SD2IEC - Lightning-Fast Mass Storage for your Commodore

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Ep 13 : The SD2IEC - a modern mass storage device for Commodore 8-bits that gives you the capacity and speed of a hard disk at an extremely reasonable price.
Special thanks to Jim Brain for providing some insider insights into the history and capabilities of the SD2IEC devices and firmware.
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  • @NumosG
    @NumosG3 жыл бұрын

    This channel deserves more subscribers. Glad I found you. Nice video!

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @stevejennings3960

    @stevejennings3960

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed and subscribed

  • @drphilxr
    @drphilxr10 ай бұрын

    GREAT stuff- here i am YEARS later, still using FB64 to surf directories on my many SD2IECs, and have jiffydos as well never knowing the commands or power to change directories and make them etc. yes i do have printouts for jiffydos, but watching this is so much more informative.

  • @cagroundhog
    @cagroundhog2 жыл бұрын

    Good review! I rarely use copy protected software so this is an excellent solution. Thank you!

  • @performa9523
    @performa95233 жыл бұрын

    This channel is awesome! Rock on!

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your support!

  • @75slaine
    @75slaine3 жыл бұрын

    Nice over view, learned a few DOS commands I wasn't familiar with. I really must get sorted with JiffyDOS.

  • @meneerjansen00
    @meneerjansen003 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the informative video. :-)

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    NP. Glad it was helpful!

  • @dougjohnson4266
    @dougjohnson42663 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. Now I know why Ultimate 64 (even with J.D. ) is so slow loading from the built-in drive emulation.

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The U64/UII+ are starting to close the gap with the sd2iec with the recent introduction of the hyperspeed kernal and software IEC device. I cover this a bit in my Ultimate II+ video and there have been some updates since then. Hopefully someday it will be as well-supported (or better) than the sd2iec as it's REU fast!

  • @paullee107
    @paullee1073 жыл бұрын

    You’ve earned my sub, thank you! Wish I’d of found you sooner- I ordered JiffyDOS and the RETRO Innovations uEIC/SD-DD deluxe; can you reply it make a video talking about this combo? And/or comparing them to other options? I really like the RETRO Inno GUY, but did I mess up? Thanks for your videos!

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome aboard! Jim Brain from go4retro.com is as legit as you can get, so no worries about having messed up. I haven't used the uIEC myself, but it's based on the higher end hardware so you should have all the features and upgradability the firmware can offer.

  • @DutchRetroGuy
    @DutchRetroGuy3 жыл бұрын

    I don't own a SD2IEC, but I do own a 1541 Ultimate 2. As such, I'd like to offer a small bit of info about using the 1541 Ultimate 2's virtual drive. Since the last few firmware updates of the 1541 Ultimate 2, it is actually possible to directly access the filesystem on the sd card/usb slot of the 1541U2 through a virtual drive (device 10 on the C64). It's not yet Jiffydos compatible and is definitely clunkier to use than what you've shown in this videos (changing directories is done using the command channel), but you can load and save programs and use the directory structure on the card. On a side note, the 1541U has always supported DMA loading single files into the C64's memory very quickly. Again, not comparable to the SD2IEC's easy of use, but it is mighty convenient if you want to quickly load a one-file program. Anyway, great channel - I've been enjoying the videos here quite a bit :)

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback and sharing about the virtual drive! I have not played around with that feature yet. I love the Ultimate II+ and will definitely be doing an episode (or two) on it in the future. Gideon more or less announced that the virtual drive is going to be getting serious future attention at the CRX2020 show a couple weeks ago so I'm really looking forward to see what that entails!

  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_1443 жыл бұрын

    I just recently bought parts to build an SD2IEC. Planning to internally-mount it in my 64C and probably add in JiffyDos later. Haven't done much with my current 64s since I got em but thinking this will be a good way to have some fun with 'em without having to deal with my (possibly not working) 1541

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, sounds like a fun project. As you can see, I'm a huge fan of the sd2iec. Obviously mine is off-the-shelf, but I did build the pi1541 hat which was a fun little project.

