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Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra Vs. Elite 2 Vs. Scuf Instinct Pro: Best Wireless Xbox Controller

In this video I explain why these 3 are competing, then we compare every aspect of these controllers are find out what's the Captain's pick and what should wash ashore.
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Why These 3
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3:46 Video Structure
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6:49 Cosmetics
8:47 Comfort
10:32 Build Quality
13:50 Warranty
15:42 Buyer's Advice
18:06 Dpad
19:17 Face buttons
20:19 Accessory Buttons
21:55 Thumb-sticks
27:27 Bumpers
28:34 Triggers
29:53 Rear Buttons/Paddles
33:02 Battery Life
33:53 Input Delay
40:24 Converter
41:26 Verdict
50:25 NEW Outro (first time used)
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  • @GamerHeavenOfficial
    @GamerHeavenOfficial6 ай бұрын

    An update on Scuf controllers: As of June 23'the warranty has been doubled to 1 year!

  • @Sr.Charlie.

    @Sr.Charlie.

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes sir! I’ve been wanting to tell you for a bit now. Nothing crazy but that warranty extend to 1 year it does help. Great content mate like always.

  • @milesjpratt

    @milesjpratt

    6 ай бұрын

    What is 23’?

  • @Bryrumnis

    @Bryrumnis

    5 ай бұрын

    8th inner gate 19:09

  • @PlanDeFi

    @PlanDeFi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@milesjpratt June 2023

  • @milesjpratt

    @milesjpratt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@PlanDeFi apostrophe comes before 23.

  • @TxDude62
    @TxDude627 ай бұрын

    I play on ps5. This is how enjoyable your videos are. I just sat through 51 minutes of a breakdown of 3 controllers I’ll never use, just so I could enjoy a video of yours.

  • @TxDude62

    @TxDude62

    3 ай бұрын

    @WilliamLopshirewhat does that have to do with anything?

  • @BrandonB-ob8yn

    @BrandonB-ob8yn

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@WilliamLopshire??

  • @SCarter02767

    @SCarter02767

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BrandonB-ob8ynbig willy must've deleted his retort

  • @oOTheMastaOo240
    @oOTheMastaOo2407 ай бұрын

    An elite series 2 with hall effect sticks and lower input lag is all I want... Maybe next year

  • @Exrimordonaj

    @Exrimordonaj

    6 ай бұрын

    Seriously how has Microsoft not put this out already.

  • @oOTheMastaOo240

    @oOTheMastaOo240

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Exrimordonaj the series 2 must still be selling well. Im thinking maybe next year we might get something. This year they are making an improved standard controller I think, so I ended up just making a custom elite 2 from xbox design lab

  • @jayr0x

    @jayr0x

    2 ай бұрын

    Instant buy for me.

  • @Calzone_J

    @Calzone_J

    2 ай бұрын

    @@oOTheMastaOo240I’ve had 3 elite 2 controller and every single one, gets stick drift

  • @borrellimaintenance
    @borrellimaintenance7 ай бұрын

    We unboxed 18 elite 2s at best buy and every controller had stick freeplay out the box. The largest return the store had ever processed. Wish I had recorded it.

  • @livegoer182

    @livegoer182

    6 ай бұрын

    i did something similar, went to stores and tried as many they would let me open. moderate to SEVERE stick wiggle on every single one. i still almost cant believe how shitty the sticks are. whats weird is most people using it dont even seem to notice. they only notice when the sticks get bad enough to give them drift outside of the mechanical deadzone (the point it becomes directly noticable in-game)

  • @justdude404

    @justdude404

    5 ай бұрын

    @@livegoer182I think it’s directly connected with customisable sticks tension. With the second level of tension right stick feels way better than basic controller with no wiggle at all.

  • @yeshua_is_his_name

    @yeshua_is_his_name

    4 ай бұрын

    Had the elite 1, it was perfect, i used to play bo3 cracked out, so I would have noticed if there was an input or stick issue, ended up selling it in amazing condition to a happy buyer

  • @aenyeart

    @aenyeart

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear Best Buy returned them. The greed needs checked. I really wish they’d charge more and manually test before shipping.

  • @ryanbush5656
    @ryanbush56567 ай бұрын

    This content has elevated so much since I stumbled upon it 2 years back

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @KID_CHAMELEON
    @KID_CHAMELEON7 ай бұрын

    I used the Turtle Beach for about a week. Maybe 5-6 hours total. Although I liked it a lot (especially after they added the ability to map R3 and L3 to the back buttons) I ended up returning it. As I was playing, the left stick seemed to feel like it was "grinding" when it was pushed up all the way and rotated left or right. (walking forward and strafing left and right) After closer inspection I realized the grinding feeling I was experiencing was the fact that the thumb stick had ring shaped gouges along the plastic from rubbing along the anti-friction rings. Clearly the rings aren't soft enough or the plastic on the thumb stick is too soft. Either way, I think this is a huge design flaw. I shouldn't have permanent damage on the thumb sticks after only a few hours of use especially on a $200 controller. I have since found a bunch of reviews with people stating they experienced the exact same thing. Not sure if it's a QC issue or an actual hardware design issue, but it had to be sent back. Back to the Scuf for me until Turtle Beach acknowledges this and makes it better. Has anyone else noticed scratches on their thumb sticks leading to a not so smooth rotation when gliding on the anti-friction rings?

