Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 | Full Review | Ready for Race Day

Meaghan and Robbe review the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4, a race day shoe with a PWRRUN HG footbed, PWRRUN PB midsole, super responsive sockliner (that's the technical term), and an airy mesh in a lightweight package. Available March 1 for $225.
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00:00 Intro
01:41 Background & History
02:45 The Upper
04:49 The Midsole & Ride
5:08 The Drop
05:20 Weight
09:02 Price
10:36 Red Light or Green Light?
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  • @kjyang15
    @kjyang156 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that it still feels good at most paces which is why I used it primarily for my long run workouts!

  • @nkeet89
    @nkeet896 ай бұрын

    It's a great shoe for people with wide feet. The Nike lineup is just so tight and made for people with super narrow feet. I can't wait to get mine.

  • @alfiearmstrong

    @alfiearmstrong

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny, because I found the Endorphin Pro 3 way too cramped in the toe box in a size UK 12 and then have loads of room in the Nike Vaporfly 3 in a UK 12

  • @witarzan

    @witarzan

    22 күн бұрын

    I tried them on and thought the toe box was tight and I don't have wide feet.

  • @carlblundon1884
    @carlblundon18846 ай бұрын

    I've been waiting for this review - thanks for posting! I loved the Endorphin Pro 3 and bagged a number of PBs in them. Can't wait for the 4!

  • @odarge

    @odarge

    7 күн бұрын

    were you happy with the Pro 4, after some months ? tnx

  • @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
    @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron21836 ай бұрын

    V3 was the first CP shoe that really worked for me. I’d previously race in the Speed2 but this was a step up for marathon distance in particular. I had an 18:00 PR over the previous year on the same course and while I did train harder and probably fueled better as well, the shoe played a role. It sounds as if I’ll like v4 as much or better. Crossing my fingers….

  • @jollyroger1009
    @jollyroger10096 ай бұрын

    That was a really good idea to compare the Pro 4 on one foot and the Elite v4 on the other. They both look like good shoes.

  • @Pheelip
    @Pheelip6 ай бұрын

    Great review! Can’t wait for the discounts on the pro 3.

  • @Kaisersozze

    @Kaisersozze

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah its better looking also than this 4.

  • @danielmcdonald9917

    @danielmcdonald9917

    6 ай бұрын

    Discounts on the pro 3 have had discounts for the last 4 months

  • @liamhockey9189
    @liamhockey91896 ай бұрын

    Happy you guys are posative about these and the speeds 👊

  • @JS-xn3dq
    @JS-xn3dq6 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I love that Saucony is making positive changes to their shoes (at least this one) and not raising the price! Well done, Saucony!! 👍

  • @justoutlaw6423

    @justoutlaw6423

    6 ай бұрын

    Other reviews are not so positive. Makes me wanna wait a bit on these.

  • @JS-xn3dq

    @JS-xn3dq

    6 ай бұрын

    @@justoutlaw6423 thank, I’ll check some others out. Just got v3 a bit ago and really like that, albeit with only limited miles. I do wonder about super shoes with dual midsoles.

  • @Re1ampag0
    @Re1ampag06 ай бұрын

    Y'all should do a race day shoe rank list.

  • @NicoI
    @NicoIАй бұрын

    I’ve had every single version and they never disappoint. Happy with the 4th!

  • @Joe-oe3ui
    @Joe-oe3ui6 ай бұрын

    loved the fun energy between you today:D

  • @dbiscoc287
    @dbiscoc2876 ай бұрын

    Saucony has got the most comprehensive running shoe line out. There, I said it!

  • @therangersinger

    @therangersinger

    6 ай бұрын

    Asics!

  • @Rcorp31

    @Rcorp31

    6 ай бұрын

    Preach

  • @dbiscoc287

    @dbiscoc287

    6 ай бұрын

    Fair

  • @cb4atl
    @cb4atl6 ай бұрын

    So sad about the Shifts being gone. GOAT shoes for long, easy miles, I hope the Hurricane keeps up the tradition of these beloved beauties.

  • @joelkehm4234
    @joelkehm42345 ай бұрын

    So I started watching this because I’m on the fence buying the Pro 3 or waiting on this shoe, but what blew me away was recognizing the background beat in the video, which was created right here in my house in Rhode Island! I feel like it’s a sign that this is my shoe!

