I lived on the Black Sea coast in Samsun, Turkiyi. I saw a man carrying a baglama. I asked him where he got it. He led me to the shop. A master craftsman made a baglama for me for $15. I played it in folk coffee houses in the 60’s in New England. I appreciate the spiritual quality of this instrument. Your talent as a teacher in many fields is deeply respected. ❤️❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@halukkiran

6 ай бұрын

Hey men ! I am from Samsun

@tuncunal4461

5 ай бұрын

wow imagine you are turkish and walk into a random coffee house in new england there is a guy playing baglama :D

@abhimanyusingh-ve8nn

4 ай бұрын

Hey man would you help me buy a baglama as you have mentioned

I couldn't believe seeing my best youtuber (who talks religion) playing Saz when I searched Saz music. Even my wife said is he not your friend?!!! you are very talented Mashallah!

@FilipHolm

5 ай бұрын

Surprise!

İ am turkish alevi what i know ancestor of saz is kopuz it touches my soul more than any other instrument

Woow, I'm a big fan of let's talk religion. But I've never thought you were such a talented musician 😍, how many talents you've got there 🔥🌸 Unbelievable

I adore this instrument and the music of Anatolia. Thank you for this.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

You and me both!

This man is a source of surprises and talent... MashAllah

Hi, metalhead from Türkiye. I'm playing classical and elecric guitar and love heavy metal. But nowadays I'm also learning bağlama. Diversity in music is a woonderful thing, learning totally different techniques and scales is fun. Thanks for great video.

After watching the beautiful and fascinating documentary by Petra Machtnanova I bought myself one of these last year. It’s very hard to find learning material in English. I’m thinking of learning Turkish.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

That is a lovely documentary! And she plays really well!

@arditaavdija6614

Жыл бұрын

Oh i love Petra, the roots revival concert is just amazing ✨✨

@Turkistonkanal

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm Brother please don't use the human image as an image of God in your "Let's talk religion channel". You can use the image of light instead. Your channels are great!

@chillwombat4454

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm can you please do a few videos teaching saz

@littlezentz

Жыл бұрын

@@arditaavdija6614 Just watched it after seeing this introduction to the SAZ. This led me to her travels in Anatolia and then the Roots Revival. Tanbur is also the name of a ceremony in Yoruba, All this morning. Thank you to this creator.

The turks in Türkiye love and play that instrument. Some famous singers of that instrument are Neşet Ertaş, Orhan Gencebay, Arif Sağ.

The tanbur cannot be considered purely in the history of the saz. The Turks in Anatolia originate from Central Asia. And they are a nomadic society that brought their music with them when they came from there. Although they were influenced by surrounding cultures, Turkmens continued their old traditions. I have a friend who reinterprets a modern folk song with an ancient instrument. This ancient instrument is called kopuz or dombra, the ancestor of the saz. Horse rhythm is widely used in Turkish folk songs from Central Asia to Turkey. If you listen carefully, you can notice this rhythm. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6tpqbKlcrzThbA.html

Even the lamenting tones are wonderful to hear. The celeste element evokes mystery as well as warmth on happier songs. I love Balama. I suppose there are many many Balama fans.

Thoroughly enjoyed this, particularly the history part. I first heard the baglama when I visited Konya, Turkey back in 2017 and I was immediately entranced by the sound, When I saw a shop selling them I decided to try a long neck one out. I play bass guitar as my main instrument, and with a little experimentation I was soon able to make satisfying sounds. I ended up buying that instrument and bringing it back to London. I probably enjoy playing it more than anything else.

@asvegas777

Жыл бұрын

That’s so cool I’d love to hear what you play as primarily a bassist!

@samankucher5117

Жыл бұрын

🤔👍🏼

Hahahaha. I was thinking "This guy's amazing", but not so much for your saz playing skills but for your thoroughness and appreciation for real history. Oh, how I relish antiquity in all it's forms.

