Well Scarface was supposed to be over the top. Full of excess and indulgence which was what the 80's were all about. It is a classic for sure.

@_zigger_

3 ай бұрын

Scarface is so over the top, that it looks like an after the fact, ultra-romanticized parody of the 80s, with all the right cliches. Like the 50s were portrayed in 1978's Grease. But what makes it weird is that Scarface was released in 1983...

@sargentoinkwinson4888

3 ай бұрын

Scarface is a remake of the Howard Hawks 1932 film. It's very true to that film, but in a modern way. It's best to watch the original to fully get what DePalmas version. Which is De Palma making Scarface in the style of De Palma (which by then, over a decade in the business). And it's got a banging soundtrack.@@_zigger_

@joshhamillmusic

3 ай бұрын

​@_zigger_ doesn't the fact that it was so early into decade help lend to the authenticity though?

@Steve-wo7gt

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. They can both be true.

@vdotme

3 ай бұрын

He thought Goodfellas was "pretty good" the first time he watched it. This man deserves no explanations. I don't think Scarface was "over the top" It was about a different type of gangster in a different type of world. Not like the Italians with their centuries of mafia traditions adapting to the modern world. It was a great portrayal of the underworld of Reaganomics & the various desperados from a brutal Latin America. The film was tame compared to the reality - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_drug_war

The “say goodnight to the bad guy” speech in front of all those millionaires is probably my favorite scene out of any movie. It’s when Tony Montana realized it was all bull shit after he finally made it to the top. And that these rich scumbags needed guys like Tony to take the pressure off their evil deeds. Iconic and not overrated one bit.

@AlshainFR

3 ай бұрын

For me it was the nonsensical ramblings of a coked-out loser and hypocrite trying to protect what misplaced pride he had left. Just like the bath scene where he's complaing about politicians, like he's any better

@anthonyruby2668

2 ай бұрын

"Say Goodnight to the bad guy " is 1000 times better than "say hello to my little friend"

@bigvinnie3

Ай бұрын

@@AlshainFR That's the point hes not any better but they think they're better than guys like Tony.

@HisNameWasCrazy

Ай бұрын

@@bigvinnie3 Exactly. One of my favourite things about the movie that the video fails to mention is that Tony's rise to the top is like a guided tour of systemic corruption on every level. Everyone knows Tony is a bad guy (except maybe for the irl people who mistakenly idolise him), but the crooked cops, bankers, politicians etc all fly under the radar. The speech in the fancy restaurant is like the full stop to that running theme, not necessarily directed to the people in the restaurant but all the crooked dishonest people he's encountered on his way up.

@bigvinnie3

Ай бұрын

@@HisNameWasCrazy Exactly

Scarface is loved among people old enough to remember late-70s/early-80s era Florida, when Cuban cocaine cowboys were a real thing. Transplanting the story of the original 30s Scarface to 70s Miami after the Mariel Boatlift was genius.

I worked at youth prison rehabilitation type facility twenty years ago. All the boys had Tony Montana posters and t-shirts and they were watching the movie over and over again (when they were not playing FIFA). I found it sad that they romanticized Tony Montana. He is a sad character who betrayed his friend and drove away his wife and was shot down like an animal. I understand the whole outsider rags to riches identification stuff, but damn, what a waste of youth.

@YA-hm5zy

3 ай бұрын

His wife was another one of his mistakes. Everything that glitters isnt gold.

@wyldhowl2821

3 ай бұрын

I guess that's how you recognize who the low-grade losers are going to be among the kids; for every future crime boss, I guess there's got to be 100 mooks who think they are going to be big shots and it just never happens. You are 100% right about the false allure, but I doubt they see everything you just said, how Tony Montana was not just a scumbag, but his own worst enemy.

@60wwediva

3 ай бұрын

​@@YA-hm5zyhw would've lived if he never went after Elvira. She was pointless. He should've just picked a regular girl form the club she would've been knocked up in months of meeting him

@SoftDrinksOfChoice

3 ай бұрын

Tony Montana had the drive to succeed in any profession he chose. Live by the sword, die by the sword. When has any drug lord ever died of old age? (outside of prison)

@84blizzle

3 ай бұрын

Scarface and mob merchandise were popular in general in those days. I knew a bunch of kids who had scarface shirts and posters that weren't criminals. The gangster genre is no different than people idolizing westerns. Doesn't mean they're cowboys.

