Sean Penn Defeats Mickey Rourke | Best Actor Oscar 2009
In 2009, Mickey Rourke had a good shot at winning the Best Actor Academy Award for The Wrestler, but then he lost to Sean Penn for Milk. In this video, I break down that year's fascinating Oscar race and discuss the reasons why Penn defeated Rourke for the award. #oscars #academyawards #bestactor #seanpenn #mickeyrourke #brianrowevideo
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That Oscar definitely should have gone to Mickey. The Wrestler made me bawl.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been a great win!
@dannielleburrus6117
9 ай бұрын
I recently re-watched it and he is great in it! I was also struck by how eerily similar The Wrester and The Whale are. Aronofsky did highly similar plots with a different type of character but both involve body abuse, re-connecting with a daughter, extreme trauma, and another spoiler.
I would have given it to Rourke personally, but Penn's win made a LOT of sense! Also, I think the craziness of what was going on with Prop 8 might have edged some Academy members to send a few votes Penn's way as well. It truly would have been a tough call if I was checking the ballot.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, good point about the Prop 8, I didn’t think of that!
Mickey should have won an Oscar, he was great, he was the best that year. The Academy doesn't like him, that's all.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been an amazing speech!
@g.m.5511
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender ...and unforgettable for sure
Mickey was so handsome when he was young
Sean Penn is one of my favorite actors but both times he won, there was a performance that I preferred (Murray and Rourke). In my opinion, he should have won the Oscar for Dead Man Walking, my favorite performance of his. Since we are talking about The Wrestler, I would love to see a video on how Marisa Tomei went from being an Oscar punchline for her surprise victory in My Cousin Vinny to a respected 3-time Oscar nominee.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ll definitely explore her career one day, most likely in a video about her surprise win in 1993!
@minavamp2811
Жыл бұрын
sean penn deserves his loss in dead man walking to nicolas cage win in leaving las vegas. that year cage swept on almost all critic awards (los angeles film critics association, new york film critics circle, national board of review, national society of film critics.), plus the golden globe and sag award. there is no way in hell that anybody in the best actor category would upset cage that year.
@tbam73
Жыл бұрын
I agree. It took a few years for the Academy to like Sean Penn enough to reward him the streak of incredible performances (again) helped.
@arontamas5639
Жыл бұрын
Same but for instance the nominees of the year 2004 in that category was incredibly competitive. Everyone gave such an award worthy performance.
@christophergarza9118
Ай бұрын
I love him in “I Am Sam” much more than Denzel Washington in “Training Day” The overlooked factor played a part in the win got Denzel.
As an Austin Butler stan, the throwbacks to his Oscar loss hurt so bad 😭😭😭😭
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry! I know, it’s still fresh!
@turtletank4784
Жыл бұрын
Bro did you even see The Whale?
@norm-bb3bb
Жыл бұрын
@@turtletank4784Mid movie
@turtletank4784
Жыл бұрын
@@norm-bb3bb Same could be said for Elvis
@christophergarza9118
Ай бұрын
@@norm-bb3bbthe awards is (or at least should be) about the performance of the actor not the film as a whole.
Rourke was great in Angel Heart, one of my faves.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Love that movie!
I think Rourke signing with WWE in the middle of the race was also a factor in the decision of the Academy members
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Interesting factoid!
Ahhhh! So excited this video this came out. As great as Mickey Rourke was in The Wrestler, I still hold Milk very near & dear to my heart so very happy it won multiple Oscars. Your Oscar retrospective videos are so well informed and compiled! I guess for 2010, it'll mainly be between Meryl, Carey Mulligan, and Sandra Bullock, even though Sandra pretty much had it locked up to begin with.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Sandra is my all-time favorite, so I’m definitely going to explore her Oscar win. Look for that video in May!
Both Milk and The Wrestler were two great dramas released in 2008. It’s my personal favorite Sean Penn performance as he completely disappears into the role of Harvey Milk. While The Wrestler was a phenomenal comeback for Mickey Rourke. Both equally phenomenal performances that I would’ve been happy with either of them winning. But if I were to give the slight edge, I would choose Mickey Rourke.
