80 columns was a great idea for the commodore series. But the implementation of 80 column on the 128 was truly an abomination -- it seemed so nearly designed to be as hostile to developers as to be a scheme created by the competition.
@bitoxic2 күн бұрын
Hi! Will you do a video on the wifi add on for the U2+ L cartridge?
@Faxxer2483 күн бұрын
I played this game for years. I learned the music on my synth too
@lovemadeinjapan4 күн бұрын
I missed the 1570 drive, a nice match for the C64C and the C128. But boy does disk loading suck (and tape loading too). I've a computer with a automated tape mech that is easier to use and twice as fast as a 1541. I would never recommend the C128 though. Most use it as C64, yet it is very expensive, especially if you want a proper screen with the right cables. So Breadbin or C64C, both can be found in good condition for like 75€. And just expect poop-out on the screen. Even with s-video, what's on screen looks like faeses. Just be prepared.
@ANTandTEC7 күн бұрын
Good video 👍 I keep looking out for an SX-64 to buy, getting scarce now.
@nullface_YT8 күн бұрын
Played the hell out of this when I was a kid. I remember the keyboard specifically and my mom or dad said this is the future and it will prepare you for working. They meant like at McDonalds which by then had similar keyboards for order entry and seemed like science fiction to them. I wish I could say they were wrong. 🤣
@herberttlbd8 күн бұрын
I worked as a tech at a Commodore dealer starting in the late 80's. There is no guarantee of the PCB on a breadbin. Commodore was only supplying shortboards to dealers so if the PCB needed to be replaced then it was getting one.
@crashoverride32810 күн бұрын
Any time you are trying to desolder a large thermal mass low melt solder will b e your very good friend. The resultant alloy's low melting point simplifies the removal process a LOT.
@cathrynm13 күн бұрын
There was a way to play music from QLink, I believe. I think how it worked is you hanged in the chat, and asked the admin to play a song.
@amonster8mymother14 күн бұрын
The pizza is a jar.
@piplup1020385414 күн бұрын
18:00 Oh no, Tamagachi! My sister is gonna steal my Analogue pocket! 21:12 Sold it for me! I love Dig Dug! I remember playing it in the arcades. If this thing could only play one windows game from 1998 called Outlaws I'd think I'd cry otherwise because Dig Dug was one of my favorites! I cannot wait to play that. I am gonna lose my mind lol 😆
@brentgreeff111516 күн бұрын
Another interesting video - worth a passive watch, but not sure I would want to play the games myself. - I just got a 34" standard def Sony Trinitron which I am loving with MISTer. I am using antoniovillena's SVideo adapter - I was playing MISTer on my LG OLED, but didnt enjoy it. - I did scummvm a bit and started to wonder - what computer cores would work with standard-def? - I dont want to damage my TV so was a bit nervous to try, but playing the original Larry or maniac mansion would be awesome. There are some point-and-click classics on PS1 & Saturn, - not sure if a USB mouse would work with those consoles. There is always so much to explore with MISTer - a "Standard Definition MISTER Super video" would be a nice idea. - ie - whats possible with SD (CRT) beyond the console cores.
@jcchaconjr17 күн бұрын
It’s a shame that the labels got damaged while cleaning. I got and cleaned a heavy sixer about 8 years ago. I went ahead and crashed the console, but I did two things - I avoided running the brush over the decals, and other than some VERY LIGHT blotting with a paper towel after washing, I just let the labels air dry. I’ve seen others apply clear shipping tape over the labels, carefully trimming the edges to leave it on permanently, but that’s a personal choice.
@Naturd42017 күн бұрын
For anyone wanting to know how to start games like salamander and space harrier, you put your cursor over the start.bat and double click Q
@robinmoseley76619 күн бұрын
put the boards into the service mode position.. it is shown in the service manual
@apocalypsevingt-cinq15619 күн бұрын
Awesome computer! More!
@fordprefect_amiga19 күн бұрын
I grew up in Dale City, 10 minutes from this place!
