For those who came for the Ford build the E3 commercial starts at 5:16 and goes till 14:02. You are welcome.

@TheJacool23

3 жыл бұрын

legend

@cliffdaddy126

3 жыл бұрын

You the real mvp

@canabox7112

3 жыл бұрын

Haha just a gimmick

@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm

3 жыл бұрын

they are jumping beano heads = really poor production of 4 bean mix !

@Magnacharger07

3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice the sweep was longer with the e3 plugs I dunno doesn't seem more efficient to block the flame front 3 times more than a single ground strap plug? I dunno..

None of my “extra” or “leftover parts” are ever as good as theirs.

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

@@skinlab4239 it's called marketing for parts makers. They write these things off on their annual promo budgets. Plus most guys don't have the knowledge and skill to build an engine which is why the crate is so popular. So having piles of spares is not exactly common.

@lexriordan8566

3 жыл бұрын

@@bmstylee u r a bit of a knowitall ain't ya boi

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

@@lexriordan8566 guilty. That's just my experience watching friends build engines. Most people can't change oil let alone build an engine. I probably could because it's a lot of attention to detail and some mechanical aptitude. However I wouldn't hold my breath for it lasting 100k miles. It's like building an ar15. Yes I can build one. And I have built a few. But unless I'm using top shelf parts buying is cheaper. Same with engine building. A lot of times buying is cheaper unless you are doing something on the higher end of the spectrum. And buying you get a known item. Opposed to building yourself which without some solid knowledge isn't easy.

@rileyk99

3 жыл бұрын

Haha "The block is a early 70's FE found in a field in BFE with a crack, evidence of a blown head gasket and heavily worn pistons, from the looks of it it was run out of oil dozens of times and then parked out back for a decade. The oil pan has been bashed in and...."

@stevenmoreno131

3 жыл бұрын

That ain't a lie all my spare parts are bent melted and crusty or has a window in it

Gee, my “leftover parts” normally consists of nuts and bolts from the engine I put together that I have no clue where they go😒

Stacy David watching this at home "Shit... THAT's where I left that."

@PureCountryof91

3 жыл бұрын

Probably. I miss that guy's show

@mramseyISU

3 жыл бұрын

@@PureCountryof91 if you have Amazon prime Stacy’s new show Gears has a bunch of free episodes available.

Episode is messed up. After about 6 mins it goes to the junkyard LS. STOP SMOKING IN HE EDIT ROOM BOYS!!! 😂😂

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

It goes back to Ford later but this build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

I hope that other project is the 300 in-line 6

@Skitter302

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping to see more of that soon.

@markmartinfan62

3 жыл бұрын

It's a torque monster!

@161Sheriff

3 жыл бұрын

I have I 300 in my rat rod with a small cam EFI exhaust manifolds and 3 carter Yf carburetors. It runs hard for a 6. And still really smooth

@markmartinfan62

3 жыл бұрын

@@161Sheriff, I wish I could remember what the magazine was when I was younger (mid 60s) but they told how to get 2 hp per cubic inch out of a 6 cylinder.

@ruby20003628

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 95 f150 with the 300 efi Was wondering what mods would be great for more power All stock motor, about 405k miles Thinking about pulling the motor and putting parts in it, just don't know where to start

What happened to the straight six build would like to see a full build on it

Look out now everyone run for a bigger carb cause the Dyno says. Never mind the smaller carb will give better drive ability and throttle response

@rod928s4

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree Mark. I wish they had mentioned that point.

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

So will properly jetting the larger carb. The engine will take what it needs and anything else is surplus. No different that installing larger injectors for that power adder you plan to add on fuel injected cars. As long as the ECU has the proper parameters, drivability and throttle response will remain largely unchanged. Same principals apply to carbs. The guys on Engine Masters have also addressed this and they got similar results.

Remember the spark plugs called splitfire... they were the hot plug to have in the late 80s early 90s😂😂

This happens to me all the time, I start building a ford then my ADHD kicks in and I move on to an LS. Sometimes I forget to eat lunch.

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

Forgetting lunch? That's living dangerously.

@LeachimSagrav333

3 жыл бұрын

Still building a ford with that ls!

Pat and Steve brule have a wealth of knowledge.

Nice work guys, love your videos, I would like to see a video in the future of engine “fails” things that went wrong in the Dyno

I can't wait for more on the 300 6 but I really hope you guys keep up this beater ford thing I'd love to see a high torque gas saver 360fe build for a 72 ford f250 I think that would be a very immersive build what with the gas prices shooting up at the time and the 390 and 460 becoming gas hogs and no one pays attention to the 360 fe lol

I would still go in and increase the ring gaps for boost or nitrous oxide regardless of how stout the stock internals are.

