They were my racing shoe for 2023. THE most comfortable shoe I’ve ever worn. Whatever Saucony is bringing out for 24, I’ll be in it

@Blaxican_RSH

8 ай бұрын

what tvbarn said !

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear they’ve worked out so well for you!

Glad you're still doing 100 mile reviews. Floating shoe looks cool

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

It used to be that this time of year was mostly 100 mile updates. But lately, there seem to be more releases later in the year

This was the shoe I raced Chicago in. Slashed 5 minutes off my PB and ran my first sub-2-fifty. They felt great the whole way and for the 26.2k marathon simulator I used them for five weeks before. I remember how excited I was whenever I ran in the VF4% for the first time. Since then, the other super shoes haven’t given me that novel wow factor…until the Endorphin Elite. For me, it was a wow among wow-shoes.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Congratulations on the PB!

Fantastic review as always! Stoked to see the adios Evo 1 after 100 miles review 😂

Was a pleasure to meet you at the CIM shakeout run. Got these in too late so didn't get to wear them on race day. Hope to meet you again in a future race...Chicago, CIM in 2024? Love your content by the way.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for joining in the shakeout. Hope you had a great race!

Commenting mostly for the algorithm since I'll probably never own a pair myself with that price tag. It's amazing to me that you have such glowing things to say about a shoe that actually _hurt_ you. You're a far more forgiving man than I.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

The only other race shoe to make me bleed was the Nike Vaporfly 4% Flyknit Ekiden Thanks for commenting!

These and the A6 Sky "lurches" me forward, like they are meant to I think, on days when I need a little help running faster, they are fantastic!

Hi Mr.Kofuzi always run safe.I'm your avid fan of your KZread channel.Keep safe and Godspeed!😉💪☝️

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Thank you 👍

Definitely a nice race shoe! Feels a tad firmer than what most other top end shoes do, like vaporfly, rocket X2, wave rebellion pro, SC elite v2. Super responsive though! Gonna come down to preference, as always. And super expensive! But the upper is just perfection..

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I am continually perplexed by people who find the Rocket X2 to be soft

@fragpack

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi as compared to what, the elite? Or race shoes in general? Most reviews I read/watched rated it as a pretty soft shoe. But I guess it's very subjective. Will probably depend on the plate as well, the placement of said plate, your running style, etc. I tested it directly against the saucony elite, the rebellion pro and the SC elite v3, and in terms of softness, I'd say it was on par with the rebellion, the saucony being the firmest, and the SC elite v3 being the softest. Many other factors to consider when buying a race shoe, obviously.

Despite you got the shoes for free, you still gave honest review and revealed the issues, which I salute. Thank you for sharing 👍🏼

This is the best review you’ve done that I have seen. I’ve seen a lot. You put a lot of quality thought into this one. Thx! Elite price is ridiculous still! I have Puma & Adidas back on my list. I’m a forefoot striker. 6’2” ~168 lbs. Run in New Balance SC Trainer 2 & Endorphin Speed 3. Race in Nike Vaporfly 2. Love all 3 shoes. Faster as I get older.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much 🙏

Endorphin Pro 3’s were my 2023 racer, but I’ve been curious about the Elite since it dropped early this year. Saucony is making the choice difficult!

Just ordered a pair. Hope to get it in time for CIM this weekend. I'll be attending the Fleetfeet shakeout run this Saturday. Hope to see you there!!!

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Looking forward to meeting you!

This will be the shoe I go to after I wear down my Sky+

I found them on a local shop for half the price and got me a pair. I ended up shedding 3 minutes of my half marathon pb. Really good and comfortable shoe.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Nice price

@albertosanchez3403

8 ай бұрын

@kofuzi when I first saw them, I was like, no way. I kept looking at them and finally grabbed them and ask, how much for these?" They said 50% off. So I got them for $137.

@DarkPa1adin

8 ай бұрын

Where?

@albertosanchez3403

8 ай бұрын

@DarkPa1adin At a local shop in Raleigh NC called Runologie.

@zeri5284

8 ай бұрын

@@albertosanchez3403you literally rob them 😂,but congrats for getting the super deal

Very helpful. Thanks for your insight and candor.

@kofuzi

4 ай бұрын

Glad you found the video, Justin!

Glad to hear that the issue you noticed on the balls of your feet has gone away. I wore these for my first marathon and noticed that my foot started hurting exactly where you were pointing to on the shoe in the last quarter of the race.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Were you able to finish?

