This is basically just a Tudor GMT version 2 where Tudor actually listened to what customers want

@paulzammit2864

Жыл бұрын

For this reason alone, worth buying the SM!

@anonymoususer6683

Жыл бұрын

​@@paulzammit2864😂

San Martin are Best Value for the money watches on the Market. Some people need high end name brands. Most of us just want high quality watches. Thanks for the review. Excellent channel!

Mine arrived last week. An excellent watch, super comfortable and excellent quality overall. I also own a GMT master 2. which I paid 6k for 4 years ago. I can feel the quality difference in the strap, but its minor. The dial on the SM is really well done. Lume on the SM is better then the rolex by far. The size is also better than the GMT. You have to hand it to SM on this one. Its a killer watch for the money.

It is cool that Rob finds these watches that are great value and shines a light on these unseen treasures.

@ralphus555

Жыл бұрын

Unseen? San Martin watches are all over KZread.

I’m used to wearing Blancpain, Tudor and Omega, and just bought a San Martin BB58 style watch. I was shocked how good the quality was for the money. It’s a great beater watch.

Have to admit with microbrands and homage watches, they address many wants and gripes the big brands don't. In this case for yeara since the original BB Pepsi GMT was first launched, pretty much at it's debut, fans wanted a BB58 size Pepsi GMT at 39mm, .make it not thick nor thick looking, ditch the faux rivets and SM did it... and, all while drastically being way less expensive. The only they could do better to really make it even better is to use the Miyota 9075. Sure the price will go up, but, I think it would still be worth it just to get the jumping hour for convenience whole traveling if not those days which you have to fall back or spring forward.

@SBAK4444

Жыл бұрын

Definately agree

I've found San Martin watches to be quite nice on their own merits, homage designs aside. I have a San Martin SN008-G (BB58 clone) and it's one of my favorite watches. Plus, it has a nicer bracelet than other watches that I paid far more money for.

@jackiemoon_lms

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling it a clone haha

I picked up the SN0112 GMT a couple weeks ago and it's the only watch I've been wearing. So many great things to say about this watch. San Martin is killing it. Good review, Rob. Keep it up.

The quality and finish San Martin offer at their price is EXTREMELY hard to match anywhere else. They're definitely up there with the BIG BRANDS now, and in many ways are BETTER than the competition.

I’m with you Rob. I bought their original design the SN036, it so nice I can’t believe how nicely finished they are. The hype is real on some of their models. Like your style, to bad we’re not in the same state. Earned a sub as well!

I think San Martin is a great option to “try out” a more expensive watch, the only thing that changes is the movement and the company name on the dial. For less than the cost of tax on the tudors you can wear it and see if there isn’t any fatigue.

beautiful but San Martin should reduce the distance between lug to lug to a maximum of 47mm so everybody can wear. them

Just got this model a few days ago its a ridiculously good watch for price point. So wearable and the perfect weight on the wrist. No brainer for a worry free daily wearer. Its surprisingly keeping better time than my seiko sumo with the 6R35 movement. They must regulate the movements or just luck of the draw.

It is such a beautiful watch and it looks very classy!

Wow, this looks like a Tudor. I am very impressed with this watch.

I just received the white/champagne GMT model two days ago. I had the Tudor Pepsi GMT for 2 years but sold it due to it being too larger diameter. I bought the new 39mm Pro GMT which fits much better but I love a Pepsi bezel. The SM is fantastic value for money and whilst it’s not a ‘traveller GMT’ it’s proportions suit me perfectly. However, the hand alignment and date flip timing were awful. I have reset them and now they are perfect but I found out why the bezel did not align perfectly on mine; the movement is held in place with a spring washer which is clamped by the caseback. On giving the caseback a final tighten the movement slightly rotates, turning the markers slightly anti-clockwise away from the bezel position. As I won’t be swimming the watch I have left the caseback hand tight so the bezel aligns with the markers. If I wanted to have the caseback 100% tight then I would have to reset the bezel insert position. Still, it’s a great watch for the money but QC could be a little better

I bought a few SM watches and love them all including their Deep Sea homage which has a mother of pearl gradient dial that needs to be seen in person to fully appreciate.

Both of my San Martins are amazing and may have to add this a third!

