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Talking points from the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix including F1's new raceability, the dangers of the track and the politics of where we go racing.
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  • @chainbear
    @chainbear2 жыл бұрын

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  • @blakebarone1809

    @blakebarone1809

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will do. Right after you admit you haven’t actually read the “hideous” Florida House Bill 1557.

  • @tobywonkinoby8916

    @tobywonkinoby8916

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blakebarone1809 👍

  • @theoneandonlyAeth
    @theoneandonlyAeth2 жыл бұрын

    The big problem with Jeddah is that it's a regular circuit pretending to be a street track to get away with not having runoffs or adequate safety. You can't build a perfectly smooth racetrack purposely for 1 specific race and then call it a street track, it's just bullshit. Also the tunnels of catch fencing are hideous and disorienting.

  • @BolosYT

    @BolosYT

    2 жыл бұрын

    part of it is actually on what used to be a street, so in some way it is a street circuit

  • @theoneandonlyAeth

    @theoneandonlyAeth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BolosYT So was Spa and we're not calling that a street circuit.

  • @jadger1871

    @jadger1871

    2 жыл бұрын

    Monaco gets resurfaced every year days before the race happens. Calling any modern F1 track a "street track" is a misnomer at best.

  • @plaguebomb2712

    @plaguebomb2712

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BolosYT alignment chart: nurburgring norchliffe is a street circuit

  • @tapio_m6861

    @tapio_m6861

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was crazy difficult to follow especially during the first few sessions. The camera angles were almost at car height so all you saw was panning shot of cars either blasting through a turn or blasting through a straight. I didn't really learn the track at all during the weekend, after each change to a different driver from a different part of track I was lost at where we are in relation to the previous driver shown. Extremely disorienting, I hope we never see that track again.

  • @quadlando
    @quadlando2 жыл бұрын

    "I don't know about Vegas, everyone that goes there never says anything" 😂😂

  • @bocahdongo7769

    @bocahdongo7769

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing happened in Las Vegas

  • @rizkyanandita8227

    @rizkyanandita8227

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just don't google Las Vegas Raiders 2021 season.

  • @MsZeeZed
    @MsZeeZed2 жыл бұрын

    The racing problem is Jeddah was rushed in as a ‘temporary track’ on a piece of land that one day will be too valuable for a racetrack, but it now seems it’ll be here for a few more years. The FIA has done more than hand wave its safety rules for “the fastest street circuit in the world” and allowed some very 1980s barrier solutions to be used. The concrete walls need to go, the cost is not an issue here.

  • @emanuelemattianava9147

    @emanuelemattianava9147

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jeddah has decade long contract. Not a few more years...unfortunately.

  • @philspencelayh5464

    @philspencelayh5464

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emanuelemattianava9147 I'm guessing that Russia had contract too.

  • @emanuelemattianava9147

    @emanuelemattianava9147

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philspencelayh5464 yes and next year it was supposed to move to saint petersburg updated track. Which should be way better than sochi. I guess that russian races will be skipped for a while though

  • @splatbeef74

    @splatbeef74

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emanuelemattianava9147 no, there is a long contract, but it is not for Jeddah. The Saudi GP was supposed to move to a new, purpose-built circuit (that reminded a lot of Spa apparently) in Qiddiya for 2023, but I heard there were some delays, so 2024 is more likely

  • @emanuelemattianava9147

    @emanuelemattianava9147

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@splatbeef74 thanks for the clarification, i'll look it up. Seems like good news. At least it will be hard to worsen the situation track wise

  • @spambandit1237
    @spambandit12372 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou for mentioning Yemen, in all the "interviews" the only human rights issues that were brought up were internal ones. Oh and Nauru, top job!

  • @raihanrusli2720

    @raihanrusli2720

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well nobody wanted or barely mention external issue ones because if it is, so many countries would get trapped like UK and US, who intervened in so many places and have their own so many human rights issue

  • @TierNoneOperator

    @TierNoneOperator

    2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else find it a bit hypocritical that F1 races in Saudi but not Russia?

  • @davy_657

    @davy_657

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've been looking it up but I can't find any information about it, what is happening between Australia and nauru?? I really wanna learn about it

  • @mikespearwood3914

    @mikespearwood3914

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lostalone9320 Ummm...you realise Russia is majority white and christian, right?

  • @barlmax4095

    @barlmax4095

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TierNoneOperator Saudi is backed by America, they ain’t doing no war crimes like those pesky Russians if you don’t believe some, search “Obama Kunduz Hospital” for you to see how america and Saudi Arabia do honest god work on all of the Middle East 🙏🙏

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria2 жыл бұрын

    Jeddah in many ways turned into the Nikita Mazepin of tracks. Well, except the racing was good.