@Toby_Q21 күн бұрын
I know this is an old video, but the first part of this video has exactly what I was looking for, a shot of the bottom of the A3000. Did A3000's not come with any feet? I'm trying to figure out what kind of feet came with them, as mine had none, but I did see a bit of adhesive residue so I think it had something... but I have no idea what. Was it rubber? Cork? Felt? Nothing?
@lovemadeinjapan21 күн бұрын
The best (8-bit) computer has decent BASIC, a decent video ouput signal (RGB+80-column), looks cool, has common interfaces, has room for internal expansion and has a proper (built in) power supply. C64 does not fit any of those criteria. How can it be best?
@scotth471323 күн бұрын
My first and only console system before the Commodore 64 came out. Still have it and nearly all the games.
@ArcadeFan7723 күн бұрын
Another terrible secret (in old 1541) is the power filter integrated into the C14 socket. Due to possible sparking and "magic" mass, it may cause a short circuit, lack of electricity, damage to electronics and even fire.
@lurkerrekrul23 күн бұрын
The ST/Amiga ports of Outrun were absolute garbage. NOBODY liked them. Back then, it really seemed like companies would pick the most incompetent, and inexperienced programmers to handle arcade ports, then give them a ridiculously short period of time to work on it, and force them to take shortcuts to get the game to run on the absolute, lowest common denominator system possible. Plus, the unwritten rule that home ports of arcade games always had to be inferior in some way, regardless of the actual capabilities of the system it was being ported to. Pick even the most well regarded home port of an arcade game from that era and I guarantee it will have some flaw that stops it from being perfect.
@AmigaBoingBlog24 күн бұрын
Yeah sadly the Amiga got the ST-castoff of Outrun - such a shame, since they could have made it require 1MB which might have produced a better Amiga port, since the Amiga had the Graphics Power Lotus was also better on the Amiga - Most Games were better on the Amiga, except a few such as Outrun and Rolling Thunder Between the Atari ST and the Amiga per-se -- The Atari ST was a downgrade to ZX Spectrum Graphics and Sound
@ivannasha555625 күн бұрын
Nobody else noticed he messed up and picked the .crt for the last file XD
@Alianger27 күн бұрын
24:00 That's an awesome manual for the time
@aleksandarl697528 күн бұрын
C64c with keyboard keys printed on top and front (start of 64c production) most likely will have long board, later ones with print only on top of the keys will most likely have short board. C64D, breadbin with case and keyboard colors same as C64C, also known as Aldi 64 made in Germany will most likely have short board. Short boards are more reliable, but many parts for long board have modern replacements, like dirt cheap easy to diy GAL PLA, vs not so cheap but still obtainable sharp "super pla" wich combines few chips in one big custom chip for the example. I like C64C look, but prefer long board, my firtst contact with c64 was breadbin, and becose of the diferent sid sound of c64c was never "it" for me, and imho long boards have more chance to be cheaply repaired if something goes wrong. One thing to remember, 80s where long time ago, check psu voltages before you plug it in the 35+ years old compter you just bought.
@gryzman28 күн бұрын
what's this dell monitor you're using ? The one /I got doesn't have S-video
@10MARC29 күн бұрын
I had a promo advertisement with all of the Odyssey games listed, and I used to drool over "Quest for the Rings". Never owned it, never even played an Odyssey, but I spent hours fantasizing about that game.
@durrcodurr29 күн бұрын
1:21 Did you see this? Most CP/M systems contained a GSX subsystem for graphics. Why does nobody ever pay attention to that?
@cgraham6Ай бұрын
My parents bought me an Oddysey 2 after I broke my arm and couldn't play outside for a while. I absolutely loved it. I remember a game where you flew a helicopter and had to rescue people off the rooftop of a building by lowering them a rope and flying them to a pad on the ground. That was the whole game. It got old after about five minutes, but i remember playing a lot of it.