This is fantastic! Saz is one of my favourite instruments. I have always wanted to learn (among other middle eastern instruments) but Saz teachers seem to be few and far between.

@celalboi2836

7 ай бұрын

if you live in western countries you can go to alevi association, there's always a teahcer of saz

@DivineSource444

7 ай бұрын

@@celalboi2836 🙏 Thank you ❤️

Beautiful sound . Thank you.

Thank you for your video Saaz or Saz also means rhythmic. Naasaaz (the antonym) means unrhythmic, inharmonious or discordant. This meaning is in Sadi's Gulistan.

@amj.composer

6 ай бұрын

Very interesting! I don't know the original meaning of nasaaz. In urdu (which got the word from Persian which it got from Arabic), naasaaz is like "out of sorts" or like "disagreeing" (for example we say your health is nasaaz you're sick).

I was introduced to such musical traditions by The rhythm divine on Radio National Australia. I am forever grateful having my life opened up to spiritual music fr m around the world. My favourite is Sufi fusion and Kieran music from India.

Thank you very much for this beautiful video!

Very interesting content, thanks for uploading.

I didn't hear it mentioned here, but a few modern players don't strike the strings with a wooden stick (I forget what its called) but fingerpick the strings instead. Multi-instrumentalist David Lindley, who passed away 3/3/23, played Saz and Oud fingerstyle, sometimes played Saz or Tambur with a violin bow, and had an electric Saz/Bouzouki he built from a Vox teardrop-shaped Bass Guitar body and a Bouzouki neck, as well as a custom-made electric Oud built by a guy named Najarian in California. Lindley's earliest musical interests were bluegrass banjo and violin, but he also studied Saz, Oud, Flamenco and Classical guitar, and he often played old English and American folk songs on Saz or Oud.

As an Alevi Kurd, it was so refreshing to hear how thorough and inclusive your research and considerations of the saz's history were presented! I play the violin, my dad plays the saz and we sing together in Turkish and Kurdish. It's always a joy to see our music and messages spread across cultural boundaries with respect and admiration. Thank you for this wonderful video.

@habibi87131

2 ай бұрын

Where are you from brother Alavi is our Shia people it's the same like 12 imams

Nice presentation! That's one of my favorite instruments.

Thank you Philip for this wonderful and interesting show on the baglama

Lovely playing...and loved the explanations.

An excellent explanation and video, well done my friend.

Thanks for making this video. I had no idea about hte historyh of this instrument.

Always nice when people tell me things about my culture i never knew, thanks for the video! Its really nice to listen to you play it

Hey man... watching ur vdos from all ur channels... just love it wt u r doing ❤️ Just amazing work ❤️

Filip, THANK YOU so much for this beautiful video.... and all the detailed explanation, about the history, and developments over the centuries... of this amazing instrument. WOW ! 🙂

thank you so much, loved this video

you play the saz extremely well , kudos mate

Nice sounds great!

Thank you !!! impressive. 💫

I feel like I owe you money now, amazing job explaining the history of this instrument thank you🙏🏽

Thank you ! I'm surprised how much I enjoy these series really fascinating. Would love it if you get a chance to do a piece on the Udulele one day!

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Interesting idea! Thanks!

i also checked out long necked lutes along the silk road when i was looking more into turkish music and the saz. phenomenal book. beautiful image of how the idea of a musical instrument develops among various people across space and time and so cool to see its many ancestors and relatives. a lovely resource.

@FilipHolm

6 ай бұрын

Yes, very good book to have!

Beautiful music, thanks! 😀

Amazing playing 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

❤️🦋 Of course we knew how talented he is, not just in religion and philosophy, but music. Thank you 💖

Man i come from your other channel (lets talk religion), all your content are amazing. Keep up the good work ❤️

Incredible instrument, and very nice video overview. I am a musician and multi-instrumentalist playing a lot of "world instruments", and the Saz is definitely on my "to do list" for learning. 😊

Baglama/Saz is the soul and spirit of eastern music, more so of Anatolia. It can sound morbidly sad or blissfully happy depending on the "mood" and context its played in. Thank you Filip for reminding me of your music channel as i had watched your lets talk religion with awe and fascination, the in depth information you provide to us. May your God bless you, love and peace from Melbourne Australia.

