Schiff on Bach's BWV 826: It's Not Metronomic. It's A Little Bit Drunk
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In this clip, Schiff talks about giving the Capriccio a more comical sound. András Schiff's full 45 minute masterclass on Bach's Partita No.2, recorded at the International Musicians' Seminar, Prussia Cove, is available to buy here:
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(Student: Andres Carciente)
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It is not legit to have a masterclass with Schiff without yam-pam-pam.
The student is exceptionally good!
I wish I always had a Schiff on my shoulder telling me how to play better
@drumclef3241
2 жыл бұрын
Pet schiff
He looks like a baby angel from a Renaissance painting who grew up. Probably why he's so good at Bach.
@agamaz5650
7 жыл бұрын
Ozgur Akkaya that is a good thing!!
@mariacasemyr
6 жыл бұрын
The boy is amazing!!!
@ir0n2541
6 жыл бұрын
lol
@shaythiele1320
6 жыл бұрын
Love it lol
@handsomechuck1
6 жыл бұрын
lol He does look a bit cherubic, doesn't he?
I like it a lot when Schiff explains about Bach. He has really a deep understanding ("... like a bear dance ..."). Great!
This student is superb....
It is unbelievable that they play on the same instrument. Their tone is just so different.
@mariacasemyr
6 жыл бұрын
Imre Pólik I'm not an expert and I admire Schiff, but it actually sounds more beautiful when the student plays Bach ...
@agamaz5650
6 жыл бұрын
MariaCasemyr MezzoSoprano Schiff is much better but the student is really good as well
@dragonpiano1876
5 жыл бұрын
I guess the student is still a little too "cautious", Schiff is more firm, which results in notes that are a little longer and louder in average
@zavilov
4 жыл бұрын
And that is the true miracle of the piano. No two people will ever sound identical even on the same instrument even on the same day.
@naxo9975
4 жыл бұрын
@@mariacasemyr i think schiff exaggerates and plays that way on purpose so the student can understand faster
hahaha At 0:35 seems like he is playing the pianola and immediately Schiff stoped that shit.
This short video is really an eye-opener. You get an understanding of the meaning of "Capriccio". Most interpretations of this piece are indeed too "metronomic". E.g., Martha Argerichs interpretation is certainly technically perfect but maybe this pianistic brilliance is not what Bach intended.
@IntellikronTech
2 жыл бұрын
Bach never sounds good when playing his music out of time or "drunk" too much.
amazing!! Schiff is the man
Muy bueno Javier sos un genio Felipa Rótula BA Argentina
I love this clip
What I will say about these masterclasses is musicians seem to not be very good learners. If this was a sports masterclass, the student would ask as much to the teacher as the teacher to the student. A good student seeks feedback and clarification...Schiff is incredible and these students just seem to watch and submit as immediately as possible.
@samuelrobinson205
2 жыл бұрын
You're right. When I was younger I used to ask questions during masterclasses and then someone told me it's generally considered good etiquette to just stay quiet and take on board what the master says - keep questions to your lessons with your normal teacher. Now I think about it it seems a bit of an old-fashioned teaching method
@mercoid
Жыл бұрын
They have music to play and get through. Students asking questions would make the session hours longer. I’m sure Mr. Schiff doesn’t come cheap and has limited time in his busy schedule. The Master teaches, the students play and do what the master instructs them to do. The exceptional students will sort out the details in due time. The Master, teachers and institution know this. This is not an instant process. If in the future one of these students is told that their playing is reminiscent of Schiff, they will instantly know that they failed to challenge themselves enough to have developed into their own musician…, or never really had “it” to begin with. It’s a long cruel road. And is kept that way by design by the pedagogy. Believe it or not, there IS wisdom in the process. The process is there to develop the tiny percentage of students who have the potential to become something very special. Everyone else is politely swept aside.
Left hand at 1:27, love it!
I LOVE...ADORE Bach
Bach schrieb hier Capriccio statt Gigue. So wollte er diesen Satz kennzeichnen, dass bei dieser Partita etwas eigenartiges im Gange ist, nämlich: sie ist die einzige mit nicht 7 Sätzen ausgestattet, sondern nur mit 6!!!!! Er wollte, dass jeder merkt, dass dadurch die Satz-Anzahl der 6 Partiten nicht (6 x 7) 42, sondern nur 41 ist, was die mittlere Bach-Zahl ist (J=9; S. 18, B=2, A=1,C=3, H=8). -Jetzt weiss es András auch (von mir..:-) ALLE 6-er Zyklen sind auf ähnliche Art und Weise unterschrieben.
@AvntXardE
6 жыл бұрын
Es gilt aber J=10 und S=19. Das heisst JSBACH = 10+19+2+1+3+8 = 43. Ausserdem ist Partita I B-Dur BWV 825 auch nur in 6 Sätzen, das heisst wir haben für die Clavierübung Teil 1 folgendes 2*6+4*7 = 40.
Very good
I like the way the student plays. What is the student's name and I would like to know if he made a video of this partita?