  • @johnconklin1934

    @johnconklin1934

    7 ай бұрын

    Same with left stick. Really disappointing that it has happened so fast and its not like you can replace the faceplate. Im considering returning it as well but its not game breaking but certainly devalues the $200 price point

  • @jgvtc559

    @jgvtc559

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@johnconklin1934g7se has the rings yall want

  • @kylegibson5933

    @kylegibson5933

    7 ай бұрын

    There is no way you didn't like a controller because the left joystick felt uncomfortable at full lock, like everything felt insane but you moved your joystick after a couple of hours and you were displeased, lmao. That is sooooo picky that's unreal 😂

  • @KID_CHAMELEON

    @KID_CHAMELEON

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kylegibson5933 I 100% returned it because of this. It wasn't about feeling uncomfortable. It's a $200 controller and shouldn't have gouges in the plastic after a few hours of use. They used shitty plastics. That's why I returned it. 🙂

  • @nathafreak7928

    @nathafreak7928

    7 ай бұрын

    Is there reddit or tb related threads mentioning this issue? I'm on the fence, my unit is flawless besides this stick fatigue. Also after couple hrs playing noticed more friction on left stick with full lock circular, particuraly during calibration. I really want a keeper as all other aspect seems superior but i don't want to reach the point my top notch controller had the the stick sawn in half and broken like a match especially after warranty and with no replaceable stick. If the were easy to swap no problem. I'm wondering if everybody has the issue but no so many are so nitpicky or we have bad QC units. Maybe a reddit topis with a poll? Maybe there're be rewamped fixed version 2.0 launch in near future which i definetely would buy

  • @N3VURMYND
    @N3VURMYND7 ай бұрын

    Man, preordered the Turtle Beach via best buy and got it at launch. As someone who's gone through 3 elite controllers, I freaking love this controller. Those analog sticks are a game changer. I'm aware of other options but this one just feels amazing on hand. The Tb software - at least the Xbox app - is atrocious. But i love the fact that you can access all of those settings on the controller itself. I really dislike the caps and miss the thumbstick options of the elite series but after awhile, I just got used to the standard sticks on The TB. I play Apex a lot and finally switched to the 'linear' setting (which i found just impossible to use on the elite) and it's just amazing. It's not the perfect controller and has much room for improvement but so far I feel like this is the best purchase I've made so far! Really loving it so far!

  • @garyfawcett5225

    @garyfawcett5225

    5 ай бұрын

    Sadly I too bought one and sfter 3 months 1. Grinding from right stick (friction ring fsiling 2. Randomly shuts down mid game 3. Left trigger actuating itself all the time 4. D pad constantly moving down, even though it worked fine in the onboard screen I hope you have better luck than me (and an increasingly large amount of other pissed off owners)

  • @N3VURMYND

    @N3VURMYND

    5 ай бұрын

    @@garyfawcett5225 Wow! Sorry to hear that. Have you considered exchanging for a new one? Seems like you may still be in the warranty window and should have that problem resolved. I guess I did luck out. Mine is still working perfectly since launch.

  • @rrj411
    @rrj4117 ай бұрын

    I want to get the turtle beach...but I'm afraid to get it when elite 3 is around the corner.

  • @oOTheMastaOo240

    @oOTheMastaOo240

    7 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @jourychu

    @jourychu

    7 ай бұрын

    well it depends on how urgent u need it, if u need it urgent I would go for it but if u can wait (can take like up to a year still) I'd wait for the elite 3

  • @jamesdriver8148
    @jamesdriver81487 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your reviews. I received my TB Ultra yesterday and I’m very happy with it.

  • @pianovoix

    @pianovoix

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi ! what about now ? i am looking for my next controler for Xbox series. thanks for your help

  • @jamesdriver8148

    @jamesdriver8148

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pianovoix hi. I’m still very pleased with the controller. There’s lots to like about the controller. I quickly got used to the 4 back buttons and it’s ergonomic. Two things minor annoyances are the left stick friction ring has slightly worn - Does not affect performance but it is not as smooth as the right stick. Also, I have turned down in game dead zone to under 5 and I do get occasional stick drift. This happens when being smooth and gentle with movement. If I let go of the stick the drift stops. Despite this, I prefer very low dead zones to make movement more responsive. Hope that helps…

  • @TheTechne
    @TheTechne7 ай бұрын

    Could we say “the captain is at the controls” 🤣🤣 ohhh I love my knee slappin dad jokes.

  • @chfd098
    @chfd0987 ай бұрын

    Love the comparison review here. I am very interested in the Turtle Beach because I am one of those people who has had bad luck with the Elite series. But the first reviews on Amazon and BB have me nervous about the QC on the Ultra, lot of d pad issues, and the wear on the sticks is concerning, I had that issue on my Power A pro

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @nerdstrangler4804

    @nerdstrangler4804

    7 ай бұрын

    First party controllers are almost always going to have better quality control and use the highest quality parts. KZreadrs are probably just getting sent hand picked samples from manufacturers for review and have no idea how to discern the quality of components as they have never read a spec sheet in their life. Things like looks/features/feel are all valid reasons to choose a 3rd party controller, but not quality.

  • @themigwel6185

    @themigwel6185

    7 ай бұрын

    @@nerdstrangler4804but Kevin is not like those KZreadrs. He made many teardown vids.

  • @antx24

    @antx24

    5 ай бұрын

    I never had a problem with power A or the Stealth but I did get them later in the cycle.