Never underestimate the other guys greed, is words to live by

@Yamaha38XCRacer

3 ай бұрын

And don’t get high on yur own supply

@neerajchaudhary1821

3 ай бұрын

The way he laughs when he says it

Not dark!?! Not moody!?!? Did we watch the same movie? Look at Pacino in any scene where he is alone. He is malaise personified. He only gets animated when he is enraged or coked up. And his eyes! Tony Montana has seen some stuff!!

@paulkenny105

3 ай бұрын

@ArchibaldMeatpants lol quite the opposite

@psn64sat63

3 ай бұрын

Oh it's dark and moody, for sure. Dark and moody like a fuckin 12-year-old would imagine "Dark and moody." I absolutely loved this movie when I first watched it as a teenager in the 90s, but it IS kinda shit. Period.

Personally, I think Scarface finished too soon. It should have been a much longer film, showing more of Tony's rise to power, not just a quick montage of clips.

@Xxrocknrollgod

3 ай бұрын

Its 2 hours and 50 minutes. How can it be much longer.

@weazels

3 ай бұрын

@@Xxrocknrollgodmore scenes

@RevisedGames

3 ай бұрын

Yea that was literally the only thing I did not like about the movie. I wish we saw a whole lot more with his rise to power. I wish they didn't rush through the montage you mentioned. It could of given a lot more context and development to his character. But overall I still think it's a great film. :)

@user-el5hm8ij1b

3 ай бұрын

It was waaaaay too long

@60wwediva

3 ай бұрын

​@@weazelsthat's godfather territory. You can't have the type of emotional tonality and theme of this film be that long. It's fast paced reflecting the era and theme of the movie. The godfather drags on forever cause it reflects the old world mafia style plus you can't speed run that movie and it thrives on a slow Cookrr type film length. We needed more scenes with Gina and Manny but that's it.

I appreciate how boring Tony is as a character. Once he has climbed his way up on that ladder and killed and hurt so many. You see him realise how empty his life is.

@Galvatronover

3 ай бұрын

boring? don't you mean simple?

@soldierfordavis8615

3 ай бұрын

@@Galvatronover boring vapid and simple yes. Maybe i should have said as a person? he is an interesting character but as an actual "man" he is vapid.

@wyldhowl2821

3 ай бұрын

His wife (shallow as she is too) even calls him out on it.

@BigDapPacino

3 ай бұрын

The same could be said for Micheal Corleone!

For me Scarface is more of a collection of iconic scenes and memorable characters than a cohesive gangster story, but it's none the worse for it.

@teksnotdead902

3 ай бұрын

That’s a good way to put it. I think the movie jerking forward a few times makes the character progression feel a little disjointed.

@ninjawatcher6955

3 ай бұрын

@@teksnotdead902yes!!!!!! On point!

@rodrigosantoscienceros

3 ай бұрын

Goodfellas was the same way,

@kennywilkinson913

3 ай бұрын

​@rodrigosantoscienceros Literally nothing like it, has a voice over for 1, starts off in his childhood for 2, pretty much stays within his neighbourhood for 3, lifelong friends for 4, back stories and motives for 5, could go on 😂

@andremoore7671

3 ай бұрын

The only possible disappointment in Scarface for me was that we didn’t really get to see Tony’s rise, it happened so fast, he went from working the grill, to shootouts in a bad drug deal, to kingpin. It was a lot more story inside of the classic montage. I still can’t believe it’s almost 3hrs, it flies by every time.

Scarface is as much pop culture as Sopranos, Goodfellas, etc. Toni Montano is iconic - the world is yours

@diggadirt393

3 ай бұрын

So iconic you can't even get his name right 🤨

@panic_2001

3 ай бұрын

@@diggadirt393 English is not my native language - I want my fuXXing human rights!

@CoreyT127

3 ай бұрын

@@diggadirt393I don’t think I’ve ever even heard that last name?😂😂

It's definitely a classic but in a different category than Godfather, Goodfellas, Casino, Bronx Tale, etc.

@AbdulGabagool83

3 ай бұрын

Bronx Tale is nowhere near as good as Scarface bro

@danielnotdamast816

3 ай бұрын

Bronx tale should not be in this convo tbh

@Ashw1115

3 ай бұрын

I love Bronx tale but really it was just about the message. Great quotes but average scenes and boring storyline.