@orinb9918

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuziI did finish the race. Second half was noticeably slower than the first half though due more to leg cramps than foot pain.

I’m planning to wear it to Boston & I’m hoping it serves me well at the Mesa Half. I love the Pro & Speed 3.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Good luck at your races!

Well done as always Mike, i havent tried the elite yes but those adios pro 3 sure are nice ive done a few runs in mine now

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear you’re enjoying them!

Glideride 3 is SO underrated. I love mine.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

It really is

@OSUCarol

8 ай бұрын

I JUST picked up the GR3 now that it is starting to be discounted. I definitely needed a run to get used to the rocker (it really strained the toes on my first run), but I immediately thought it seemed like the perfect acclimation trainer for the Endorphin Elite. It's also the Asics that reminds me most of my Sauconys, which is a very good thing! I heard rumblings there will be a new Glideride after all, but if not, I'd definitely consider snagging a 2nd pair of the 3s.

Props for continuing to run in a shoe that first made you bleed

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I didn’t even notice it until I took off the shoe that day

For those of us who enjoy doing longer speed sessions in the Endorphin Speed 3, is the Pro a better racing option than the elite? (I use the ES3 for longer threshold/race pace efforts, and the NB Rebel 3 for shorter, uptempo workouts, Saucony Ride & Triumph for LSD runs and recoveries. Considering getting the NB 1080 13 for that purpose).

I tried this on and it felt very aggressive to me-probably too much from my marathon pace. I’ve had such good luck with the Endorphin Pro3 I’m poised to pick up as many as two more pairs when discounted once v4 comes out, especially after early reports that it’s changed significantly.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

The endorphin pro 3 is such a good shoe. Agreeable for most people. Great price (even at full price). And a very tailored fit

I used these shoes for NYC Marathon this year. I improved my finish time by 18 minutes. (just saying).

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Very nice!

Great review after some miles in them! Any plans on a comparison to the Pro 3 or Speed 3? That might be the hardest thing for people to really grasp when in the market for a Saucony plated shoe...

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I am not currently planning on making that video. I would say that, if you’re not considering any of the alternatives that I suggested in this video, then the endorphin elite is probably also not what you want.

@nberkel

8 ай бұрын

Interesting. Not what I would have thought given there is so much overlap in the target market and use case. 🤷‍♂️

Dude, love your videos. Great structure, great shots, great editing!! I’d love to see some real time run impressions. Like filming a session where you use the shoe for the first time with real time thoughts on the video at the track or on the road. Keep up the great work!🍾

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I’ve considered filming the narrative portion from the run, kind of like how Top Gear talks about the car from behind the wheel and weaves that in with voiceovers. But that creates a lot of extra work, not to mention potential audio issues. But I find real-time impressions to be unnecessarily preliminary for the same reasons that people get mad if you don’t have like 20-30 miles in a shoe before you review it.

@mikelesage7133

8 ай бұрын

I can appreciate this reasoning for not doing that. Keep on the good work man!👊🏼

Kofuzi I need your expert opinion: Saucony Endorphin Elite or Adidas Prime X2 Strung? (Looking for new shoes to start training again for a HM after recovering from injury)? Thank you!

@kofuzi

4 ай бұрын

the endorphin elite is a racing shoe and the prime x2 is racing shoe-esque. I'm not sure I'd pick either one as re-entry points for training. if you're a Saucony fan, consider the Speed 3 (or the new Speed 4 (I haven't tested it yet though)). if you're an Adidas fan, consider the Boston 12

@carlosmujica9918

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! This definitely helps @@kofuzi

Was not expecting that literal gag reel at the end 😂

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I ran a lot of fun workouts in this shoe

I haven't worn the elites, but I'm a bit skeptical of Saucony right now. I adored the Speeds and Speed 2s, nearly 2000 miles combined in various pairs of those. No problems with them whatsoever, and easily took multiple pairs of them to ~400 miles. I'm now in my 3rd pair of Speed 3s and all of them have had issues. They still feel good underfoot, but the first pair wore through the rubber on the balls of my feet at ~250 miles. The second pair had pieces of the rubber just fall off around 125-150 miles. The rubber on the third pair wore through at 238 miles. All three pairs looked great for the first 100 miles or so, and then rapidly declined.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

This isn’t an Endorphin Speed

@AndyJHahn

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi For sure. It just makes me a bit leary across the Endo line. Granted these are racing shoes are are probably not actually intended for that many miles. The rest of the current Endo line has the same XT-900 rubber. Saucony is mysteriously silent on what rubber the Pro has. Perhaps it's different from the Shift, Speed, and Pro. But, if it's the same, I suspect it will fall off really quickly past 150 or maybe 200 miles.