@whochecksthisАй бұрын
Brings me back to 1987… I ran geos 128 for my dad’s business…
@user-me4ok9fl2xАй бұрын
hahahaahahahahahahahhahaha loooooooooooooooooooooooool yeah i know this why we started looking at power of th device
@LightOfReason7Ай бұрын
I had an Odyssey2 and it was pretty cool. My favorite games were UFO and K.C. Munchkins (you could create your own maze). The controllers were better than Atari
@erockbrox8484Ай бұрын
Also any console can actually produce good games, it just takes good programmers and some time to produce them. But what made the appeal of the NES so much better? Well there was Mairo, so Sega really needed a mascot during this time period.
@gmirwinАй бұрын
It didn't come with a mouse... but the mouse found the box anyway.
@argniests5357Ай бұрын
did you have to change settings on the OSSC to get it to work on that LCD panel? Thanks
@erockbrox8484Ай бұрын
I was a North American kid in the 1980's and I can tell you. The NES 100% dominated the market. It was fun and easy to use and every kid had one. This is what SEGA needed with the master system. - They needed good games. - They needed a pause button on the controller - They needed better artwork on the boxes - they needed better sticker artwork on the cartridges
@fangzine937Ай бұрын
This is really strange but my great uncle had an Odyssey 2 and he bought it at a store called Heydlauff's in Chelsea, Mi. Maybe your tagged one came from the same place. My cousins and I loved Showdown 2100 - the ricocheting bullets were a hoot. Bowling was fun also.
@randylivengood3112Ай бұрын
I grew up with an Odyssey 2. Showdown, Pickaxe Pete, and Spin out were my favorites. Sadly my console died many years ago. I bought one for $200 a few years back and it was a dud! You absolutely scored big time finding a functional system. $50 is the deal of a lifetime!
@SpaceAce57201Ай бұрын
First video I have watched of yours. Love the format! ✌️
@discopants68Ай бұрын
Had one of these as a kid. I later bought the voice module as well, which wasn’t really worth the price (80 bucks I think) so I returned it. I always insisted the graphics were better than Atari 2600 because there were no flickering sprites. FYI, a third board game about stock trading called “Wall Street Fortune Hunt” also existed, complete with ticker crawl and breaking news stories that affected the stock prices. I had two friends that also had Odysseys (I think I sold them on it). Each of us owned a different board game, as those were pricey at around 50 bucks apiece.
@digitalarchaeologist5102Ай бұрын
Best platformer of all time - Bubble Bobble.
@OM19_MO79Ай бұрын
Retrobits? More like Retroboxes!
@mikepalmer2219Ай бұрын
I loved the intellivision and the Coleco.
@csudsuindustriesАй бұрын
When the hard wired joysticks fail you can hard wire and Atari one in. I had to do that when I wore out the 1st player one with Smithereens.
@stephenriggs8177Ай бұрын
The only console system I ever had. It was given to me by my brother in law, and I loved it. I particularly liked Pickaxe Pete and their Asteroids knockoff. The game was weird, in that you could only rotate your gun in one direction, so you had to be careful not to miss. My favorite part was the "idle" sequence, which described the enemy craft. Most had names, but one was simply called "drifts randomly." That became my favorite description for some of the cars I encountered on local freeways.
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80 columns was a great idea for the commodore series. But the implementation of 80 column on the 128 was truly an abomination -- it seemed so nearly designed to be as hostile to developers as to be a scheme created by the competition.
Hi! Will you do a video on the wifi add on for the U2+ L cartridge?
I played this game for years. I learned the music on my synth too
I missed the 1570 drive, a nice match for the C64C and the C128. But boy does disk loading suck (and tape loading too). I've a computer with a automated tape mech that is easier to use and twice as fast as a 1541. I would never recommend the C128 though. Most use it as C64, yet it is very expensive, especially if you want a proper screen with the right cables. So Breadbin or C64C, both can be found in good condition for like 75€. And just expect poop-out on the screen. Even with s-video, what's on screen looks like faeses. Just be prepared.
Good video 👍 I keep looking out for an SX-64 to buy, getting scarce now.
Played the hell out of this when I was a kid. I remember the keyboard specifically and my mom or dad said this is the future and it will prepare you for working. They meant like at McDonalds which by then had similar keyboards for order entry and seemed like science fiction to them. I wish I could say they were wrong. 🤣
I worked as a tech at a Commodore dealer starting in the late 80's. There is no guarantee of the PCB on a breadbin. Commodore was only supplying shortboards to dealers so if the PCB needed to be replaced then it was getting one.
