"You owe Mike a 10 second car" A gentleman of culture

@Maxwell_Millz

3 ай бұрын

Rite of passage for any car guy. 😂

@shanewindridge3815

3 ай бұрын

I have nightmares of rusy

@friggincanvee

3 ай бұрын

This guy has so much more charisma than the guy in the first video.

As an Australian, I’m glad I don’t have to deal with Salted roads… it blows my mind how bad cars get over in the UK…

@Objektiv_J

3 ай бұрын

I think salting will become a thing of the past anyway for environmental reasons (it's already been phased out in parts of Europe/Scandinavia).

@1dameister1

3 ай бұрын

Actually this is what happens when the owners don't take precautions and protect the car, when it's new and out of factory from future corrosion, but of course living in a warm climate where it's not as salty or no salt at all is the best, but water can do it's fair share of damage.

@grievuspwn4g3

3 ай бұрын

There's a land Rover specialist in Quebec that blows my mind.

@ivandoe33

3 ай бұрын

Just maintain and wash your car properly and even old Hyundai will last long.

@readmore7180

3 ай бұрын

Salted roads aren't the only thing, a relatively small island surround by sea has much to do with it. Go look at cars on smaller islands in Mediterranean . They rust badly too.

Finally an advert on KZread video worth further looking into, well done drivetribe and lanoguard. Makes a change from skipping over the usual car check advert that they all do.

I will be disappointed if Clarkson himself doesn't get a chance to drive it. You had fixed May's Tesla, Hammond's Subaru and other many things... we gotta have Jezza drives the upgraded Brera once it's done.

@HendrickT-bi4iw

3 ай бұрын

Doubt he will. He seems to have zero interest in Drivetribe

@RoryStarr

3 ай бұрын

Clarkson has zero interest in pretty much anything that isn't Clarkson. He's a great presenter, but it's very clear what he's about.

@HendrickT-bi4iw

3 ай бұрын

​@@RoryStarrYup

@jrbuch

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think the dude is done with cars, he's all about his farm now I suspect.

@Snivic-music

2 ай бұрын

oh, hey there Jon

If only they made the subframe out of the same material they made the bolts that held it in by

@christianolsson834

3 ай бұрын

I think the same! Or aluminium at least! take a pick of any luxury car. 5 year or older. Subframe rusty. Cliché

@douglasreid699

3 ай бұрын

its a car designed for the Italian market where its nice and hot and sunny and very little in the way of icy roads. UK is not a place for those types of cars, unless you are going to treat the underside out of your own pocket.

@soundseeker63

2 ай бұрын

@@christianolsson834 20 year old BMW E60 here, UK, zero rust - Full aluminium subframes, struts and arms FTW 😀

Maxwell needs to be on Camera a lot more. He's got great charisma, great vibes, great voice.

@Maxwell_Millz

3 ай бұрын

I totally agree, he's definitely a future star presenter. 🌟

Some brand new Hwheels.

@South4153

3 ай бұрын

With some Coo-Hwhip

@South4153

3 ай бұрын

With some Coo-Hwhip

Just checked the mot its passed no need to wait till next week to find out🤣

@red9zero

3 ай бұрын

😂

@jordangeoffrey

3 ай бұрын

Rude

@Fabulousprofound168

2 ай бұрын

Dude…. Spoiler alert 😂

@tdoteva4973

2 ай бұрын

Spoiler I was gonna wait

I am always surprised when clever people like Mike and Ben work under a rust bucket and proceed to do rust removal and rust proofing without even considering using eye protection 😞 come on guys, show some leadership and use safety glasses. You only get one set of eyes. 🙏

@RoryStarr

3 ай бұрын

I couldn't believe that either

@michaelzerk9541

3 ай бұрын

Was going to mention that. Hitting rusty metal with a hammer at eye level is asking for trouble.

@mantarayal

3 ай бұрын

I couldn't believe they just painted on the "product"" straight over thick rust. FGS. It needs blasting first. No product will stop that rust if it isn't taken down to what is left healthy first.

@Zeem4

3 ай бұрын

@@mantarayal That's exactly how Lanoguard products are meant to be used. They're based on lanolin which is chemically attracted to the steel underneath the oxide, and forms a barrier against salt, water and oxygen. From all the reviews and "before and after" videos I've watched, it appears to work very well at halting the progress of rust. I'm not affiliated with this company but I intend to use it on my project Peugeot Expert. In fact I've already been using the grease as shown in the video - it's very thick and smells of sheep, which is fun.