Gotta love Pocket Protector Pat....lol....

Always good info ...keep up the great work ...👍💪😎👊

Thanks guys, great content ...

Might this have been the stock Iron block from project Little Black & Blue several years back?? If I remember right they stripped most of it to go on a Dart block for stage 3?

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

I thought they changed the internals in stage 2. That thing was a monster in stage 3 trim.

I think the left over [off the shelf parts]are from summits shelf, that they had sitting for a year or so,good to see a Ford vid

You guys are always fun to watch.

This reminds me of the time I found a dollar bill in an old jacket and it looked to be in good shape so I decided to spend it.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Found a $50 bill in a toilet seat box in a store and... well... same story...

I honestly absolutely definitely positively love for these guys to do a full power build on my Ford 250ci engine.

great video guys

Man I really love this show

note to lazy management. Try putting a numbered tag on engines lying around and then have a notebook listing what the heck that engine is.

@dfabeagle718

3 жыл бұрын

probably been through a few hosts and management too if nobody can remember where it came from.

12:15 I never agreed with using blended race fuel when trying to showcase paid sponsor spark plugs. Run it on 93, jet and set timing accordingly.

Find a factory roller block.... Stuff a flat tappet cam in it. The smaller cam made more peak because the LSA was 112 vs the wider 114 on the "bigger" cam. If the bigger cam had moved in the right direction, say 110 LSA, it would have made more power everywhere, despite the intake restriction. But then I don't know why anyone would slap a flat cam into a block that was made for a roller? Don't need break-in or have to worry about wiping out a lobe. Perhaps instead on installing a starter see if you can scrounge up an old crank handle off a Model T?

I'm curious... I've seen a bunch of stuff on different type and style spark plugs before but I've never seen anything on plug gaps. I would be curious to see what the difference is as the gap narrows or expands.

I hope the other project you need parts for is the damn in-line 6 I have been waiting 4 weeks on

Very nice

Great video!! Could you guys do a Ford 292 Y-block build and dyno run? Would love to see some old iron like what's in my 63 F100 that is waiting for a rebuild.

fun thanks guys

Wow I really Love this this. I had a 600 Holley on my 440. I put a 700 double pumper on it. Wow. let the good times roll. Baby. !!!

Had to sneak in another LS test. 😡 If you advertise a SB Ford test please keep it a SB Ford test. Sick having LS shoved into everything.

@Kstang09

3 жыл бұрын

Show me on the doll where the affordable, reliable power hurt you ;)

@tomhamilton9140

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kstang09 between the bailout costing taxpayers over 11 bullion and the remaining years after paying for the non stop corporate welfare they have received costing an average of over four billions a year that should be enough. Now that GM has teamed up with China how much worse can it get? Would you like Ford stuff shoved into every LS build ?

@mickangio16

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't appreciate the LS plug in the middle of the Ford video, either, but my big question is "50+ hp increase with carb/manifold swap on the Chevy?"

@mickangio16

3 жыл бұрын

Ok. Sorry. I seen cam swap, too.

Those E3 plugs never worked in any of the vehicles I used them. (Non of the vehicles were high compression/high performance)

@AndyFromm

3 жыл бұрын

Tv magic

@pablotharpalo5685

3 жыл бұрын

I *might* understand if they gap it to run hotter and on the boosted or high compression application, but I can tell you first-hand Fords don't exactly like E3.

@baezn88

3 жыл бұрын

@@pablotharpalo5685 I tried in several gm applications and nissan vehicles and made it run like trash. Money down the drain.

@pablotharpalo5685

3 жыл бұрын

@@baezn88 so I'm not the only one hahaha. Good to know. I'll stick to NGK or Motorcraft personally for all of my Fords

@baezn88

3 жыл бұрын

@@pablotharpalo5685 so far, the NGK worked well for me. Iridium plugs 😎👍

man i wish you guys wouldnt push those garbage plugs

Why didn't you run a roller cam in that roller cam block ford?

@danmyers9372

3 жыл бұрын

Assume it’s because they didn’t have a roller cam laying around. Guessing all they had was that tappet cans. I agree it’s dumb to run a flat tappet in a roller block.