@CoreyT127

3 ай бұрын

@@danielnotdamast816I agree. Thats more overrated then this.

@finbarobruadair2761

3 ай бұрын

Put him in the bathroom ​@@Ashw1115

Pacino says that Scarface is his favorite film that he’s appeared in.

@MrKyleb1997

3 ай бұрын

I didn’t know that Thanks

@user-bk5qi1kx8p

3 ай бұрын

No it's not! He actually said in an interview he was embarrassed cause of outrageous accent. "Serpico" his favorite

If by hold up, that means its still an enjoyable watch. Then it absolutely HOLDS UP

@sole__doubt

2 ай бұрын

To each their own I guess. The first half is great the second half is average at best.

I think it holds up great

@stephaneric3021

3 ай бұрын

That last shoot-out scene is still Breath Taking

@andremoore7671

3 ай бұрын

Never met anyone who didn’t like it for whatever reason

@anthonymcken6050

Ай бұрын

I watch it every three months and always find something new.

@HisNameWasCrazy

Ай бұрын

I like it more every time I see it. When I was younger I thought it was pretty good, now it's easily in my all time top 5.

This is without question the best mob movie channel on the internet. Also, I love that you use your real voice and not that crappy AI voice everyone is using. You're a fantastic orator. Please never stop.

@CineRanter

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I love Scarface. It's no Godfather, but the film is a classic.

@HeinousMarlborough

3 ай бұрын

REBENGA!

@sole__doubt

2 ай бұрын

The first half is great the second half is not. I always turn it off after the money counting montage.

@prlysis

2 ай бұрын

@@sole__doubt Really? I love the restaurant scene ("you need people like me") and the iconic final shootout.

@sole__doubt

2 ай бұрын

@@prlysis The restaurant scene is the best in the second half. I cant stand the final shootout, I never watch it. Its like a cartoon its so ridiculous.

@Springfeeeel

2 ай бұрын

The Godfather bores me to tears compared to Scarface lol

Honestly, it's a typical 80's movie. Over the top story about a man with a machine gun. The 80's was just the time for that. Scarface was special because it wasn't just another cold war fantasy but a more real theme ie the coke crisis.

@user-hv7ep3kz2t

3 ай бұрын

Wut

I can tell he didn’t play GTA Vice City

Scarface had a resurgence of popularity in the early 2000s. I always put it off because of that and rewatched it not long ago and see its true brilliance. The retelling of the classic gangster story with a modern twist (cocaine) was genious

The way I like to view Scarface is like a Rockstar biopic. It has the same trajectory, glamor, and sleaziness. It shows a gangster overindulgence and crash, rising like a bat out of hell to only melt away through his own doing. Scarface is like Goodfellas but without the all star cast, driven mostly by Al Pacino’s over the top but scrappy performance. Tony is what exactly would happen if Joe Pesci’s gangster characters were leading a story. Brass, unapologetic, and totally mad.

It's not supposed to be taken super seriously.

No Scarface, then no Breaking Bad/BCS; especially the Cartel plot line

Carlitos way is so underrated.

I don’t see people rating it as high as you think. People who like it a REALLY like it. Not to many people talk about it as the greatest. It’s just a liked film. Godfather, goodfellas, once upon a time in America are 5/5. Scarface 4/5

I remember seeing it in the theater & we thought it was a joke. Pacino with that Cuban accent. The other the top violence.

@CoreyT127

3 ай бұрын

Not really a movie for chicks to be fare. Now you know how guys feel about every romcom they ever watched with you.😊

@dukedematteo1995

3 ай бұрын

I was born in 1985, but I remember watching a documentary about it and what you just said was the general consensus of movie goers. It got a second life in the late 90s and early 2000s bc American rappers loved it and the Tony Montana character.

@samanthab1923

3 ай бұрын

@@dukedematteo1995 Exactly. That generation grabbed onto it.

Scarface is more of a tragedy than an actual crime drama. The rise and fall of Tony Montana is a sight to behold.