  • @cliffordgindulis9314
    @cliffordgindulis93143 жыл бұрын

    Since you are setting up to do a comparison between options in a future episode might I suggest you add the BackBit to your list?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll add it to the list! I haven't used one yet, but it seems like a neat device.

  • @morphshag
    @morphshag3 жыл бұрын

    I would really be keen to see a comparison between the SD2IEC and a tapecart sd, what their best use cases are and compatibility.

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I have no experience with loading 64 software from tape, but that could be a fun exercise. I'll keep my eyes open, thanks!

  • @sierraromeoromeo2444

    @sierraromeoromeo2444

    3 жыл бұрын

    The TapeCart SD is best suited to single file programs on computers without JiffyDOS. No disk emulation, no tape emulation, that's it!

  • @stevethepocket
    @stevethepocket Жыл бұрын

    Ugh... I get that the hardware is open source and all, but I wish all the disparate devices didn't market themselves under the same name. After seeing this in one of your other videos, I tried searching for it, but all I got were links to that one that looks like a Barbie doll sized 1541. Thank goodness this video was in the recommendations sidebar.

  • @ChrisCromwellHP
    @ChrisCromwellHP11 ай бұрын

    So all I need to do is install the JiffyDOS ROM chip in the Commodore? The SDIC already supports it from detection? Nothing else extra to install? I was looking to play lots of the commercially available games I can download from the archive site. Will all of those run on the SDIC? I don’t remember any copy protection being present on those games.

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    11 ай бұрын

    Correct, all you need is the replacement Kernal for the C64 if you plan to use an SD2IEC. You only need additional chips if you want to upgrade a 1541/1571/1581 disk drive, for example. There are games collections (>1500 titles) specifically tested and laid out for use with the SD2IEC. You can use any software that doesn't rely on copy protection (which includes most modern game releases) or that has a cracked version available (which is just about every classic release).

  • @ChrisCromwellHP

    @ChrisCromwellHP

    11 ай бұрын

    @@retrobitstv thank you for your insightful response! I’m relatively new to the Commodore 64 scene. My younger brother once owned a new Commodore C64C, I was/still am a loyal Tandy CoCo fan. The Commodore C64C was what the CoCo 3 should have and could have been. I always defended my CoCo machines, but I secretly knew the Commodore C64C was the better machine hardware wise. For the past few months, I began viewing many KZreadrs who had Commodore C64’s and all the things they have been doing with them recently. That eventually convinced me to get my own Commodore 64 computer. But I wanted one brand new, that I could build myself, but also more reliable. After much research, I eventually decided on the C64 Reloaded MK2 computer, put out by Individual Computers. I’ll get the black Commodore Case and the other accessories they sell. I’m looking to order one late next week. I already have all the required used chips I need, including the 8580 SID and BackSID. I already have the 8K ROMS downloaded to my PC, except JiffyDOS. I’m looking to get the SDIC product you mentioned on your video soon. I found a used working keyboard on EBay I will get. I have a few different ideas for the VGA Monitor converter to buy. But I don’t know what size/type S-Video Jack the C64 Reloaded MK2 uses, or what exact cables I need. Will have to figure it out after it arrives. However, I was thinking about starting a new Commodore 64 KZread channel, and join the many of you already on here.

  • @C64Lover
    @C64Lover3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Where did you get this particular sd2iec?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The one shown in the video is a 2018 model from NC Systems www.ncsystems.eu . The latest model seems to have moved the reset button away from the disk swap buttons but appears otherwise the same. They appear on eBay and Amazon from time to time as well.

  • @frankmichielli9965
    @frankmichielli99653 жыл бұрын

    link to where to buy same sd2iec as shown?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The one shown is a 2018 model from NC Systems www.ncsystems.eu - If you Google "2019 sd2iec lcd" they tend to show up for about half the price but I cannot vouch for any of the vendors; some look pretty sketchy.