@joelaw728

2 ай бұрын

For anyone who doesn't agree with this statement, Google "Corneal Burr tool" its what they use in hospital to remove the "rust ring" that attaches to your eyeball after getting steel in it. And yes it's literally a miniature burr tool you'd use on a Dremel or inline grinder, but for your eye. The saltyness of your eyeball causes the contamination to rust (if it's ferrous) almost immediately. But it requires going back a few days after the incident to make sure all of the iron has fully rusted.

Those wheels look sick!! Love that you kept the original design. It’s pretty amazing the rats nest that was hiding under the shell. Just got take it one thing at a time.

Great video guys, also check the sills in front of the rear wheels for rust. Alfa and Fiat in their widsom put sound deadening foam in there which traps water and rots out, happens on 147, GT 159, Stilo Giulietta etc etc. Vacuum out as much as possible (it will be dust by now) and apply the Lanoguard generously. HTH

Very enjoyable to watch and reminds me of my Fiat SuperMirafiori ownership experience back in the 80s. Love the fact that the Alfa guys drives a Honda Civic!

Who would've thought that the only Top Gear star we loved for something other than their personality... had one of the most charming personalities all along.

@suad01

2 ай бұрын

Michael Gambon next please

Finally I understand, what „superleggera“ stands for! 😂

@darrinnoble

3 ай бұрын

Translucent. 😂

We Lanoguarded my Son’s Type R 2-3 years ago. At the recent MOT the garage said it was epic underneath 🤭🤭 - We swear by the stuff.

@danielhillier7417

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear this I have some waiting to go under my classic Saab, MX5 and LS400.

@rkan2

2 ай бұрын

I bet you bash it around in the salt in the winter too...

@Maxwell_Millz

2 ай бұрын

I agree, just a shame it smells like cow 💩 when being applied. They need to get some better fragrance in there

As the owner of a 159 tbi, I don't find the chassis to be disappointing to drive. On the contrary, it handles really well. Probably because I have one of the lightest configs, the 3.2 V6 was a really heavy lump. Also, how does the UK manage to make everything rot/rust? I know its italian, but mine has 0 corrosion despite being dailied.

@braddbradd5671

3 ай бұрын

It must be cheap metal

@jjvdk90

3 ай бұрын

That’s because your TBi is a facelift model. Their body is lighter than the ones

@danieldryden718

2 ай бұрын

It's due to the salt on our roads, it eats away at the metal and causes lots of corrosion

@soundseeker63

2 ай бұрын

Salt. Thousands and thousands of tonnes of salt. Keeps the roads navigable in winter, but at a cost, as we can see here!

Great car great choice , i daily drive my brera 2.4 i put a stage 1 remap and removed dpf , i lowerd it and the car is a beast on the road great in the corners , apsolutely amazing car to drive , and the best design ever.

It's hard to believe that car is 17 years old now!

I've had lots of cars over the years, many Beemers, a TVR (yup, left it in a hedge backwards), MX5, European cars... the only cockpit that always made me smile was my Alfa 159... average drive, but what a place to drive from. Oh, and those beautiful triple lights.. beautiful... but shocking in snow, as they just trapped it and made everything go dark... remember driving back from a gig in Glasgow in a snowstorm, only the inside lane open, and had to pull over every few miles to clear the headlamps... would I have another... absolutely... (and my current is a 330d x drive.. way way quicker ) but the Alfa made me feel special... got written off because someone hit the front wing in a car park (Seriously)... damaged the bonnet, lights and wing (£190 for second-hand lights.. OEM no longer available) .

It still amazes me that my 52 year old classic Saab has never been welded. As far as im aware it was Ziebart protected from new.

Dude, it's been years since I've seen a 1st Gen Fiat Ulysse, my dad had one in the mid-90s, how nostalgic!

Having fixed a holed exhaust with some Gun Gum and a Baked bean tin can with a couple of jubilee clips you over spent on that fix.

@Maxwell_Millz

3 ай бұрын

😂 gotta love an exhaust bodge. But in their defence, it's going full stainless in a few weeks, so absolutely no point doing anything more to the old rusty stock exhaust

Wow, the salted roads have done its work, It's like Suisse cheese.Still, you caught it just in time, Mike.The Alfa will be solid again. I love your enthusiasm, mate.. Great stuff

Mike, you know that vibe you were on for the first 5 minutes of this video? That's what I'm on every single day at work because I work in an insanely poor school setting. You gotta stay positive even if the subframe is collapsing.