@sarasamaletdin4574
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else feel Milk isn’t talked much while the Wrestler is now? I was a teen when they come out so didn’t quite follow the Oscars but I do recall this year somewhat and Slumdog and those two films being talked about. But I still haven’t seen Milk since it’s not in any streaming platform in my country and I never hear people talk of it now, outside just weather Penn should have won or not. While The Wrestler seems to be talked often.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
I will always wonder what the Rourke acceptance speech would’ve been like. He killed in those speeches all season!
AWESOME Brian!!!! You said it was gonna be a good one and voilà!!! You're really outdoing yourself!! I remember at the time listening to Rourke's BAFTA speech thinking hmmmm dunno if some in the Academy is gonna go for that profanity, and thought then and there that Penn was now sure to take the Oscar!!! I had a slightly similar thought after Cate's Critics Choice speech this year actually, calling it a televised horse race!! Btw Brian, did you enjoy Cate in the new Sparks music video? Very cute!!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bev, I’m glad you enjoyed it!! And I’ll have to check out that video!
I’ve always thought Christian Bale should have been nominated for The Dark Knight. I think he gave a performance worthy of a nomination at the very least, and in my mind it would have been cool to see Bale and Heath Ledger win portraying two of the most iconic comic book characters of all time. I am also biased as Bale is one of my favorite actors and his portrayal of Bruce Wayne/Batman is my favorite so I won’t pretend not to have any sort of bias. But looking at those nominated for Best Actor, I do think Mickey Rourke gave the best performance that year. Sean Penn was very good in Milk, but of those nominated I’ve always seen Rourke as giving the best performance of those five. Just a captivating performance all the way around. I think Penn should have won for Dead Man Walking as I see that as his best performance. Thank you for talking about this particular race Brian, keep up the great work and take care!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jared! I agree that Bale should’ve been recognized for The Dark Knight, what a great nod that would’ve been!
I can't wait for the Kate Winslet defeat Meryl Streep video. I love both actresses and their performances in The Reader and Doubt.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
That will be a fun one to make!
Penn vs, Depp I still can't get over. How did "IS THAT MY DAWWWGTER IN THAAYYYRE" defeat such a iconic character?
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
LOL my choice that year was actually Murray! Some solid performances to pick from.
I remember watching that night. Was so surprised, I turned to my friend and said, "well, that was an upset.."
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Ha!
Missed these videos!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yay, glad to be back making them. Kate vs Meryl next month!
I can’t wait for the merly vs viola race of 2012
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
That will be a fun one!
Hey Brian! I LOVE your channel! Could I suggest a good Oscar retrospective topic for a future video? The 2012 awards season race for Best Actress between Viola Davis and Meryl Streep
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ll definitely get to that one!
I remember this night so well. All my coworkers at the video store had an oscar party complete with an oscar pool. We were divided on this race and when penn was announced everyone in the room lost it like it was the Super Bowl. I lost to my friend Jared by one point that night because I loved that Mickey Rourke performance so much and he absolutely should have won in my opinion
@christophergarza9118
Ай бұрын
He was perfect for the role. He was the right age, similar life experiences ( I would imagine) and the incredible physique! I could imagine him as a pro wrestler and another life.
Sean Penn seems like a total prat in real life, but he was so goddamn good in Milk. It's a great win.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
it's hard to judge these two- but when I see the performance in Milk- I see Harvey Milk- I don't see Sean Penn. Perhaps in this instance the awards may have had a higher bearing when based on a true person...? We had Sean Penn in a lot more recently than Rourke- and Sean Penn seemed like he became Harvey Milk-
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Great points, thanks for watching!
The only bad thing that year was The Dark Knight not being nominated for Best Film And, I think, it's the reason they extended the Best Picture category.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
YUP. I still remember how shocked I was. I wasn’t sure about Director, but I thought a Best Picture nod was obvious.
@laurajones1773
Жыл бұрын
It should have won Best Picture that year. I can’t stand Slumdog Millionaire at all. It’s my least favorite Best Picture winner. Not to mention that all of the Best Picture nominees goes into obscurity now. The Dark Knight is still talked about to this day.