  • @Believeintherun

    @Believeintherun

    5 ай бұрын

    Incredible

  • @Manuel_712
    @Manuel_7126 ай бұрын

    Good morning. Like to Meaghan and Robbe.¡¡¡¡¡Saucony for ever!!!!!. A nice weekend for everyone.

  • @kaprikornian1
    @kaprikornian16 ай бұрын

    Pro 4 and Speed 4 will definitely be in my shoe rack in the next months!

  • @justoutlaw6423

    @justoutlaw6423

    6 ай бұрын

    Other reviews are not so positive.

  • @Lewis714

    @Lewis714

    5 ай бұрын

    @@justoutlaw6423really? Every speed I’ve seen has been positive

  • @MrNooge
    @MrNooge5 ай бұрын

    Did my first workout in the Pro 4 today. The upper and the laces are stretchier than the pro 3 - had to retie twice and synch down much harder than I usually would to prevent heel slip. I might try a runner’s knot next time Midsole seems more responsive than the 3 - better for faster paces. Comfort was good too (about the same). The toebox feels a bit wider to me or maybe it’s because it doesn’t taper in as much.

  • @Feanaro5503
    @Feanaro55036 ай бұрын

    I got the Pro 2 for $100 last March. Going to use it for a half marathon in April.

  • @northerngamingygo4274

    @northerngamingygo4274

    6 ай бұрын

    It's a good half marathon shoe

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker99996 ай бұрын

    I believe super shoes are being engineered for all paces. If you have the extra cash, why not train in super shoes and save your muscle fibres? Thanks for the review guys.

  • @TC55555

    @TC55555

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree as long as they last! Nike dropped the ball when 200 miles and their race day shoes are done! Saucony racers can last 400 miles. That's a big difference when spending $200+ for a shoe! The Speed and Pro are both good all around shoes. I can do everything in the speed and be happy! I have the Pro version 1 with 250 miles. It still has a lot left! Saucony makes their shoes to last! Great Video!

  • @snowwalker9999

    @snowwalker9999

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TC55555 yes and I am considering getting the Pro 4 for training and the elite for racing.

  • @sneakpick129

    @sneakpick129

    6 ай бұрын

    That's what I do.. My Race day shoes are my training shoes mostly

  • @pinty2109

    @pinty2109

    6 ай бұрын

    I think kipchoge actually does that, could be wrong tho

  • @MrNooge

    @MrNooge

    5 ай бұрын

    Does training in super shoes means you don’t get the same muscle stimulus as before? Some muscles will work less and others harder - e.g. my calf muscles feel more sore after using plated shoes for lots of training

  • @Fuerza_Athlete_Josh
    @Fuerza_Athlete_Josh6 ай бұрын

    Definitely going to get a pair. Loved the 3s and seems like good upgrades for the 4. Awesome review!

  • @runhanrunnl
    @runhanrunnl6 ай бұрын

    Tempting! Really wanna see the comparison with the NB SC Elite 4 (ran in Speed 1 & RC Elite 2)

  • @billyharris7426
    @billyharris742612 күн бұрын

    The shift 3 is a great shoe super comfy don’t know what they were thinking

  • @coreyadcock
    @coreyadcock6 ай бұрын

    Thanks....for the cc bills.😂

  • @hahaheslop
    @hahaheslop6 ай бұрын

    Love the Pro 3 and Speed 3, will wait until this is discounted. Getting so expensive 😩

  • @iosifkovalenko8364

    @iosifkovalenko8364

    6 ай бұрын

    the prices didn’t go up on these

  • @hahaheslop

    @hahaheslop

    6 ай бұрын

    That's good, but I mean 'full price'.

  • @oneone9884
    @oneone98846 ай бұрын

    Ran DC marathon in the 3’s. Really like them though took some getting used to from my asics

  • @igmpvgoa1837
    @igmpvgoa18376 ай бұрын

    I need some Saucony shoes in my rotation!!

  • @moreybrown870
    @moreybrown8706 ай бұрын

    Yes, we’re talking about you Nike, re: race shoes that feel strange and unstable running slowly. I’ve loved all the other Endorphins (ok, Shifts notwithstanding). And the Speed 3’s have become my favorite daily trainer for everything but the slowest days. I save some 1’s and 2;s for track day. Will put these on my short list for my new spring marathon shoe. Although, my VaporFly2’s still have another race left in them.