It was great for its time, but 98% of movies wont hold up 40 years later, that's how these things work. You think MCU movies are going to hold up in the future? People won't believe we watched that crap, it's truly special to stand the test of time and Scarface has a great legacy

@shootinputin6332

3 ай бұрын

Who is upvoting this silly comment? People are funny. Scarface was over the top even when it was released. It's the style of the film, it's intentional. I love it. Those that think great movies somehow don't become great because they get older are living in a dream world. Cinema is art. I watch movies from the 60s/70s/80s all the time. Quality films stay quality - at release, 10 years out, 40 years out, 100 years out. You mention MCU? they are not good at release. So of course they won't be good. If you think 98% don't hold up, then you don't watch enough movies. Try not watching that MCU rubbish.

@natedogg890

3 ай бұрын

@@shootinputin6332 nice rant bro, I love Scarface personally, but it isn't even De Palmas best movie

@shootinputin6332

3 ай бұрын

@@natedogg890 thanks. Saw your comment days ago and been triggered ever since. It's not about Scarface, it's the notion that new = better. When it just ain't true. Only thing that got better with time is special effects, and that's just one aspect of a movie. No matter what age someone is, they should look at movies from the past. They'll find stuff they love.

@bigbadbillybrad

3 ай бұрын

What’s MCU?

@shootinputin6332

3 ай бұрын

@@bigbadbillybradMarvel cinematic universe aka all that super hero movie crud we've been bombarded with since 2007.

It wasn’t a gangster story. It was the story of a drug lords rise- Two different things.

It's rated just right: not as highly as The Godfather, but above the lesser gangster films. Most people below the age of thirty won't watch any film over ten years old, now. But us film fans, Scarface undoubtedly holds up.

Don't forget Michael Mann, a Director you should do videos on films like HEAT, COLLATERAL, PUBLIC ENEMIES, MIAMI VICE, and the now iconic MANHUNTER amongst others.

@sonnyooo338

3 ай бұрын

Theif !! With James Caan

I haven't watched this videos yet but to answer the thumbnail hell ye it holds up this movie is awesome! They don't make them like this any more!

1:40 Tony Montana's friend Manny is played by Steven Bauer who was Don Eladio in Breaking Bad. And of course 14:03 that is Mark Margolis who played Hector Salamanca also on Breaking Bad.

@BulletTooth504

Ай бұрын

The movie itself had a cameo in Breaking Bad. Skyler coming across Walt and Junior watching Scarface late at night was very creepy.

I think a lot of people miss the point. People don't idolize Tony because of the violence and his character. It's the drive and ambition. The willingness to put it all on the line and go out and get what you want. At any cost. Success and nothing less. In that sense it's comparable to films such as Rocky. No.... really.

The story is a man with ambition who goes after what he wants, goes too far, and crashes hard is the story of so many men. That’s why it is special.

More excellent content,love em thank you

The reason I liked it so much was because it was modern. The other gangsters movies went back to the forties for their beginnings. I remember all these scenes from the nightly. It was current.

For me it’s an all time favorite, I don’t watch it often enough but I have a tattoo on my back written in Thai saying “The World is Yours” done in my early 20’s (I’m 40 now) 😂

@raphaellamottamusic8245

3 ай бұрын

Me too lol

@anthonymcken6050

Ай бұрын

In my 20s Montana was the man. In my 30s Frank Lopez was right and thr person to follow. Now in my 40s I realised that Alejandro Sosa is the real MVP of the entire film and the one person who really has power.

The film was great but the audiences' takeaway was horrible. Tony Montana was a hater & a terrible gangster. His goal was always to just steal from his own guys & steal the lives of the guys that put him on. The real top gangster in this movie was Sosa. Tony Montana was a terrible role model for wannabe gangsters or even a brutal hitman. I disagree with your takeaway about the ending. Most gangsters would love to go out like that if they get taken out.

@rodrigosantoscienceros

3 ай бұрын

I say thats pretty realistic for a gangster, their petty and impolsive scum bags who usually stab their best friends in the back. There's a reason these guys die young or end up in prison for rest of their lives.

@ejkboxing

3 ай бұрын

@@rodrigosantoscienceros That's not realistic for a guy to make as far as Tony Montana made it. He would've been taken out a lot sooner if that's how he was moving.