  • @Lastname6955

    @Lastname6955

    2 жыл бұрын

    And it actually managed a second season

  • @Crazy___Ginger

    @Crazy___Ginger

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its still a dangerous shit circuit.

  • @Arthurzeiro

    @Arthurzeiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    All thanks to the new regs, pretty sure even Valencia would make for a decent race at the very start of a new set of rules.

  • @Zeegoku1007

    @Zeegoku1007

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Crazy___Ginger Hopefully more modifications will be made in future for this track...

  • @petet968
    @petet9682 жыл бұрын

    Absolutly a death trap. 150 mph semi blind corners with no run off space what could go wrong?

  • @pucs82

    @pucs82

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a matter of time before there is a truly bad incident if modifications aren’t done to this circuit.

  • @frederikbrandt424

    @frederikbrandt424

    2 жыл бұрын

    Notice how it was only the amateur drivers who don’t deserve an F1 seat who crashed. The ones that actually are capable of performing did just fine. Perhaps it’s the nepotism and bribery in driver selection that needs to be dealt with.

  • @pucs82

    @pucs82

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frederikbrandt424 that attitude is probably what eventually led to Senna’s death. All drivers should be respected regardless of skill and also protected .

  • @frederikbrandt424

    @frederikbrandt424

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pucs82 This isn’t pillow fighting, they all know the risks of F1. If you don’t have the capabilities to drive a city track then find another sport. The cars are pretty much safer than a nuclear bunker at this point, nothing like back in Sennas time.

  • @pucs82

    @pucs82

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frederikbrandt424 you missed the point completely. You’ll say it’s the driver’s fault for ending up in a crash due to their skill level rather than track design until a driver you revere gets significantly injured or dies on that track. Other drivers nearly got caught out on the same portion of track that Mick did. It’s just a matter of time before someone seriously injured themselves on that track if the design isn’t modified to improve safety.

  • @Formulemur
    @Formulemur2 жыл бұрын

    I just dont think we should be racing in places where its a regular occurrence to be hit with bombs?? Like you can talk about the politics of countries like the US and UK but I think we all can agree that at least those countries arent under threat of literal missile strikes.

  • @F1Tom2005

    @F1Tom2005

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plus in the UK and US you can oppose the government and keep your life and freedom

  • @junsengjs

    @junsengjs

    2 жыл бұрын

    And funnily enough, racing in Russia now doesn't have the risk of getting hit by a stray missile.

  • @oyugilinus1503

    @oyugilinus1503

    2 жыл бұрын

    What are the chances though in those countries that someone blows up a fan stand, walks and stabs passers by with a knife, or does a drive-by shooting to protest F1 overtaking Nascar in popularity?

  • @InfinteIdeas
    @InfinteIdeas2 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to the politics stuff I think that even among the Middle Eastern nation Saudi Arabia has an abhorrent human rights record when compared to Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE

  • @callsignsoviet978

    @callsignsoviet978

    2 жыл бұрын

    well of course but we will race in china too so its not just the middle east

  • @bucketslash11

    @bucketslash11

    2 жыл бұрын

    the biggest human rights offender on the planet since WWII is by far USA, once you start reading about all the shit they've done across the world you wish they would collapse as fast as possible

  • @arusha8249

    @arusha8249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bucketslash11 Don't forget that Saudi is US backed, so that statement is doubly true

  • @PanzerFalcon2232

    @PanzerFalcon2232

    2 жыл бұрын

    Easy solution to the human rights, dont break the law

  • @sarthvk

    @sarthvk

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps we should discuss the United States' human rights record

  • @jack1464
    @jack14642 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos mate! So insightful and sophisticated. How are you enjoying this season so far?

  • @johnellisbushbush
    @johnellisbushbush2 жыл бұрын

    “I think F1 handled it pretty badly” that might as well be the tag line for the sport its happened so often

  • @yoeriw7099

    @yoeriw7099

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Qatar can be added to the list of countries that has a questionable human rights record, But F1 is still happy to go too and race.

  • @aavvv_
    @aavvv_2 жыл бұрын

    Way too early in my mind for them to seriously consider changes for DRS. Two great races so far this year, let’s hope it keeps going! I love the tactical battles, the drivers know better than I do to keep things safe among themselves.

  • @jo1e-de-v1vre

    @jo1e-de-v1vre

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! Lets see how the season plays out. We're getting some awesome racing this year all across the grid and people are wanting to make it worse all the sudden. I just dont get it.

  • @billhoult3262

    @billhoult3262

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think if the "DRS chicken" continues or worsens throughout the season, they should consider changing to 1 or maximum 2 DRS zones per track, for example in Jeddah it's only 1 corner between 2 of the DRS zones so if you pass before turn 27 you get re-passed immediately on the next straight. If there was a full lap between DRS zones, you wouldn't consider purposefully giving up position, but it'd still allow an opportunity for cars closely following. This isn't to say DRS needs changing, but I can see it possibly getting stupid and dangerous later this season, and I think if it does, then increasing the distance between consecutive DRS zones would stop dangerous manoeuvres.