Utterly delightful. And I love how you let us stumble upon this by complete happenstance, as I just did, after following your incomparable religion talks for years. Indeed this felicity could be straight out of Gurdjieff's Meetings With Remarkable Men, as that is what brought me to KZread for the past few days, sprinkled with sufi music. And then your saz appeared. Rather perfect really. Thank you.

Very good source of information. Sub! ;)

Türkler tarafından anadoluya kopuz getirilidi burada çeşitli değişimler gösterek bugünkü bağlama halini aldı. Tambur çok farklı bir çalgı ve orta doğu ve mısıra ait.

Wow. Never heard that kind of music before

Thanks, and please let this one run the 35:39 this time. 😄 You also offer us historic info with your playing this is great.

Filip, I just wanted to say that you are an inspiration on so many levels. I have purchased Climbing and Desert Wanderings. I would do more but am myself on a fixed income. I would like to say that I have watched many of your episodes of Let’s talk Religion. The wonderful reading you did of the City of Brass inspired me to write a ghazal. Thanks for sharing so much of yourself with us. I look forward to much more incite and creative works from you! Best Wishes!

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

It is humbling to read your very kind words! Thank you! Would love to hear that ghazal at some point!

@mdlm1812

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm Not sure if you use Skype or not but it is pretty much the only way I communicate anymore. I can’t stand what social media has become. If you do, let me know when you would be up for hearing the reading. Thank you for the comment. I am located in Connecticut USA. Regards!

dest xosh :)

I know your point here is not bad, but I would like to add something. The Sassanid Tambur is not the only ancestor of the modern saz. The origin of the modern saz goes back to both the Sassanid Tambur and the Central Asian "kopuz". It seems that the saz differed significantly from the tambur after the Turks came to Anatolia. The issue here is entirely the cultural mixing that started with Turkish migrations.

Great!!!! 🇹🇷

The performance from Dilovan was amazing.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

I know! He is great!

Wow! Du har både en underbar religionskanal och en faktiskt intressant musikkanal!

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Tack! :)

This is an excellent video!!! I really dig that saz is very contemporary and music on it continues to evolve. I'm obsessed with it slightly.

Beautiful 😍

آفرین به شما که هم از لحاظ تاریخی و هم از لحاظ جغرافیایی مسلط هستید و استاد هستید در نواختن❤ براووو

beautiful

I also recommend Cümbüş as well, it is a kind of banjo style of oud which created in close history.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

That is a really cool instrument too!

@cemyildiz7842

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm I know you from "Let's talk religion" channel. Here is quite interesting as well.

The thanpura or thambira in India is only used for pitch perfection,as a background for vocalists.

I have a bağlama saz...a fascinating otherworldly instrument - do a Greek bouzouki someday! I have a bouzouki as well...love it!

thank you for sharing your art. Please tell me, how do you study accurate texts from Sufism/Persian literature and the like in English? Most translations are, to say the least, very deviated from the original meaning. My husband is a farsi speaker and we are planning to translate some books that have yet to be translated in English, or that were poorly done so. Maybe you have a book you would like to read you haven't had the chance to yet, or some recommendations?:)

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

There are plenty of good traslations by competent scholars. You just need to know where to look. Are threre any poets you are thinking about?

So cool.

Thanx!! ❤❤

Your great 👍

I've got one of these bad boys, love it.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

It's awesome!

@TheModernHermeticist

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm The only thing that drives me nuts about it is that it doesn't have a soundhole and so my long right hand guitar fingernails are always hitting the wood and making a sound when I do fingerpicking... Not really the instrument's fault, just a problem I face and need to work hard to correct.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

@@TheModernHermeticist Yeah the strings are pretty close to the wood so that happens easily!