I have pulled more e3 plugs because of miss fire on LS engines and the ac plug you guys tested was not the factory platinum plug like the ls comes from the factory the e3 will give miss fires in gen three hemi engines as well I know you guys need sponsor to keep the show going hopefully some good ones will come

@crazeguy26

3 жыл бұрын

I'll test E3 on my F23A and see what happens. I had one engine that was not happy about them.

@richdouche8253

10 ай бұрын

Honestly the only thing the plug test proved was that those particular e3 plugs were a better match than those particular AC plugs they used, in that build.

Very cool

Hell, Ive got a 302 and a set of heads just laying around the shop your welcome to fill with parts for me. 8-)

@masterofnonetv8361

3 жыл бұрын

I do also. I believe I have this same block that came out of an 87 ltd and some aluminum heads but I'm missing the intake stuff. Planning on putting it in my 66 mustang!

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

This build made no HP!

It would be cool to see a test with the compu tronix dis ignition

Sounds like you need a method of tracking things like engines and what has been done to them.

@danareynolds1786

3 жыл бұрын

As usual, they're full of it. This build was planned out. As is all of them.

@bluegrassman3040

3 жыл бұрын

They are all paid actors and they follow their script to a T...

Whould love you guys to get your hands on an aussie v8 308 304 or 355

Would a larger carb spacer help instead changing the manifolds?

@backinblck1

3 жыл бұрын

It will to a degree but the problem is runner length and port velocity. The dual plane they are running has long runners and the stacked layout works well at lower RPM but because of the indirect path to the cylinder head the air charge has to make several direction changes impeding flow. The spacer will only give you more plenum volume so you still run into the issue sf the air having to make several turns at the high rpm where the direct path improves performance.

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

It would help a little. But that intake is a bottle neck and the only way to fix that is to change it out for one with more runner volume. Then you need to decide if you want torque = long runner or higher RPM horsepower = short runner.

Interesting, but do you have any comparison between the aftermarket heads for Pontiac’s? My suggestion would be out of the box and cnc porting. Now I would suggest a 455 or so just for fun.

It would be cool to see thesd heads on a 351, with a cam more in the middle, like a 220/230

We found this $1500 remanufactured block with 10 miles on it in our shop. So we though we would see what other random parts we could find in our million dollar shop.... Oh loook we found about $4000 in parts just laying around. I wonder how well it will run with these "scavenged" parts. That billet cam degree wheel costs as much as a 302 rebuild kit.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Plus... This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

I bet Pat is one of those guy that takes 5 minutes of fiddling from starting the car to actually putting the car in gear and driving away.

So just how much air was the engine pulling, and what was the horrible dip in the curve with the first camshaft?

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

You noticed they ignored that also? This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!! Also, HP curve was still rising when they cut it of...

I wonder what that dip in the power curve of the first cam in the ford is? Valve train harmonics?

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

That left me wondering the same thing.

@Frosty_Saiyajin

3 жыл бұрын

The first cam provided too much lift for the valve springs so that they dropped off around 5 grand

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

Valve float.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Bad carb. jetting. Actors pretending to be mechanical. This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

If e3 plugs really are that efficient, why is every manufacturer struggling to meet emissions using them?

@danmyers9372

3 жыл бұрын

Total marketing hype.

Have you guys ever tried Canton mecca oil filters? I used to remember that race car people used to use them. If possible can you show us those filters on the show?

May I stop by your shop for a scavenger hunt???? My place does not come close to yours and I have a few projects needing help. Thanks for posting these shows and the info.

Much more exciting watching the 500hp SBF 347 Stroker video from a year ago.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Something was very wrong with this build!

Pat where did you get that gasket scraper at.

Mr Pat, is exhoust back pressure needed or not? For stock 3800 pre series 1 atmospheric engine without any turbos or supercharger.

Enjoyed that. A complaint, where is the dyno results for that mopar with the trick flow heads, Cmon guys!!!!!

Where can you find 93 octane? I live in Arizona and we need that here, given the high temperatures we live through all summer.

@danmyers9372

3 жыл бұрын

In the south where this is filmed.

if its a 14 mm plug threads try the NGK plugs for a 2002 jeep cherokee 4.0 has a longer tower and a longer hook for an electrode . Will bring plug away from head for less chance of arc and closer to center of piston for better fuel air burn

Haha those E3 plugs are just a gimmick

Put 2 different size rocker arms on. 1.6 on the intake side and a 1.7 on the exhaust side considering that SB Fords exhaust usually don't flow well plus it would help with valve shrouding.

