How have Everton had two points deductions in one season when city's breeches have been pending for years

@marty1459

Ай бұрын

City charges cover a different time period with no time restraints.

@joelthorpe4170

Ай бұрын

City's case is massive and will take years. They're fighting it, Everton didn't so it makes it easier to come to a conclusion.

@chancesareshewears

Ай бұрын

City have trillions of dollars...

@garrystubbs4891

Ай бұрын

@@joelthorpe4170 This is not an excuse. They have been deliberately prevaricating. If the PL were not protecting their cash cow the Sly 6 clubs, including Man City. All they had to do was to impose deadlines for submission of information for specific time periods, not everything at once. Everton have had two punishments for 2 different time periods. Then you impose increasing points sactions and fines, for each deadline missed. Now THAT would focus their action, and it's normal best practise to prevent exactly this sort of prevarication and stalling. Fat chance of the PL doing that though, they're just going for the easy targets

@creepingbrain

Ай бұрын

Everton's case is a simple numbers game. The charges against City are allegations of systematic fraud over many years. Most of their charges aren't about failing FFP, it's the refusal to provide financial statements and other documents and refusing to co-operate. It's a far more complex case that City are trying to kick down the road, but hopefully they'll eventually get what they deserve.

City wont get any serious repercussions because stripping titles and trophies makes the FA and PL look bad

This is really madness, all the time Everton points deduction. What did they wronged in this world??????

@TheGeneralTunit2023

Ай бұрын

They had Iranian and Russian investment and the premier League punished the players on the points they earned with hard work 👀👀👀 a financial breach should be a financial penalty,if you get 3 points for no tax on your car they don't put them points on to your fishing licence 🤔🤔🤔

Meanwhile Man city plotting their next offence

@craigmoore4876

Ай бұрын

Man City have 115 charges. That’s a complex case. Comparing the amount of charges city have to every other case is like comparing murder to shoplifting

@jeanpaul9349

Ай бұрын

@@craigmoore4876 shocking how did city get to 100 without being stopped.

@craigmoore4876

Ай бұрын

@@jeanpaul9349 Because they didn’t get caught🤣

@fader1912

Ай бұрын

@@craigmoore4876but the murder hasn’t been proven

@fader1912

Ай бұрын

@@jeanpaul9349nothings been proven

Good guy Sean is

And now masters wants them to have yet another points deduction next season because of interest payments for the new stadium, you couldn't make it up .

@creepingbrain

Ай бұрын

Infrastructure spending isn't counted for PSR. Everton will probably get another points deduction next season not because of the new stadium, but because they're making losses of almost £100m a year.

@CarikeMaccer

Ай бұрын

@@creepingbrain They had changed the rules back in August to where the interest payments for the new stadium do count towards PSR. Everton's losses are mostly due to the new stadium, the fallout of sponsorships and investor/owner money because of the Russia-Ukraine war. Take a look at Everton's transfer fees these last few seasons

Stay strong evertonians ⚒️💪🏼

I wonder what will "happen" to C115ty?

@craigmoore4876

Ай бұрын

Yeah, 115 charges are going to get solved at a similar pace to a couple of charges🙄🤦‍♂️

@HanzoReiza

Ай бұрын

@@craigmoore4876 My question was what will happen not when. Also...... How long have they known? They said there is a date right?

@craigmoore4876

Ай бұрын

@@HanzoReiza and the date for the court hearing obviously hasn’t come yet. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work that one out🤦‍♂️

@HanzoReiza

Ай бұрын

@@craigmoore4876 Probably does as they've moved it back enough for launch

No problem for Everton. They are a mid-table side. With 8 points deduction they will still finish well clear of the relegation zone.

@AchtungBaby77

Ай бұрын

Are you kidding? Everton aspire to be mid-table! 😂 The last couple seasons they've barely dodged relegation.

@really8930

Ай бұрын

@@AchtungBaby77 Well, they are achieving their “aspirations” THIS season on their performances. But for the deductions they’d be on 35 points. They have a home game in hand against Sheffield which they can be expected to win, which would put them one point behind Fulham, who are definitely a mid-Table side. So, yes, on performances Everton are a mid-table side. Maintain their mid-table type performances to the end of the season, and they will end up well clear of relegation “no problem”… 😉

@shadow_realm47

Ай бұрын

Everton is under 25 goals on their xG the highest difference in the league,If the ship can be stabilized on the pitch a bit more they can pull through.

The Premier League should be proud of and wholeheartedly embrace Everton for building their superb new stadium! Yet the Toffees are asking no favours, only equal treatment! The Premier League and its commissions are hardly showing any of those things. Everton's well grounded appeal can surely wipe out that extra 2 points deduction! And then begins the real test of the Premier League and its commissions, where their integrity is at stake: handle and sanction the cases of Chelsea and especially Manchester City with the same principles as with Everton and Nottingham Forest. If and when they do it, the former should get around 30 points deduction and the latter around 250 points deduction (or relegation to League 1).

@shadow_realm47

Ай бұрын

Spurs and Westham got support from the league on the same issue.

115 get it sorted

It kind of seems like they're just pretending to be strict about FFP just to make it look like they're doing something, by taking aim at the smaller clubs who won't put up a fight. Because they're afraid to actually go after City. Nobody gives a damn about Everton and Forest spending a few extra quid, it's the team that bought their way to the top that they should be focusing on, but funnily enough that gets put on the long finger. And going after Everton twice in the same season just goes to show that they _could_ charge City for individual breaches, one by one... But they won't. Definitely some corruption going on.

@shadow_realm47

Ай бұрын

twice for the same charges, during the same period. You are on point on the last part. They are afraid of City.