@LR6092

8 ай бұрын

I just took a pair of speed 3 to 500 miles and a second pair at 200 going strong

I wish the new colorway of the shoe to be all matte black finish?🤔

Do you still recommend this for 5k racing or are there better options? Did Mile repeats in them today and loved them. I keep debating if I want to go Rebellion Pro or Endorphin Elite on race day. Ahhh the lovely problem runners face 😂

Toe scraping during running is related to gait, and we can train it out

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Good to know!

Can I used for 1600 meter and 100 meter racing

@kofuzi

5 ай бұрын

it might be a bit heavy and may violate stack height rules for those distances on the track. check your rules

The big question with this shoe for me has always been if the differences between it and the Endorphin Pro 3 are enough for a back of pack runner to notice or feel. Despite being slow, I enjoy wearing legit race shoes. I feel like they save my legs (I'm a heavy guy) and it just makes me feel good.

@teetertotter5787

8 ай бұрын

I'm a slower runner too. I found the Endorphin Pro 3 a bit too narrow and the heel angle dug into my achilles. The angle of the toe box didn't work for me either. I find the Elite to be way more comfortable. I don't know if I would notice a difference otherwise if the Pro 3 fit me as well too.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

The Elite has a wider footprint. Although it’s a substantial difference in price, I’d nevertheless recommend it for runners who like the Endorphin Pro 3 but find that shoe to be a bit unstable

@elliotendures

8 ай бұрын

Thanks,@@kofuzi. I don't find the EP3 unstable at all despite having some occasional stability concerns. This shoe is just so damn tempting.

Alphafly 1 was my marathon shoe in 2022 CIM, This year it will be the Endorphin 3.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

A good choice

Personally I still think the vaporfly next% 1 is the best marathon racing shoe.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I’m partial to the 4% flyknit, but that might be the nostalgia talking

Hey kofuzi! Any thoughts on Elite vs Pro 3? I've used both during training runs and feel like the Pro is a bit more stable whereas the Pro is a bit more wobbly. I haven't felt a huge difference in terms of RPE or heart rate during training runs in both. I'm a 3:04 marathoner hoping to get down to sub-3 ay Sugarloaf this weekend!

@kofuzi

3 ай бұрын

I think there’s a typo in there but ultimately, if you have them both, the shoe that is best for you is the one you feel best in. Your experience trumps my expertise

@jdr22005

3 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi thanks so much! you're right - should have said I felt like the Elite is more wobbly :)

I’m not buying this but I still watched the whole video

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

thanks for making it to the end!

If I wanted a shoe from 5k to half marathon, would you recommend this over the Takumi sen 10? Since that one is out now.

@kofuzi

4 ай бұрын

I find that the Takumi would be difficult for most people to race for a half marathon. I'm not sure I'd choose it for a race distance of over 10 miles.

I hope you can have the ASICs S4 and do some reviews. 😊

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Nope. It’s a Japan-only release. I generally don’t review shoes that I can’t buy in the US.

I thought this shoe would be a natural for me since I’ve been racing in the Speed and Pro for the last two years, but the arch was too high for me. Just walking was uncomfortable.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I think for some people, the Endorphin Pro may still be the better racing shoe. A lot comes down to not just preferences but what does or doesn’t work for you

Most comfortable amazingly fast marathon race shoe of the year.

Thanks Ko! Good one as always. One question if I may, how many hundred miles do you think before this shoe lose it magic? Do you think it can go 250 miles before it is no longer good for a race?

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I can’t think of a single racing shoe that I’d want to take that far

I've had trouble finding them. Lots of sizes sold out from the Saucony site and other retailers

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I hope a restock is on its way 🤞

Is the foam has become a little softer compared to when the shoe was new? more spring back as the Alphafly v1 is that even possible :D If so then i need the shoe😮 At the moment i have one pair of adios pro 3 and i like it really . but since you say they are similar i think i will buy these sauconys.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

For me, it’s more that the timing of the spring back that is noticeably different.

I just picked up a pair at a very good deal. Cannot wait to take them out and try them.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Have fun!

can you please review the vj sarva studded shoes and compare them to other brands with studded shoes. needed up north when the streets and gravel roads get icy and not much to find about them on youtube. mainly interested in vj sarva ace, icehero and dvil/devil these have unebelevable studs that withstand everything but also interested to see how they measure up to solomon, la sportiva, hoka etc.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I do not currently have plans to review that shoe

@Berberien

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi arent you interested in finding better winter shoes?