I love this!!!!

@createwithme5458

Жыл бұрын

Love your other channel & found out you are a musician from one of the q&a videos I was totally surprised! Immediately looked for your music, just awesome, good job 👏

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

great to know you r a musician too... you should have a Rabab... my favourite string instrument.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Love the Rabab!

Filip, what sort of magic you're...

Thank you so much for this. I have been enamored by the sound of the saz since I first heard it, and I would love to get one and learn how to play. If possible, could you give me some hints on how to go about that? Also, for a beginner, long neck or short neck?

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

It's always good if you have a local luthier or seller, so that you can try them out yourself. Otherwise, there are a few reputable sellers online, like Sala Muzik or some Turkish ones. People often say that it's better to start with a short neck Saz, because it is easier to play due to the shoter scale. But I would say your preference really matters more. Do you want the fuller, bassier sound? Then go with a long-necked one.

this is Nice i love saz you good men hellal olsun

I've always wondered about string gauges for this, the one I own is a long neck lol

The saz discussed in the historical Dede Korkut epic is the Azerbaijani saz. The saz with the best quality sound is the Azerbaijani saz

@Tengrinin_Kirbaci

10 ай бұрын

Uzaktan yakindan ilgisi yok

@Tengristshaman

4 ай бұрын

​@@Tengrinin_Kirbaci Biz Sazın (Bağlamanın) Şah Ismayılın sarayında Azərbaycanlı Qızılbaş Türkmen Ozanlar olan Aşıq Miskin Abdal ,Aşıq Dirili Qurbani ve başqaları terefinden Qopuzdan tekminleşdirildiyine inanırıq.

What other tunings are common for the short version? Thank you for a wonderful channel

Bravvoo..!! Thanks..!!

Man, where did you study music? I haven't heard much saz, but I do recognise quality. And okay, you are modest, there are experts too. I guess the Turkish and Kurdish players will appreciate your trials playing saz, too. Do they? Did you get thank you's? Well, THANK YOU!

I think saying that "baglama derived from tanbur" is very controversial. There's modern tanbur and it's different. We gotta talk about Central Asian instrument "Kopuz - Komuz" . There's an instrument called "dutar" which is common in and around Iran. And the dutar is very similar to baglama and to the kopuz. I personally think that baglama derived from an instrument like kopuz. And it was a simpler version of the dutar. It turned into something like dutar and then turned into the modern baglama.

I never knew you played this! In fact for the past two weeks I've been listening to this type of music, and wondering what this instrument is called! And now, one of my top channels is covering it! Nice

@voornaam3191

11 ай бұрын

Yes, this family of instruments is great, is it? What a pitty the Ottomans didn't own Zoom recording devices yet.... Would be great having original records. Oops, impossable.

Would love a tutorial on how to play this by you!

@samankucher5117

Жыл бұрын

that would be nice.

Beatiful insight. I'm wondering, is Saz totally different from Buzuk or is it just another name from a different language

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

The Buzuq is a very closely related instrument, but somewhat different!

Thank you for this video. I’m looking to buy a quality Saz online. Can you recommend reputable fabricators/music instrument shop?

Youre video was interesting As a oud and a saz player I just need to point out that you forgot a few things Even though this instrument was originated in iran and turkey Its in some arab countries as well its called bozoq بزق or arabic bozoq which i think came from the greek word bozoki it has kind of a similar sound to the saz and similar techniques but it has a different tuning which is C G C i think mostly in syria and lebanon.. in iraq they play the same saz mostly northern iraq mosel kerkuk and kurdistan region

So the Saz has no opening in front and three (3) strings, also looks like frets are on top as well. Sounds quite nice too, so this and the other one you show with shorter neck are or were used in Sufi music. And in Iran, Turkey, and other mid-east regions. Sufism religion used Saz, very nice. Have a great interest in Sufi Muslim groups, also ones up in the hills of Chechnya region. Thanks for all your info and playing.