  • @antx24

    @antx24

    5 ай бұрын

    Elite controllers all have QC issues. I have seen more returns on Elite than any other controller over $50@@nerdstrangler4804

  • @t-marvelous7906
    @t-marvelous79067 ай бұрын

    I am so happy with my TB stealth ultra. Stick drift on my Elite 2 was fucking ridiculous. Love everything about the stealth ultra, most responsive controller I've ever owned

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Love to hear that friend

  • @deanopain
    @deanopain7 ай бұрын

    Great video! Really appreciate the hard work. I went with the TB and I'm liking it. A big thing is the profiles which you can name for each game. Then that's displayed clearly. Now I'm no longer getting confused with my weird leftie mapped controls that are different for each game. The PC software is a bit weird and took me a while to sort out. Looks good but it eschews sensible interface practices. For example you have to save the profile onto a memory slot once you change anything. And the B button doesn't seem to work but hey just use the mouse if needed. Oh and the app is full-screen only with no min/max/close buttons. Other than that it's a winner so far. My Elite Core 2 stick failed a second time so I'm one of those people who'll never buy an Elite again.

  • @ryaiariot

    @ryaiariot

    3 ай бұрын

    Update to this? Wanted to get the TB, but someone commented on another video I watched said they had stick drift after only 1 month. I'm hoping that it was a one-off thing.

  • @pianovoix

    @pianovoix

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ryaiariot did you get the TB ? how is it ?

  • @pianovoix

    @pianovoix

    3 ай бұрын

    What do you think of the TB 4 months later ?

  • @ryaiariot

    @ryaiariot

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pianovoix no, because I just keep seeing more of those posts about sticks/rings gouging material out. You might get lucky an not have that issue, but the amount of posts that had the issue vs. the ones that didn't were too towards the negative for me to jump on the purchase. I'd wait a few more months and browse fourms about it to see it's resolved later, if not I'm probably getting an xbox elite series 3 when they arrive, as it seems to be right around the corner for a reveal.

  • @BB_usmc
    @BB_usmc5 ай бұрын

    Dude, your videos have been very helpful to my quest in finding the most appropriate controller to use for driving/racing sims which I am a beginner. I have used controllers 20 years ago and haven't used them since transitioning to PC gaming using the MNK exclusively. I realized that so much has changed since I used the original Xbox controller and very grateful to someone you to review/test new tech for us. I ordered the TM eSwap XR today after seeing your video review on it. Thank you.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad I could help! That was wonderful to read

  • @MrDfromjersey
    @MrDfromjersey7 ай бұрын

    My rankings for the controllers I’m currently using. 1. stealth ultra took a little getting used to but damn it’s so good playing Warzone with. 2. Scuff Envision Pro such a good controller and the software it comes with lets you customize the shit out of it. 3. Elite it’s a perfect Xbox controller but I’m on my third one since 2019 4. Dual sense edge solid controller but those two back buttons hold it back for me. 5. Razer so fucking big it makes my hands cramp after a while but it’s probably the best controller out for people with big hands.

  • @ChaplinDan
    @ChaplinDan7 ай бұрын

    Remember, every up vote is another point that might get used to helping the captain buy another camera that doesn't overheat.

  • @tkschrome487
    @tkschrome4877 ай бұрын

    Spiked my elite 1 after the bumper stopped registering after 8 months. Elite 1 white edition wouldn’t stay on after about 3-4 months. Elite 2 back paddle got soft and stopped working after about 8 months and by then the left stick was destroyed. I’ve had a scud instinct for almost a year now no issues. Also have a WolverineV2chroma amazing sticks durability and accuracy wise

  • @tkschrome487

    @tkschrome487

    7 ай бұрын

    The scuf came with a little RS drift to the right I will say that’s a pain but there are workarounds if you can solder

  • @marky3609
    @marky36097 ай бұрын

    I just got an Elite Series 2 from a pawn shop for $80 bucks. So far it works perfectly with no issues. So we'll see how long it lasts. Hopefully I don't have any issues with it decided after a long time if debating on wether or not to get to one to take the plunge ended up seeing one at a pawn shop for cheap and went for it.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    That’s awesome

  • @PatonCavaney
    @PatonCavaney7 ай бұрын

    Edit: epic intro mate Would be good if retailers actually had stock. This TB ultra is mad hot rn

  • @trappedintimesurroundedbye5477

    @trappedintimesurroundedbye5477

    7 ай бұрын

    they are about to get rid of physical media so good luck on expensive controllers

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    🥵 super hot

  • @katanamaru1
    @katanamaru17 ай бұрын

    I know you were showing these as Xbox controllers, but I want to mention that the Elite Series 2 is recognized in Steam Input. If the controller is in its 'default' profile it is possible to use Steam Input to bind the paddles that way. Not sure if the Scuf in recognized, and the Turtle doesn't need that since it can rebind via the screen.

  • @user-qz3zd4vg7l
    @user-qz3zd4vg7l7 ай бұрын

    Your channel is entertaining and informative. I love it!

  • @panda51829able
    @panda51829able7 ай бұрын

    That’s intro bar slaps hard my man 😂

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    So glad to hear that panda

  • @vsDrunkenYoda
    @vsDrunkenYoda7 ай бұрын

    Well Somebody has been waiting 🤗 for this video! I just slipped up for a minute and already over a hundred comments. I'll miss the good ol days but Cheers to the 100k+ subs👊🎅.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    I found you. Thanks for watching bro

  • @fdny219
    @fdny2195 күн бұрын

    @GamerHeavenOfficial so between the Elite 2 and Scuf Instinct Pro, you would pick the Scuf? I’m about to buy 1 of those 2

  • @Blank3k
    @Blank3k7 ай бұрын

    This video restored my faith in the Ultra controller, mines currently being RMA'd as it couldn't (as do many other Ultras) hit the diagonal menus in Baldurs Gate 3... Honestly, so many horror stories appearing on reddit with the controller, I was all but set on returning it for a refund when the new unit arrives but I'll stick with it after seeing these numbers. Everything from coil whine / burning, not working in BG3 (my issue +6 others reported same on reddit), disconnection issues, rough sticks, glitchy firmware. But, fingers crossed it was just a bad batch of controllers, the grinding people report on the sticks is also a thing but I did find just wiping the stem of sticks with a bit of cloth removed alot of dust that obviously built up in play which definitely resulted in it being smoother but yea, for sure something isn't up to par (at least on my unit) on the sticks smoothness after a day or so of use... makes it on par stick feel wise with the Standard controller rather than the Elite as it should be.

