially since no one can agree on who their God is. Not even believers of the same faith. Also, if this life is all there is, that's OK with me. I don't think there needs to be better/or worse for the matter. Why is it so for you?

Thank you Dr. Peterson for sparking my interest and challenging me to think more by sharing these wonderful discussions with me and the world.

@Selu2023

2 жыл бұрын

I love your comment because unfortunately a lot of his opposition's think that his fans are angry and emotional immature illogical people. When clearly it's the opposite 😅

@bettermanchannel770

2 жыл бұрын

He has afforded me the opportunity to explore the concepts of life and more importantly myself!! Very grateful

@gretelhance

2 жыл бұрын

Just rest & trust Don't complicate

Thank you again Professor🙏. Your lectures and podcats have helped me immensely, not only to get by each day with something to look forward to, but also as a way to educate myself and gain understanding of things which are so rarely spoken of in todays climate. I am looking forward to the announcement (if there ever is such thing.) of the tour dates regarding Beyond Order, whenever that might be. God bless

@nikolasilomaki6885

2 жыл бұрын

He is planning to go on tour in January, he talked about it on his interview with The Telegraph (phenomenal interview by the way.)

Looking forward to the continuation of this conversation. Thanks Dr.Peterson!

Collaborative inquiry can never be overdone. I am a 60 y.o. female farmer and I am taking notes and replaying this and many other subject discussions and I LOVE it.

@user-ln3jo9ev1b

2 жыл бұрын

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Beautiful, just beautiful. That exchange of truth was sooo good.

Thank you, I enjoyed this conversation.

Thank you gentlemen for sharing such an interesting conversation

Very stimulating conversation! Wonderful! Thank you

JBP thank you for being the light in the darkness

A few things. 1) Joker, released in 2019 is an excellent exploration of the rise of evil and how it can generate sympathetic and passionate supporters. It's a phenomenally prescient film. The "dancing in the streets as society is burning" made me think of it. 2) the tower of babel story is, I feel becoming more relevant. Our language is being confounded because to do anything useful in society you need to learn a specialised subset of language that only those in your profession know. And since every profession these days is built on software, the software itself is driving the understanding of those who are practitioners. Bugs can be adopted as truths because the mathematics is so complex that experts aren't validating their output because they can't realistically do so. It's quite a terrifying thing that's going on and folks have no idea it's happening. 3) I have become enamoured with the "animating spirit" metaphor.

These videos are the education of my mind and my spirit. Thank you Jordan.

I really miss people like this in my life to have deep conversations with. I know I could keep up with these professors

Thank you Dr. Peterson for giving us access to your fascinating discussion. My faith in Oxford and Cambridge has been (at least in part!) restored. Thank you Dr. Biggar and Dr. Orr for having the courage to share your thoughts, knowledge and ideas with us. We are listening and we are watching very carefully.

I’m so unbelievably thankful to listen to these for free! Greetings from a german philosophy student EDIT: automatic subtitles would help me a lot to look up some specific words I don’t know! EDIT 2: 46:55 I really like the idea of panpsychism... it’s a really old idea. The hunter and gatherers believed that everything has a soul. Which would make sense to me. They connected to the spirits in trance like states (look up shamanism). I think we’re lacking that direct experience of being connected. That’s why “Nordic” bands like Wardruna or Heilung are so popular. They dig into that old wisdom. Everything that’s existing, not only us humans, is striving for perfection, that’s why there is so much beauty in nature. I think Aristotle and Carl Rogers also had a similar philosophy. If more people would take an animistic philosophy, we would also have no problem with environmental destruction. Why do we think that only humans carry that spark of god? It’s in everything. EDIT 3: Why are the big institutions like the church and university failing so hard to reach young people? Many of them are in a stupid social justice war that leads nowhere good. It’s not nearly as bad as in Canada here in Germany, but it’s the same pattern. My father and you, Mr. Peterson really helped me to stay on the better path. I can feel that love for wisdom growing in me, that’s also why I want to study philosophy and psychology. I cannot thank you enough for introducing me to people like Jung and Dostojewski! I really feel like you serve the best in me!

@elektrotehnik94

2 жыл бұрын

Edit 2: the idea you described resonates heavily with eastern philosophy to me (at the least Zen Buddhism, parts of Hinduism & Meditation practices present in both)

Amazing conversation. Thank you from the bottom of my soul for what you are doing ♥️

Thank you guys!

Thanks Mr Peterson for your wisdom and making it easy to understand. You have helped me tremendously to find direction.

@etiennebroodryk2679

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergedenovo2389 obviously I meant in the positive sense.....

@Ipleadthebloodofjesus

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson only provides positive direction The end.