That frame remids me of the '67 Mustang GT I acquired in '85. Fortunately it was given to me for free by a family friend, the original owner. Ultimately I had to sell it for parts.

I think Mike is such a brilliant presenter for this content, as ever! Absolutely have to get clarkson driving this once it’s finished.

'How do we stop this happening to the new subframe?' Well, you COULD drill a drainage hole on each side to stop the water collecting, but lets just use Lanoguard - preventing problems isn't how we work... A drilled hole, and then doused in Lanoguard seems like the ultimate solution for an extra 2mins work.

I love the way you and ben hate each other and at the same time love each other 😂😂

Did Mike drop a molly before this or something?

@jamesdean8785

3 ай бұрын

I liked the sweet Mike. He seems to have been replaced with an arrogant pr%ck.

@qre268Zrtb

3 ай бұрын

what's a "molly", please.

@stevesmith9351

3 ай бұрын

yep unwatchable absolute muppet

"super leggerro" funny AF

Finally someone calls it for what it is, a hatchback! I love these but they are so hard to find one

I forgot how old these cars are now, it was a favourite of mine when it came out in 05 when i was about 13.

Max was great on camera, lad

Can I recommend gas strut clamps for that bonnet for anything other than checking the oil/screenwash.

The Brera had nice individual styling details on the outside but for me they didn't gel together all that well. The inside however was fantastic.

Still looks modern, sharp. Top design. Beautiful car🤘

Always wanted a Brera, but could not bear thinking of all the problems, much less dealing with 'em. Also the performance issue... Really looking forward to this one. Great project.

@MrPrajitura

2 ай бұрын

If you want a Brera, just get one. Don’t listen to the internet and don’t look at it like a “poor sports car” because it’s not that. If you look at it like a jaw dropping beautiful 2 seater GT it makes a lot more sense. I just completed a 2700km round trip to and from Italy from Holland in my 159 TBi and I simply fell in love with my car on this trip. Just try and find one that’s been decently looked after and you’ll have a stunning car. All cars break down and will have issues.

@Sverkell

2 ай бұрын

@@MrPrajitura, I hear you, but after having enough problems with my previous car, I'm sticking to something a little newer now. But, who knows, I might get one as a project after all - if the opportunity presents itself.

I love the Superleggerra comment made by one of the crew

With that zoom in at 3:37 I naturally expected him to say "In the bin"

Just make 2 little holes in the subframe pockets.

Those strut yokes breaking is caused by over tightening. I had it happen when I worked in an Alfa dealer back in 09 on a car that wasn’t old

I'm suddenly hearing "cheerful Charlie" from Clarkson's Farm in Ben's voice 😵‍💫

Passed 8 days ago, should get that sorted tho 🤣!- Offside Front Brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))

Never use an impact gun on alloy uprights... i found this out when i fitted coilovers to my old E91 beamer 🤦‍♂️

lanoguard is useless for a car as rusty as this. you really need a proper rust converter like dinitrol rc900 or bilt hamber hydrate80 then maybe dynax S50 on top

i like how mike says "we gonna go fuel custom" :D

Owning over 25 AR´s this is nothing ;) I´m not the smartest but i love cars. Keep on, it´s paying you back in terms of driving and feelings. Love from Sweden.

The look on Mike's face on the thumbnail ia *classic* 🤣

When the camera zoomed in on Mike's face, I was totally expecting "in the bin"

This is a similar story to that was on AutoAlex. Taylor bought a Red one that was in a terrible condition.

Loving having Ben Collin’s involvement

"superleggero", I just pissed myself, top work sir

Mikes presentation and comfort in front of the camera grows by the upload. It's great to see him relax into the job more and just have a bit more fun and be a bit more daft than his early days. Long may he upload cool videos!

Don't worry, my 10k Abarth is too, it'll get better the more you spend on it!!

That question in the title answers itself😂

It’s going to be so awesome

5:21 how quickly can you modify/protect that new subframe to ensure it last longer than the first…?

ngl edging to the subframe is insane

honestly glad you went with 18s instead of 19s

When you have done the car and gave it a little tune you should take it to misha for a lap around the Nürburgring

Fancy letting me have the 17 inch alloys 🙏🤣 been trying to get some for ages! For my Alfa

Get back on that Rover 620ti Mike, give the people what they want!

@redline589

3 ай бұрын

Please no, id rather have an eye infection than a Rover.

