Samurai Armour VS Roman Armour

Legionary soldiers of the 1st and 2nd centuries used a variety of armour types. Some wore mail shirts, while others wore scale armour or lorica segmentata or laminated-strip cuirass. This last type was a complex piece of armour which in certain circumstances provided superior protection to the other types of Roman armour, mail armour (lorica hamata) and scale armour (lorica squamata).
In the 3rd century, the segmentata appears to have been dropped and troops are depicted wearing mail armour or scale, the standard armour of the 2nd-century auxilia.
Japanese armour is thought to have evolved from the armour used in ancient China and Korea. Cuirasses and helmets were manufactured in Japan as early as the 4th century.
Japanese armour was generally constructed from many small iron (tetsu) and/or leather (nerigawa) scales (kozane) and/or plates (ita-mono), connected to each other by rivets and macramé cords (odoshi) made from leather and/or braided silk, and/or chain armour (kusari). Noble families had silk cords made in specific patterns and colors of silk thread.
The armour was usually brightly lacquered to protect against the harsh Japanese climate.
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  • @noodlespoo
    @noodlespoo7 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why, but I love the sound of the word "scutum". Scutum scutum scutum.

  • @SNinjaQK

    @SNinjaQK

    7 жыл бұрын

    scrotum

  • @TorvusVae

    @TorvusVae

    7 жыл бұрын

    Latin always sounds so manly when spoken by english speakers and so smooth when spoken by Italians.

  • @Guiscardo777

    @Guiscardo777

    7 жыл бұрын

    it's obvious

  • @oiurehj

    @oiurehj

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well, the scrotum protects the jewerly, so it's a scutum itself.

  • @SNinjaQK

    @SNinjaQK

    7 жыл бұрын

    oiurehj they are the crown jewels

  • @ramonecasar3177
    @ramonecasar31777 жыл бұрын

    You should mix up your suits of armor into a 'perfect' set taking your favorite bits of gear from the various suits.

  • @questeye8167

    @questeye8167

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude im working on something like that just need someone to do a blueprint template of it but no money just to pay someone draw

  • @ColtDouglasMusic
    @ColtDouglasMusic7 жыл бұрын

    Damn it, Metatron. I was about to go to sleep when I got the notification you uploaded a new video... ...and a long one it seems. lol.

  • @forestelfranger

    @forestelfranger

    7 жыл бұрын

    SLeep is for the weak. :P

  • @YoungSavage

    @YoungSavage

    7 жыл бұрын

    one more video before i go to bed... *metatron uploads*

  • @traveel9409

    @traveel9409

    7 жыл бұрын

    Young Savage when metatron uploads: Ok maybe one more

  • @Ed_man_talking9

    @Ed_man_talking9

    7 жыл бұрын

    not bad for a set of amour centuries behind it's competitor.

  • @xinfinity8532

    @xinfinity8532

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Metatron do Plate armor vs Yoroi or Lorica segmentata vs Plate armor

  • @IanSumallo
    @IanSumallo7 жыл бұрын

    Let's have matpat watch this so he get some idea about samurai armor.

  • @BE02Raziel
    @BE02Raziel7 жыл бұрын

    Would you commit the biggest heresy by wearing both armors, combining the best of both worlds?

  • @OkurkaBinLadin

    @OkurkaBinLadin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Armor of emperor Aurelian looks very close to what you are describing.

  • @gso619
    @gso6197 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention one strength of your samurai armor - it offers amazing camouflage when the background's black.

  • @OhMyTwitch
    @OhMyTwitch7 жыл бұрын

    Love the information and demonstration, but a black background with the black armor? Not the best choice, Raff.

  • @metatronyt

    @metatronyt

    7 жыл бұрын

    I know, but that's what I have now unfortunately. When you see the white background is because I'm recording in a photography studio, which has a cost.

  • @OhMyTwitch

    @OhMyTwitch

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see. Have you perhaps considered investing in a green screen?

  • @davidbriggs264

    @davidbriggs264

    7 жыл бұрын

    What about taping or pinning some white paper on the background?