@rodrigosantoscienceros

3 ай бұрын

@@ejkboxing Various cartel bosses would disagree with you. However seeing as this takes place in America let's stick to this country. Notable American gangsters: Nicky Scarfo, Albert Anastasia,Vito Genovese, and John Gotti were pretty violent street guys who rose to the top and most definitely betrayed a few of their friends because of course they did gangsters aren't exactly good people. And like Tony they didn't actually last to long as boss because they were a bunch of violent fuck ups. However Scarface is a remake of a 1930s movie of the same name which was loosely based on the real life "Scarface" AL Copone. That guy caught syphilis and became a retarded man. If a retarded guy could become a rich mob boss in real life I'm fairly certain regular ass coke dealer can make it big for few years before getting killed.

@coolpeople4287

3 ай бұрын

@rodrigosantoscienceros WOW! You put a lot of thought into your reply. I thought this Scarface movie was only a "ok" ass movie. Once he killed his boy that he came over here with, I checked out.

@ejkboxing

3 ай бұрын

I recognized it while watching it. I didn't have to think about it. @@coolpeople4287

I wouldn't say its overrated. Its certainly not as good as Godfather or Goodfellas (its the lesser of the trio) but still pretty good and enjoyable to this day. And lets be real here, one of the main draws of gangster films is the gang violence itself. Scarface takes place in Miami during the cocaine cowboy era, we expect to see some coke dealers killing each other off on screen.

A classic for sure. Tony was not in love with his sister. His sister was the only thing pure in his life and he wanted to protect her. Scarface is a criminal taking advantage of his opportunity in U.S. Tony lost everything because of his street mentality honor and not murdering children with their mother. It was an underog story but in the end he lost it all including his life. "Never get high on your supply".

Scarface was a product of the 80s and it shows today. It held up back then though. Today I see it as a film perfect for youtube. You can watch the great scenes without all the filler that has aged. Still a classic though IMO.

Scarface seems overrated because it was so concise it was SIMPLE….but most of the time that is the perfect way to get a message to the audience.

Tony was in too deep to be feeling sympathy for killing a senator and his family.

@agentsnorlson7913

3 ай бұрын

I can believe children would still be off limits though. I don't think he was too far gone for that to be plausible.

@GRUSTLER

3 ай бұрын

@@agentsnorlson7913 yes women and children should always be off limits but he was at the top of the food chain and if he wasn’t ready to go all the way then he should have chose another profession.

@HisNameWasCrazy

Ай бұрын

@@GRUSTLER You can tell from the restaurant scene that he's already become so disillusioned he doesn't care about being at the top anymore. He doesn't seem to care about the business with the journalist either, describing it to Manny as "a bunch of bullshit" even though his future depends on it. They also set up his desire to have kids which doesn't work out so that probably added to it being his breaking point.

Their is no movie like Godfather I. The End. The rise of Michael is far more interesting than rise of Tony Montana.

@BulletTooth504

Ай бұрын

True, but the fall of Tony Montana was far more entertaining than Michael's fall in Godfather 3.

The first time I saw Scarface I was appalled by how overrated it seemed. But the part where Tony’s having that breakdown while leaving the fine dining restaurant remains one of the most profound scenes in cinematic history. While he’s berating these high class members of society like an intoxicated fool, he calls out the irony of good and evil, and particularly our relationship with it. Something to the effect of “I’M the bad guy. I’M the piece of shit. Look at me. Spit at me. But look at you. You NEED me. You NEED people like me to look down your noses at. You NEED bad guys like me so that you can class yourself into a position of superiority.” Just an amazing critique on society that I think about often.

If it wasn't for Manny... Tony would have been nothing more than a fucking dishwasher

Great video

People are funny. Scarface was over the top even when it was released. It's the style of the film, it's intentional. I love it. Those that think great movies somehow don't become great because they get older are living in a dream world. Cinema is art. I watch movies from the 60s/70s/80s all the time. Quality films stay quality - at release, 10 years out, 40 years out, 100 years out.

tonys mannerisms and attitude alone making him arguably the greatest gangster of all time (at his peak)

Great topic choice!

I would like to see more videos. It was a period piece from the opening credits in yellow to the Cuban boat thing. I remember when I was a kid I would like to see more videos on this movie. Thank you very much.

It's different, it's nowhere near Godfather -- it is better than Godfather III -- but the last 20 min or so, from the moment he kills Manny till his own death by a thousand cuts is the most spectacularly tragic ending of any gangster movie. I saw the Godfathers, Casino, Goodfellas, the Last Don, etc. NONE of them made my cry. The first time I watched Scarface as a 15 year-old I cried when he shot Manny and made his sister a widow! I felt her pain so intensely...and I'm a guy.