Mike saying "ALFA" into the camera deadpan 💀💀💀💀💀

Superleggera😂

Yes autosportivo just made a great vid with you guysb

"What makes them wrong" "They're different" lmfao.

Come on boys, set an example. Wear your PPE (Personal Protection Equipment), as in, safety goggles. Rust flakes in the eyes are no joke!

@rayduggan5077

3 ай бұрын

At least the camera lens has probably got a filter on the end of it.

@danieldryden718

2 ай бұрын

Please be quiet

@robertemmett415

2 ай бұрын

@@danieldryden718 I'm a health and safety professional and have seen some totally avoidable eye injuries, so, no, I won't be quiet. Being so accident prone, you would think the Hamster would be more careful.

@redhotsheep

2 ай бұрын

Got to agree. Hammering like that into rust is madness. I'm an ophthalmologist and have seen people have fragments enter their eye.

@chrisbaker121924

2 ай бұрын

I got some rust in my eye once… doing something similar. Wasn’t fun… luckily I managed to wash it out after a day or so of trying. Had the goggles on ever since.

9:24 The lap time was 1.36.9- I used to have the top gear top trumps!

Not designed for UK weather... looks like it's been parked under the sea for a couple of years. What shame. Well done for giving life again! My 18-year-old Brera is near perfect. It's the country, not the car.

Done plenty of those exhaust patches in my time… :).

@Maxwell_Millz

3 ай бұрын

They definitely do their job in times of desperation.

Am i mussing something, does the uk have silver impact sockets?

glad to see ben becoming a regular face. where is the rover btw? i really liked it

Should have dropped me a line. I’m breaking a 2.4 and have the forks available. Also have a pair of almost new brembo drilled front disks with ebc pads

he's like a yogi, protecting the vibe throughout the video

When this is done, they have to give it to Clarkson to do a mini road test right? that would be the best ending to this series

"superleggera"!!🤣🤣🤣

As subframes go….. that’s worse than we used to get with the classic mini 😂😂😂

4:30 made me think Alex Brooker grew proper arms.

I’m so glad that I live in a country where the climate doesn’t devour the car.

#BenCollins, From Stig to Rust Prevention on a Alfa. What a career move. LOL.

Man that workshop is dark and un loved 😂

Should have safety glasses on under the car with all that flaking rust 😉

My car failed it’s MOT for a hole in the exhaust 3 years ago. I stuffed some exhaust putty in the hole and it passed the test. It’s passed twice since. We can’t all afford custom exhaust systems.

A rule. Always carry a sample when going for spares😂

Imagine all the 70's British cars that would still be around if the anti-rust products had been around back then and had been applied right away after the cars had been purchased new. 😂

time to get Clarkson on the channel for once. We the fans deserve it !

You guys literally said you were going to use a Ryobi impact gun on everything and now you regret it after cracking the knuckles😂😅

surely the subframe corrosion should have been picked up on the MOT?

Do I mention I have an entire spare set of Prodrives for my Brera S in the Garage or not 😅

man i had one of those in the same color and everything it was a 2.2 jts tho i you buy one of these get the v6 the car was to heavy for the power it got.

I'm just picturing Mike and Ben as door to door salesmen for Lanoguard...

My dream car is a 3.2. I test drove one from a "supers and classics dealer" the wheel fell off during the test drive...

Was that the motor addicts theme tune 🤔

Looks like salty winters.

Without watching this, if it was Clarkson, it's probably a wreck...even matt Armstrong would struggle to bring that back to life

@michaeldunham3385

3 ай бұрын

And you've just shown watching the video first before commenting is the sensible thing to do.....

Car itself looks clean underneath,assemblies rusty,better than lots of VW/Bmw i see with wheel arches,sills rotted.

whens the next video with full breakdown of costs !

Wish drive tribe could use the airfield fully and use the studios and such.

@Maxwell_Millz

2 ай бұрын

One day I'm sure they will. 😊

Did they consider drilling out new drainholes for the subframe so water can not😮 accumulate in it??

There’s something mesmerizing about watching the Stig, the driving demigod that doesn’t know how a phone or oyster card are supposed to work; yet has no problem getting his hands dirty underneath an Alfa. What a chap lol

@chriswvtr

3 ай бұрын

You know he's not the Stig right? Ben Collins was the Stig.

@Lopez865

3 ай бұрын

@@chriswvtr Admittedly; But that’s why I like Ben. He’s the Stig I remember watching as a kid, when I first saw top gear