  • @abelke

    @abelke

    7 ай бұрын

    I’m hoping they fix up the issue with the left stick, otherwise I love this controller

  • @andrewkandelAK
    @andrewkandelAK7 ай бұрын

    Have the elite 2 starting to get stuck drift....again. about to pull the trigger and order a stealth ultra looks pretty impressive

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Good call brother.

  • @t-marvelous7906

    @t-marvelous7906

    7 ай бұрын

    Do it trust me... I'm in love with gaming again because of this controller

  • @sonnick
    @sonnick7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Still cant believe the TB doesn't have swappable sticks, stick tension or back grips, but the sticks hall effect sold it for me. Wish it were a bit heavier as well, but a great controller thus far.

  • @antx24

    @antx24

    5 ай бұрын

    you were forced to believe that heavier equals premium but that is not the case.

  • @johnconklin1934
    @johnconklin19347 ай бұрын

    Aye aye capitan! Intro had me rolling!

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it John!

  • @MansaMusa50
    @MansaMusa507 ай бұрын

    Great review buddy. So I've been through more elites than I can remember so decided to try the scuff instinct pro. Loved it but didn't like the back buttons as much. After that gave in I decided to head back to the elites. Went with the white elite but wasn't aware it was not as good. Had the same issue with the left stick as you but found a very easy fix. So far so good and I'd forgotten how good those rear paddles were. Might try stealth next. Looks ok but worried I won't like rear bumpers as much.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it!

  • @4etri
    @4etri5 ай бұрын

    Mentioning that those controllers are on shelves and you can basically find it in every store you see, kind of waters my eyes. Here in Eastern Europe, the only one store that offers them openly, is unable to tell me when I can receive my purchase. And is not like I have to wait for weeks. I actually have to wait months! I am already a month of wait for Elite Series 2 controller and no idea if it is going to come the next month as well.

  • @illuminodie
    @illuminodie7 ай бұрын

    Love my TB Ultra. I feel like the battery is closer to 6-8hrs, but it’s not a big deal to me bc I just throw it on the dock at night and I’m good to go. There’s also the Pro Aim option to lower the sensitivity that’s mappable which I like to use as a snipe button. Love the Envision Pro on PC. Hated the Elite 2 bc I had it for maybe 6 months before both sticks started drifting on a $200+ controller. Solid video as always Captain 🫡

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing my friend, the battery life is supposed to be 30 hours, with 2 to 3 hours of fast charge time. If you’re only getting 6 to 8 hours you should return that defective unit and get a new one

  • @Vraekon

    @Vraekon

    7 ай бұрын

    Hey , do you play any fighting games? Was curious on the dpad for them. Thanks

  • @illuminodie

    @illuminodie

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Vraekon No I don’t but the D pad is super clicky and responsive

  • @Offishu

    @Offishu

    7 ай бұрын

    I got 6-8 hours on mines as well with the setting "Full" on the power mode. I'm currently using "Eco" and 2 bars left after around 10 hours still testing though. Do you know if the power mode changes the polling rate? @@GamerHeavenOfficial

  • @user-bw3tv9gc4p

    @user-bw3tv9gc4p

    7 ай бұрын

    My controller also works for 8 hours. I have wired headphones connected

  • @skoposknight54
    @skoposknight547 ай бұрын

    The only problem I have with the Turtle Beach stealth ultra, is the back button is so close to the left thumbstick, while playing a game like destiny 2 trying to quickly utilize the button i have hit the thumbstick and moved the character, havent died because of it in game but something to beware of, I did buy the scuf instinct pro because of your reviews both controllers are amazing. Thanks for the videos.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    That makes sense

  • @THEREALTWISTEDINSANE
    @THEREALTWISTEDINSANE7 ай бұрын

    I still can't connect the stealth ultra to the app

  • @REJR90
    @REJR907 ай бұрын

    The tb ultra is my fav everything is perfect except for the small sticks so i threw on some skull and co grips and couldn't be happier

  • @victorlowe
    @victorlowe3 ай бұрын

    On the Elite 2, you CAN set a color for each profile for the home button so you have a better visual of which profile is active

  • @u1ti
    @u1ti2 ай бұрын

    Love the poetry in your intro

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    2 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that

  • @epicmike3915
    @epicmike39157 ай бұрын

    I returned the turtle beach. The battery life is not 30hrs in my experience. The screen would act wonky and not time out. The sticks not being replaceable are a deal breaker for me. Because the sticks are too short and small for your fingers. The controller feels very hollow and cheap in the hand. The triggers aren't mechanical but every other button is. Also even with an updated software I kept experiencing the controller freeze when fully charged on the dock. I got tired of reseting it. Major disappointment to me. I will await for the elite 3

  • @codylujan

    @codylujan

    7 ай бұрын

    this is exactly what I experienced from TB. I don't know why people like it. it feels like cheap plastic, hollow and quickly produced. feels like it costed them $20 to make and then they threw a $200 price tag on it to just make it competitive. Turtle beach has lost a ton of quality since the late 2000's. Cheap crap now. At least the elite series 2 feels well built.