Size of carb is irrelevant. The engine will take what it needs. It's like installing larger injectors in preparation for a future power adder. It might have 900 CFM available, but if it doesn't need it, it will not use it. Wrong jetting will kill horsepower and can cause engine damage by washing out the cylinder walls but not a larger carb. I'm glad you addressed this because I've seen far too many arguments on this subject. The guys on Engine Masters also addressed this.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Anyway this build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

ive heard those e3's are dogpoop

@pablotharpalo5685

3 жыл бұрын

I can tell you first-hand Fords don't like them

@bilbobaggins4710

3 жыл бұрын

Got 50hp in my '92 Civic just by dropping them in

@fishinfool247

3 жыл бұрын

Immediately threw the check engine light on my chevy

@BobSmith-mc7uq

3 жыл бұрын

E3's will lower the wight of your wallet & give much of nothing in return. Kind of like a WOMAN!!

@hawkdsl

3 жыл бұрын

More hocus-pocus nonsense (like the magic goo nonsense).. but they sponsor the show, so I can deal with the ad. Not a biggie.

Possibly do a Ford 300 inline six with a Clifford 6=8 intake and dual carbs???????

Ha engine go brrrrrrrrr

do the E3's provide more power from better technology????...or is just cuzz the ES's have 2 more electrodes and will actually increase compression just a bit?...i;d like to see someone take a stock plug like the ones used here and add 2 more electrodes and see if you gain anything from it ...i'm not sold on e3's

In this day of roller cams and lifters, is there some advantage to using flat tappet on the street?

@savagetraining3768

3 жыл бұрын

Yup if you want to waste your money chasing power loss, engine dying suddenly, weird unexplainable noises only to find out you have a flat cam lobe then yup 😁👌🏽👌🏽

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

Only if you like having to remember to put a zinc additive in your oil at each oil change so your cam does not eat itself.

I notice that you did not mention what the air fuel ratio was with either carb . I never was able to get away with out jet changes either . And I might have been taught wrong . But I was taught that a smaller venture speed ed up the air flow . Which Atomized the fuel better .

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

This build made no power!

Wish my garage had random engines laying around and enough stocked parts to rebuild it...

pats pens.. lol.

Oversized carb will affect driveability.

@bmstylee

3 жыл бұрын

Put out to pasture hopefully.

@danmyers9372

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. First thing I thought of too.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

No matter. This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

How do we enter to win the engine??

Do a edelbrock Avs2 comparison test for mpg and hp. Please. Use any or all other carbs in the test would be helpful.

In the past the show featured a 2.3 Ford four cylinder race motor build. What about building a GM four cylinder. Oh and, maybe putting a turbo on it for some crazy dyno pulls.

those E3 plugs probably had a better spark gap distance that the engine liked. i have tested re gapping my plugs all to be equal and moved the gap closer and picked up 12hp and my engine likes to run .013” tighter gap than factory. don’t need to waste money on expensive plugs when you can tune your own

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

E3's also incorporate a capacitor in the body of the plug. But that having been said, just indexing your existing spark plugs makes a difference in power and efficiency. Pro Top Fuel teams index the plugs so it must work.

Love the video's question ? Can you all do a 400 mopar build ,in putting a 302 roller in my falcon in a few days but i have a 1978 dodge 150 custom its all original with 19,000 original miles and it has a 400 in it ,the 2 barrel holly is crap ,would just love to do a nice build with good power thanks

Push rod length checkers are the shiznit!!!

I have a nice engine bay wide open if that mill needs a home. I have had a 69 cougar that was the first car i fell in love with when i was 12 i am now 52 ! I follwed the car untill it came to rest in my drive way it has not run since 1979 and of course i had to hear it run. But it ran but needs rebuilt . but my health got in the way and now i am finally trying to build this car so if your mill needs a home i am willing to adopt!

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Crap build! This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

7 horsepower more lol, those mexican plugs do wonders

Are there any Apprenticeships for this? I mean can I just walk to a car dealership and ask to learn and help? They have adult classes in a Trade School near me but I've used up all of my student grants.

It looks like to me with the design of the electrode on the E3 plugs,they would benefit greatly from indexing them. Am I wrong or no?

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like they can't be indexed... electrode always in the way...

