Saxophone Repair Topic: Old-school Fix for Loose Conn Microtuner

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Saxophone repairman Matt Stohrer of www.StohrerMusic.com is getting lazy, because this was originally a video for a customer and he basically just published it here as well with very little extra commentary.
Anyhow, this is an example of a problem and simple old-school fix for Conn microtuners when they are getting clanky/wobbly but still are airtight. I have witnessed this repair many times on necks I had seen and had assumed the intent based on what I saw, but never heard about it or been taught about it and this was my first time doing it myself to confirm. It did indeed work very well and the client is happy.
For some more context to the video, the problem upon inspection of the neck ended up being different than I expected based on our conversations (and different from the impression he was under after taking it to a few places to get looked at), I spent a bunch of time thinking about it and messing around before getting back to him, and this video was sent to the owner to share my thoughts so we could figure out a different way forward.
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  • @SkylersRants
    @SkylersRants Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of the microtuner, but I think the reality is they're not worth the trouble over time. But I love your diagnosis and recommendation. Keep the videos coming, you're really great.

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! And yeah, its hard to argue for something that mechanically complex vs. just a tube over a timespan of like 100 years! But in my opinion, they *can* be made right just like any other mechanical aspect of the saxophone. If you are or have access to someone who is a decent repairer, I wouldn't let it scare you off of the truly great saxophones that have them like the New Wonder Series II and the 6M. In fact, because they are so often under-repaired (including the double socket neck leaks on most 6Ms) the horns have a less stellar reputation than they deserve, and therefore still represent a great value pricewise in vintage horns when repaired well, IMHO.

  • @Globoglobitos
    @Globoglobitos Жыл бұрын

    Quick and informative. Thanks for the video Matt!

  • @wckoek
    @wckoek2 ай бұрын

    Hello, I understand that the rolled tonehole and straight tonehole 10m are essentially the same aside from the tone hole. Then came those with "naked lady" engraving but with microtuner (before 1960) - are these still as good as the earlier ones?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    2 ай бұрын

    It is widely agreed that the later ones are not as good as the earlier ones, although they can sometimes represent a good bargain if they are in good shape and overhauled well.

  • @wckoek

    @wckoek

    2 ай бұрын

    @@StohrerMusic I see, the ones without microtuners are better I'll look for them. Rolled tone holes one are too expensive and difficult to find in good condition. Are these later (but pre 1960) ones as picky on mouthpiece? What sort of mouthpiece can be a good match for the 10m?

  • @qwertyuiop32935
    @qwertyuiop32935 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Conn 6M transitional alto from around 1933, and I’ve noticed that my high notes (G and up) get progressively harder to play. They require much more air and sound thin. Is this an air tightness problem?

  • @robin959
    @robin959 Жыл бұрын

    Difficult question, but how well can one of these seal ideally, and how much of a leak is tolerable in your opinion? I have one that has almost no play in the mechanism at all, but reads at 0.4 on a magnahelic machine (arbitrary I know, as settings vary). Cause for concern you think?

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    In my opinion, they shouldn't leak at all. A temporary (how temporary varies - could last for years) fix is to use some rather thick grease in the sliding portion.

  • @robin959

    @robin959

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StohrerMusic awesome, thank you so much. I thought I was home free seeing as it was mechanically sound, but oh well. I’ll pull it back apart and see if I can improve it at all - probably will try some grease first as it is easy to try

  • @selmer1971
    @selmer1971 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Matt. Who was the guy we can get that microtuner removal tool. I had his name and info and can’t find it now.

  • @StohrerMusic

    @StohrerMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Send me an email and I can give you his contact info.

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