The best controller reviewer on KZread delivers again. I know everyone else is also thinking this, but if this had hall effect sticks and console compatibility, it would have it all.

@Maestro_Charlie_Abraham

9 ай бұрын

at least it looks easy to access the modules to replace them if necessary. will you do a demo of that? maybe on an older model Scuf controller

@noclipp

9 ай бұрын

It'd still be missing gyro though

@nix.aeternae

9 ай бұрын

​@@noclippIt really doesn't have gyro?

@3GsRuthless

9 ай бұрын

Even if it had changeable thumbsticks like ps5 edge pro.

@kenzilbaptiste2519

7 ай бұрын

@@noclipp are you some kind of child gamer ...gyro ? nah nah

Gotta say, i love the comment section on your videos. Both you and the community here do a great job fleshing out some of the nitty gritty afterthought details. I watch most of your videos knowing im not gonna buy a single one of these just because it stratches that itch of thorough completionism.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

That's what I love to hear

Scuf making a controller for PC better than their console controllers. Imagine.

@upurweight

9 ай бұрын

Console gaming will be a thing of the past sooner than later.

@abelke

9 ай бұрын

@@upurweight that’s so unrealistic. PC has been around since the original Xbox and PlayStation and console is still just fine. Some people like simplicity

@CodeVenomSnakes

9 ай бұрын

@@upurweight How is it the thing of the past and plus you cannot get the same power on a console on pc with that price. Console are the cheap way to get into gaming.

@upurweight

9 ай бұрын

Consoles will slowly begin to become pre-built PCs...

@realislit8064

9 ай бұрын

​@@upurweightpretty sure they're already are, I dont see why console manufacturers would open it up and use different os when the current way they do things rn allows them to optimize heavily on it and have a not bloated software slowing them down

You are without doubt the Controller Captain. Your knowledge, depth of reviews and delivery is second to none..... and it's not even close. 👍🏼

Been waiting for you to review this one! I got one and been loving it so far.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Thanks dumb killer, I've been loving it too

@KeegBennett

9 ай бұрын

@@GamerHeavenOfficial LMAO " Dumb Killer..." u just had to hit him with that eh

Finally I’ve literally waited all week for your review! Best controller reviewer on yt

I am 100% getting this. I was happy to wait for your review before buying (even though I’m now waitlisted), but your review confirms what I was hoping! The Wolverine was the only other one I was considering with the 6 extra buttons, but the face buttons and the fact it looks gorgeous tipped this over the line!

@napalm1537

8 ай бұрын

Did u get it?

@ayjie6829

7 ай бұрын

enjoy the stick drift

@icanfixthat3890

7 ай бұрын

@@ayjie6829I’m glad I work at bestbuy and don’t have to worry about that with my $2 protection plans 😂

@Slomwotion

4 ай бұрын

How has the controler been for you so far?

They gotta add Hall effect sticks

@samgoff5289

9 ай бұрын

Yea, it isn't even worth considering imo especially because of the price ridiculous

@Mister_Phafanapolis

9 ай бұрын

Really everything should have Hall effects. Why not? When there are $40 controllers that have them then it’s dumbfounding they $100+ controllers don’t.

@HSGG_

9 ай бұрын

they are afraid that those controllers will never break

@rackscalling

9 ай бұрын

the hood is getting the nacon revolution 5 not scuf

@ExoticGaming99832

9 ай бұрын

Fr not worth

Great video everything included that I wanted to know! Good job 👏🏼

First time viewer, mind blown on your content and delivery. Look forward to new videos

Just in time waiting for my order from Best Buy! You the man!!

Hey, another great video. This might be my first “pro”/PC specific controller I pick up. Would have been perfect if it could connect to PS5, but hopefully a dongle will come out to support that some day. Keep up the great work man.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Thank you Devin I appreciate that. PS5 support would be the bomb considering that is the platform I play on the most

Hey Big Stallion, the a and b buttons can be changed, you just have to add them somewhere else first. It only forces a and b to be mapped somewhere. I also got better polling results on the higher sample tests. My instinct pro is benched.

Just received today. Can't wait to use. Great video.

Yesterday when I bought the controller I was looking into adapters for iOS to play cod mobile. I hope one day the controller firmware can be updated to work with phones and just be universal all around to work with any console. Good video keep up your good work!

Love your vids keep up the good work

you are a magical content creator bro keep up the work

Great video. I ordered the the white one last week.

Great video! One if not the only quality controller reviewers on KZread, I love the in depth reviews. To no fault of Scuf, I broke my thumb a while back so the side by side thumbsticks have always been a much more uncomfortable layout for me. I would have loved to have seen an xbox layout option. and before I get a bunch of replies, I know this isn't scuf's problem. Just tough because I was looking forward to potentially getting my hands on their PC controller. I used to go back and forth between controllers with ease also, but yeah, my own stupidity and breaking my thumb has cast that aside 😂 RIP

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the compliment and for sharing your experience.

