SAP S4HANA: Full Process Down Payments for Purchase Orders (Transaction ME2DP & F-47 & F-48 & F-44)

How to Post a Down Payment Request and a Down Payment with reference to a Purchase Order and clear the down payment against an invoice in SAP S4HANA / ECC
Video chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:15 Process Explanation
00:53 Down payment details in PO
02:13 Down Payments Monitor (ME2DP)
04:37 Manual Down Payment Request (F-47)
06:38 Convert Request to Down Payment (F-48)
09:53 Supplier Invoice (MIRO)
10:30 Clear Down Payment against Invoice (F-44)
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  • @Ramyengisetty1
    @Ramyengisetty13 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge through your channel, I hope lots of people are benefited from this. I am one of them.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome Ram

  • @pavalachandranchandran584
    @pavalachandranchandran5842 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, I am a great follower of your videos on SAP. Your explanations are awesome and easy to follow. Keep up of your good work.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a ton

  • @Jishnu012
    @Jishnu0123 жыл бұрын

    The videos are very professional. The content is also great. Simply superb!

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @maricaraurora
    @maricaraurora3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this informative video. I understand now how F-44 works.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! let me know if you have any questions

  • @Muichiro90
    @Muichiro903 жыл бұрын

    Awesome so valuable information for a SAP FICO consultant. 🙏

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure

  • @godagadoreviews1719
    @godagadoreviews1719 Жыл бұрын

    barakallah fiik abdullah, very neat explanation, please keep the good work :)

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @zbrkabrkic
    @zbrkabrkic2 жыл бұрын

    Good job! Just as a note you can also clear items in MIRO directly using button "Down payment clearing".

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Great addition

  • @learntoadjust7352
    @learntoadjust73523 жыл бұрын

    love the way you explain

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @meeraupadhyay6501
    @meeraupadhyay65013 жыл бұрын

    Thnx.,.i was knowing only from FI side..,not with purchase order.... 👍

  • @T.A.Sathyanarayanan
    @T.A.Sathyanarayanan3 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 ай бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @madjidmadjid4896
    @madjidmadjid48963 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your effort

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's my pleasure

  • @SanjayKumar-he1rv
    @SanjayKumar-he1rv3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot sir

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most welcome

  • @MrHuangjia
    @MrHuangjia Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome

  • @jaydeepmadye6830
    @jaydeepmadye6830 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you the detailed video on down payment. Can you please advise how overpayment can be avoided in this type as final invoice gets process with total amount as GR is available by auto process.

  • @duongphan2240
    @duongphan22402 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing, Abdullah Galal. May I know that can we default Down payment percent or amount in PO based on BP?

  • @vasudevan2891
    @vasudevan28913 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanx

  • @rajkumarm7921
    @rajkumarm7921 Жыл бұрын

    Good explanation. How to deduct tds while making down payment

  • @aleksandrabizjak9780
    @aleksandrabizjak9780 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, thanks for the video. I am from a Purchasing not from finance. Do you have any experience or recommendation, when users want to use dowpayment on a header level of a PO ?

  • @ebraammagdyharoun577
    @ebraammagdyharoun5773 ай бұрын

    Hi, Abd Alla. Thank you for the useful information. Would you kindly suggest a fiori report app that demonstrate POs vs down payments?

  • @test4415
    @test44153 жыл бұрын

    informative.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @vickyhere0404
    @vickyhere04043 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah Galal,. Your sessions are really nice and informative, will you please do some videos on COPA-

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will try my best

  • @rayzor07
    @rayzor072 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. For the end user sake, I would have shown how to clear the Down payment immediately while entering the Invoice on MIRO as it has the option to do so. If it is wasn't for your video, I would have struggled quite a bit with this as I have to propose this solution to the client as they are constantly being requested for down payments/ deposits by Suppliers.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help, and thank you for the suggestion

  • @chandra46
    @chandra462 жыл бұрын

    Can you also make a session on how input tax will be calculated on the down payment.