Scarface is definitely a top 5 gangster movie of all time! It is one of the most influential movies of all time. Every drug show/movie references it, and a lot of modern rap as well. The score is iconic, the acting is iconic. I think it’s one of the movies that define American Cinema

Scarface is a relic of the 80's&that's why I love it. If you had a decent Tony Montana impression you could rule the room! Oliver Stone named Tony after Joe Montana(the GOAT) &that's good enough for me!!! "You fuck with me you fuck with the best...!" Cheers Amigo

can you do "was Omar Suarez an informant?" i would love to hear your thoughts on that

Tokyo Vice... Best show out right now. There hasn't been anything this refreshing for quite sometime now.

@HeinousMarlborough

3 ай бұрын

About time we saw some yakuza stuff.

Scarface was a new version of an over dramatic anti Al Capone movie from 1932 Scarface Shame of the nation

Scarface is great for a lot of the themes and the quotable lines

It is not "most overrated" Gangster movie of all time, it is just so iconic and part of pop culture and it aint going no where. Personally i love Scarface, i watched it like 100 times but im going to watch it at least 200 times more :)

Scarface? Overrated? No, that's The Godfather. A chore to sit thru really. Like Peter Griffin says, "it insists upon itself".

@bigdog973

3 ай бұрын

Never got that bit theres not a point it insists upon its just a sweeping tale of a good man turned evil

Scarface was a good flick, Sosas meeting with Tony and the U.S. government rep who can guarantee Tonys money laundering legal issues would disappear, if he successfully assassinated the guy. That was chilling as fuck.

In my opinion, Scarface is not the best gangster movie ever made but it is certainly not overrated. You’re correct in this regard - Al Pacino’s performance is so good and off the charts which is one of the reasons people like me love the film.

For me I was so obsessed with 80s culture and aesthetics when I saw it that I was fully immersed in the atmosphere the movie creates. The soundtrack especially, creates this gritty dark brooding mix of dread and ambition in the background, like it’s Tony’s heartbeat and psyche buzzing and fluctuating. Combines with the palpable Miami drug infused craziness you just feel really sucked into it. This makes the last 30 minutes of the film extremely powerful, if you have been seduced by the style that is. You can feel his emptiness and apathy

Tell me this is not a coincidence. For the past week or so im being feeling OBSESSED with Scarface, i rewatched it a couple of days too. Not only that but i just learnt that last year was rhe 40th anniversary. And now CineRanter uploads this video. Its like my soul automatically knows and connects with this movie. Its amazing

@AllanElMelon1043

3 ай бұрын

Erh nevermind 😒. Learn to have a little fun man.

Hey, great video once again. I noticed that you didn't show either his wife or sister or any other woman in the video. Even when you were showing the comparison scenes from Wolf and Scarface you decided to show still images. Could you share the reason for this decision?

When it came out it received negative critical response, over time people started liking it more and more. It became the iconic movie it is today, over time

Mariel Boatlift. Look that up. Scarface was based on it. Also, look up the Cocaine Cowboys documentaries. They give Scarface and the Mariel Boatlift context. Scarface is a certified classic.

2:39 - it was also written by Oliver Stone who introduced the theme that he would also use in other films: competing father figures. In Scaface, Lopez versus Sosa. In Platoon, Barnes versus Elias. In Wall Street, Carl Fox versus Gekko.

Overrated? Maybe. But it's a very good and a very entertaining movie.

It's a remake in the Mariel boatlift style. It is a classic.

i’ll never feel the love everyone else has for the godfather movies…i won’t say they’re better, but i’d rather watch scarface or untouchables

I don’t get people who say popular old movies are overrated, you go ahead and make a better one then bozo

@HeinousMarlborough

3 ай бұрын

I don't get that line of reasoning. Let alone the financial investment.. do I also have to start my own band to judge music?

@dnice213

3 ай бұрын

@@HeinousMarlborough if you’re gonna judge a classic legendary motion picture that’s a time piece, then yes, same goes for music

@HeinousMarlborough

3 ай бұрын

@@dnice213 Unless you say it's good right?