  • @smokingunclefrank6037
    @smokingunclefrank60377 ай бұрын

    Yeah I tried that auto swap thing never worked for me but my the c64 may be more modern but mulii disks work better on that system

  • @Trollioli
    @Trollioli2 жыл бұрын

    I can't even get the damn thing to power up. I connected everything, formatted the microSD in fat32, loaded the SD2IEC as the only device (device 8 if I remember correctly) and loading the device just hangs. The LCD screen doesn't even light up when I attempt to load the files off the microSD. What am I doing wrong?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could be a manufacturing defect, or maybe it's getting bad power? Try supplying it (assuming yours is like mine) with an external power brick, +5VDC center positive.

  • @Trollioli

    @Trollioli

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retrobitstv I ahem.... I had the thing plugged in upside down. :| Soon as I flipped it over, it worked 100% fine. Yes I am a stupid man. Guess I got sloppy with modern day dummy plugs only going in one way.

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Trollioli Haha don't feel too bad, I've made the same mistake with the tape interface board :)

  • @deimos2k6
    @deimos2k63 жыл бұрын

    I now have one of these sd2iec devices, it runs well, but is slow as hell. do you have an idea why?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a fastload cart or JiffyDos ROMs? Without one of those, the sd2iec will only be marginally faster than a floppy drive.

  • @pmwizard48
    @pmwizard483 жыл бұрын

    What is the cost do this device and where can I buy one? Thank you in advance!

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The sd2iec shown in the video is an older model of the one sold here: www.ncsystems.eu/en/

  • @frankglaush6489
    @frankglaush64893 жыл бұрын

    Sdbrowse.....installation...found it on cdsb but can’t get it installed to work on sd card

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hrm, I didn't have to do anything special to get it to work. :/ I've heard from other people who had similar issues with their sd2iec that trying a different, freshly formatted sdcard solved their problems.

  • @SodaGumX
    @SodaGumX3 жыл бұрын

    where do i buy the one in the video?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The sd2iec shown in the video is an older model of the one sold here: www.ncsystems.eu/en/

  • @ronaldgoyette5807
    @ronaldgoyette58073 жыл бұрын

    Where can I be sure to buy the real-thing ( and not a clone ) ?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would stick with trusted vendors such as www.thefuturewas8bit.com/ store.go4retro.com/ www.ncsystems.eu/en/ or the like. Note: I am not sponsored by or endorsing any company or product over the other here!

  • @TheMrJamu

    @TheMrJamu

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing. This is open source (GPL2) project. So just buy the cheapest one that has all the features that you like.

  • @paullee107
    @paullee1073 ай бұрын

    You got some hairy hands, boi!!

  • @herbmyers805
    @herbmyers8052 жыл бұрын

    So what about Fast Load and Sd2iec in the same cartridge?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny you should mention that, because such a thing does exist. I haven't tried it myself but the project is open source: www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/_DIY__SD2iEC___EPYX_FAST_LOAD_CARTRIDGE_FOR_COMMODORE_64.html

  • @herbmyers805

    @herbmyers805

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@retrobitstv I saw this once thanks for finding it for me

  • @seekyou
    @seekyou3 жыл бұрын

    How is it possible to create the 16MB CMD partition?

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use a program called DirMaster for Windows. It can create and edit all of the common Commodore disk image types including DNP.

  • @seekyou

    @seekyou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@retrobitstv thanks man! it is not easy to find info about the sd2iec

  • @seekyou

    @seekyou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@retrobitstv so I just need to create the image on the card and then mount it with on my commie? don't need to do anything on the cf before? thnks

  • @retrobitstv

    @retrobitstv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@seekyou Yep, that's all there is to it! With DirMaster, you can drag and drop files into your new DNP from other disk images or straight from your PC and reorder them too. Then on your C64, it mounts up just like a .d64.

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