  • @kenyonphua9185
    @kenyonphua91853 жыл бұрын

    Hey Abdullah Galal, thanks for the information. Personally, i liked your videos and explanation the most amongst all other SAP tutorial vids! I do have some questions, i hope you can help to clarify. 1. what about prepayments? in cases where 100% of the purchase order value has to be paid upfront (eg. magazine subscription where you pay for a year and they will only deliver every month) - do we use the down payment process you showed? (if i am not wrong, from what i understood, down payment and prepayment are the same in SAP terms) - if yes, do we create an invoice as well? (since the supplier will send one for the inital payment) - how do we clear an invoice against a 100% posted down payment? --> we can't make a $0 payment to clear it with the post down payment - since prepayment means that goods/service has not been delivered, how do I balance it out with GR when it's completed (eg. when the magazine gets delivered every month) 2. An invoice comes in with a 30%down payment, do we need to create an invoice for that? or does creating a down payment, technically already means it's an 'invoice'? Thanks in advance, really hope you could help me!

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kenyon! >Prepayment and Down payment can be different in SAP, the difference is whether you want the posting to go as a debit to a down payment account or as a debit to the normal vendor recon account, based on this the process will change We can post the IR before the GR, so you will create an invoice and send it to the supplier then get the payment, but in this case this is not considered as a down payment, since a down payment is payment we receive before the invoice There's a vendor clearing transaction where you can select the lines and clear them together without posting a payment (F-44) You create the invoice for the full amount and specify in the payment term what you want

  • @moazzamca1
    @moazzamca13 жыл бұрын

    Great job bro, very good explanation. Just a suggestion, at times users ask to also include sales taxes in the down payment amount. In your example it appears to be 0%. If you can make a video also covering sales tax that would be helpful.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Intead of using the V0 Tax code (0%) use another one, the process is the same. I also have a separate video for VAT process and configuration

  • @moazzamca1

    @moazzamca1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal i believe that also requires some additional FI config. Simply using an existing tax code will not apply taxes to DP. Thanks

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@moazzamca1 you're right! That's a country specific requirement since normally taxes are on invoices but some countries require that down payments are also subject to tax. Will create a poll and see how many people are interested by this topic

  • @prabhakararao8908
    @prabhakararao89083 жыл бұрын

    Down payment is good topic, 💮

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree, do you have any points I didn't explain yet?

  • @prabhakararao8908

    @prabhakararao8908

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal DP option should be visible when Payment Term for vendor is entered in the PO ,then DP advance payment will have advantage ,like example payment term with advance 25,% Like wise.

  • @uj313
    @uj313 Жыл бұрын

    Can you please tell me how to link this process with the AUC settlement via internal order?

  • @manjunathg854
    @manjunathg8543 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your helpful video Could you please make any video on this topic please"Logistics invoice revaluation process" Or kindly share any link to read the overview Thanks

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is related to ERS right? googled it now, it looks interesting help.sap.com/erp_hcm_ias2_2014_03/helpdata/en/79/71b6531de6b64ce10000000a174cb4/frameset.htm

  • @christosmavrikos4101
    @christosmavrikos41013 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah Galal, How has to be proceeded in case we want to make Down Payment request on the whole PO with two or three lines?

  • @arijitbohra7803
    @arijitbohra7803 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah - Thanks for the amazing videos. I just enrolled into the Elite membership. How can I access decks / documents available as part of this membership? Thanks.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Arijit, Welcome onboard! Please send an email to agelitemembers@gmail.com

  • @shalevsofair5274
    @shalevsofair5274 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, first of all, great video!. I was trying to use tcode f-47 but I have noticed to you are only able to enter downpayment request on PO line item level, not PO header. How to proceed with downpayment request if you wish to allocated the cost to PO Header?

  • @khaledalboom2188

    @khaledalboom2188

    Жыл бұрын

    open any purchase order - Header level - payment processing - DP category - Mandatory Down payment

  • @user-es2en3nj4j
    @user-es2en3nj4j2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. It's very useful for me to understand. Is there any video for Down Payments for Sales Order?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not yet! good idea

  • @videorao

    @videorao

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal Pls share if we already have a video on downpayment for Sales Order.