Do you have any reviews with spikes? Specifically the On cloudspike and saucony cheetah?

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I don't run often in spikes

This has not arrived in the philippines the saucony endorphin elite, triumph 21, kinvara pro. Then we are waiting on Endorphin speed and pro 4 which might get released on march 2024

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

It’s curious how different regions pick up or don’t pick up certain models. If there is something that you want that isn’t coming to your country, you should make sure to let your local run specialty know. That’s how demand information trickles back up to the regional buyers

@chinitopogi7511

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi actually we could raise complains but at the end of the day its business. A work around would be buy them outside the country but no timeline on when it gets delivered. I already reached out via linkedin to a product specialist of saucony US, but ignored. There's a possibility that the triumph 21 and 4th version of speed and pro would arrive but again no timeline. Most popular brand that are known are adidas, asics, nike. If saucony does not plan to have a retail store or exclusive store in Manila Philippines, we might focus on buying brands from those 3 competitors.

the only supershoe with real carbon I have is the og prime x I knicked on stockx for 130 euros, its good for the biweekly or monthly more ambitious excursion and should last years this way. I dont need supershoes as slowest man alive

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

It’s a great time to be a runner. So many options for so many runners

Nobody makes me bleed my own blood, Saucony! 🤣

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Well, I guess Saucony makes me bleed my own blood. As well as others. Here’s the list: 1. Nike Vaporfly 4% Flyknit 2. Adidas Terrex Agravic Ultra Trail 3. Saucony Endorphin Elite

vapor/meta seen like a better option

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

My favorite racing shoe is the metaspeed sky plus, but I think we’ve reached the point where it’s hard to declare any one shoe as best. Rather, it’s more that this sub-segment of people will declare the Endorphin Elite as best, then another segment will love the Metaspeed, and others may still may prefer the Adios Pro 3. And none of them might be incorrect.

What did you think of the Insta360 ACE PRO?

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I have ordered one. It hasn't arrived yet

Don't you find it "too firm" and "too elite" as a lot (if not most) of reviewers have been describing it earlier this year? From the review you seem to be okay with its density and find it comfortable for more than 10k.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Is it “too firm”? No. Am I ok with the density? Yes. I just ranked this shoe as best supershoe of 2023

My inner sole is gone. No etching at all left. Granted I have 400 miles in these shoes.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

That’s a lot of miles in a race shoe

Related; bought my Endorphin Edge trail shoes last May with my tax refund & 250 mi. later, nicely broken in

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Nice

Stabilnost in odzivnost Elite je boljša...vsaj na 18 km treningu.

The rocker design on some of the super shoes might be too aggressive causing issues with certain runners.

@geert574

8 ай бұрын

try skechers ride 11 top shoe, just not in any wet conditions

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I suppose I can’t disagree with that, although I’m not sure if you’re implying that that applies here or not

I can’t believe no one’s commented on the ‘Dodgeball’ reference yet 😂

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

A couple people have

lol felt like a car pulling into a handicap parking spot when I heard the price tag. Oops wrong spot see ya later 275 lol nope

Pass for me

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

It’s a great time to be a runner. So many different options to suit a variety of preferences and needs. The flip side is that some shoes just aren’t for you. But that’s ok!

“Nobody makes me bleed my own blood”

Why didn't you wash out the blood stain? hahahah. I have 100km in these shoes so far. The exposed foam is so annoying from a design standpoint and durability standpoint. Especially for how stupid expensive they are. But I find them so comfortable for my foot. Lots of room without feeling sloppy. They will be my marathon shoe in Dec. I've taken them out for some easy long runs and also faster pace during this training block. They do it all well for me. They make my running feel more smooth and efficient and I run faster with less effort. But I'm saving them just for races and faster speed work after this initial 100km so they last longer.

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

I don’t wash my shoes

when the road runner would wear a shoe … it would be the endorphin elite

161km is not enough

@kofuzi

Ай бұрын

it's never enough

first!

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

Yo!

its too bad these things are pretty much sold out everywhere...

@kofuzi

8 ай бұрын

A lot of racing shoes tend to sell out ahead of big marathons, such as CIM which is this weekend and Dallas which I think is the following weekend

@tinscars3701

8 ай бұрын

@@kofuzi Makes sense. Honolulu is the same weekend as Dallas.