  • @epicmike3915

    @epicmike3915

    7 ай бұрын

    @codylujan yeah I'm not sure why people are praising this controller. The vader 3 pro has a better build feel IMO.

  • @rodor14
    @rodor147 ай бұрын

    The fourth option and in my case the best one i've had so far is just customizing your controller with extreme rate's parts I installed on mine a new shell new buttons, the remapable back buttons and also they clicky hair triggers and it is still cheaper than the cheapest of those three controllers

  • @PreacH0921
    @PreacH09217 ай бұрын

    Is the input lag/ delay just as bad if you play plugged in with the scuf or the elite?

  • @Strengthoftenmen
    @Strengthoftenmen7 ай бұрын

    I bought the turtle beach two days ago and returned it today. Whilst performing the firmware update it bricked itself and stopped working. Back to scuff I go.

  • @jsavoni6478
    @jsavoni64787 ай бұрын

    Best controller reviews! Love the channel and you humor.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @jsavoni6478

    @jsavoni6478

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GamerHeavenOfficial I watch no other controller reviews! You are so thorough on your reviews and even go into more depth if you think you've confused people! I bought a aim controller based on your review.. and the mechanical buttons! Keep doing what you are doing!!

  • @mr_sn4k3s
    @mr_sn4k3s2 ай бұрын

    Hope valve release their own pro controller that has 4 rear buttons built in the same way as the steam deck itself cos nothing has been more comfortable than that absolute beast steam controller 2 please for the love of god

  • @Ashes2Ashes
    @Ashes2Ashes7 ай бұрын

    Watching the video now to see your thoughts, but owning all three and comparing them myself, I heavily lean the TB Ultra. Curious to see/ hear your thoughts through this!

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Good choice! 🎮

  • @Ashes2Ashes

    @Ashes2Ashes

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GamerHeavenOfficial heads up the firmware update just hit that adds the L3 and R3 mapping along with other fixes!

  • @theHeartlessNooB
    @theHeartlessNooB28 күн бұрын

    Hi, just got a Scuf controller, I am impressed with the way the analog sticks feel. However, the controller itself feels kind of cheap overall. For $200 it feels very similar to holding a $30 PowerA controller. I am using the SCUF on a PC, but not wireless. Is the input delay less if using it wired?

  • @danielm.595
    @danielm.595Ай бұрын

    21:02 What game is that? I think I've already seen it before, but I can't recall its name.

  • @DrgnRebrn
    @DrgnRebrn7 ай бұрын

    I cannot get the transmitter dongle for my Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra Controller to update, it errors out each time. I've tried updating from both xbox & pc with the same results. Had anyone else encountered this? I cannot find any support for this on the Turtle Beach support website.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    I was having a real pain in the ass myself updating both the controller and the dongle, however eventually it went through so hopefully it does the same for you

  • @kevinhorn4219
    @kevinhorn42197 ай бұрын

    Had to return my Turtle Beach Ultra Stealth after only 2 days of gaming. Was very disappointed with it. Was hoping for it to be the replacement of the Elite controllers. I hate the horrible build quality of the Elite Series. The Turtle Beach feels very cheap, and the connectivity was terrible on XBOX Series X.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Dang I’m really sorry to hear that Kevin that sounds like a terrible experience, it sounds like maybe you had a faulty unit because you should have rocksolid connection on the Xbox

  • @iZephiroth
    @iZephiroth6 ай бұрын

    The Turtle Beach controller with the Scuf triggers and the Elites swappable sticks would be perfect.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    6 ай бұрын

    So true, that would be a good tier gamepad, especially if it had HE modules you could still adjust the tension on, and like a 5 year warranty in case anything else broke.

  • @iZephiroth

    @iZephiroth

    6 ай бұрын

    @@GamerHeavenOfficial have you considered modding it with replacement thumbsticks to get rid of the grinding issue? I know eXtremeRate sells some metal ones that are Elite style so they’re interchangeable. I’m curious to see if they would be compatible with the Stealth Ultra.

  • @falkend1fox728
    @falkend1fox7285 ай бұрын

    Is it bad that Input Latency is what decides what controller I get 😂 that's why I love to game on the Dualsence/Edge controllers there average input lag is 4ms and on a 1ms response time/4ms input lag gaming monitor the average 7ms with my Elite Series 2 its really noticeable when going back ans fourth between the 2 consoles. So having a Xbox controller around the same input lag as the Edge is what I need personally. People that gane on just one console input lag isn't really a problem because your brain can learn it and confiscate for it.

  • @LucidMalody
    @LucidMalody7 ай бұрын

    Im subbing just because you included a kickin it old school reference 😂❤

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Love that movie

  • @acerock013
    @acerock0137 ай бұрын

    the amazon reviews for the Turtle Beach have a lot of complaints about battery life and grinding in the left stick. so...i'm kinda hesitant

  • @oOTheMastaOo240

    @oOTheMastaOo240

    7 ай бұрын

    Get it then return it if you don't like it. Its honestly the only real way to tell, reviews aren't enough. Im wasting so much time overthinking it

  • @mcdonaldz-sprite2353
    @mcdonaldz-sprite23537 ай бұрын

    Hey kev is having a high circulatory error bad ? I just got my HYPR controller and it’s got about 18-20% error when I do the circulatory test.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Generally lower is better, but 18-20 is actually nothing to worry about, it’s pretty common with potentiometer stick modules

  • @l.c.boogie1219
    @l.c.boogie12196 ай бұрын

    I have been equally as fortunate with my Elite Series 2. I am still on my original and have not had any stick drift with my Elite Series 2. After a year plus of consistent usage. I also have been using the Stealth Ultra for the past week and for the most part has been a very nice controller with the exception of the one time I lost connection in the middle of a session in COD MW3.