  • @bilelamri5273
    @bilelamri5273 Жыл бұрын

    Hi sir, thank you somuch for the effort you make When i made a manual down payment request against the purchasing document in F-47 i was able to post the DP request after successfully, but when i made a DP request using ME2DP transactions, when i want to post thr DP request the system can not find it and shows this message "No suitable down payment requests exist" do you have an idea on this issue please sir.

  • @mateocano7548
    @mateocano7548 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, is there any workflow to this process? (Down payments) Thanks in advance!

  • @ayhobbyist
    @ayhobbyist3 жыл бұрын

    great video would you please do the same process in fiori ?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will do my best, it shouldn't be hard

  • @ayhobbyist

    @ayhobbyist

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal another question please, how can I prevent any DP without having a prior DP condition in PO ? in other words, the AP accountant should not be able to issue a DP to a vendor without a valid PO with DP info

  • @munisekhar2566
    @munisekhar256611 ай бұрын

    how to apply TDS in advance payment F-48 and also please confirm, do i need to select TDS again while booking invoice in MIRO.

  • @777hviktor
    @777hviktor Жыл бұрын

    Dear Abdullah, I'd have a question. Why don't you take the down payment object with ME2DP transaction without F-48? Thank you for your answer.

  • @Ramyengisetty1
    @Ramyengisetty13 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdulla, this is a great presentation about the Vendor down the payment process. It should have been more transparent if you show the down payment monitor transaction ME2DP to see the status changing for each step. When you clear the downpayment how the ME2DP screen looks like.?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ram, thank you. I can't make long videos, the average watch time for my videos is 3.5 minutes 😐 so I only give the main points in my videos that would help you to test the process and see the rest of the details

  • @Ramyengisetty1

    @Ramyengisetty1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal I fully understand, thank you for your quick reply. Keep doing the videos, you are doing an awesome job. All the Best. - Ram

  • @bhargavchinna2304
    @bhargavchinna23043 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir First of all thanks for the video! Can you please upload video related to universal allocation in s/4 hana finance and cost center splitting structure.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I explained the cost center splitting structure in the product costing playlist, did u check it?

  • @bhargavchinna2304

    @bhargavchinna2304

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal Yes just now I have watched the video. Nice video and thank you sir.

  • @sameeranandtorvi
    @sameeranandtorvi2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Abdullah. You mentioned when we do down payment to the vendor, it's Debit Vendor A/C and Credit Bank A/C. Shouldn't it be reverse?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, vendors are accounts payables. when we post a vendor invoice, the vendor is credit. when we post a vendor payment, the vendor is debit

  • @sameeranandtorvi

    @sameeranandtorvi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal my bad. Liabilities will be debited when reduced.

  • @devdb6194
    @devdb61942 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for the explanation but i have one question does the down payment or the down payment request appears in the account statement? let us say i want to send customer statement i searched your channel for such situation but could not find anything about it would you elaborate more on customer statement and down payment please

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, you can show them or hide them! ..normally in the statement you can choose to either show or hide special GL transactions

  • @lucreziab.2047
    @lucreziab.20473 жыл бұрын

    Dear Abdullah, Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Could you please show how to post a down payment and clear it with F-53,, with SAP 3, if possible .... Many thanks in advance from an absolute beginner

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lucrezia, in f-53 below the vendor number you have to mention the SGL indicator of down payment ( same as f-44 in this video) then you can select the down payment and the invoice

  • @markuswright1349
    @markuswright13493 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah Galal I know this is not related to this video but can you help me understand as to why SAP has given a quantity field in MIRO? I am trying to understand the impact of this. Lets take this example I make a PO for quantity 10 and price 10 so total PO value 100. Post which i make a GRN (MIGO) for quantity 10 Now when i punch the invoice (MIRO) for price 100 but quantity 15. Now system gives me a warning that quantity exceeded GRN quantity, however if i save this what will happen will my inventory go up by 5 ? Just want to understand this. Thank you

  • @viralvaishnav451
    @viralvaishnav4512 ай бұрын

    What to do if we have multiple lines in PO and also TDS applicable during the payment.. TDSG is applicable in India...