@mateusnaama4545
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Fred! I'm quite late... anyway, the student is Andres Carciente, and yes, there is a video of his rendition of this Partita.
this is magic
Watching this for 4 minutes makes me feel utterly inept and dimwitted.
is there a whole record of this masterclass?
Anybody know what comment is said at 2:21 in?
@tom_szcz_org
7 жыл бұрын
He says: Now, forte!
@marcusrjames3072
5 жыл бұрын
Forte
Wow..... we are watching civilization being created before our very eyes.....
@Moorcheh
3 жыл бұрын
Please elaborate i found this comment very interesting!
@levaslevas
3 жыл бұрын
@@Moorcheh Well.... my comment was more for reflection than a statement of a fact, but here we go: Playing a piece with technical excellence is already difficult, but playing a piece well, while also playing it with "soul", is significantly rarer to find. "Soul" is by nature a subjective topic, and cannot really be taught, only awakened inside the player or listener. One cannot precisely explain what it means to play "with soul", but one can more precisely describe what it means to play "without soul". For example, there are recordings of BWV 826 on youtube where the pianist plays blisteringly fast, but does nothing to add emotion or "life" to the piece (pauses, fermata(?), fluctuations in volume as a piece becomes more energetic), then there are recordings of players like Schiff. To me, playing with "soul" means one of two things -- either playing a piece with your own unique interpretation, making the listener feel as if they had just heard something new (while not defacing the piece of music in the process), or it could mean preforming a piece in a way that makes the audience feel as if it was exactly how the creator used to while they were alive, as if the player was overtaken by the creator's spirit for the duration of the performance. EDIT: I explained my answer, but forgot to answer the question. What we are witnessing here is this "awakening" of the pupil's "soul", by the elder instructor - the passing on of the flame of creation from one roost to another. Atrophy is easy, anarchy takes little effort to keep so. Despite also being mammals and technically "animals", humanity made itself free of the label "animal" through incrementally increasing order and complexity.
Came here for Harry and Lloyd. Stayed for Bach. Nice thumbnail.
wonderful 1:52 we can hear the improvement
But YES! :)
0:25 1:09
Sehr lebendig! Prof.Schiff könnte oft in die Heuriger sein.Joke!!
How do they by heart so well though
@levim.3505
5 жыл бұрын
Muscle memory. When you play it, you don’t even really think about what notes you are playing.
@agamaz5650
5 жыл бұрын
@@levim.3505 yee it's like meditation
@luizmelofilho
4 жыл бұрын
@@levim.3505 but you shall know the notes. Using muscle memory as the principal and almost absolute memory will fuck you up in recitals
@synthdude
4 жыл бұрын
Lots of dedicated PRACTICE!!!
Teaser clip :-(
Even a Schiff will do a little show off in front of the ladies ; )
Yapap yapping rappap yapap
Schiff - clever clocks
people what do u think is the best Bach piece to play on the piano?
@cake869
6 жыл бұрын
Agamaz every piece is very good , you can learn a lot from each of them , but if you're starting out now I'd say you should start by the minuets or the inventions , they should build you up to start playing more complex pieces like the preludes and fugues with 3 voices , then with 4 voices , etc
@agamaz5650
6 жыл бұрын
lol i play far more advanced pieces than minuet xd
@cake869
6 жыл бұрын
Agamaz try the Goldberg variations then xD
@agamaz5650
6 жыл бұрын
Cake good idea!
@agamaz5650
6 жыл бұрын
Cake I've played aria when I was younger
metronomic: mechanically regular (as in action or tempo)
3:36 *looking for reactions*
@MurciellagoSV
5 жыл бұрын
Also 2:05, which is actually cute. Wouldn't expect this from him.
@rosadovelascojosuedavid1894
4 жыл бұрын
@@MurciellagoSV absolutely
@thereyougoagain1280
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that he’s focusing on the music, and reacting to that. And when he realizes he’s in front of a crowd, he stops, embarrassed.
I didn't know John Oliver was a pianist!
@grahamthomason8796
2 жыл бұрын
He looks more like Fred Armisen with John Oliver's hair
No es metronomico
no
Este Show de masterclases, me da vergüenza ajena......uno toca, y El maestro se sienta y Lo hace mejor....
Student better than teacher... At least here.
@chester6343
Жыл бұрын
Then obviously you don't know who Schiff is, it's not even close
...Bach a la gypsy...... not very German.....
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Nobody can dance with an unstable tempo.
@jonathandifiore4478
7 жыл бұрын
Virtuosi BH every dance has its drunk moment
@banjuja58
7 жыл бұрын
It's a "capriccio" not a dance movement.
@ashishthomas5562
6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Di Fiore Most dance suites, and dances by composers such as Chopin and Liszt and Beethoven were inspired by dances but never actually meant to be danced to
@agamaz5650
6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@juandavidforerocaviedes1968
6 жыл бұрын
If you want to dance you can listen a Tango instead.