  • @utkarshchaurasia2233

    @utkarshchaurasia2233

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's very gimmicky tho

  • @belladonnaRoot
    @belladonnaRoot2 жыл бұрын

    Upsides: following's good. We've got a good fight going on. etc Downsides: We shouldn't be racing in places that sweep dismembered journalists under the rug, or that are currently committing genocide (Not that any country doesn't have dark parts, but SA pushes hard to make insurgent attacks seem inconsequential) Meh: TV direction needs work, and Jeddah Circuit also needs more safer barriers and run-off areas. Also, walls that give a bit more; I think it was Nashville that had a ton of hard crashes with relatively minor injuries due to the fact that even unprotected/solid walls gave under high impact. Jeddah's walls took full-speed crashes without a dent.

  • @clansome

    @clansome

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought TV was actually quite good this week. It'll never satisfy everyone because "your favourite driver isn't featured enough" or whatever reason. However it's a big track and the cars were by and large spread out over it very quickly making it much harder to deal with. Personally I can't stand the "in cockpit" view, at least under lights and Crofty droning on about how great it looks didn't help.

  • @whyme943

    @whyme943

    2 жыл бұрын

    Genocide is a bit of an exaggeration, I think.

  • @luanalatte
    @luanalatte2 жыл бұрын

    Loving this format! So much to talk about on these races so far

  • @hellboy12190
    @hellboy121902 жыл бұрын

    I’m a new F1 fan and honestly your channel has been a great help - your comprehensive and fair coverage is much needed - thank you!

  • @stuartbartlett
    @stuartbartlett2 жыл бұрын

    This is honestly the best F1 channel on KZread. Amazing work, I hope you get a lot more viewers and subscribers this season.

  • @miggareto
    @miggareto2 жыл бұрын

    “Well I don’t know about Las Vegas, everyone who went there won’t talk about it” You raise a good point about this new Vegas race, how are any of us supposed to watch it if everyone is so damn secretive about what goes on there?

  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola2 жыл бұрын

    While I disagree with some of your political positions you made a good video. As an F1 fan, still I think "all the money in the world and they built that?!

  • @Lateralus14

    @Lateralus14

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which political positions do you disagree with?

  • @ZontarDow

    @ZontarDow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lateralus14 Personally my disagreement is on his opposition to the bill in Florida that, frankly, likely stems from not actually knowing what it contains given regardless of politics it's actually pretty hard to find an ideological reason to oppose it given it bans discussion of topics that would, in the UK or most other European countries, cause a scandal if it was ever discovered elementary school children where having such discussions in class and at the very least have all the adults involved fired and have their teaching licences revoked.

  • @cyrilb7608

    @cyrilb7608

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZontarDow This. Chain Bear comparing human rights violations and Yemeni humanitarian crisis / war with banning discussions of sexual topics in school until third grade. Man, regardless if you believe kids should discuss that in school that's quite a stretch to compare the two.

  • @rodrigodepierola

    @rodrigodepierola

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Lateralus14 i, on purpose, did not mention them. I'm keeping my participation firmly un F1. I mentioned the politics just to make clear they didn't just passed me by.

  • @lightfeather9953

    @lightfeather9953

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was like I'm listening to a Russian bot. "WhatAbout [insert insignificant thing] that's happening in the USA?" [that's also present in countless other countries]

  • @BerndDasBrot51
    @BerndDasBrot512 жыл бұрын

    Man your videos have just the right amount of information with a little pun like the las vegas one inbetween to keep things down to earth, keep up the good work!

  • @Mike-px6pg
    @Mike-px6pg2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Stuart, thanks for mentioning Australia's issues. We want better, but like the UK and US government doesn't listen

  • @HomemadeBrownies1

    @HomemadeBrownies1

    2 жыл бұрын

    If that were true, governments wouldn’t stay in power.

  • @TheVeyron623

    @TheVeyron623

    2 жыл бұрын

    Being an Australian myself, I did raise an eyebrow at the "I'm sure they don't do anything awful" line, but no, he did point out one of the things we don't do right.

  • @Tommmmmmmmmmmm

    @Tommmmmmmmmmmm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheVeyron623 but what should we do about all the refugees? Just… let them all in?

  • @aryanbansal6376
    @aryanbansal63762 жыл бұрын

    love your analysis of on track action . just great. keep it up

  • @paolostrada93
    @paolostrada932 жыл бұрын

    Great commentary as always. I think Brawn and co may have pulled it off! I look forward to seeing more of these this year

  • @marihove
    @marihove2 жыл бұрын

    Another well thought out video from you. Great job!