I always find it interesting that people have zero issue with Heath Ledger winning an Academy award for a comic book movie, but people for soome reason step over Angela Bassett shouldn't winning for being in.... a comic book movie. Gee, wonder why
@williamcainevoiceacting
3 ай бұрын
The quality of performance. Bassett is endlessly talented but the quality between the dark knight and marvel films is immense. As great as Basset was, I still mostly saw Angela. I don't see a shred of Heath when I watch the dark knight. It's one of the most impressive performances I've ever seen and there's a reason his performance is the bar to reach in comic book films. No one has yet
Thanks again, Brian, for another well-done commentary. I wanted Micky Rourke to win even though I detest wrestling. I like seeing the underdog win. Even though Micky did not get an Oscar that year, he had many opportunities because of his nomination and, of course, excellent acting.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome!
Sean Penn just steals people's well earned oscars
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
LOL
I prefer the perfomance from Mickey 😊
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Love that performance!
Please do "Anthony Hopkins defeats Chadwick Boseman" video. Thanks :)
@mariembentena5039
Жыл бұрын
Yes please
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
Chadwick was never going to get it. The body of work wasn't fully there before his untimely passing. Hopkins was absolutely masterfully in The Father vacillating between charismatic and imperious. That devastatingly vulnerable ending scene clinched his win. Classic case of populist hype. See Coleman vs Close. The Favourite was a way better than The Wife and received way more nominations. It was only shocking for those not paying attention.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ll definitely need to explore that topic down the road. Thanks for watching!
@kashaud17
Жыл бұрын
@@got2bjosh Boseman Won two precursors and the Academy embarrassingly put the Best Actor category at the end of the show with the expectation that Boseman would win. I agree he was in a more supporting role. The only lead was Viola Davis.
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
@@kashaud17 Best Director, Best Actor, and Best Actress are always put at the end of the broadcast. Best Picture is always the final award. Hopkins rightfully won. With 5 additional nominations since his first win, Hopkins was seen as long overdue for a second Oscar. His performance was too impressive to ignore, he was still alive (the Academy VERY rarely award posthumous Oscars), and his overall body of work was much stronger. I agree, Ma Rainey was about Viola not Boseman. Supporting would've been a more appropriate category for him.
Even though it aglines with your number 4 reason why Mickey Rourke didn’t win best actor Oscar. I think one of the factors that he didn’t win is he agreed with to complete in a special celebrity wrestling match against Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania 25 & his repsentives warned him to not announce the planned match during award season campaign because they worried that it might effect his Oscar chances. But during a red carpet interview at 2009 SAG Awards, Mickey Rourke spill the beans of the planned match. They have to do damage control about it when he appear on Larry King Live for not only about the film but sort of debunked the planned match with Chris Jericho on the show.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, excellent point! Thanks for sharing, Jonathan!
@Ryan07_20
8 ай бұрын
I’m confused. Why would a wwe appearance affect Oscar chances?
That was a tough race forsure, it’s hard to argue with Sean Penn
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I feel Rourke getting a nod for the Wrestler at the Oscars was his 'welcome back' but wasn't going any further. He had a small but decent part in Spun but I always think of him for Angel Heart, in which he was brilliant, Barfly and of course Nine and a half Weeks but that's really it. As soon as the video started I thought, Oh, this is like another Butler/Fraser race, so yeah, lots of people must of thought that. Penn was damn good in Milk, that's it.
I didn't look now, but have you done a vid to Julia Roberts win over Ellen Burstyn? I feel like as time goes by everyone appreciates Burstyns performance more and I always thought she was better than Roberts regarding her limited screentime
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
Burstyn was phenomenal in Requiem, but she already had an Oscar and her film was much darker, tougher viewing which could've turned off some voters. Julia was coming off a decade of box office hits and turned out a very strong performance in a more palatable and successful film. Roberts win for Brockovich continued the 00s trend of actors winning Oscars for playing real life people. She wore that iconic Valentino dress and gave a great, albeit long, speech. Roberts win has held up well over time and she's received additional nominations showing she was never a one trick pony.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
I thought about doing that topic because I love both of them, but Roberts really did win everything that season she qualified for, so Burstyn had almost zero shot at winning. If Burstyn had won SAG or BAFTA, I would’ve done it.