No, it's not crazy. San Martin watches are really that good. It's not just that they're very affordable. The specs and build quality pretty much blow every other non Chinese made watch out of the water. Yes they are homage watches with very little to no originality but so is everyone else. Plus they are catering to what everyone wants and they do a fantastic job at it. Better than everyone else.

Careful! “You could do a lot worse” is actually Pagani Design’s motto.

such a nice watch. I have a pepsi bezel GMT already....but that matte bezel looks so good, I may need to pick one up anyway. thanks for sharing your thoughts, Rob!

I have a couple and have had minor issues with QC. One lug on my sn004g retro diver is marginally out of square resulting in tiny gap between the case and end link. The crown on my sub homage wouldn't engage properly so I had it replaced but the new one occasionally does the same thing. Also the cyclops is ever so slightly off centre as is the date wheel aperture. I've heard SMs after sales service is a bit hit and miss but I bought from a UK seller so replacement was painless. Apart from that the overall quality and finish is very good for the money.

Got 2 tudors , and i just got the bb pro homage from san martin. Its mad because the smaller dimensions on the san martin make it a dream to wear. I actually prefer it to my tudor , in many ways , so for under £200 , its a unbelievable watch.

Nice review, Rob. Hard to find fault with SM watches in general

I have a San Martin grey dial 62MAS "homage" at a couple hundred GBP - I'm *SO* glad I didn't pay £1000+ for the Seiko SPB143. I'm told the SM wears better too. It's just +5sec per day too.

Great timing

Ironically the larger indices are going to equate to better lume- I have the Tudor and it’s got the smallest ones I have seen on a case size that big..San Martin has arguably improved on the original design just like the explorer II,although the Tudor movement smokes the seiko nh34 . Is it worth another $4k? It depends on who you are, and I prefer the 41mm case size.

I'm still wanting for the matt blue version of their Tudor snowflake sub ( SN006-G2) but with seiko movement.

Love this review

Fight it all you want. As a consumer, the SM is the bar nowadays. Seiko used to have that place.

This will be my 4° SM. 🔥🔥

I would buy the white dial black frames indicies and hands too - I would like this watch regardless as well

San Martin are great value for money. I have the bb pro homage great daily beater.

How lucky can one guy be , ta ta ra This is how I’ll feel wearing this beauty. Without breaking the bank .

Wow, Rob got deep there for a minute or two. Again, buy what you like. You don’t need to justify a damn thing to anyone but yourself. Everyone else can FO!

would love to see the san martin version of the ranger vs the rangmaster and the actual ranger

Hi mate, i would love to ask if this San Martin bb gmt has the same size as Cronos bb gmt?

Is there supposed to be a rubber O-ring visible on the crown?

Their build quality and finishing is absolutely untouched for the price, by a long mile. I just wish they had better original designs 😢

Tudor is a homage of vintage Rolex but they get a pass because they’re owned by Rolex. So San Martin is a homage of a homage-and I’m totally fine with that 😎! Not many people can afford or justify buying a 4or5 digit Rolex GMT.

I am not a fan of so called hommage watches, but San Martin is too good to be ignored. I have their Ranger rip-off and have to say that it’s well done. 🎉🍼🕐🍸🍸

It looks so good and the measurements are more favorable than the Tudor GMT. If Tudor could only pull that off. Ha.

I own a couple of these San Martin watches. My favourite is the 62mas homage/ copy what ever you want to call it. I own much more expensive watches then this watch but it’s my go to watch as I love it

@goldfools5445

Жыл бұрын

I also have this watch. When you hold it in your hand, you can’t believe it cost so little for so much quality.

🔥🔥🔥

I don't like the straight brushing on the lugs. circular/angled would look cooler. The watch is amazing though.

GMT is a useless complication to me but this San Martin is a looker (thanks Tudor)

I like the aluminum insert and wish we saw more matte aluminum and ceramic rather than glossy.

7:20 'would we like Tudor if they weren't tied to Rolex (...) it's a ridiculous question'. That question isn't ridiculous AT ALL: it's a fact people aren't just into watches because of aesthetics, design, and technology etc. : branding plays a huge part (just think about resale value alone).

Bizel is ceramic?

San Martin is much better than brands like Islander or other Frankenstein brands, at least you don't overpay and they do have Quality Control and since they make homage watches their designs are good.