I know Cith have 115 charges but they should do it one at a time and deduct the points one at a time until they get to 150

i love the way everyone is talking about how few goals everton scored but noone mentions our defensive record....we have literally the 4th best goals against in the league only the top 3above us and thats with only winning 1 game in 2024!!!

Keep getting back up Everton, they can't keep taking the rug away, you are being treated appallingly, hope you survive from a West ham fan

UTFT, we shall fight fight fight for the boys in the Royal jersey.

Meanwhile Luton were docked 40 points in total over 2 seasons and had to take it on the chin and for far less sums of money. Break the rules, you pay the price albeit a really tiny one.

Dide applying pressure once again 🔥🔥🔥🔥

When is the FA going to deduct points from Man City and Chelsea etc and fines??…..something very wrong here😮😮

Stop worrying about the points deductions. Learn the lessons, and don’t make the same mistakes again and move forward.

should have said what the fffffffffffffffff about the 100 other charges against some team in pl

Yet the Premiership have just forgot about all 150+ man city charges 😅 they must think if they wait long enough we'll forget about it 😂😂😂

Everton should sell the dock ground and use the money to buy much needed quality players

In fact, a single victory against Forest or Luton would put Everton 5 points clear of relegation with a game in hand. They will beat Forest at home, and draw with Luton away. Enough points will be picked up in other games to put Everton well clear come end of the season.

@markrobinson1369

Ай бұрын

Everton Forest Chelsea and city cheated EVERY team in the league. You knew the rules and broke them

@really8930

Ай бұрын

@@markrobinson1369 Yep, that’s why the punishment is just - maybe even lenient - and people should stop bleating. Everton are lucky that it’s not more. The premier league wanted a 15 point deduction. Everton have got away lightly with just 8 points in all.

@shadow_realm47

Ай бұрын

@@markrobinson1369 they plead guilty.The punishment was inconsistent. Chelsea spent a billion on players in 11months. City under investigation since 2009. Forrest was guilty of spending twice as much as Everton was fined half the points... Life is unfair. But these are crazy discrepancies between reality by those who are purporting that they're doing justice. Every team had an option to take part in the hearings last season and this season as well Leeds and Leicester chose not to take part. Leicester blatantly hid their books and won in court that they can no longer be fined for last season...

Like his tactics…totally conservative…

Sure thing, Lord commander Mormont

90% of PL are all living beyond your means and your club size. The model and sums involved isnt sustainable, good luck when your relying on your 3rd party money to fund 70-90% of your club when they no longer want to pay. Super league was mooted for a reason, because its the only way to keep the current level of funding going.

Premier league has lost all credibility city and Chelsea doing it for years and no punishment.

I would Alf love the top 6 to join the super league now jus to mess wi the prem might actually be a fair league if that happens

City's case is completely different it's far from straight forward please understand they are basically accusing Qatar or the City owners of lying I think I would take my time with that one you wouldn't want to be wrong would you. Everton, Forest and probably Chelsea next season have clearly broken FFP and PSR rules and therefore have been punished the moral of this is don't break the rules or give the ref a chance to award a penalty if you do then really you don't have a leg to stand on and can't complain about any punishment which is handed down!!!!!!

@shadow_realm47

Ай бұрын

yes of course. been under investigation since 2009. Been found guilty and punished in international court. Just need more time than 15 years!!!!

They missed a zero on the end lol

😂😂😂😂

First

As a millwall fan what about MAn CITY oh yh i no coz they got MONEY

Disgusting how Man City can still operate with impunity. If they tally up all the point City should be deducted, surely City would have been relegated by now….

Hope premium league points back

Please breathe into the microphone more...

Should never oppointed dyche Bottom table manager allways said it Sack him sack him sack him Lampard showed more passion for the club

The people who run Everton are to blame for thier predicament and appointing an absolute negative minded manager who sole ambition is to stop Everton from being relegated says a lot about where the club is right now. 😢

Getting boring now accept the deduction and get back on the training ground

115 FC . Fuckn Joke of a league.

First comment sky pin this please

@kennwan9917

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 get off KZread fella

@henrysmith2859

Ай бұрын

Why

When Man City ever gonna get any penalties though ???

Oh city fans shame on you 😊

He does the most boring press conferences

Everton supporters shouldn't be expecting to see any of the 777 loan money to go into the club expect the money to go straight into moshiri and usmanovs bank accounts plus the 777 loan money is just another loan what the everton supporters are going to end up paying back, there's only one person to blame at everton football club and that's the owner moshiri, moshiri out and take the demise of everton football club with you usmanov and the bramley moore dock fact

Yeah are massive cheats to

You got off lightly. It should have been another 6, Forest got let off lightly to. Luton lost 30 points. 8 is nothing

@tarky665

Ай бұрын

oh and man city's 115 charges arent a problem?

115ers Laughing all the way, prem is a joke.

Who else wants everton to relegated ?😂

@KingHumphrey

Ай бұрын

I do want them relegatedf, but only through on-field matters, not this nonsense.

Man City never deducted points because its all about money, money, money, A disgrace. Football is a bl00dy joke now.

Just relegate them and have done with it

Corruption…plain and simple

I wonder what will "happen" to C115ty?

@whoknew2273

Ай бұрын

FA

Everton supporters shouldn't be expecting to see any of the 777 loan money to go into the club expect the money to go straight into moshiri and usmanovs bank Accounts, Plus the 777 loan money is just another loan what the everton supporters are going to end up paying back, there's only one person to blame at everton football club and that's the owner moshiri, moshiri out and take the demise of everton football club with you usmanov and the bramley moore dock fact