Penn is wonderful and Rourke is too,wish it could have been a tie,it wouldn't bother me that Rourke lost if Penn hand't already won for his overwrought baiting turn in 2003.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, both were great! Thanks for watching!
Haven’t seen Milk, but Rourke’s performance is one of my favorites from the decade.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
So good! Thanks for watching
Yea, I was surprised you didn't mention Prop 8 in relation to Penn's win that year.
Something that should be noted for Everything everywhere all at once just made history for its Oscar wins for Ke Huy Quan, and Michelle yeoh while making this video on the Oscar’s where slum dog millionaire. That was around the time of a trend starting in the 1990s where films that talked about Asian stories that was directed by white men and none of the Asian cast members being nominated and sweeping up the academy awards. Parasite was close to breaking this mole but none of the cast members was unfortunately not nominated mainly bc the American film studio behind parasites promoted it as bongo joon-ho’s international breakthrough and didn’t promote the cast members in any major film awards besides a Best cast award at SAG
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
The Last Emperor says hello.
@sarasamaletdin4574
Жыл бұрын
Ben Kingsley won for Gandhi but maybe you didn’t count him because he is mixed?
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Great point, thanks for watching!
@Kevin-rg3yc
Жыл бұрын
@@got2bjosh and say hello back bc the film was directed and written by a white Italian man and none of the Asian cast members were nominated despite the film winning 9 Oscar’s effectively proving my point
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin-rg3yc My point was that the trend is not unique to the 90s. The Last Emperor was in the 80s. Its massive success at the Oscars is part of a long line of grand historical epics that the Academy loves to reward. Asians very rarely received Oscars for their acting, but it does happen and is changing. SM is a great film that was made well over a decade ago before the cultural conversation around diversity and representation reached the full rolling boil we know today. The Academy has made important changes to improve its processes and voting body demographics which are now beginning to bear fruit.
Don’t forget Jodie’s wins for The Accused and Lambs.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yup, just 3 years apart!
A great ceremony, but can't call it one of my favorites with no acting clips!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh that doesn’t bug me as much since each actor was given a moment to shine before the reading of the winner.
please do a Olivia Colman defeats Glenn Close video, i would love it!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ll definitely need to explore that race. In the meantime watch Glenn Close and the Elusive Oscar, where I do touch on that Best Actress surprise!
@paulvoorhies8821
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender. Please don’t. It’ll only make me sick all over again. Fatal Attraction, Dangerous Liaisions, and The Wife; it makes my blood boil.
I don’t know about Sean Penn for that performance. I felt he peaked with Mystic River. I think there was more good will toward him that season that detoured Mickey’s chances at victory among the ones mentioned in the video. Even back then, I did take issue with overtly stereotyped gay flamboyance that Diego Luna portrayed, I didn’t quite agree that Josh Brolin deserved his nom as the homophobic politician that snaps or agree with the massive white washing. It’s SF, and there weren’t many Latinos and Black queer men? Also, the token lesbian? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a solid film, but it just made me think more about it after the credits rolled on how it utilized it’s time on making sure we knew they had sex than really digging into what he was trying to accomplish. I guess I was always taken back that it was Sean Penn playing a character than becoming him. Somehow I got hints of I Am Sam in his vocal imitation. Just like his first win, it didn’t open up opportunities rather than validate his career whereas Mickey Rourke’s authentic and quiet power behind a grizzled and beaten exterior was his time to shine, but if you don’t quite have the backing of the Academy because of your antics and bad behavior, it only solidifies defeat. I guess Aronofsky has directed one male and one female best actor/actress winners later on with Natalie Portman and now Brenden Fraser. Kate’s win over Meryl was weird because of category fraud and, in my opinion, for the wrong film. If I were to choose Meryl’s 3rd win, it would have been for Doubt. The Iron Lady was a great Streep performance, but I preferred Doubt.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it always bums me out that Streep couldn’t win her third for Doubt instead of The Iron Lady. She won SAG in 2009 so Streep came close to an Oscar victory that night. Just couldn’t beat overdue Kate!