  • @dennisjordan8300
    @dennisjordan83006 ай бұрын

    I hated the tonged on the #3 Version it slipped down all the time, I saw that was a big issue for #3. I am hoping this will feel better. Thanks as always!

  • @Freebird65

    @Freebird65

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree the tongue always slipped down on my endorphin pro 3. Such a pain to stop during runs to pull it back up. Not sure I want to drop $225 on the pro 4 until I hear they have fixed that issue

  • @bedillar
    @bedillar6 ай бұрын

    The tongue slides down on the Pro 3... otherwise it's great. Looking forward to the 4.

  • @wilmoore5259
    @wilmoore52596 ай бұрын

    Looks so much better than the previous version.

  • @edrios3668
    @edrios36686 ай бұрын

    Great review! enjoy the chemistry between the two of you, quick question, in terms of a Racing shoe, would you say these are one of the most stable racing shoes, I have developed PTTD recently, so going forward I need a shoe with more arch support, which these seem to have. I'm guessing the 3 is also good for stability relative to other racing shoes.

  • @Believeintherun

    @Believeintherun

    6 ай бұрын

    Fairly stable overall

  • @OttoVogrincic
    @OttoVogrincic6 ай бұрын

    This might be the first time I pay full price for a running shoe

  • @kevinclark5086
    @kevinclark50866 ай бұрын

    This is on my shortlist for my marathon. I really like the adidas pro 3 but im not sure if it could be a tad firm for me for a full marathon. Im not sure when adidas pro 4 will be released. Edit pro 4 only an upper update it seems. Disappointing.

  • @copperdan7667
    @copperdan76675 ай бұрын

    Would you recommend the Saucony Pro 4 or are the Saucony Elite for marathons? I raced in the Saucony Pro 3 last year and really did like them but I'm about ready to upgrade. I'm just trying to make a decision

  • @TolunayOrkun

    @TolunayOrkun

    5 ай бұрын

    They are both Marathon shoes. Elite is pure HG favoring those with higher paces. I think most non-elite will be happy with Pro 4.

  • @jeanlee28
    @jeanlee285 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your reviews on this shoe in detail. Actually, always been wearing my running shoes in half size upped than my casual shoes and I also have ordered this pair of Endorphin Pro 4 in a half size bigger. Now I'm a bit worried if they'd be too big or roomy on my feet. 🙄😑

  • @WilltoImprove
    @WilltoImprove6 ай бұрын

    Waiting for pro 3 to go on sale like speed 3 just but want to try both

  • @edelkebap
    @edelkebap6 ай бұрын

    Dear Sacuony: BRING BACK THE MUTANT COLOR!

  • @fabsterun

    @fabsterun

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @MrJdub905

    @MrJdub905

    6 ай бұрын

    Preach!!!!

  • @witarzan
    @witarzan12 күн бұрын

    Are they good for mid foot strikers?

  • @x1928
    @x19286 ай бұрын

    Will definitely be taking these to Rome in March as AF3s and Elites are nowhere to be found unless you want to pay double on ebay.

  • @fluffybunny2984
    @fluffybunny29845 ай бұрын

    When saucony releases a new shoe do they discount the previous model! In my opinion the pro 3 looks a lot nicer and I want to snag that one for my marathon. Idk if I should wait or just pull the trigger!

  • @andriekal
    @andriekal5 ай бұрын

    Curious what's Meaghan's top 3 race day shoes at the moment, Endorphin Pro 4, AF 3 and ??????

  • @KR-no1or
    @KR-no1or6 ай бұрын

    Question. This shoe or the New Balance SC Elite v4 for a sub 3:35 marathon attempt 35 Years old 5'6'' 145 lbs dude?

  • @prwnrdy
    @prwnrdy6 ай бұрын

    I went 0.5 up the EP3, how’s the sizing on these?

  • @supersergio7617
    @supersergio76176 ай бұрын

    shoe looks fire

  • @Overeasyrunning
    @Overeasyrunning6 ай бұрын

    I will never understand shoe companies sending out retail versions of shoes months in advance and not letting people talk about them Is there a reason that I’m not aware of? We’ve seen plenty of footage of the 4 since last FEB

  • @Amtcboy
    @Amtcboy6 ай бұрын

    I feel the 3 needed more some arch support, for me at least. Does the 4 have the same arch as the 3?