  • @metatronyt

    @metatronyt

    7 жыл бұрын

    I can try :)

  • @traveel9409

    @traveel9409

    7 жыл бұрын

    OhMyTwitch I second the green screen

  • @SlyBlu7
    @SlyBlu75 жыл бұрын

    1. Japanese did use full greaves, but it was uncommon. Forms of suneate have been found, which go the entire way around the back of the calf. Also, there was no uniforming in Japan, so to say that "only" cavalry wore heavy suneate, or infantry didn't wear them, would be inaccurate. Also, this is another Iron Mt. cop-out; you can kneel in full suneate, because again, the tageate were not always attached to the top of the shin, sometimes there was a small gap there for articulation, covered in with leather or chain. 2. Haidate. Iron Mt. cheaping out AGAIN. There should be a ring at the front center of your haidate. On good armors, that ring would fasten to a toggle inside the front of your do. That way, it doesn't fall down over your knees, regardless of how tightly it is tied. On lesser armors, samurai would thread a cord through that loop, pass one end under their left shoulder, over their right shoulder, and then tie it back to the other end in front; like half a pair of suspenders. 3. Do. Iron Mt again. You didn't have this armor made for you, they just size it like a tshirt. Traditional samurai armor has an overlap there between the front and back. I've seen other videos where people also tie the armor closed incorrectly. Done right, you should have a good bit of leverage to pull the armor in against any "pasta belly" you might have. Furthermore, there were other types of samurai armor in the same era which closed at the back, and were either intentionally left open (so that they could be adjusted sort of like a corset) or would lace shut. Those which were left slightly gapped would have a se-ita over the gap, made from the same plates as the armor, and large enough to fully cover the gap. Also, each lame of your do should also have an overlap of at least 1/2 inch. From what I've seen, the Iron Mt do seem to be made of a single plate, creased to look like lames. I'm not sure what gauge steel they're using, either. 4. Sode. Not sure how Iron Mt sode fasten, but lacing the sode through an agemaki at your back was purely aesthetic by the Sengoku period. The sode should fasten to the watagami of your do, in front and behind the shoulder. That should be enough to keep them in place. The early o-sode required lacing down through the agemaki, but you'll note that the agemaki-no-kan ring, and the sashimono back banner would be mutually exclusive. And they were. Most munition grade samurai armor did not have the agemaki at the back to lace your sode through. Moreover, there are 'bishamon' kote which have incorporated sode, allowing for winglets to be fastened or integrated with the watagami, to armor the shoulder from above and close that gap. 5. Interesting to note the scroll recommending samurai to not wear their menpo. From my experience, there seems to be some distinction between the menpo (as you're wearing, with the nose) and a hanbo (a much abbreviated menpo, essentially the cheek protection once the nose is removed). All face armors were collectively known as men-yoroi; so the menpo is men-yoroi, but not all men-yoroi are menpo. There was also the happuri/saburo, which go over the forehead and then down over the cheek, rather than under the chin. They also had padded, full-face, plates called somen, but phased them out by the 16th century, although they exploded in popularity in the pacifist Edo period for decorative costume armors. The reason I point this out as odd, is that the yodare-kake protecting the throat hangs from the menyoroi. The nodoawa only protects the lower throat and collar bone, but if you wanted to avoid ugly slashes, you needed a nodawa. The only other option (and far more rare) would be the eriwa or guruwa. The eriwa is like a western gorget, and the guruwa expands that protection to the back to the neck as well, by wrapping around. Some warriors certainly did NOT fight with a men-yoroi, but I wouldn't discard it and say that it doesn't belong on the armor; it serves a lot of purpose other than face protection; it keeps the helmet cords safe if tied properly, supports your throat armor, and hey; getting punched in the face sucks even when you're wearing a full frogmouth helm, protection against slashing is all I really expect ;) You did a good job otherwise. Samurai armor was highly specialized to the style of warfare in Japan. The legion armors were fantastic, as you pointed out, when used as part of the roman military machine. It's what people don't seem understand, so often when comparing armor - there needs to be an appreciation of where and how you're fighting, as much as just, "will this armor stop a particular blow."

  • @vasilijekamidzorac447
    @vasilijekamidzorac4477 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron can I ask you whats your opinion of Byzantine empire and are you going to discuss anything about them in future?