Watched it loads in my late teens and thought it was a decent gangster movie, nothing more and a bit of a blip in Pacino's career if anything. Never got the hype. Watched it again in my 30s. Brilliant plotting. Foreshadowed a decade of OTT violence, greed, gaudiness, noisy, brash music, cocaine and shoulder pads. There was so much I hadn't noticed.

Sure he died in a pool of his own blood, yet he truly lived... the world was indeed his

4:43 - also, Michael Douglas had been approached by fans after making Wall Street, telling him that he was the reason they became stock brokers. “greed is good” had become their mantra.

I FINALLY saw Untouchables a few months back. I groaned when I saw the stroller and knew they were going to do that old Soviet movie thing.

Tony Montana was a coke head, so him being over the top was necessary and understandable. I doubt, he was interested in his sister Gina, he just wanted a better life for her. Tony is the example of what happens when you push it too far with everything you do such as drugs, drinks, women, material possession, without a balance.

I love Scarface, it was my intro into the gangster genre, but I respect your opinion, ballsy.

Comfort movie is exactly how I think of Scarface

Scarface is a great film. I think Tony ends up just becoming who he really is, and the American Dream is only hollow if your own soul is hollow… as the world will eventually bring out who you really are.. and in Tony’s case, all the money and respect in the world won’t change you if there’s nothing inside to actually change.

Montana is not supposed to be emulated that is where people go wrong. Now that I'm in my 40s I realise that the real big man in Scarface is Alejandro Sosa. Montana is a uncontrollable maniac. Scarface will always be one of my go to movies when I'm bored.

Scarface was just a fever dream for Don Eladio.

It’s the best because it was shocking, well-acted and well-directed

Looking forward to your future analysis. SCARFACE is definitely one of my guilty pleasures…a comfort film for the permanent underdog…but a true cautionary tale for making materialism your god.👍👌💯💯💯

yeah definitely make more content on around scarface absolute classic for myself and a lot of people!

Great analysis. Pacino HAS made some turkeys in his career but those were due to other factors such as mediocre scripts or editing. But Scarface WAS something special to that generation! In that 80s era of excess,; it made up and coming gangsters identify with Tony and believe that they could be a wealthy kingpin despite all odds. For civilians like myself, it was an exhilarating ride back to the mid to late 70s. The film was very entertaining yet superficial with its cheap momentary thrills. But just like that era, when the partying was over and the sh*t hit the floor… it was dramatic and quite sad. It was epic and memorable. Just like this movie!

I completely agree with your take. When discussing films I always tend to annoy people when I say this exact video title as a talking point. I always tell people it is the most overrated gangster film of all time. I think it’s like you said it’s for the boys and godfather and so forth are for the men.

The untouchables feels less cartoony and more classical in its loftiness. It’s an old fashioned movie in its fluffy sentimentalism and lack of realism. You gotta be in the right mood to properly suspend your disbelief but it’s a classic.

As much as I don't find myself loving Scarface like most people do, I think De Palma's other gangster film, Carlito's Way is criminally underrated.

De Palma’s zoom out and zoom in segment before the chainsaw scene is directorial brilliance.

The title show that you haven't learned from the movie🙏🏾

Goodfellas was a classic from the first time I ever saw it.

Not all of his movies in the 80's were bombs. Sea of love was a big hit. Scarface was successful, and later became iconic

To appreciate this movie you have to watch the original Scarface from 1932. The plot line is very close, but instead of Italian Mobsters from the 30's it's Cuban gangsters in the 70's. With that in mind it's great update of an old albeit obscure gangster film.

I think you're nuts. You reach a lot in your videos with your theories. But calling this movie overrated is nuts. The story arch and gradual change of Tony Montana is amazing. Just look at the paradox Tony's quest to live the American Dream which he thinks will bring him happiness ultimately made him more trapped than he ever was under communism in Cuba. He was isolated, all alone, paranoid and ultimately couldn't find pleasure in anything in life.

@CineRanter you should do a review of the original scarface movie!

the utter fear and darkness in those scenes paired with the music is unmatchable even 41 years later, NOT overrated, a perfect classic!! when adrenaline and cocaine hit the body especially after the death of loved ones hey, you might "takea booleh" too

I'd like to hear more about "lesser known gangster films" "hidden gems" that you like

I actually think it’s the most underrated gangster film ever made. Subjective shit.

“Carlito’s Way is DePalma’s last great film.” - Guy who’s never seen Snake Eyes