  • @delusionulll
    @delusionulll2 жыл бұрын

    Chain Bear you are the best at making f1 videos, keeper going

  • @MrAJScotty
    @MrAJScotty2 жыл бұрын

    This is the best video you ever made!

  • @Zzzlol94
    @Zzzlol942 жыл бұрын

    The race was amazing. One thing to mention is that it also shows how hopefully different the strategies will be moving forward. Bahrain was 3 stops and this was 1. It might show that on old surfacing, the tyres degrade much faster, no matter how hard they are. This track is very new, so lenient on the tyres. It might be that we're now getting exciting 1 stop races and boring 3 stop races, as the cars might not be able to push and overtake as frequently due to tyre wear.

  • @Nielsblog
    @Nielsblog2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed pretty much with all you points, but I don't think there isn't anything wrong with DRS as you put it. It has become part of the driver's toolkit and isn't much different from the "boosts" used in Formula E. Maybe we can have even more (strictly regulated) active aero devices in the future to prevent high-speed bouncing, or even aero-braking.

  • @PPedroFernandes
    @PPedroFernandes2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I LOVE the track itself. Seeing the drivers do those fast flowing corners is incredible. BUT! Every single outside wall needs to be pushed like 20 meters back. Same situation as Eau Rouge really. Great corner, shitty barrier.

  • @simi_lc8

    @simi_lc8

    2 жыл бұрын

    The track isn't bad, it's the fact its a death trap. Also, it would no longer be a "street circuit" with this fix

  • @PPedroFernandes

    @PPedroFernandes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simi_lc8 Who cares about being a "street circuit" that's just a stupid gimmick

  • @tedioussugar384

    @tedioussugar384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PPedroFernandes exactly, its a full racing circuit thats designed to call itself a street circuit. A street circuit has to use, you know.... real streets.

  • @junsengjs

    @junsengjs

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the inside walls need to be pushed back if not lowered so they aren't blind corners.

  • @sagarhiremath7
    @sagarhiremath72 жыл бұрын

    This is the Hypocrisy of F1 and the west.... If the drivers could talk directly about not racing in Russia, what happened in Saudi??? Isn't people losing life here? I'm gonna point Seb Vettel in specific...

  • @wiegraf9009

    @wiegraf9009

    2 жыл бұрын

    He literally just made a statement against Saudi after recovering from COVID. Give the guy a chance!

  • @sagarhiremath7

    @sagarhiremath7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wiegraf9009 Man, the things happening in Saudi is not yesterday or last week... It's been happening since long.. Just that the biased media couldc't hide it any longer.. I'm not here in debate...

  • @sagarhiremath7

    @sagarhiremath7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lostalone9320 That's the hypocrisy... The way you put your words, fall in it too...

  • @placeholder2924
    @placeholder29242 жыл бұрын

    Time to relax with a bit of coffee and Chain Bear.

  • @fredherfst8148
    @fredherfst81482 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful as usual. Tx

  • @speedweenie7394
    @speedweenie73942 жыл бұрын

    Good video. Glad someone is brave enough to bring up these issues while discussing F1.

  • @calvintola
    @calvintola2 жыл бұрын

    haven't they lengthened the DRS zone on multiple tracks back in 2017 or 2018 when the drivers complained they can't follow? Maybe they can try revert it to the old lengths and see how it works out, or they can try lower the maximum DRS gap? hell, maybe even making it like the wind tunnel testing time rule, the faster teams have less DRS gap while the slowest team had the biggest like some kind of success ballast, so the lower teams can follow better cars and maybe line up a move

  • @adenkyramud5005

    @adenkyramud5005

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the varying gap size idea... But with constant development of cars it would be a nightmare to keep some kind of bop...

  • @bitshous
    @bitshous2 жыл бұрын

    You make a great points here. Gracias.

  • @AndyG_
    @AndyG_2 жыл бұрын

    My god, your videos are amazing. Best f1 videos eva

  • @charamia9402
    @charamia94022 жыл бұрын

    Consise and informative as always.

  • @charleshollinshead
    @charleshollinshead2 жыл бұрын

    The FIA and Race control seriously need to improve. How long it took to get the vsc when the drivers stopped on circuit on the silly lap 37 or so was stupid. I think that proved that it wasnt just Masi but a systematic problem.

  • @wiegraf9009

    @wiegraf9009

    2 жыл бұрын

    The stewards need to be more professionalized tbh...