  • @michaeldominic2070
    @michaeldominic20706 ай бұрын

    Is the toebox super narrow like the Pro 3?

  • @jollyroger1009
    @jollyroger10092 ай бұрын

    Hit him with the shoe Meaghan 😂.

  • @thejeffinvade
    @thejeffinvade6 ай бұрын

    Time to buy endorphin pro 3 on discounts

  • @airyeric
    @airyeric4 ай бұрын

    Hey meaghan is the 4 less harsh under the toes?

  • @davidpearson6011
    @davidpearson60115 ай бұрын

    Is the toebox a medium width on the Pro4 and true to size

  • @duanesidney9761
    @duanesidney97616 ай бұрын

    TTS??

  • @hunt-byfaith
    @hunt-byfaith6 ай бұрын

    Are they as narrow in the mid foot as the pro 3?

  • @markspinozzi2882
    @markspinozzi28824 ай бұрын

    Does anyone make a race day shoe for people who need support? Most of the race day shoes I've seen are neutral.

  • @Believeintherun

    @Believeintherun

    4 ай бұрын

    Look for the ones with wider platforms. The plates help, but race day shoes are set up for speed and not support.

  • @TheHutchRuns
    @TheHutchRuns6 ай бұрын

    Great video guys, wasn't a fan of V3 and, having bought some AF3 and 2 pairs of Hoka Rocket X2, I don't think I'll be investing in these. A lot more excited by the new Speed 4's!

  • @antoniettebuenaventura9827
    @antoniettebuenaventura98273 ай бұрын

    Will this shoe perform well in half marathon

  • @Believeintherun

    @Believeintherun

    3 ай бұрын

    If the runner does the shoe will follow

  • @FitRell360
    @FitRell3606 ай бұрын

    Nice shirt Robbie! #Kofuzi

  • @hawghawg381
    @hawghawg38114 күн бұрын

    Ran 3 miles.. 17:44 in Michael Jordan basketball shoes. In 1999, shoes dont matter.

  • @cappox
    @cappox3 ай бұрын

    Got this for my wide feet😂

  • @abbyschwendler1107
    @abbyschwendler11076 ай бұрын

    I want to like Saucony, but EVERY Saucony shoe kills my feet. Too much arch support for me.

  • @3November953am
    @3November953am6 ай бұрын

    That red lining looks like a Nike swoosh.

  • @user-xr9vj5so7m
    @user-xr9vj5so7m6 ай бұрын

    1:18 still having this take in 2024 is a lil silly. nike is far from what it was 3-4 years ago

  • @TC55555

    @TC55555

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree! Nike is not as high up there anymore! Adidas and Saucony are closing in on the gap! Nike switched to making poor quality, good performance shoes. Their shoes fall apart after 200 miles!

  • @magnusskold9134
    @magnusskold91345 ай бұрын

    Nike as the first tier is so not accurate anymore.

  • @Spudsmachenzie1

    @Spudsmachenzie1

    4 ай бұрын

    Are you saying Saucony has reached that tier?

  • @magnusskold9134

    @magnusskold9134

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Spudsmachenzie1 Megan says Nike is at the top tier and then everybody else is below them and it’s not accurate anymore. For example Asics Metaspeed Paris is crushing both Alphafly and Vaporfly at the moment. Definitely at the same tier as Nike - or even above Nike for the time being.

  • @bearsareusjsbl
    @bearsareusjsbl6 ай бұрын

    Car crash review. You got the price wrong The iteration spoken as the 3 when it's the 4 Bland delivery.

  • @cookinginpawleys
    @cookinginpawleys6 ай бұрын

    Pro 1: weird tongue Pro 2: semi-normal tongue Pro 3: what the f**k is going on with that tongue? Pro 4: weird tongue, but still not as weird as 3

  • @fabsterun

    @fabsterun

    6 ай бұрын

    Love the tongue on the 3. No lace bite . Easy to tie down .. and breathable. Best shoe ever

  • @keithc1264
    @keithc12646 ай бұрын

    11/8 of all people don’t understand fractions.

  • @hawghawg381
    @hawghawg38114 күн бұрын

    No such thing as training shoe and race day shoe! Runners run! This is a money making thing.

  • @I_hate_charlatans_like_mkbhd
    @I_hate_charlatans_like_mkbhd6 ай бұрын

    This is yo momma with believe in the run