@bettermanchannel770

2 жыл бұрын

Making the complex simple and digestible

@elektrotehnik94

2 жыл бұрын

Putting emphasis on "making it easy to understand". It's what takes him far above other thinkers --> he is able and willing to share the fruits of his labor wide

Another mind opening talk I look forward to chewing on

This conversation is so important in the UK right now

Sir this is pure gold May you live longer to give more like this

These three men are a modern representation of the Magi, leading the way with wisdom to the house where God resides. Keep it up men and God bless from Ireland

@alistairhunter5724

2 жыл бұрын

God delusion

@noelcarroll4178

2 жыл бұрын

There's always one 😆 🤣

You mentioned the key-word: "mystery". That is how we perceive God and His Creation in Orthodox Christianity. We never go too deep (because we can never fathom God's works and reasons anyway) and just take it as such. Orthodox Christianity sits on the notion of mystery. We accept and respect it at the same time, if you wish. On a different note: Dr. Peterson, could you please allow your guests to finish their sentences? 🙏 I'm from Eastern Europe and I would love to hear what they say. To me, such viewpoints on Christianity (coming from British/Scottish backgrounds) are very interesting, as all we get here in terms of people coming from that part of the world are highly secular people, who have nothing to do with religion.

@petardraganov3716

2 жыл бұрын

That thing about never going too deep on the part of Orthodox Christianity seems to run the risk of a superficial and contradictory interpretation of the Bible, which could never be true. Insufficient analysis can also lead you to follow the Bible literally without genuinely following the spirit of its commandments, which would be a sin. These are, of course, potential dangers and I don't have many examples at hand of falling prey to them. I would like to hear what you think of as "too deep", i.e. what kind of question is not worth asking.

@McLovin3691215

2 жыл бұрын

One example of a mystery would be the Eucharist (aka Communion). The Eucharist is both symbolic and mystical. Also, the Eucharist in the Orthodox Church is understood to be the genuine Body and Blood of Christ, precisely because bread and wine are the mysteries and symbols of God's true and genuine presence and his manifestation to us in Christ. The mystery of the Holy Eucharist defies analysis and explanation in purely rational and logical terms. For the Eucharist, as Christ himself, is a mystery of the Kingdom of Heaven which, as Jesus has told us, is "not of this world." The Eucharist, because it belongs to God's Kingdom, is truly free from the earth-born "logic" of fallen humanity. From St John of Damascus: "If you enquire how this happens, it is enough for you to learn that it is through the Holy Spirit ... we know nothing more than this, that the word of God is true, active, and omnipotent, but in its manner of operation unsearchable".

@nuzzi6620

2 жыл бұрын

@@petardraganov3716 Most of us don’t go too deep, certainly not without the right guides. Orthodox Christianity is pretty well-known for its love, reverence and adherence to the teachings and theological consensus of the holy fathers (ie. church fathers, from the earliest days of the church to the present-day), and many of their writings are so deep, theologically and philosophically complex and seemingly esoteric that your head would spin trying to understand it. But they were truly holy, God-enlightened men and women. To use Peterson’s language (which he used to explicitly refer to the Orthodox _phronema_ or mindset), they were able to “pick up (their) damn cross” and walk up the hill. From their vantage point on the top of the hill, they can see things more clearly than we who are still on the climb or still at the bottom. Or to use St. Paul’s words, they see things as if through glass, a mirror, whereas for most regular folk we see things more darkly. Hope that helps.

@maryleefaucher2848

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Please let others finish their thoughts.

What a conversation! I really enjoyed this. Thank you.

Great discussion. I would love to hear more from James and Nigel.

At around 50 minutes in Jordan starts describing what Christians would call the image of God (I think he calls it a golden thread of reason). He's getting there.

@etc6615

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

@carlmorgan8452

2 жыл бұрын

No .......worldly knowledge is in the way ..?confounding...them....and, nonbelievers.

@carlmorgan8452

2 жыл бұрын

GOD IS SPIRIT. GOD IS LOVE. GOD IS THE WORD. GOD IS CREATOR OF ALL. IN GOD IS HOPE EVERLASTING 🙏

I'm just glad to see and listen to you again!

Brilliant. Thanks for that discussion Jordan.

Thank you Jordan, James and Nigel. It is a treat listening to you.

I'm so grateful that Prof. Peterson introduces us to these incredibly interesting people!

I feel so out of place, such eloquent talkers these ppl are. I want to be like them!!

I wish I had the where with all to write a comment deserving of this most insightful, important and stimulating conversation. I'll simply say 'hussah'!! Remarkable stuff. Great to see Nigel keeping on keeping on too in the horrid face of woke adversity. Well done all.

A free socratic lesson in philosophy. Taken at Cambridge or Oxford, this one lesson would no doubt cost a mint. Thank you Gents.