  • @AndrewFrink

    @AndrewFrink

    2 жыл бұрын

    or the lack of a call about Perez crossing the SC line second and Redbull keeping him ahead at the restart to protect Max. Those kinds of things feel like things that the computers should flag up the stewerds and it should take all of 30 seconds to hit the approve button. Basically Automated system detects two cars crossing the SC line too close together. Flags it, sends race control the car numbers, the order it thinks the crossing happened, the current order of the cars, and a slow-mo replay vide from parallel along the SC line. Bonus points for a link to the regs section(s) that apply to what it's flagging. Basically the same thing as the speeding in the pit lane.

  • @nachocortinas
    @nachocortinas2 жыл бұрын

    Hope you do one of this for every race!

  • @olivereiderhed6121
    @olivereiderhed61212 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @Mostafa_Domyati
    @Mostafa_Domyati2 жыл бұрын

    The last bit is amazing 👏

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann2 жыл бұрын

    As much as I loved seeing the new cars absolutely zip round the track at massive speeds, the track itself is far too dangerous

  • @olliesutton1804
    @olliesutton18042 жыл бұрын

    Whoever suggest that safety shouldnt be top priority in motor racing is an idiot. The primary purpose of them putting on the racing is for entertainment. Entertainment should never come at the cost of safety and thats not just the drivers, but everyone that helps the F1 weekend go ahead

  • @ArturCarvalho
    @ArturCarvalho2 жыл бұрын

    Love this format, sort of a "this week in F1".

  • @Cabinetbog06
    @Cabinetbog062 жыл бұрын

    Love this series! Quick request, on your track animations at the start of the video I could barely see the animated cars when watching on my phone, maybe it could zoom in a bit more in future? 🧡🧡

  • @studioviews

    @studioviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a brighter dot for the cars

  • @ConorB150
    @ConorB1502 жыл бұрын

    Do you think you could do a full video on the broadcasting side of F1 and how it can be improved? Would love your opinion on how you rate the broadcast from sky etc

  • @juliap8068

    @juliap8068

    2 жыл бұрын

    + great idea!

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf90092 жыл бұрын

    The cars are clearly not able to overtake without DRS in most conditions still. I would be for reducing the DRS zones or DRS strength though. Maybe they can bring back a push to pass style system with the 2025 PUs to emphasize the importance of battery development, and use that to complement a weaker DRS?

  • @princeendymion9044

    @princeendymion9044

    2 жыл бұрын

    So, basically KERS?

  • @wotwott2319

    @wotwott2319

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@princeendymion9044 the PUs today already has KERS

  • @princeendymion9044

    @princeendymion9044

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wotwott2319 ERS and KERS are different. ERS is the amount of energy the battery is releasing over a lap that is taken from heat energy and kinetic energy lost when braking and off throttle and it can be controlled as to how much is released and when. KERS was just a 7 second kick to the engine that was recharged under braking and what the OP describes sounds more like KERS where you're given a small boost to engine power in order to close the gap more quickly as opposed to today where you have a large battery store where you can control how much power it gives you.

  • @wiegraf9009

    @wiegraf9009

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@princeendymion9044 Yep!

  • @rbw3000
    @rbw30002 жыл бұрын

    Great nuanced video.

  • @petertr2000
    @petertr20002 жыл бұрын

    Seems like reducing the dirty air behind the cars is also reducing the overall air pressure behind the cars (go figure), and so decreasing the slipstream effect. At the moment, its hard to say if being able to follow closer before a straight is actually better this year than last, due to the lack of slipstream effect. Is it better, worse or about the same? i.e. you can get twice as close, before the straight, but only catch half as quickly going down it. It'll take time to tweak this stuff, though.

  • @amaizeing.dumbass5123
    @amaizeing.dumbass51232 жыл бұрын

    The actual race, besides of almost half the grid having engine problems and the shoddy camera work, didn't make too much of a impact in comparison to what happened since FP1 until the end of qualifying. FIA will have now so many critics, from both inside and outside the sport.

  • @GeniusLad32
    @GeniusLad322 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the issues with Australia, thejuicemedia's "Honest Government Ads" on Timor-Leste and West Papua are simultaneously eye-opening and hilarious. Would recommend.

  • @Peachrocks5

    @Peachrocks5

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah honestly if you start digging you find every country is guilty of terrible things. Some just have better propaganda departments. Saying as an Australian.

  • @blakedake19

    @blakedake19

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Peachrocks5 i would argue that what the australian government did and still does in that region is awful, but what the saudis are doing in Yemen and what they do in internal politics is much much worse. Khassoggi murder for example.

  • @nickhorton_

    @nickhorton_

    2 жыл бұрын

    British genocide of the Indigenous people in Australia, and many other parts of the world is totally ok though right?