@nitsugazemag
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender The Reader is good, but it kinda falls in the category wonkiness as The Fabelmans with Michelle Williams in a supporting role nominated in lead. The film that Late should have been recognized for, in my opinion, is Revolutionary Road. If they planned for her to only win for The Reader, it should have been supporting to give Meryl lead with Doubt.
@melisagalvalizi6982
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender anne hathaway should have won for rachel getting married
2008 is one of my fav years in cinema, but one with the lamest choices for the Oscars (leaving out TDK of the best picture category, I mean...) Sean Penn is great, but damn Mickey Rourke gave the performance of a lifetime. For me, he should have won. Also, I have not seen the Richard Jenkins film, but to snub LDC for his role in Revolutionary Road was CRIMINAL. To this day I can´t believe how ignored was that film, specially in the best actress category, but I´ll save my opinion on that for the next video (can't wait!).
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
This is one of your very best most insightful videos! IMO Penn was the clear winner for his transformation into Harvey Milk! Rourke may have been victorious in another year for the performance of his career but this was Penn's Oscar all the way!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that means a lot! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Please do Renee Zellweger vs Nicole Kodman Oscars race pls love u Bryan!!!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Maybe down the road. Thanks for your kind words!
Mickey doing work with WWE at that time to promote the movie may have hurt his chances as well. Pro Wrestling in the late 2000s was still being frowned upon (it's gotten much better now) and voters may have hated that Rourke would work with WWE at that time. Even his management team hated the idea and felt it would ruin his Oscar chances.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, excellent point!
This would have been tough to vote for. I saw both movies at the time and both were good performances. I just can't decide. I think if I could vote I would have ultimately went with Penn as he really delved deep into the character and owned it. (I also think Kate Winslet was worthy)
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, both performances are great and it would’ve been hard to choose!
Is it just me or would Hank Azaria have been a better Harvey Milk
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm would’ve been interesting!
I remember that year, Rourke was never going to beat Penn. Many thought his performance in Milk was even better than Mystic River which was largely seen as making up for Dead Man Walking. Rourke may have had a strong comeback, but people like to see consistency and momentum when it comes to rewarding the Oscar. If prior track record of good work isn't there then the nomination is your prize. Plus, Rourke's bad plastic surgery didn't help. Penn was always the stronger, more versatile actor who had a better track record of giving great performances.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Penn seemed the obvious choice, but his losses at Golden Globes and BAFTA showed he was vulnerable!
@paulvoorhies8821
Жыл бұрын
I do think that his performance in Milk was better than that in Mystic River.
@lilchaos4792
Жыл бұрын
That's now how it works at all. Penn won due to wokeness and it was a biopic of an openly gay senator. That's it.
Mickey was robbed by politics. This Was the 1st attempt of the Oscars to show gay appreciation, same they did often in the past with other social issues. I've seen both movies at the time and there is no way (although subjective) that Penn's performance (then cherished after ignored for years) was better than Rourke's. Another political snafu from the Oscars. Great video as usual!
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@laurajones1773
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s the same reason that Moonlight won Best Picture over La La Land.
You should do a video on the 2015 best actor race between Eddie Redmayne and Michael Keaton. I am of the option that Michael Keaton should have won that year. Birdman is one of my favorite movies and it would have been absolutely awesome to see him win.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Would be a fun one to make!
@lilchaos4792
Жыл бұрын
Keaton 100% got snubbed
@turtletank4784
Жыл бұрын
@@lilchaos4792 You are one of very few people who actually agrees with me.
I watched the wrestler just expecting it to be alright at the most. But I absolutely loved it
Simple. The way the Academy didnt like Sean Penn for many years which unfortunately had him lose out on amazing performances. I think the Academy didnt like Mickey Rourke
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Good point!