  • @deeeznuts3757

    @deeeznuts3757

    7 жыл бұрын

    Vasilije Kamidzorac yes this would be so interesting

  • @archive4058

    @archive4058

    7 жыл бұрын

    Also include their neighbors in the Sassanian Empire pls.

  • @imperator7828

    @imperator7828

    7 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see that too

  • @anonymous-zk3mi

    @anonymous-zk3mi

    7 жыл бұрын

    Byzantine empire = Roman empire (of the VI century AD)

  • @xinfinity8532

    @xinfinity8532

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Metatron why didn't you use the name Lorica segmentata and Yoroi in the tittle

  • @kayn9651
    @kayn96517 жыл бұрын

    I can't help not to notice the nipple rings on the Samurai armor's chestplate... it's so distracting >.>

  • @princessarlimel8461
    @princessarlimel84617 жыл бұрын

    Metatron, could you please make a video addressing why it was so common for centurions to opt for hamata over laminata, despite providing inferior protection?

  • @mcsimeonthefin
    @mcsimeonthefin7 жыл бұрын

    Why does the samurai armor have nipple handles?

  • @SlyBlu7

    @SlyBlu7

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because Iron Mountain isn't as authentic as you'd think, and that was something added to parade armors or retrofitted to classic armors, during the Edo Period. I can very, very near to buying Iron Mountain armor, and then started looking in to making my own; which led to about a full year of studying everything I could find about Japanese armors, and yeah - Iron Mountain is kinda trash. Good "budget" Samurai armor, but seriously, it has all the same problems as a 'nice' $200 mall-katana; it's not badly built, it's just inaccurate.

  • @klikssiikubra314

    @klikssiikubra314

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SlyBlu7 Do you have any further sources on that? I've heard of this opinion a few times and it really is disheartening.

  • @SlyBlu7

    @SlyBlu7

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@klikssiikubra314 No sources which would be easily sited. I've spent the last year or about, reading up on how samurai armor was constructed, in preparation for starting in on my own. I haven't heard anyone complaining about the Iron Mt stuff, in regards to it rusting, falling apart, ripping etc. I can't base my opinion on that. I also haven't bought a physical set for myself, because I'm not about to spend used-car-money on a set of armor that I know to be flawed; so I can only base my opinions on videos like these, where people unbox and review the armor, show how the armor is worn, or point out specific details. The shortest answer as to why I compare this armor to a "mall katana" comes as two parts: 1. This armor will never be properly fitted. You can't buy a business suit online, and expect it to fit right out of the bag. Even if you give them your exact measurements, taken by a professional tailor, you're going to need to take your suit BACK to that tailor and have alterations done. Armor is no different. If you watch LindyBeige's channel when he's getting his Western armor made, he is back and forth to the armorer to be measured, have the armor fitted, refitted, etc. Iron Mt simply can't offer that service and maintain their price-point. It's not so much a flaw on their end, as it is a flaw of the business model. Still, there are ways around that, but we'll get to that. 2. For anyone who really knows armor, there are obvious flaws and inaccuracies. If you take a $200 katana that you purchased off a 3am infomercial, to a museum curator, they're going to immediately spot it and call it out as a fake. This armor is the same. Whether it's details that simply don't match up, anachronisms, missing features and errors, or simply build-quality, there are things found in this armor that mark it out as simply "wrong". And let's face it; this is a company owned by a few white dudes, working out of China, producing Japanese armor. From what I've seen, I'm fairly certain that they're using stamped or die-cut steel; some of their cuirasses are almost definitely a single piece on the front, and another on the back, grooved to look like multiplate units. When they pad the shoulders for the Gashira+ quality armor, that's wrong as well; that is a "looks like" manchira, affixed to your armor; the Japanese never did that. If they want to be able to create a "one size fits all" armor, they could make a haramaki do which laces up the back like a corset. They can be made from metal lames, or even better, from kozane for maximum flexibility. Once laced shut, an armored plate hangs from the back to cover the gap. This would even allow them to sell prefab, optioned plates for either sashimono or agemaki backs. What you're getting with Iron Mt is very strongly leaned towards "munition grade" armor. It's sugake laced, it's running 5 or 6 kusazuri, solid color lacing throughout, they paint a mon on the chest, the bare-metal fukigaeshi and mabizashi, etc. Then, they add a bunch of details from higher quality suits of armor, like the menpo with a mustache, the datemono, and the agemaki knots on the back (but not the helmet) with ties for the sode. Combined, it's almost comical; marking out either an Edo "pretend samurai" or a poorer samurai trying to look like he's got more money than he has. When they put up Uesugi's armor and try to convince people that it's something that he'd have worn - they're simply wrong. The worst offender, actually, is their "Date Clan Armor." The Date have an armor style that is so distinct, that it is named for the blacksmith who created it, or for Sendai, the home town of Date Masamune. It's gorgeous armor, made of a 5-section Do, with 7 or more kusazuri, and instead of the large sode it uses kohire winglets jutting from the shoulder. It's sleek, it's minimal, and high-tech. Masamune paid to have his entire army outfitted with Sendai armor. They would not have worn something like the Iron Mt suit, or if they did, it would not have been "Date Clan armor". If you want to buy Iron Mt armor, I say go ahead. It's as close as you can get to "the real deal" without making it yourself or spending "new car money" to have one made in Japan. It'll fool 99.9% of people. I mostly jump on the inaccuracies when I see someone trying to pass it off as a replica armor, or when I see someone basing historical comparisons on it (like this video). Metatron acknowledges that his first Roman lorica was a poor quality repro, and he loves to bash on crap quality online armors; I don't see why he's blind to the fact that his Samurai armor isn't that different.