@chronicmayhem

9 ай бұрын

Him and vcuda are the only two i trust

The funny editing and jokes made a 30 minute review on a controller very watchable and entertaining.

Editing style never fails bro 😂🔥

Amazing review !!

Had Scuf taken the real leap and made the Pro version with hall effects joystick modules this would have been a phenomenal pro controller, but the lacking of that and all the current ICUE software issues, customers literally bricking new controllers or out of the box stick drift is ridiculous at this point coming from SCUF.

Absolutely great content man

Nice video mate. I know you mentioned about the G keys being able to be macro to pc functions but I don’t think you mentioned about the back 4 buttons. One of the key benefits and game changer is that you are able to set these up to any keyboard key. You are not limited to only having to map front buttons to the back ones. So with this you get the benefit of what MnK has. You can set up a button for just sliding, and another for prown. With this you get instant response. This is cause with the front button there is dive, slide, prown all linked to the one button and game waits to see if you are holding or click release to perform action. Now it will instant do it (as in game settings you have set keyboard binds to split actions up). This is main reason it’s for PC only as you have ability to do Keyboard binds on all programmable buttons.

@badmoose01

9 ай бұрын

That’s the same capability the SteamDeck has with its rear buttons and steam input.

@mrhairris2112

9 ай бұрын

@@badmoose01 You are comparing a handheld Pocket PC for Steam that is 6x or more the price of the Controller. But that is cool to know that is offered there too.

@badmoose01

9 ай бұрын

@@mrhairris2112 actually is closer to two times the cost of this controller but yeah, Valve is ahead of the curve on this stuff it seems. Also with the steam controller from a while ago.

@mrhairris2112

9 ай бұрын

I am just going off my market. Steamdeck is $1,400 - $1,600 vs $300 for scuf.

i dont usually watch 30-40 munites review but this was very interesting!

Appreciate it Brother!!

Thanks for all the great videos. So many choices, and the prices are so high... Anyway did you see this bad boy : "epomaker controller" ?

I was waiting for your review to order it and just today it shows me available so I just ordered that one white, though I wanted the gray one but the custom options did not show me that one. Thank you for your input!

This looks like an awesome controller and I hope the next instinct pro iteration from scuf includes those extra side buttons. Another big takeaway from this review is the fact that AK40Kevin has a 6 button Battle Beaver controller on the way for review someday in the future.

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Beaver beaver beaver

@JackLeftTown427

9 ай бұрын

@@GamerHeavenOfficial Thank God. I’ve been debating pulling the trigger on a Battle Beaver with 6 buttons for the last year.

Great review. How do you think this controller holds up for fighting games? specifically the d-pad

Nice, look forward to console versions. Thanks for sharing... "👍"...

I was hoping you'd make a review on this controller now I can have some clarity whether if iI want it. Thank You

Definitely laughed at the G Unit reference lol!

Been waiting for you to make a video on this, always reliable. If you're up to it, could you do an comparison to the Envision Pro and the Wired Envision?

AWESOME REVIEW!

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Thank you

Great review as always, it's a really nice controller hopefully they make a PS or Xbox version.

I’m in the market for my first pro custom controller. Mostly for warzone/cod. What’s your ultimate #1 controller to use? That will be good for mw3. Right now I’m between an aim controller and the envision. What is your go to for that game? If you could only pick one to use forever lmao. I’ve been watching all your videos and can’t decide. You probly have the most experience with every brand to know the answer. I play on pc.

I am very tempted to buy this controller but if they had hall effect stick I wouldnt even second guess buying it. I many like the hall effect ones because they are more responsive rather than the "no stick drift" claims

That looks like an amazing controller! Just really wish it had the HE sticks. Hopefully an edition down the road will have them.

Thank you for your review! Have you tried 8000hz before on a controller?

i get mine in tomorrow i cant wait to play around with this

Seems good BUT im keeping my PlayStation Edge I got this week. It’s AMAZING. I returned my Scuf Reflex FPS. Got 2 year warranty from Best Buy i can walk in get a new one anytime. My Edges input delay rate is .96ms after latest firmware, I didn’t overclock it myself (wtf??) and the short triggers actually click much faster than the entire travel time + you can make faster in DXW. I recommend the Edge if you’re shopping for PC controller!

@32:31 The way around this is rewasd. I was able to get it working with PS remote play. The controller shows up in windows as an xbox controller, and then there is another peripheral that is detected for you to map to the play station buttons. i.e the touchpad click. I haven't messed around with other functions of the touch pad, but all clicking buttons on the DS4/5 controller are mapped and works great!