I would love to see this one with Jamie Lee Curtis angela Bassett michelle yeoh Cate Blanchett
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, maybe this summer!
Do one on Peter O'Toole I always wanted to know why he never won an oscar
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
That one is coming. Essential.
@brandonthomas7093
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender Thanks Cant Wait!!
"The Wrestler" is One of the Best Movies of the New Millennium. Mickey Rourke and Marisa Tomei ( my all time Favorite Actress,just so Talented and Gorgeous) should have won the Oscars as the Movie also. Huge Movie by any standards.
I can't much to the pro wrestling stuff already mentioned here, but that probably had a lot to do with Mickey Rourke's loss, but I have never seen Milk so that part I can't say anything about, I will say that The Wrestler is by far the best movie about pro wrestling ever because at least it doesn't treat the pro wrestling fan base like idiots like that movie WCW had called Ready To Rumble does. The argument could be made that The Wrestler was a niche movie which it was so it's appeal was never going to be broad anyway. Pro wrestling has a lot of nueasance when it's trying. WWE is currently doing their best storyline in 20 years at least with The Bloodline angle, a storyline that has had a lot of twists and turns better then some Hollywood movies have. That storyline is most Emmy worthy, but it definitely is. Hell the Bloodline storyline has been going on for three years now, WWE tends to drop storylines really fast with no explanation. I will say that Mickey Rourke not winning this gave wrestling fans an amazing mini-return for Rickey "The Dragon" Steamboat who most definitely was the star of that would be WrestleMania match that was the replacement for that Mickey Rourke vs. Chris Jericho match, which probably wouldn't have been as good. Good video
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
Also Whittaker swept the season
Mickey Rourke is one of my favourite actors he should of won i was so upset when he didnt win.
I love Mickey Rourke in Angel Heart!
In my humble opinion, Rourke should have won that award. I believe the same about Sean Penn in Dead Man Walking.
I’d love to see the same video for Penn’s 2004 win! The whole 2004 awards season, I thought Bill Murray would win!
I am damn sure, rourke in 2009 and and Murray in 2004 deserve best actor.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Great picks, thanks for watching!
I wonder if the Independent Spirit Award plays a part in Oscar Politics
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Probably not much but I did think Michelle Yeoh winning there before the end of Oscar voting this year didn’t hurt!
That Sean penn won the Oscar seemed good to me, he gave a great performance in Milk although I still feel sad for Mickey rourke. What ended up costing Mickey rourke the Oscar was that WWE loves to put celebrities in their Storylines and they wanted to take advantage of the Movie and Mickey rourke's great performance for Wrestlemania 25. Mickey rourke rejected it at first but when he said he would appear at Wrestlemania 25 he immediately lost his Oscar. At least the Oscar fell into good hands. Sean penn deserved it too.
Doubt should have best nominated for best picture. Critics ignored this film back in the day, but today this film is a masterpiece especially viola Davis 7 minutes performance
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@laurajones1773
Жыл бұрын
I think that film and The Dark Knight should have been nominated for Best Picture. They’re both way better than Slumdog Millionaire.
Richard Jenkins has to be the most underrated actor in Hollywood
The academy didnt want to give mickey because of mickey controversial behaviour and scandal. They were afraid of what he would say on stage if he won. I feel bad for him. The wrestler is good. Should have gotten into best picture also
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Would’ve loved that speech!
Rourke deserved the Oscar. But I’d argue he was even better at his peak in the 80s. Angel Heart in particular
That Oscar should have been Mickey's.........hopefully one day.........he will get it. It's well OVERDUE. The powers that be behind the scenes just wouldn't let it happen. BAFTAS new better !
I also think Oscar may have been a bit wanting to make up for LGBT representation after they know they didn't give BBM best picture before...that still looks bad..very very bad.
The Mexican is a great movie. Totally underrated
Why was Fraser talking like he was out OF BREATH, as if he couldnt breathe well?
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Think of the moment. So much excitement! He was probably overwhelmed.