  • @kiki21370
    @kiki2137011 ай бұрын

    Hi! Is it possible to have several down payments on the same PO item? i.e. 20% on 01/01, 40% on 01/06….

  • @ravikrishnad740
    @ravikrishnad7403 жыл бұрын

    F-47 is allowing DP with out PO reference - any specific reason - can we make this mandatory

  • @monikasharma2200
    @monikasharma2200 Жыл бұрын

    In case we have deducted wht on the advance payment how will we settle it

  • @Raymss1
    @Raymss12 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, thank you for the Video, can you explain/do a video on how to process make dated cheque payments ( I guess with F-40),lets say make a rent payment with 4 PD Cheques, how to make the entry in SAP, please assist

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    What I do is use special GL transactions (Noted Items) to record the PDC which has no financial impact, when the due date of the check arrives, we can either created a manual incoming payment entry or using the automatic payment program On the channel there are videos explaining with a demo what are special GL transactions and also the automatic payment program for vendors/customers

  • @christosmavrikos4101
    @christosmavrikos41013 жыл бұрын

    The video was very helpful, but in my sap version i do not have the field Dp Category. Do you know why? Also could you make a new a video and show us the process with factoring invoices? Thank you in advance

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have to activate the business function LOG_MMFI_P2P

  • @christosmavrikos4101

    @christosmavrikos4101

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will be very useful if you create a video, to present us the factoring process

  • @haridasansapmm254
    @haridasansapmm2542 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sir, Please let me know the Fiori app for creation of down payment request

  • @nayaksatyajit214
    @nayaksatyajit214 Жыл бұрын

    I need to know That how many times we make down payment request through ME2DP ON SAME Purchade order number ????

  • @elmoudenhajar2651
    @elmoudenhajar26513 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this interesting video. Could you please make a video about stock determination in MM ?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    check this playlist kzread.info/head/PL8CXU2O8dFHa_1J68MvjmBKdKHax34T3K

  • @anuzgoel
    @anuzgoel Жыл бұрын

    Can you show the same process with Fiori App

  • @user-zj3bt7oh3h
    @user-zj3bt7oh3h Жыл бұрын

    Hi Down payment request done thru F-47 but these detail not update in po history.. pls advise if anything need to be config

  • @notyourbusiness3486
    @notyourbusiness3486 Жыл бұрын

    How does the down payment get made to the Vendor?

  • @christosmavrikos4101
    @christosmavrikos41013 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abdullah, Regarding Down Payment monitor via transaction ME2DP, we would like to clarify in addition: 1.There is an indicator for the first two phases of the process - red color has to show that as per a specific PO, there is a Down payment marked / with transactions PO(ME21N) or (ME22N) / and this turns to green when the Down Payment Request is made. Is it possible also to have some indicators for the next phases in order to make selections - after approval, after execution of payment, when the whole amount of the PO has been paid. Or the information is available only in PO History? 2.PO with multiple Down Payments Request for example 100T Scrap- what is the option for monitoring via the transaction of all Down payments which are created with their DP%, DP Due Date and Dwn Payment Amount, marker when the whole amount as per the PO is cleared. Please clarify the columns - DwnPaytAmt, TotalDPs, Total DPR 3.In case of PO with more than one line when we create Down Payment Request on header level of the PO then in FBL1N the Down Payment and the payment also are shown on several rows. This is possible to create difficulties when we clear the invoice with the payment. What is the practice in this case? Thank you in advance.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Christos, I checked your question a lot and they are really great, personally, I haven't gone this deep into this transaction so answering these questions would require some research and testing which I provide only to clients. I would suggest you test some cases and see how this will impact the transaction and also read the SAP help page for this transaction help.sap.com/viewer/967e1c2a6a8c4183b7e07d28e7574445/6.17.17/en-US/167eb65334e6b54ce10000000a174cb4.html