@sinjinadams2862

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if I'd say they are better than Islander but they are cheaper. I think both brands are on par with each other. Islander sources their parts from China but the watches are assembled in the U.S. I think that gives them a slight leg up when it comes to quality control. Plus you are supporting jobs in the U.S. If that matters to you.

@chrispekel5709

Жыл бұрын

@@sinjinadams2862 depends, a good Chinese factory will do good QC

@aristotlejb82

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if you bought an Islander or just passing an opinion but I recently got one. And there is a lot of watch there for the money. Also, Islander has an identity which Marc is developing based on his knowledge and experience. Unique color profiles, better bands, and better quality control. Marc did a homage on Seiko watches which if you think about is primarily for watch nerds who still want a skx007 and then mod the hell out of that watch. And his watch doesn't look like skx007 from far off, it is just different enough to have its own identity.

I like the San Martin…. But not enough to get one. Because I actually really want the two tone version from Tudor. Great watch though!

@felix111

Жыл бұрын

I got the real from Tudor and returned it. It was way too thick at 15mm.

@yoyex2009

7 ай бұрын

You talking about gold and silver BB58? I was thinking on getting one

Awesome ! Rob, this one or Islander GMT ? Thanks !

@RandomRobReviews

Жыл бұрын

Tough one, hard to beat the price in the SM.

@berare777

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews thank you !👍

A lot of folks seem to complain that SM watches are sharp to the point of being uncomfortable. What did you find with this model?

@goldfools5445

Жыл бұрын

I have 7 SanMartin watches. The finishing is crisp. It’s people who don’t understand quality finishing say “sharp” The are very comfortable indeed.

@WatchRob

Жыл бұрын

@@goldfools5445 thanks for clarifying.

1,5sec per day! that's fuc..ing Amazing

Would that bracelet works on a BB58?

@ryan850r

Жыл бұрын

No

Make it chronometer certified & we can have a conversation 😂

Being a hommage aside, reason I won't get one is the China Post pays almost nothing to ship to you and is subsidized by the US Post as well EU, Canada and others.

@irishwatchenthusiast6647

Жыл бұрын

That is a bizarre reason - utterly unrelated to anything to do with the watch itself - not to buy a watch.

Great watch. Well built at a great price. But the direct clone homage is not for me. At least change the hands. The different dials add some interest from me. I think Tudor would stand alone without Rolex. They’ve got some heritage with their niche sport and adventure sponsorships. They’d have more credit without the link. Maybe then they could produce a more competitive product (with thinner movements 😅)

I'm ok with homage watches. I just wish they had a better logo. I would still like Tudor if it were not tied to Rolex.

My addiction feels very strong when I’m watching this channel

I love mine so much. Best G..damn GMT watch ever made since the Pussy Galore ref. 6542

killer. what's not to like

I can vouch for San Martin, and I will absolutely endorse that build wise they should be judged against Tudor. I can't personally vouch for Cronos, but (at least in pictures) they can make a true red Pepsi ceramic dial, while Rolex can't.

When the homages look considerably better than the original you have to think the original is pretty poor 🤦🏻‍♂️ Tudor really need to up their game and quality control 😬

There is a difference between homages and clones and these are straight up clones so much so that I would not be surprised if replica manufacturers would use these as their base to build replica watches. I personally try to stay away from such watches because from far away I may give an impression that I am wearing a tudor or a rolex when I am not. I wish they had done a few things to change the design, hands or indexes. Like one reviewer said that "he would not consider san martin a brand but a watch manufacturer as they lack any identity on their own". I just prefer my watches to have their own identity. There are so many watches out there in 300-500 range with a lot of originality and character which deserve a chance more than a clone in my opinion. If I want a Tudor, I will go buy a tudor not San Martin.

@RandomRobReviews

Жыл бұрын

You are dead wrong fyi. Literally nothing is exactly the same on this watch vs the Tudor it looks like. Clones and super clones often will be 1 to 1 to the extreme you could swap parts. Absolutely nothing on this could be swapped

@desireless4092

10 ай бұрын

Most likely the only sensible comment here and I agree with you. I also find it highly ironic and peak hypocrisy when same people praise San Martin's clones of the supposed watch or model "that is not worth it". Reeks of reverse snobism.