  • @ReDD0311
    @ReDD03117 ай бұрын

    still love my Scuf Reflex, better grip and feel than the Elite Series 2 and no more broke bumpers.. I had to send my scuf in at the 11 month mark for stick drift but I also play for several hours every day

  • @dionvandenberg
    @dionvandenberg7 ай бұрын

    Great stuff. Nice to see them paired up in a meaningful way and thanks for unlocking your brain at the end for an unfiltered conclusion. Still waiting for a seller in the Netherlands to actually have the Ultra in stock.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @dionvandenberg

    @dionvandenberg

    7 ай бұрын

    @@GamerHeavenOfficial okay, ordered one, but sadly had to return it. Battery life was awful, but another thing that bugged me was build quality: holding down on the directional pad locked it in place, preventing a roll to the right, the anti friction ring on the left stick wore down significantly in a few hours, and the display slanted to the right bottom. A real dissapointment for that price.

  • @addison99996
    @addison999967 ай бұрын

    Brilliant video, we appreciate all the hard work you put into your research. I haven't tried the TB Stealth Ultra. I used the TB Recon, and it was so-so. I have the Elite 2, I liked the gripping surface, and non-slip is great, but it is heavy. edit- After less than 6 months developed stick drift. I haven't tried the Scuf Instinct Pro, as I am A) Going through the reviews carefully, and B) It's a money thing at the moment. Great review as always, the Controller Captain outfit works on you-maybe it could be your signature? Just a thought.

  • @pianovoix

    @pianovoix

    3 ай бұрын

    hello , what have you done for your drift problem ? have you bought a new controller ? i am going through the reviews too :)

  • @addison99996

    @addison99996

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pianovoix held the thumbsticks in each direction, and loaded it with 99% rubbing alcohol on a q tip. Let it dry, then do the same thing again, but used dielectric grease. I did not disassemble the controller, as I don;t have the skill, tools, or patience for it. If all fails, then I simply replace. Still happy with the GameSir G7.

  • @An_Enraged_Pig
    @An_Enraged_Pig5 ай бұрын

    I’ve had elite controllers since day 1, I love them. Tried the scuf, traded in on day 2. I might try the turtle beach

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    5 ай бұрын

    Sounds like the Bible. What happens on day 3?

  • @An_Enraged_Pig

    @An_Enraged_Pig

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GamerHeavenOfficial maybe I try the turtle beach controller?

  • @jasoncraig2026
    @jasoncraig20267 ай бұрын

    I'm sending my TB stealth ultra back. It just feels too loose and cheap. The menu and start buttons are in odd locations as well. I'll stick to my Scuf Instict Pro, I've been using it for 2 years and it hasn't failed me.

  • @DDeeeez
    @DDeeeez7 ай бұрын

    Scuf has always been great quality with the best features. All of my scuf controllers dating back to the 360 days still work as new. Got a Elite 2 a few months ago and I’m already seeing stick drift

  • @Cognitoman

    @Cognitoman

    7 ай бұрын

    Same… I’ve bought 5 of them and all wrecked after 2-3 months

  • @Azalis1701
    @Azalis17017 ай бұрын

    I couldn't stand the bumpers on the Turtle Beach. Might just be my hand size but they were very awkward for me to hit and playing a souls game with it was very uncomfortable for me. I also wasn't a fan of the Xbox 360 style joysticks. I much more prefer the feel of the gripped edges on most modern controllers, and really wish it came with options for that. The joysticks overall just felt not very premium. I ended up going back to my Elite and continue to wait for something to replace it. The Turtle Beach with the GameSir G7 sticks and bumpers would be my all time favorite controller though.

  • @unforgivencaleb528
    @unforgivencaleb5287 ай бұрын

    I do enjoy the Elite Series 2 controller, but I agree that QC definitely needs some improvement (ESPECIALLY with the Core controller). Contemplating getting a TB Stealth Ultra due to your recommendation alone.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @F_8_T_A_L
    @F_8_T_A_L6 ай бұрын

    I ordered a Scuf Instinct Pro Xbox X controller Around January 9th Have had it 1 month, and the Face Playe has already faded to white . It’s an Optic Texas Controller

  • @goldeneyefleming
    @goldeneyefleming7 ай бұрын

    top video i saw your two videos of turtle beach ultra and now this video….i think i’ll take the Turtle Beach Ultra Top..thanks for you time and for your professional work

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes sir

  • @SkateorDie2788
    @SkateorDie27887 ай бұрын

    I’ve owned 7 elite controllers had gen 1 and 2 I always had high stick drift and eventually the bumpers would go bad.

  • @jayrizzim
    @jayrizzim5 ай бұрын

    I don't know what to say except I love ending about the channel. Keep it up fam!

  • @jackasamurai9778
    @jackasamurai97785 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure how you kept me watching this whole video but you did it.... Well played sir

  • @Rave.-
    @Rave.-7 ай бұрын

    Eyyyy new intro. I like it.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad you like it

  • @sheriff1f
    @sheriff1f7 ай бұрын

    On my second Stealth Ultra, Elite Series 2 is still by far the best, more features, a shift button, and 7 bindings. Can someone tell me how the Stralth Ultra makes aiming and shooting better. The Ultra is way over prices. We a paying $120 for the hall effect! sticks?