@spacemanonearth

Жыл бұрын

Wait are those six strings three pairs of strings?

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

It has three courses of strings. Usually two double-courses and a triple-course.

@spacemanonearth

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm Thank You for info & for sharing, on the three pages I sub too. Much interest TY.

Hi great video ! Do you know by any chance where / how i can find a 7 string cura ? Saw such a baglama in a video of özgür baba but actually nowhere in the internet to buy..

Glad you finally mentioned "Kurdish People " . Not many people acknowledge us .

@shahapalani5820

Жыл бұрын

I agree, he even said “Kurdistan” 🙏🏽

@asvegas777

Жыл бұрын

I acknowledge you and your pain friends

@zeragingcookie

9 ай бұрын

@@shahapalani5820kurdistan does not exist

@ayhan4472

7 ай бұрын

Gavura acıtasyon yapmayın.

@neyonez5223

6 ай бұрын

kurdistan does not exist😅😢😂😂😂😂

@Filip Holm, The Iranian name for the Saz is Divan. indeed Baglama is what they call it in Turkey and its very beloved there. Anyway amazing Video and thanks! ive just discovered your channel and as an Iranian I would like to help and collaborate with you.

Hey, thank you fot the nice introduction. I wanted to ask you what is the name od the Saz you are playing here and which internet store you recommend for buying one. Thank you!

Wunderful. I hve a question: Do you use the thumb to play the sites?

Beautiful very soothing sound. Did you use an amp for the recording or is it acoustic? Do you know who sellers these in the US?

my saz is short neck and also tune like Cgc its a normal or tuning like persian tar or arabic bouzuk

Tebrikler

Hello Filip, nice vid. I'm just wondering which one do u feel is the sadder and deeper long or short neck?

@FilipHolm

11 ай бұрын

I don't know! I guess I would assoicate the deeper, darker tone with "sadness", so maybe the longer necked one?

Beautiful instrument, beautifully played and very interesting history. What is that pick you are using?

@FilipHolm

5 ай бұрын

It's the standard saz pick!

@mikebro2557

5 ай бұрын

@@FilipHolmthank you, I never knew they existed until watching your video.

Middle eastern sounds! Amazing.

Hi, wich model of Balama and string in this video? Im searching for this sound, i have a composite long neck Balama and Volume string but not this sound. Also, wich tuning? Thank you very much

Would this have any connections to the bouzouki? (greek/irish)

cool

I hope to see you play the Afghan Tumbūr at some point.

Can't understand how 3 strings is difficult but , interesting history

I am coming to Turkey for 2 weeks and all I want to do is to bring one of these (Baglama) home. I play the guitar and mandolin. Will be in Istanbul, Izmir, Cappadocia. Any suggestions on where to buy? It is my understanding it best to buy away from the Grand Bazaar.

@FilipHolm

Жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely avoid the bazaars (when it comes to instruments). I know that Izmir has some excellent luthiers that make Saz/Baglama intruments. It depends on what your budget is. The best option is always to go directly to a luthier, but that is also pretty expensive. A middle of the way option would be to find a dedicated music store in Istanbul or Izmir. I saw plenty of them in Istanbul when I was there. Try some instruments out, see which one you like, or ask someone at the store if they seem knowledgeable.

@RedMcc

Жыл бұрын

@@FilipHolm I will be in Istanbul and Izmir. Not sure what to expect as far as budget. I dont want something cheap but not crazy expensive either. I figure I can probably secure one for about 300 USD

@theguy9166

Жыл бұрын

@@RedMcc ankara is good

@RedMcc

Жыл бұрын

Ended up getting a great one in Istanbul

Please do Setar (Persian instrument) next! 💚🤍❤️🦁