  • @klikssiikubra314

    @klikssiikubra314

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SlyBlu7 Thanks for the information. Do you happen to have any pictures comparing the real Date armor and the Iron Mt. ones?

  • @SlyBlu7

    @SlyBlu7

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@klikssiikubra314 - you can find pics of the Iron Mt 'Date' armor on their site or just googling it. As for the yukinoshita dou, they can be found by searching them. I'll include a link to one good picture. Orikasa T. when he was describing the armour discovered in the tomb of Date Masamune, says it was a 'black lacquered go-mai dou in the yukinoshita style. The takahimo cords are not running from the oshitsuke-no-ita but are knotted to the tips of the watagami. Such kind of construction comes strictly speaking under the term watagami-tesaki-tsuke. There are three holes for the lacing of the takahimo, all of the same diameter, as was common in olden times, and the upper two holes which lie parallel are equipped with shitadome." Further studies show that Masamune's personal armor was covered in leather and then lacquered, which was unusual (normally, lacquer was applied straight to the metal). It is possible that this leather had been tooled to have some kind of design on it, but hybrid layered armors like this, while unusual, were not unheard of. There is a really interesting theory among collectors, that the Date armory was sold some time during the meiji, and the armor contained therein was decorated and modified to suit more ornamental tastes. Many seem to have had the lacquer burnt off, and were then embossed with interesting motifs and designs. During the preceding Edo period, Myochin Muneo gained fame as a smith for modifying the yukinoshita design into what is called the uchidashi oshu do, and applying lots of these embossed scenes. The theory about the sale of the armory also ties in with the Ato-Mei daisho, also used by the Date. A picture linked below shows a restored, 3 section vertical, riveted, yukinoshita do. This is slightly uncommon, as the fronts of the yukinoshita were usually a single plate, sometimes with a slight peak down the center in the European style, to better defend against bullets. Typically, when you image search these armors, you might see them with fitted sode pauldrons. That's fine, and they sometimes were retrofitted with them or could be fitted with them by request, but the Date typically did NOT provide their troops with sode. The kohire winglets did well enough, and they frequently used "bishamon kote" which have heavily armored uppers, replacing the sode. What is notable about the Iron Mt version is that they are showing an okegawa do, without kohire; which is most certainly wrong. This particular armor linked, is not Masamune's personal armor, but rather, a munition-grade Date armor; what his lower ranking retainers would have worn. i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz238/estcrh/compactdou5.jpg

  • @christopherhershman6395
    @christopherhershman63957 жыл бұрын

    As always, a delightful discussion. Thank you so much my friend!

  • @CatholicismRules
    @CatholicismRules7 жыл бұрын

    "and the Romans wore a bag at their left side. Now, this bag is full of pommels, so that they could end their opponents rightly."