I liked Frank Langella in ‘Frost/Nixon’ but I was never able to get past the fact he didn’t really look or sound like Richard Nixon. He was always just an actor trying to be somebody else. Overall, I liked the film, but Langella’s skills as an actor weren’t enough to overcome the fact he barely had a passing resemblance to the real man. I still think the best performance of Nixon was Anthony Hopkins’ in ‘Nixon.’ When it came to Sean Penn and Mickey Rourke, my vote would have gone to Penn with Rourke a very close second. I bet the accountants had to count the votes in the Best Actor category at least twice that night; that’s how close I think it was… Sadly, though, Rourke has never again achieved that greatness…
I would love to see a video on how Sandra Bullock beat Meryl Streep in the 2010 Oscar ceremony
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
That’s coming in May. Stay tuned!
@laurajones1773
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I think Meryl Streep should have won that year. She became Julia Child in Julie and Julia. I think Sandra Bullock is more deserving of winning an Oscar in Gravity.
@allisontucker9874
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@@laurajones1773 I wish it went to Gabby for Precious, it would have been the hi light of her career
@laurajones1773
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She was good, but I preferred Streep’s performance more. I used to watch some of the newer Julia Child cooking shows as a kid. Streep captures the mannerisms and accent very well. I’m not as invested with Sadibe’s performance as much mostly because I’m not a huge fan of that movie. Not to mention I felt sorry for her. I might be biased considering Meryl Streep is my favorite actress of all time.
They should of given him an oscar just because he fell off harder then anyone he wasnt the good-looking soft spoken chill actor as he was in the pope of Greenwich village i feel when someone who clawed there way back should of been given the award sean penn has consistently been a good actor who won osars been in the bisnus since a teen idk but ma dude is truly the pope of Greenwich village
Langella definitely was a solid choice. His performance as Nixon is great. Better than Anthony Hopkins.
Sean Penn deserved to win. This year Colin Farrell deserved to win instead of Brendan Fraser.
Mickey was robbed. I was so angry that time. Even watching this video bringing back that anger Thanks for your content though
@TheAwardsContender
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You’re welcome!
Mickey Rourke should have won
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been a great win!
MR should have won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody else annoyed at all these staight star actors playing gay men who die, and win Oscars for their "trouble"? William Hurt, Tom Hanks, Sean Penn and Brendan Fraser. Who's next?
I'm so glad Penn won, he played a real life character, looked like Harvey Milk and had the perfomance of a lifetime unlike Rourke who okayed a fictiinal unlikeable character
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Both performances are great, I think it was hard to choose!
It's too soon to mention Angela Bassett being the frontrunner to win the Oscar. Sean Penn deserve the Oscar for best actor, his performance as Harvey Milk was superb . I still think that Meryl Streep could won the Oscar for Doubt.
@got2bjosh
Жыл бұрын
Angela was never the frontrunner. The Golden Globes / HFPA has no overlap with the Academy. The SAG, however, which JLC won is part of the same Oscar voting body. The prevailing thought about Bassett is we've seen this performance from her before in so many shows and movies. Nothing new. Populist hype. Condon won the BAFTA because of course they supported an Irish movie. Hsu was too new and comparatively unknown to win. JLC deserved her win.
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719
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Agree on both accounts. Penn's performance in Milk was amazing and so was Meryl's in Doubt. I always call Doubt Meryl's quasi 4th Oscar.
@got2bjosh
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@@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719 Meryl was never going to win for Doubt despite her hot streak of great projects and nominations in the 2000s. It was Kate's year. Many thought she was long overdue after so many nominations for fantastic performances.
@TheAwardsContender
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Thanks so much for watching!
@singstreetcar5881
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Viola Davis should have won for doubt
Do you think that “The Times of Harvey Milk” winning the Best Documentary Oscar in 1985 had any influence on Penn ultimately winning?
Penn won SAG and that’s usually the indicator
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yep, that helped, but it’s not always the indicator. Johnny Depp won SAG the year Penn won his first Oscar.