  • @raihanrusli2720

    @raihanrusli2720

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blakedake19 yeah, but once a human right violation it is human rights violation nomatter which one is worse. Once F1 decided publicly to not race in a country with human rights violation, there will be so much talks because these people will also highlight human rights violations on western countries. And remember my first sentence. Because if F1 failed to manage this had they chose this route, the FIA would be stamped as double standard. And for me personally have seen this double standard so bad since this ukraine thing. Just to mention a few, sport wasnt supposed to be tied with politics so showing your political support in a sport is a big no. But suddenly football supporters in europe showed their support for ukraine with no sanction from UEFA, even though something similar happened months before but got fined. So yeah this is an extremely sensitive topic

  • @blakedake19

    @blakedake19

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@raihanrusli2720 Access to the internet is a human right recognised by ONU, the court of Aja and so on. I am certain that certain violations are worse than others. Bombing schools and hospitals in Yemen is worse than preventing internet access. Now, I do not want to do a tier list of some sort, but mistreating migrants and having ties with authoritarian governments with nations in the south indian ocean can not be on the same level as what the Saudis are doing in Yemen.

  • @Mercman1010
    @Mercman10102 жыл бұрын

    Last year the cars had way more drag and therefore the DRS was reducing drag by (for example) 20%. Now with all the underfloor downforce and the top side cleaned up the rear wing makes almost all the aero drag. So when you open that up they are getting ( for example) 50% less drag. I think this is why its so much stronger and i think the answer is just make the opening smaller. On the Missle strike. They attacked an ARAMCO factory. Excuse me of im wrong but ARAMCO is like the title sponser of F1. You would assume the giant track plastered in their banner would be priority target. I dont think they took it serious enough.

  • @Ashraf-ph3zl
    @Ashraf-ph3zl2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Chain Bear ♥️

  • @majikkskates9084
    @majikkskates90842 жыл бұрын

    I know it’s simple but for parts of track like T 27 in Saudi. I jus think moving the DRS detection to the apex, would be the perfect curveball to any teams trying to play DRS chess. Again I’m referring to the Jeddah track at turn 27

  • @raihanrusli2720
    @raihanrusli27202 жыл бұрын

    1. DRS strategy was so fun to watch, but drivers letting other drivers overtake or trying be the slowest has the danger of its own. 2. Saudi track concept which is high average speed is fun, and I hope there will be more, but why does it have to be like street circuit ? Kinda too dangerous with so many cons shown in the video

  • @arcstrider5728
    @arcstrider57282 жыл бұрын

    Best f1 channel around... 🙌

  • @TheBazzrt
    @TheBazzrt2 жыл бұрын

    How about they move some of the DRS detection points to after the corner instead of before it? I doubt they'll try to give up track position going onto the straight

  • @Appletank8

    @Appletank8

    2 жыл бұрын

    The reason DRS detection lines are behind the corner is because there's the risk the following car would lose so much pace going around they'd miss the timing entirely. Maybe the less problematic dirty air would reduce it somewhat, but it is still a concern.

  • @TheBazzrt

    @TheBazzrt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Appletank8 good one, I didn't think of that. If that has been the reasoning though, looking at the season so far it might be worth considering it at certain tracks.

  • @jcardboard
    @jcardboard2 жыл бұрын

    the circuit reminds me far too much of those Indy car street circuits that kept having bad crashes 20 years ago. doesn't seem safe to me at all.

  • @masattac
    @masattac2 жыл бұрын

    That Vegas joke had me DEAD mate!

  • @draconicdusk5911
    @draconicdusk59112 жыл бұрын

    The end killed me. Goes to show EVERYONE has dirty laundry.

  • @lightfeather9953

    @lightfeather9953

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nobody is perfect so legalize murder?

  • @felipeferraz356

    @felipeferraz356

    2 жыл бұрын

    Throwing women in prison for driving is definitely dirtier than prohibiting baby murder, come on. Also, in the US, you can complain about it if you want. Try complaining in Saudi Arabia.

  • @benfulford3943
    @benfulford39432 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. I definitely agree with a lot of the points especially with the tyres looking like they got the balance right there. I also agree that DRS was just too powerful there. While these new cars have done a lot for improving following through the corners, this has taken away their ability to slip stream down the straights as well (something my head has not got used to as I keep expecting cars to close up when they get a good drive out of the corner). This means that we aren't quite ready to get rid of DRS yet but it does need to be looked at to get the balance right. This is only the second race of the new era so there is plenty of time to rebalance the equation and get it right. Overall looks like the sport is going in the right direction on track. Off track however... There is a lot to talk about. It is still letting itself be played by brutal dictatorships. It's time F1 has a long hard look at itself and who it associates itself with.