I love how San Martin make Seiko look like the overpriced, misaligned junk that they truly are.

interesting, id rather save up and buy a Tudor though

I don’t judge anyone else who would wear it but to me it’d be like getting an A on a paper I copied; I just would not feel good about it.

@chrispekel5709

Жыл бұрын

I guess it's ok if you eventually want the real thing

@irishwatchenthusiast6647

Жыл бұрын

I respect your position, but don't share your qualms - Rolex (and to a certain extent with their popular models, Tudor too) are overpriced and/or unobtainable. San Martín offer the style/look combined with good QC. I own 4 of them and they are my go-to choices 90% of the time. I also own one Rolex that I constantly think about selling as it is a safe- queen that I take out occasionally and baby when I wear it. Hardly the definition of enjoyment... San Martín, Pagani Design, Cronos etc are simply meeting demand at a price point that is attainable by most. They don't harm Rolex's bottom line, and they are not fakes - and to be brutally honest, almost no-one knows or cares enough to be worried about being 'fooled' by a homage.

This vs the steinhart gmt

@RandomRobReviews

Жыл бұрын

I pick this. It’s actually that good

@syr3472

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomRobReviews damnnn... I was looking at the NH34 gmt from San Martin and the batman from Steinhart but you got me thinking now

Watch snobbery at its finest!!

No question that the San Martin brand is a bargain for consumers. However, I've been unable to find any information whatsoever regarding the working conditions or whether child labor is involved in the brand's manufacture. And without some reassurance on those points I would avoid the brand.

@goldfools5445

Жыл бұрын

There is a factory tour on their website.

@S-Ltd1000

Жыл бұрын

Not that hard to find info on the company and I doubt kids would be turning out items of this quality anyway.

@goldfools5445

Жыл бұрын

@@S-Ltd1000 just virtue signaling me thinks.

@chrispekel5709

Жыл бұрын

Hahahah, they'll be made in a factory in a normal city that probably looks just like a factory in the west before it all went to China. Did you think they're made outside in wooden huts using kids kidnapped from local villages?

@chrispekel5709

Жыл бұрын

Surely you are kidding, kids can't make watches, this is precision work...I'm actually laughing

A lot of the time they are overpriced. I'm talking generally, not a certain model. The customer service is non existent. That model is £400 with import tax in the UK.

I prefer my Cronos watches to my San Martin watches, but all of them are better (quality and pricing) than their mainstream equivalents; Seiko, Rotary, Accurist etc. I have owned 4 Rolex models and my Cronos provide 95% of the feel/ownership experience at 1-2% of the Rolex price. I would NEVER buy a Rolex again EXCEPT as an investment.

I'm sure San Martin make very nice watches, but the logo is so foul 🤮

@chrispekel5709

Жыл бұрын

Never bothered me at all, I'm neutral on it. Like it better than the large script on some of their models which I think is boring

lol they just have the worst logo design, it looks like something a 6th grader doodles on their folder in school, iif they changed that and then maybe I'd consider it

I don’t know about you but I’m totally sick of saving up for great watches like the Tudor gmt an then any peasant can come along and purchase a complete replica for pennies😡 It’s the same with people smelling of cheap creed clones aaaarrrggghhhhh

@curtisbrown7991

Жыл бұрын

A Tudor is still a Tudor. I'm not sure a hommage can change that.

@adrianhargreaves2854

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely wish I didn’t feel like that but I do. I also think it’s a rip off and not a homage because the Tudor is available everywhere and doesn’t need fans to pay homage to it .

@adrianhargreaves2854

Жыл бұрын

For example, the invicta 58 or whatever number it is, is a great little watch. And I’m sure the San Martin watches are a great buy but I just want them to change bits . Put merc hands on them , do slightly different colours...stuff like that.

@lukegalloway2402

Жыл бұрын

Peasant!! Really....

@terrencestone3938

Жыл бұрын

Owning a Tudor doesn’t make you royalty. 😂😂 I own a Tudor bb58 and am a “peasant”

Very overrated brand.

@RandomRobReviews

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@rickhammel9541

8 ай бұрын

you obviously don't own one, unreal craftsmanship, especially for the money. Their cases and bracelets are unreal.

I get strong Black Bay vibes

Yeah yeah, all very nice, but how about taking it, at least, for a snorkelling trip in the sea? Maybe give it to a free diver who will take it down 10-20 m and then do the review again? Now, that would be helpful.