Its absurd thet Panns portret of gay beats Rourke portret of hard guy>very politic and out of acting.But Pann knows if they go toe to toe he will lose to Rourke in acting and he owns him big time
I feel the race between Sean Penn and Mickey Rourke wasn’t as close as it was with Austin Butler and Brendan Fraser. With Penn and Rourke there was a small gap and with Butler and Fraser it was razor thin
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, what made the race between Butler and Fraser so razor-thin was that there was more Academy support for Elvis, so it made sense Butler was going to pull through.
@melisagalvalizi6982
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@@TheAwardsContender well, it seems there wasn't that much support after all.
@melisagalvalizi6982
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@@TheAwardsContender baz luhrmann films don't win acting oscars. I personally thought the elvis character lacked depth. This is the screenplays' fault but it harmed austin.
I like Sean Penn more anyway.
If i got to chose Frank Langella would have won.
There was never a doubt in my mind that Penn would prevail here. Easy call.
@TheAwardsContender
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The BAFTA win showed that Rourke had a shot. But yes, Penn made the most sense!
@paulvoorhies8821
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@@TheAwardsContender. Don’t you wish that the Academy would release the percentage breakdown of the winners afterwards? Now THAT would be fascinating.
@paulvoorhies8821
Жыл бұрын
I first saw Brad Pitt on Dallas, though I didn’t “know” it was him until about a decade later.
@paulvoorhies8821
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAwardsContender. That is a strange win in retrospect, don’t you think?
Rourke on his A game .. rivals the best of the best …. Deniro won’t work with him … I think he feels threatened
Rourke would've won today 100%
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Probably!
@lilchaos4792
Жыл бұрын
@BrianRoweVideo narratives are the reason Will Smith, JLC, Fraser, Quan, Chastain, Kotsur, and Yeoh all arguably won.
Everybody loves Darren Arronofsky, except me. His movies are not for me and I have no plans on seeing Whale.
@DavidN369
Жыл бұрын
It's a very polarizing film for good reason -- the play it's based on is an earnest, well intended false-equivalency contrivance that operates in pity masquerading as empathy. Brendan is deeply heartfelt, he and Hong are genuinely committed, and the climactic scene with Samantha almost seems from another property altogether. Yet in the end, it's more stunt than anything, which is also a pity.
@townsongs
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apparently he also instigates beef between actors working with him 😭
@iamsoverybored878
Жыл бұрын
His movies are ones that you only want to see once if you have a desire to see them.
Slumdog millionaire is overrated
@laurajones1773
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Finally, I’m not the only one that think that. That movie is dumb. Crazy it won Best Picture over The Dark Knight.
No surprise here. Penn has always been more respected and Rourke, while great in the Wrestler, was a one trick pony (or two depending how you feel about his 80s work). Plus playing a real life person always gives you a leg up at the Oscars.
@TheAwardsContender
Жыл бұрын
Yes, although I still think Rourke could’ve taken it in an upset!
@Dennisanyone-
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@Nick Xero you have a point. But unless the field is weak, where a newcomer might win, the voters take into account if they respect you for your body of work, and how well you play the Hollywood game, along with the performance. Penn learned over the years to do this, which probably gave him the edge. It was probably a tight race. Rourke also had a comeback narrative, which helped Fraser clinch the Oscar this year in a extremely tight race.
Sean Penn shouldn’t have any Oscars. Johnny Depp should have won for Pirates of Caribbean & or Bill Murray
Acting like a stereotypical over the top gay man when Harvey Milk was not stereotypical sounding. Listen to his old interviews. Mickey Rourke should have won.
I'd say Penn was the better performance and the right decision was made. If it was today Rourke would have Won because narrative trumps the actual performance. Just look at 3/4 of the Winners this year and last year.
@TheAwardsContender
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I would’ve been happy with either, but I’ll always wonder what Rourke’s speech would’ve been like!
@Gavin48
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@Brian Rowe Video it is a shame that not only did he lose. He had to be in Iron Man 2😔
Still can’t believe Rourke lost to that corny performance penn gave in milk
@darrenlockenheart
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I like corns. They are healthy.
@QuestionMARK618
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@@darrenlockenheart me too
Because woke
Because the move was gay
Sean Penn is an awful actor