  • @dezkenob1
    @dezkenob17 ай бұрын

    Out of interest, what Thumbstick caps do you have on the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra in the video? They look like Scuf from the pattern on them?

  • @MadClowdz
    @MadClowdz7 ай бұрын

    Not even an honorable mention for the Revolution X on the circularity test with 0% error?? Also waiting on my Hypr for like 10 years now...

  • @SeanMcKay
    @SeanMcKay3 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the depth you go to on your reviews of controllers. Thoughts on the Stealth Ultra vs the Victrix BFG Pro Xbox? Kinda whittle it down to those two for my next purchase, but would love discussion of a direct comparison...

  • @squidMB
    @squidMB5 ай бұрын

    Just bought a instinct pro and from personally using other pro controllers i find this is the best one despite the higher than normal price. Did come with 1 year warranty instead of 6 months which is nice

  • @cameraman1234567890
    @cameraman12345678907 ай бұрын

    On Full Power setting with the Battery Life, I got 8 Hours with RGB Maxed out at almost 50% battery. That's still pretty good. If people are only getting 8 hours total on the battery, they got a lemon. In ECO Mode and making sure RGB is Off, I'm getting much longer. If you have short battery life, I would return it and get a new one. Love my stealth ultra. It's definitely something to get used to, especially me coming from a PS5 Controller I was using on PC. This controller has alot great going for it, certainly its not cheap and isn't perfect, it's still impressive and I like it alot.

  • @xrawszn349
    @xrawszn3497 ай бұрын

    im a hudge playstation controller guy... but the edge doesnt have full support on pc... the elite 2 is 70 euros here in the netherlands so ill give it a try

  • @optiksillusive
    @optiksillusive4 ай бұрын

    I love the elite series 2 but the bumpers keep dying and no longer respond consistently. I replaced it in December and it’s already doing the same thing a few months later..

  • @corystone5933
    @corystone59337 ай бұрын

    thats the kind of intro i love

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    That’s the kind of comment I love

  • @tobinhugny-farr4424
    @tobinhugny-farr44247 ай бұрын

    the directional pad on the scuf pro is swappable, just fyi, i dont know why they even make them swappable, i like the stock xbox controller direction wheel the best, lol, awesome vudeo!!

  • @Gankhausen
    @Gankhausen7 ай бұрын

    My first Elite 2 lasted a long while. It had an issue with the right thumbstick. I then went through three RMA refurbs with issues until they just sent me a new one. Haven't had an issue since for 3 years.

  • @chrishernandez1109
    @chrishernandez11094 ай бұрын

    Had an elite 2 for a while. Unfortunately my right bumper started being non responsive then stick drift set in. Just bought the stealth ultra yesterday I’m excited to see how this ends up working out for me

  • @theringmaster3684
    @theringmaster36847 ай бұрын

    I had my first Scuf with no issues, so it’s kinda hard not to stay with them.

  • @s0r480
    @s0r4807 ай бұрын

    I've been using the stock 360 controller since I got a xbox 360 way back and just this year finally got a GuliKit King Kong Pro, so I just recently got into this whole Controller game, but it's just sick to see we're getting some feature rich controllers and many of them being multi-platform. Really appreciate you keeping us up to date and putting dem controllers to the test!

  • @Hardstix
    @Hardstix7 ай бұрын

    Just picked up my elite 2. I really hope when i get home i don’t run into problems like so many had. Love your videos!!!

  • @jake-ut8se

    @jake-ut8se

    7 ай бұрын

    Be light on the bumpers.

  • @Hardstix

    @Hardstix

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jake-ut8se gonna probably bind them to back buttons. Just to try and avoid the whole thing 😂

  • @abidingdude222

    @abidingdude222

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Hardstix but point is... you shouldn't have to....

  • @Hardstix

    @Hardstix

    2 ай бұрын

    @@abidingdude222 this is true. Glad i did. Back buttons went out and getting replaced now. lol

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar6 ай бұрын

    M$ quality control for the Elite series has been an absolute hilarious farce to bare witness to firsthand. My current Elite 2, god bless her, is 2 years old, this ones been to the Elite controller vet 4 times, and shes the 3rd Elite series 2 controller Ive had. The first one broke from me getting so mad at the face buttons sticking, I skill issued it into a door frame. The second one, wound up being the stem warrenty, for which I genetically sequenced my current one from. Through trial and failure, I repeatedly claimed warranty against various issues regarding bumper buttons double inputting, to getting it back with the other bumper not inputting at all, to getting it back with the face buttons literally stuck pressed down under the shell. The last warranty claim I lucked out as it was the very last month of the warranty. And they actually managed to return back to me a fully functioning controller (not a new replacement mind you). But alas, the facebuttons are beginning to stick under the shell again. As for the Elite 1. I have a graveyard.

  • @Hexic26
    @Hexic266 ай бұрын

    Just got the stealth and wow. Been using elite controllers for a long time now, the stealth is definitely and upgrade. So repsonsive, clicks feel great and it just looks so damn good. I dont like TB products normally, but they rocked this one in my opinion.

  • @martyn94ma
    @martyn94ma3 ай бұрын

    I've had these controllers at least once (2 elites, both broke within a year) and the others either sold or returned. The best controller I've had is the razer controller. I had 2 of the 1 gen and on my second v2 chroma! Definitely the best option for competitive gamers where all the buttons are like the pc mouse click literally instant!