  • @misohorny88
    @misohorny883 жыл бұрын

    In our 1809 Best practice version I don't see the DP Category under invoice tab in transaction ME23N - do you know why?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have to activate business function LOG_MMFI_P2P in SFW5

  • @dearloop1513
    @dearloop151311 ай бұрын

    What if i hsve 100% down payment with tax code other than v0

  • @nagavemala453
    @nagavemala4532 жыл бұрын

    In my sap S4 hana server screen . Iam unable to suggest .

  • @pink4268
    @pink42687 ай бұрын

    Hi, just want to know how can we incorporate withholding tax in down payment request if it's possible

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    7 ай бұрын

    Does that help ? answers.sap.com/questions/5722019/withholding-tax-on-down-payment.html

  • @MohamadAli-ru7nm
    @MohamadAli-ru7nm2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Please show down payment for SD as well.

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    I shared a post on LinkedIn explaining the full process of SD down payment , will see if I can make a video

  • @poonamcreation9265
    @poonamcreation92652 жыл бұрын

    Can we edit like changes in amount present document invoice which we create in Fb60

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    You want to change the amount in a document already posted by FB60?

  • @shahbaazkhan2883
    @shahbaazkhan28832 жыл бұрын

    Can we create P.O with withholding tax in condition

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Check this answers.sap.com/questions/2446986/withholding-tax-on-po.html

  • @sumitgupta9692
    @sumitgupta96922 жыл бұрын

    we have give the advance to vendor 100rs and create a invoice 100 + 20rs tax after see the ledger in fbl1n 100 is open item.but at the knockoff time in tcode f-44 show 120 rs. Sir please give me some solution

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Taxes are paid to the vendors. if invoice is for 100 + 20 taxes, then you have to pay 120 to the vendor

  • @zarchekyaw254
    @zarchekyaw2542 жыл бұрын

    How can I know for down payment request list for reporting as planning for accounting team?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't really understand the question

  • @zarchekyaw254

    @zarchekyaw254

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal My question is the reporting for down payment is down payment monitoring for PO only will view by finance and procurement team needs to see for planning for the payement?

  • @abubakarkarimi7529
    @abubakarkarimi7529 Жыл бұрын

    Sir please tell me how to reverse down payment request

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    Жыл бұрын

    Google it! answers.sap.com/questions/3578379/reverse-delete-downpayment-request-through-f-47.html

  • @abhijitmunishwar6472
    @abhijitmunishwar64723 жыл бұрын

    dear sir please provide sap mm consultant content # FAN#

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Abhijit, did you check the video I shared on how to get the certification questions? you can find it on the channel

  • @SanjayKumar-he1rv
    @SanjayKumar-he1rv3 жыл бұрын

    Can I join you for regular coaching for FI

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Follow the videos and let me know if you have questions

  • @sudheeshs1999
    @sudheeshs1999 Жыл бұрын

    Can we block GR if down payment is not done

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    Жыл бұрын

    So your requirement is that if the vendor sends us the items, our warehouse can't post them because we didn't pay a down payment 🤔 That's a valid requirement for sales that we can't issue the products till the customer pays a down payment ...but not for purchases

  • @praveenmakhija_0001
    @praveenmakhija_00013 жыл бұрын

    is it work against assets PO?

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, try it!

  • @ahmaaaad506
    @ahmaaaad5063 жыл бұрын

    How we close the downpayment

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    When you clear it in F-44 it's closed

  • @ahmaaaad506

    @ahmaaaad506

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AbdullahGalal thank you, i did it today at my work : ) thanks a lot, We facing some issue with cleared items There are are reversed items and cleared items that's cleared with same clearing payment document

  • @AbdullahGalal

    @AbdullahGalal

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ahmaaaad506 yeah clearing can be annoying sometimes 🤦🏻‍♂️