For the price I wish It would have come with a case, still happy with it though, great vid

Amazing review thank you matey!

Hey thanks for the video! I just bought my Envision Pro and I'm wondering what kontrolfreek is the best for the thumbsticks, you recommend the switch pro, right? The purple one for nintendo switch?

I have all kinds of controlles and the Scufs are one of the best. Until recently, the Scuf Envision Pro was my favorite controller for PC gaming, but I bought the *Flydigi APEX 4 Wireless Controller EVA Limited Edition* and I love it. The design of the limited edition is wonderful, the joysticks are more precise and has hall effect technology, the wired and wireless connection has a polling rate of 1000 Hz, achieving ultra-low latency, and the screen gives it an extra point. The only negative point for me is the Force Feedback triggers, because I'm not going to use them much, but they can be locked at the height you want and thus turn them into instant triggers for shooting games.

Been a fan since before you left the military and before you revamped your room. I appreciate your reviews. Wife hates you though because she knows I’m taking $200 next check 😅

@GamerHeavenOfficial

25 күн бұрын

lol, 200 bones well spent if you use it alot. thanks for the long time support man

Just ordered!!

My FPS freeks fit, but the front plate blocks them. Have you tested them fully on the controller? You can feel them rubbing the plate and getting caught up on it. It even affects in game sensitivity due to it getting blocked.

I'm sold on the Envision Pro... just switched to it after using an Elite Series 2 for the last decade. I'm not a big fan of iCue but the controller is one of the best I've ever used. What I really like is that you can remove run two or four paddles. I only run two so this was a big selling point for me.

Yo bro they sell these on Best Buy. I saw that you didn’t mention that. I also got mine in 2 days ordering from there. Love the vids

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I didn't mention that because I didn't know about it lol, or I probably would have bought from there

I really hope they make an Xbox version of this. The sax buttons are a really unique thing that would make Scuf standout from the crowd.

@wesselvt013

6 ай бұрын

Scuf instinct pro is almost the same

def. grabbing the pro

how comfortable is this controller if you hold it with index and middle fingers both on shoulder buttons? that's how I play Rocket League and I use ring finger for back buttons. Is it still easy to press the 4 back buttons and the 2 sax buttons with that grip?

i gotta get this. all those extra keys will be great for binding scripts.

I just bought this controller. This was one of the videos that informed my decision. The piece I'm confused by, is the statement of the "included" larger thumbsticks. My packaging did not include alternate thumb sticks. Was that a mistake in the video?

22:44 is that light bleed or is it intentional? I must've somehow missed the rgb part of the video Great review as usual tho. Scuf is really stepping it up, I like this even tho it has a few cons

Can this be used without iCUE? Do you NEED to have that installed for this controller to fully work?

What are those dome sticks? Instinct? Or regular scuf that comes in a 4 pack? I have control freak waiting in my cart for the regular stock thumbsticks and I’m just curious on which the domesticks are so I can get them as well

We are nearing the END GAME controller. So happy when compatition creates perfection just takes time. Personally still waiting for hall effect on this form factor gamepad.

Do you know if modding it for HE sticks would be as simple as how other custom controller makers replace them?

I got an add for the scuf envision pro right before this video I’m not lying

When they make this exact same white/grey design with hall sticks and Switch compatibility and BROOK CONVERTOR compatibility …. Easily copping 2, maybe 4.

How’s the stick tension feel on this? I’ve always loved the ps4 controller and the tension on it. I have the t4 gamesir Hall effect controller and not a fan of the Xbox layout, and I feel my aim isn’t the best with how light the sticks are.

Getting mine next month. I've topped out with R16 i94000k & 4090. Thanx so much for the review.

Are hall effects specifically not being added so you buy a new controller from them again later?

Mine for some reason locks those buttons if I don’t start it when my PC starts or when switching from wireless to wired and back to wireless. When the iCUE isn’t up the hardware mapping works fine, but right when the app is started back up it stops working with the extra buttons. Reset just doesn’t seem to be working, not sure what could be causing this.

What type of thumbstick replacement do you use for this controller cuz I want the high ones

Do you think this controller's dpad is good for fighting games? Definitely important to me, I read many complaints about the PS5 Razer Wolverine V2 dpad with its mechanical switches being way too sensitive causing way to many extra unintended inputs and so I'm worried this dpad might cause issues like that too with the mechanical switches...

What more controllers can you adjust the thumbstick curve response on? Need one for my racing games but this one is not availble in my country

this might be a silly question,but are custom controllers supported with steam input,as in can i assign keyboard keys to any button?

Are the thumbstick separated like the dualsence? Because when 3rd parties copy the stick layout, they are too close for me. My thumbs touch.

Help! Just got my envision pro and the icue software completely messed up my rgb keyboard lightning. I use steelseries gg for my MSi laptop keyboard. Software conflict any fix, can’t find anything on the internet?!!