These two are the most talented and knowledgeable Deorro the show ever had besides Stacy David or whatever his name is

Okay guys there's other things wrong too. You have a piston not coming to the deck and you have the thickness of the gasket there by defeating the purpose of a wedge engine. You're not containing the original ignition of the fuel. I understand this is all junkyard stuff you found it on the street found it on the shelf but come on guys you got to get the Piston to the deck of the case.... The .028 isn't a random number

A pro shop with its own dyno, has parts like these lying around. For those of us with the bad habit of hitting swap meets to buy whatever is too cheap to pass up, the recipe goes...1979 302 block we never used because we know its weak. Forged standard bore pistons we got from a 1991 block we stroked to 347 cid. A set of 351W heads we consider using but find the crack we forgot about after we assemble a valvetrain, so we go to the junkyard to buy a GT40P pair from an Explorer. A high riser single plane that doesn't match our cam choice. A rusty set of stock OEM Mustang headers that don't fit the GT40P until we massage them. then we end up buying the rest of the pieces. It makes 200 hp at an unstreetable RPM, but we forgot what we paid for all these parts, so we're happy its "free" after what we spent to repair all the rust on the car its going into. And glasspacks make it sound great as a new Honda reminds us a 351W could make 50 hp more...

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

But how do you deal with that funky plug angle of the GT40P's? They always require custom headers.

@albertgaspar627

3 жыл бұрын

@@TwentytenS4B8 www.corral.net/threads/gt40p-heads-and-intake-swap-questions.1435442/

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Even worse: This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

@albertgaspar627

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuzzLOLOL in a lightweight chassis like a Ranger pickup however...

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertgaspar627 - But this video build had horrible results and ugly power curve on graph!

Flotek heads are definitely "entry level". They flow about the same as GT40's but at least weigh less.

@kevinjohnson9372

3 жыл бұрын

Was that what these were

@cgarris8674

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinjohnson9372 Yes, it lists them in the parts description.

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

And a GT40 head or equivalent is still leaps and bounds better than the stock E7-TE truck heads that the H.O. 5.0's came with. I swear Ford wanted to nerf the shit out of that engine. So they suffocated it with an anemic intake, heads that flow like drinking straws, a camshaft from grandma's Lincoln, and exhaust manifolds that look like a 5th grader's welding shop project.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Still... This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

We gonna get a part 2????

Nooice

On your carburetor doesn’t bigger cfm carbs usually come with fatter jets which usually causes rich conditions. Or i guess it be ok to put two 750 double squirters on a stock 289 and it be alright???? Just asking not trying to be a smartass

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Idiotic build made weak power anyway! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

have you ever built a rotary engine?

Let's pull apart a pretty good engine and build a pretty good engine.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

This engine was sick... low HP...

My Ford small block is making 360hp with ported flotek's.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Yes... This build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

Lobe separation on the 2nd cam is where you lost some power

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Neither cam made any power... something wrong with build...

Niceerrrsss

Auto lite makes a plug that is a fully capped end with a + cut in it we use those on methanol engines to make sure we burn it all 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

I've got a 5.0 ranger that could use some heads and a little bit of a cam.. probably end up doing a promaxx head kit and an xe264...

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

The Ford Windsor is like the 350 Chevy in the fact that they LOVE a heads, cam, and intake swap and react very positively to them. The 302 in particular likes timing. One of the free tricks for the old 5.0 Mustangs was to bump the timing to 14 degrees.

@PureCountryof91

3 жыл бұрын

@@TwentytenS4B8 I run efi, fuel grades, and blends are easier to deal with that way. The pcm would need tuning to accomplish the changes in timing. Unfortunately, the engine I was using died. I'll be tearing it down and rebuilding it. I found a good deal on gt40-z heads too. So, we will see.

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

@@PureCountryof91 87 and up EEC-IV ECM's will learn the new timing settings without the need for tuning. You just turn the distributor and lock it down and the ECM does the rest. Have to remember to remove the spout connector from the pigtail near the distributor before setting the timing or the ECM will mess with the advance while you are trying to set it.

@PureCountryof91

3 жыл бұрын

@@TwentytenS4B8 running an explorer 5.0 ECM. DIS.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Don't follow this build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!

Yeah the money would be great!!!!!!!.

E 3 spark plus is the only one's i use in my cars

Ford Vulcan? No, Ford Vulture.

the music is good I want songs names

No ptv checks for the second cam those pistons are similar to the stock pistons of a 302 and that cam was over 230 duration and the valves are over sized not 2.02 but still 1.94

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

I had an F-303 cam with TFS Twisted Wedge heads 2.02 intake valves 1.94 exhaust on a Fox Mustang with a 1.6 ratio roller rocker and stock pistons and that cam had .288 duration at .512 lift and there was miles of PTV clearance. I think they were fine with either cam.

@BuzzLOLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Crap build made weak power! With 180cc heads expect first cam to make 400 HP and 2nd cam to make 500 HP !!!