Any time you are trying to desolder a large thermal mass low melt solder will b e your very good friend. The resultant alloy's low melting point simplifies the removal process a LOT.
There was a way to play music from QLink, I believe. I think how it worked is you hanged in the chat, and asked the admin to play a song.
The pizza is a jar.
18:00 Oh no, Tamagachi! My sister is gonna steal my Analogue pocket! 21:12 Sold it for me! I love Dig Dug! I remember playing it in the arcades. If this thing could only play one windows game from 1998 called Outlaws I'd think I'd cry otherwise because Dig Dug was one of my favorites! I cannot wait to play that. I am gonna lose my mind lol 😆
Another interesting video - worth a passive watch, but not sure I would want to play the games myself. - I just got a 34" standard def Sony Trinitron which I am loving with MISTer. I am using antoniovillena's SVideo adapter - I was playing MISTer on my LG OLED, but didnt enjoy it. - I did scummvm a bit and started to wonder - what computer cores would work with standard-def? - I dont want to damage my TV so was a bit nervous to try, but playing the original Larry or maniac mansion would be awesome. There are some point-and-click classics on PS1 & Saturn, - not sure if a USB mouse would work with those consoles. There is always so much to explore with MISTer - a "Standard Definition MISTER Super video" would be a nice idea. - ie - whats possible with SD (CRT) beyond the console cores.
It’s a shame that the labels got damaged while cleaning. I got and cleaned a heavy sixer about 8 years ago. I went ahead and crashed the console, but I did two things - I avoided running the brush over the decals, and other than some VERY LIGHT blotting with a paper towel after washing, I just let the labels air dry. I’ve seen others apply clear shipping tape over the labels, carefully trimming the edges to leave it on permanently, but that’s a personal choice.
For anyone wanting to know how to start games like salamander and space harrier, you put your cursor over the start.bat and double click Q
put the boards into the service mode position.. it is shown in the service manual
Awesome computer! More!
I grew up in Dale City, 10 minutes from this place!
I know this is an old video, but the first part of this video has exactly what I was looking for, a shot of the bottom of the A3000. Did A3000's not come with any feet? I'm trying to figure out what kind of feet came with them, as mine had none, but I did see a bit of adhesive residue so I think it had something... but I have no idea what. Was it rubber? Cork? Felt? Nothing?
The best (8-bit) computer has decent BASIC, a decent video ouput signal (RGB+80-column), looks cool, has common interfaces, has room for internal expansion and has a proper (built in) power supply. C64 does not fit any of those criteria. How can it be best?
My first and only console system before the Commodore 64 came out. Still have it and nearly all the games.
Another terrible secret (in old 1541) is the power filter integrated into the C14 socket. Due to possible sparking and "magic" mass, it may cause a short circuit, lack of electricity, damage to electronics and even fire.
The ST/Amiga ports of Outrun were absolute garbage. NOBODY liked them. Back then, it really seemed like companies would pick the most incompetent, and inexperienced programmers to handle arcade ports, then give them a ridiculously short period of time to work on it, and force them to take shortcuts to get the game to run on the absolute, lowest common denominator system possible. Plus, the unwritten rule that home ports of arcade games always had to be inferior in some way, regardless of the actual capabilities of the system it was being ported to. Pick even the most well regarded home port of an arcade game from that era and I guarantee it will have some flaw that stops it from being perfect.