Will you be able to actually tell the 2ms input delay? Im rocking the scuf reflex now OC and have a 1ms delay

I have to keep deleting the software and re downloading it for the back buttons to work any fix ?

cant get my envision tp show up in gamepad tester and in the windows game controller it shows up as an xbox 360. if i go to properties and test it, i only see red button 1,2,3

I have a question! On steam what does this controller set as? Ps4 or Xbox or would it have its own option? I ask cause I have custome settings for apex for tap strafing n the such so I'm curious

Hey, in your opinion, what is the best my best I mean durable controller for PC

Have you tried using Besavior's U5 adapter to see if you can play the Scuf PC controller on the PS5?

Bummer no Gyro Aim. Would make it an immediate no-go for me. Interesting also theres no Hall Effect sticks. That and limited to PC only, seems a bit too limiting for that price. A bit unfortunate since it seems like a solid built controller outside of those.

@kellyminion2250

9 ай бұрын

I'm glad you mentioned this because I didn't even think about gyro

Can't wait for the hall effect version

when i get the money this is the controller im getting, i love it

Just bought this controller and both thumb sticks have a tiny bit of jitter out of the box, I’m new to pro controllers is this normal? I can’t update the controller for some reason it says update failed in icue

what would you say if you were to compare the feeling against regular dual sense sticks ? I am playing Warzone and I've been using it and not liking to switch to a different one because it is hard for me to get used to it. That is why I had to drop my elite series 2. How about this one?

You happen to know where I can find legion go interchangeable thumb sticks of different lengths or style that will fit the smaller scale sticks? Scuffs are too big

1 day of use and i will be returning this controller. right thumbstick had lots of stick drift/recentering issues out of the box and couldnt get the middle 2 back bumpers to map with keybinds for some reason. even after reinstalling icue and updating the controller.

I wish 3rd party companies make more symmetric joy stick controllers I have the 8BitDo Pro 2 and I love it

I know I'm a bit late, but can you assign a G key to push two buttons simultaneously, like a super in Destiny 2 or equipment in CoD?

Great review! Does it count as an X Input controller by default without third party software? Can it be used with non-steam platforms? Like X Box Gold

@GamerHeavenOfficial

9 ай бұрын

Yes after doing the initial update it is recognized by the PC as an x input controller without having to run any spoofy programs

@Maestro_Charlie_Abraham

9 ай бұрын

@@GamerHeavenOfficial perfect! Thanks! I’ve been waiting for Scuf to get back to me about that for weeks.

We finally have a wireless controller with micro switches! I prefer the Xbox layout unless I'm playing a d-pad game, then I want the d-pad at the top (like this one). I know a lot of people play FPS games on their controllers, but I use a keyboard and mouse for those. For me, the "joystick at the bottom" design is gonna cause thumb pain from the way I hold the controller (N64/GCN-style). I wish you could swap their positions like the Thrustmaster. I've been longing for a wireless controller with this featureset.

I bought the envision pro and did not open it yet trying to decide if it was worth moving on from my reflex fps. My main concerns were the possibility of losing response time from the reflex fps' permanent digital triggers to the envision pro's optional setting and assumption (that you disproved) that wireless would be a slower response time than wired. Now I am sold and excited to move to the envision pro!

@erikmorales1641

9 ай бұрын

how long have u had ur reflex fps & does it still hold up well. Any issues ?

@danlouis6778

9 ай бұрын

@@erikmorales1641 I've had it since May 2022 and love it. It has held up well with no stick drift or other issues. I am only moving to the envision pro for the extra options for PC and the possibility of going wireless with no input delay.

@John-wu4rc

9 ай бұрын

@@danlouis6778 But you can't overclock it to get 0.9 like the ps5 which is making me reconsider.

It’s been about 6 months now, How’s the controller holding up?

Does icue software settings override the game settings like warzone? Like deadzone, aim curve type etc.

What was that program called that fixed the thumb sticks deadzones and can you run it when you play games?

i believe hardware mapping just changes the stock hard mapped profiles that come out of the box. so if you where to take it and i guess use it on another pc without icue you can still load ur custom profiles since their hard mapped to stock profiles? idk just a guess since other icue products ive used in past have had the same hardware lighting option for when icue is closed.

I know you said there is no measurements but would you say its bigger or smaller than the Reflex pro (witch i bought last month fml) i used Astro c40 and it was my alltime favorite Reflex mechanical switches are awesome so im happy PC controller cod sweat BUT my reflex is OC to 8000 why can the Envision only do 1000???

Any discount code before I order? Don’t mind being on waitlist

For me a person who plays double claw I prefer the PlayStation stick layout because I can’t wrap my head around using my index finger to click L3 it’s too hard to press down in my opinion