  • @Vraekon
    @Vraekon7 ай бұрын

    Has anybody used the TB Steatlh Ultra with fighting games? I am curious on how the dpad is with fighting games. It just looks different than most dpads.

  • @Gashtalf

    @Gashtalf

    7 ай бұрын

    Dpad on the Stealth Ultra is absolute garbage. Lots of pre-travel in any direction before getting to a hard stop which is before the actuation. Also, and this is the worst part, the d-pad doesn't have a pronounced enough pivot, which means you can press down in the middle of the d-pad with your thumb and cause multiple directions to be pushed at once, plus, if you push down on the dpad, it makes it harder to move between opposite directions or perform rotations. Razer had the same issue with the Raion when that first came out, and they were crucified for it, but TB is getting a pass for doing the same thing with the Stealth Ultra, or maybe reviewers are not noticing it cause they only play CoD. The d-pad on the Stealth Ultra is an inexcusable embarassment.

  • @Vraekon

    @Vraekon

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Gashtalf Thanks, yes i play mainly rpgs and some mortal kombat. My grips are peeling like crazy on elite 2 and was hoping i could hold out until the Elite 3 comes out which i think it might next hoiday season, its just due too. I know Victrix has their Xbox pro controller coming out in February so may give that a shot eventhough some people say it feels cheap. To me its all all about comfort and back button placement. Thanks for the input, i will hold off on this controller.

  • @Gashtalf

    @Gashtalf

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Vraekon It's so hard to find a good controller for fighting games to be honest: it feels like nobody can do a good dpad. I've moved on to a leverless fight stick now, which I use for fighting games, side scrollers and everything that doesn't need analog sticks. It just takes some practice.

  • @jake-ut8se

    @jake-ut8se

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@GashtalfI hear great things about 8bitdo's dpads.

  • @jake-ut8se

    @jake-ut8se

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Vraekonmight take a look at 8bitdos lineup if you want a nice dpad

  • @Nihil660
    @Nihil6607 ай бұрын

    hey bro I'm really torn between the gamesir G7 SE and the gamesir T4 Kaleid. Which do you think would be better for exclusively racing games?

  • @pyroyuy
    @pyroyuy7 ай бұрын

    Oh I'm excited to see the results.

  • @Veggie6Nubz
    @Veggie6Nubz2 ай бұрын

    I have had the same stick issues out of box for multiple Elite 2s (the normal one, not the core) Will not buy another one for that alone. Additionally even if they didnt come out of box that way, the start stick drifting within 3 months of purchase. Looking to try out an HE and hope for the best.

  • @Th3Maver1ck
    @Th3Maver1ck7 ай бұрын

    Should I get the turtle beach stealth ultra or the scuf envision pro? Need help, can’t figure out which one.

  • @theringmaster3684

    @theringmaster3684

    7 ай бұрын

    Scuf, all day every day!😁

  • @Th3Maver1ck

    @Th3Maver1ck

    7 ай бұрын

    @@theringmaster3684 I’m hearing lots of turtle beach. Also seeing a lot of issues with the scuf envision

  • @JRSLASH
    @JRSLASH2 ай бұрын

    on my elite series 2, my left bumper is busted, my grips are peeling and a paddle button on the back is broken

  • @kaice1119
    @kaice11197 ай бұрын

    which do u think is the best one for pc? I dont have a expensive controller before and duablity is a big deal breaker to me, and I have seen all of the controllers have many issues and quality control problems, I just wanna buy a premium controller but it's surffering to make my choice.😢

  • @CptAloevera
    @CptAloeveraАй бұрын

    My elite 2 s bimpers just broke and now I cant decide between the envision pro and the stealth ultra

  • @NickleNinja2
    @NickleNinja27 ай бұрын

    would love for you to review this against the Scuf Envision and PS Edge for PC gamers. esp the input lag.

  • @GamerHeavenOfficial

    @GamerHeavenOfficial

    7 ай бұрын

    Oooo, I got you fam

  • @bobbyjr7835
    @bobbyjr78357 ай бұрын

    Had the original Elite right bumper went after 6 months replaced it myself, then the stick drift happened after owning it for little over and year, switch to a Power A Fusion 2 one of the rear paddles just died and the rubber on the sticks also replaced the sticks with some new grippy thumb sticks but I have own this controller for over 2 years and leaning towards the new Turtle Beach Stealth.

  • @josevazquez3317
    @josevazquez33176 ай бұрын

    Are you going to do a comparo for the Turtle Beach and the Envision? Especially with both getting software updates to fix initital issues I'm curious whose doing better right now from your point of view I am in the market for both but want to make the best choice.

  • @SiskoSvK
    @SiskoSvK7 ай бұрын

    I wish companies focus more on quality of materials rather than gimmick features.

  • @redlew012
    @redlew0127 ай бұрын

    I've gone through a couple of elite 2 myself until I started repairing them myself. once I started repairing them myself they last 3 times longer than brand new ones.

  • @tristanbreeding6934
    @tristanbreeding69347 ай бұрын

    I have had 3 elites over the last 3 years 2 full price elites and a core and they have all broke in under a year of use rather that be paddles,trigger stops, etc my favorite I have switched to is the razer wolverine v2 tournament edition I’ve had it for about year and a half now and have had no problems out of it and it’s around 80 to 100$ cheaper than these but I have been interested in the new tb so u may try it out

  • @504Trey

    @504Trey

    7 ай бұрын

    My Elite Series 2 came out the box with stick drift 💀

  • @william10140711ify
    @william10140711ify6 ай бұрын

    I still have my original series 2 controller not a single problem with the sticks LB and RB buttons though not so much