  • @gianniskamakas3578
    @gianniskamakas35782 жыл бұрын

    @Chain Bear, totally loved your extra-political conversation. So many youtubers should become like you. Ban Russia? Yes. Why not Saudi? Why not UK? Even Japan has crazy laws. Thank you

  • @zachdoran10
    @zachdoran102 жыл бұрын

    people comparing the US and UK to saudi is just absolutely laughable

  • @rohankanna1819

    @rohankanna1819

    2 жыл бұрын

    To you

  • @nickhorton_

    @nickhorton_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you serious? Might wanna do some research on the history of the British Empire and the genocide committed in many, many countries.

  • @TheUselessGeniusX
    @TheUselessGeniusX2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe instead of shortening the start point of DRS zones, we shorten the end point? Ending the boost before the breaking zone?

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern74952 жыл бұрын

    let me give one opinion for what it's worth. Apparently American wrestling was effectively held hostage at the airport when they didn't put on a show one time. I got that vibe from the f1 teams, that they had little choice but to keep the event going. Now they had a good race but, now that drivers and teams are out of Saudi Arabia safely, they should refuse to go back. They were able to cancel Russia despite contracts. The same can be done to Saudi for the safety of teams & drivers.

  • @byst33
    @byst332 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if more information will come to light about the drivers' desire to cancel the race. I got the impression that they were forced to race against their will, which would indeed be very concerning.

  • @topiasr628

    @topiasr628

    2 жыл бұрын

    What makes you say that? Genuinely asking

  • @byst33

    @byst33

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lostalone9320 It wouldn't be suddenly changing their minds, there was literally a missile strike 20km away.

  • @byst33

    @byst33

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@topiasr628 the fact that the drivers meeting went on for so long and ambiguous PR statements from the teams and F1, combined with vague interviews from the drivers. I'm reading between the lines, which is why I'm anxious for more info. I could be proven wrong on this point. Also a lot of info has come to light about a dispute that WWE had with the Saudi government and the sketchy way that situation went down.

  • @fbritorufino
    @fbritorufino2 жыл бұрын

    I'm very inclined to think DRS should be a bit nerfed now. I think there's a chance the cars being able to race closer and keep so much of their downforce puts the DRS in a position where it can crucially tip the balance back and forth between a much wider range of cars than it did, such that most battles between reasonably level cars will turn into an artificial Arnoux Vs. Villeneuve -- yes, I'm arguing too much of a good thing might be bad in this specific scenario, because of the artificiality.

  • @tobznoobs
    @tobznoobs2 жыл бұрын

    that bit for Australia in the end.

  • @richardlehoux
    @richardlehoux2 жыл бұрын

    We are not searching for the perfect country to race at. Just not the absolute worst like Saudi Arabia. It’s like everything in life: if you wait for only the perfect solution, nothing happens.

  • @timjennings8152
    @timjennings81522 жыл бұрын

    DRS chicken will only be a "problem" with consecutive DRS zones and when the 2 drivers playing chicken have a considerable gap to the next driver. THIS WAS THE BEST RACE SO FAR

  • @emgee99
    @emgee992 жыл бұрын

    An idea might be to change the behaviour of the detection zones. Perhaps the detection should begin at the start of the DRS zone itself. It's hard to control your speed as you speed up rather than while decelerating, preventing DRS chickening as we're calling it 🐔

  • @aseq2
    @aseq22 жыл бұрын

    Why is everyone talking about making DRS zones shorter? Just make it weaker, make the opening panel smaller. It should just about get you next to the other car at the end of the zone, so you'd still have to rely on a better line/ later braking/ using the battery to get past someone.

  • @gthakur17
    @gthakur172 жыл бұрын

    You know what f1 wants more than great f1 racing -- money. Thats why they are in middle east

  • @majikkskates9084
    @majikkskates90842 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think this race was one of the best in terms of strategy with on track battles, that we’ve had in a while. If the season continues like this. Not only with the top battle be Amazing. But Formula 1.5 is going to be CUT THROAT

  • @studioviews
    @studioviews2 жыл бұрын

    Well said

  • @Runoratsu
    @Runoratsu2 жыл бұрын

    After how Jeddah went this year, I hope teams will simply refuse to attend next year if it still makes the calendar, points be damned.

  • @Personal_Chizo
    @Personal_Chizo2 жыл бұрын

    Ah, perfect ending. No notes. 😙👌

  • @majikkskates9084
    @majikkskates90842 жыл бұрын

    I do think there are improvements to be made to this Saudi street circuit. But I still hold to the belief that this really is Monaco but a big step faster.

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo65242 жыл бұрын

    or make the gap that opens much closer than it currently is when DRS is opened up

  • @jameslazar2933
    @jameslazar29332 жыл бұрын

    1. Don’t paint a DRS detection line 2. Shorten long DRS zones

  • @gammaphonic
    @gammaphonic2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t remove DRS, give everyone DRS, on every straight except the race leader. Also, introduce banana peels and blue spiny shells.