Yeah sadly the Amiga got the ST-castoff of Outrun - such a shame, since they could have made it require 1MB which might have produced a better Amiga port, since the Amiga had the Graphics Power Lotus was also better on the Amiga - Most Games were better on the Amiga, except a few such as Outrun and Rolling Thunder Between the Atari ST and the Amiga per-se -- The Atari ST was a downgrade to ZX Spectrum Graphics and Sound
Nobody else noticed he messed up and picked the .crt for the last file XD
24:00 That's an awesome manual for the time
C64c with keyboard keys printed on top and front (start of 64c production) most likely will have long board, later ones with print only on top of the keys will most likely have short board. C64D, breadbin with case and keyboard colors same as C64C, also known as Aldi 64 made in Germany will most likely have short board. Short boards are more reliable, but many parts for long board have modern replacements, like dirt cheap easy to diy GAL PLA, vs not so cheap but still obtainable sharp "super pla" wich combines few chips in one big custom chip for the example. I like C64C look, but prefer long board, my firtst contact with c64 was breadbin, and becose of the diferent sid sound of c64c was never "it" for me, and imho long boards have more chance to be cheaply repaired if something goes wrong. One thing to remember, 80s where long time ago, check psu voltages before you plug it in the 35+ years old compter you just bought.
what's this dell monitor you're using ? The one /I got doesn't have S-video
I had a promo advertisement with all of the Odyssey games listed, and I used to drool over "Quest for the Rings". Never owned it, never even played an Odyssey, but I spent hours fantasizing about that game.
1:21 Did you see this? Most CP/M systems contained a GSX subsystem for graphics. Why does nobody ever pay attention to that?
My parents bought me an Oddysey 2 after I broke my arm and couldn't play outside for a while. I absolutely loved it. I remember a game where you flew a helicopter and had to rescue people off the rooftop of a building by lowering them a rope and flying them to a pad on the ground. That was the whole game. It got old after about five minutes, but i remember playing a lot of it.
Brings me back to 1987… I ran geos 128 for my dad’s business…
hahahaahahahahahahahhahaha loooooooooooooooooooooooool yeah i know this why we started looking at power of th device
I had an Odyssey2 and it was pretty cool. My favorite games were UFO and K.C. Munchkins (you could create your own maze). The controllers were better than Atari
Also any console can actually produce good games, it just takes good programmers and some time to produce them. But what made the appeal of the NES so much better? Well there was Mairo, so Sega really needed a mascot during this time period.
It didn't come with a mouse... but the mouse found the box anyway.
did you have to change settings on the OSSC to get it to work on that LCD panel? Thanks
I was a North American kid in the 1980's and I can tell you. The NES 100% dominated the market. It was fun and easy to use and every kid had one. This is what SEGA needed with the master system. - They needed good games. - They needed a pause button on the controller - They needed better artwork on the boxes - they needed better sticker artwork on the cartridges
This is really strange but my great uncle had an Odyssey 2 and he bought it at a store called Heydlauff's in Chelsea, Mi. Maybe your tagged one came from the same place. My cousins and I loved Showdown 2100 - the ricocheting bullets were a hoot. Bowling was fun also.
I grew up with an Odyssey 2. Showdown, Pickaxe Pete, and Spin out were my favorites. Sadly my console died many years ago. I bought one for $200 a few years back and it was a dud! You absolutely scored big time finding a functional system. $50 is the deal of a lifetime!
First video I have watched of yours. Love the format! ✌️
Had one of these as a kid. I later bought the voice module as well, which wasn’t really worth the price (80 bucks I think) so I returned it. I always insisted the graphics were better than Atari 2600 because there were no flickering sprites. FYI, a third board game about stock trading called “Wall Street Fortune Hunt” also existed, complete with ticker crawl and breaking news stories that affected the stock prices. I had two friends that also had Odysseys (I think I sold them on it). Each of us owned a different board game, as those were pricey at around 50 bucks apiece.
Best platformer of all time - Bubble Bobble.
Retrobits? More like Retroboxes!
I loved the intellivision and the Coleco.
When the hard wired joysticks fail you can hard wire and Atari one in. I had to do that when I wore out the 1st player one with Smithereens.
The only console system I ever had. It was given to me by my brother in law, and I loved it. I particularly liked Pickaxe Pete and their Asteroids knockoff. The game was weird, in that you could only rotate your gun in one direction, so you had to be careful not to miss. My favorite part was the "idle" sequence, which described the enemy craft. Most had names, but one was simply called "drifts randomly." That became my favorite description for some of the cars I encountered on local freeways.