  • @sebastiansiegrist1786
    @sebastiansiegrist17862 жыл бұрын

    Well said about the relationship between F1 and oppressive regimes mate. Bit of an iffy one that.

  • @tortuga7160
    @tortuga71602 жыл бұрын

    Saudia Arabia seems to be pushing to get involved in alot of professional sports of late. Professional Wresting, Golf, F1, and even E-sports. I think its mostly PR rehabilitation.

  • @dgriffinctc3834
    @dgriffinctc38342 жыл бұрын

    Instead of removing DRS zones why not change DRS activation rules to allow the leader to also open the rear wing if the threatening car is within 0.2 seconds?

  • @jowie3708
    @jowie37082 жыл бұрын

    Got a really big rug down here in Aus, and plenty of people to man the brooms. Should be right

  • @AZBCDE
    @AZBCDE2 жыл бұрын

    Too many people who have nothing better to do but complain, just enjoy the racing at it’s purest whilst having element of danger

  • @maxpower5261
    @maxpower52612 жыл бұрын

    Great video (I'm Australian)

  • @TheIycegamer
    @TheIycegamer2 жыл бұрын

    if this track was in open space like bahrain with a little elevation change and runoffs it would be half decent

  • @ashleyw6728
    @ashleyw67282 жыл бұрын

    Almost every country has its current of recent problems, if we only went with politics we would have about 4 races a season

  • @ashleyw6728

    @ashleyw6728

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lostalone9320 what, is that some shite from the bible

  • @immatureradical
    @immatureradical2 жыл бұрын

    You may argue about the unsuitability of the track all you like, but no track is dangerous and impractical enough for F1 to quit sportswashing dictators and their murderous regimes. The gall of Domenicali who was practically claiming to be there because F1 is an integral part of bringing social progress to Saudi Arabia was sickening. Edit: ok I underestimated you and posted before the end of the video. You do make mention of some of it and other problematic races. Kudos for not being part of the problem.

  • @AmsterdamHeavy
    @AmsterdamHeavy2 жыл бұрын

    It would be a great track with gravel all around it. Not that crap modern runoff.

  • @LordandGodofYouTube
    @LordandGodofYouTube2 жыл бұрын

    Not having the DRS detection zone near a braking zone would help stop the shenanigans.

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian2 жыл бұрын

    Living in america, you have no idea how much I long for the days when news was boring and dull. "News" now adays is literally just talking heads yelling lies at you to try and get you upset.

  • @whyme943
    @whyme9432 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we could disable DRS if cars are too close, or changed positions within 5 seconds, to prevent DRS chicken.

  • @kishan813
    @kishan8132 жыл бұрын

    Would a limited cumulative duration of DRS use over the entire race, similar to what IndyCar does with “push to pass“, be a potential solution?

  • @Garvm
    @Garvm2 жыл бұрын

    We should do more events in Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government is trying to do events in the country for publicity reasons, but every time it backfires terribly. This is an obscure country that most people cannot differentiate to UAE, so every time a football match or a race done in Saudi is a great opportunity to talk about slave work, Yemen or the situation of women.

  • @jeffreytackett3922
    @jeffreytackett39222 жыл бұрын

    It sure feels like this is the kind of issue that arises from having too many restrictions and rules, in the first place. You create a restriction, and it has an unintended impact, so you create a rule to deal with it, and it changes the purpose of the restriction, so you create another restriction, and it resolves the first issue, but gets exploited to create an altogether new problem. The new problem is addressed with yet another restriction, which starts the process all over again. Seems to be F1, in a nutshell.

  • @benbradbury3665
    @benbradbury36652 жыл бұрын

    DRS should take a 180. And only be available when your more than 1 second from the car in front. And some rule to stop drs trains..

  • @_Razpberrie
    @_Razpberrie2 жыл бұрын

    If F1 had a moral compass it would not be able to host any race in any nation. Humanity as a whole is a naughty boy so lets just race and enjoy our time before we used up the planet.

  • @mcracelab4579
    @mcracelab45792 жыл бұрын

    I think they got drop drs and move towards battery deployment push to pass like in indycar. They could even make it so that drivers get a limited number of p2p per race like 100 seconds or something. It will introduce a strategy game like in indycar with drivers needing to save p2p for crucial moments of the race. Say you need an extra boost to pip a driver in the pits.

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper12 жыл бұрын

    Glad you mentioned at least the comparisons with the USA we aren’t perfect either & everything has to be relative. Kinda wild to hear what’s going on in Texas & Florida of late with far right & no journo in F1 every mentions it & if anything the coverage is only how everyone loves Austin & the BBQs. Rather tone deaf, we can’t just be vocal on one issue towards certain countries & not look inward

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