  • @jonathaneubanks9026
    @jonathaneubanks90267 жыл бұрын

    "lets keep this short."

  • @dias5456
    @dias54567 жыл бұрын

    great video again. One thing you could change is, when showing your samurai armor, the black backround isn't really good, its black on black and its hard to see the details.

  • @Szminsky
    @Szminsky7 жыл бұрын

    Very good video, Metatron. A tip for your next videos. Use a white (or another light in tone) background when showing dark objects - it is hard to make out the form and details (as with the Samurai armor). A light from the back-top would also highlight the contours.

  • @GameOHolicsGitTurntGud
    @GameOHolicsGitTurntGud7 жыл бұрын

    I would suggest next time maybe having a paler backdrop so viewers could distinguish the black objects better. if you don't have a suitable space for that, then I would suggest adding a hair-light to make the silhouette of the darker objects pop out from the background. good video btw. very educational!

  • @sameetdhaliwal6043
    @sameetdhaliwal60437 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron Can you make a video talking about Samurai battle formations and army structures. It would be very interesting to see!

  • @Megaman22xx
    @Megaman22xx7 жыл бұрын

    great video. next time could you use a different background, for the samurai armor. to have a better contrast.

  • @PrincessNobella
    @PrincessNobella7 жыл бұрын

    very informative and like to see the armor being worn but if you could sand further away from the camera so we can see it better and get a better view of how it fits and moves

  • @constpegasus
    @constpegasus7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't posted here for a while but this comparison is great. Keep these videos coming.

  • @Fightbreak
    @Fightbreak7 жыл бұрын

    great video, but next time try to use a different background when you show black armor. i never got to see it propperly up close and thats a shame because it looks so good.

  • @isaibreoganjunqueraalvarez3332
    @isaibreoganjunqueraalvarez33327 жыл бұрын

    At 8:58 it remind me several scenes in Asterix & Obelix (I think it was in Britain) where a soldier begin to skii when entering in the palace. Now I understand why. Top Thank you very much

  • @budahbaba7856
    @budahbaba78564 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I had never considered it before, but i love it how you brought up footwear. To this day i love Italian shoes, but i didn't realize they had such great footwear (by comparison to many other people) back then. What is on your feet is a game changer in a fight. And i am not even talking about kicking. I am just talking how you conduct your leg work -good shoes are a much bigger deal than we tend to give them credit for when we are considering our over-all outfit. That footwork and stance power can be the difference between life & death.

  • @toneysebits8458
    @toneysebits84587 жыл бұрын

    Love the comparison videos.

  • @jiriseidl4376
    @jiriseidl43767 жыл бұрын

    If I may suggest use a better lightning in the shot, I can hardly see anything from the samurai armor when its all black. Also, the camera only catches you from your belly upwards, I could barelly see the gladius. On the other hand, thank you for such a detailed video, I really feel like I learned something more today :-)

  • @mikeborsum2953
    @mikeborsum29535 жыл бұрын

    Love these vids. I've been wondering about late "full plate" of the European Knight vs Samurai armor. My best guess is that the Knight's armor tromps the holy hell out of the Samurai. Simply more coverage, and probably better steel. All that aside, the black background really obscures a lot of detail.

  • @Jukkaimaru
    @Jukkaimaru7 жыл бұрын

    I want to say I have actually seen some examples of fully-wrapping suneate before; usually the mail-and-splints type suneate. But I can't remember where I saw them.

  • @DrFoxyNation
    @DrFoxyNation7 жыл бұрын

    great video !!

  • @christopheresquire947
    @christopheresquire9477 жыл бұрын

    Hey Meta, I just wanted to say that I was having a bad morning. my lips are very dry, to the point of hurting when talking, and this happens every winter. so I was having a sh*t day. but then I saw your video and cheered right up. Thanks for it, and hope you have a nice day, Chris

  • @jordicaballolcarrasco1879
    @jordicaballolcarrasco18797 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a video of you talking about the almogavers and the catalan company. They were light infantry in an era dominated by the cavalry, but they still proved to be very effective.

  • @CarnelianUK
    @CarnelianUK7 жыл бұрын

    Good video, the only complaint is that some of the things you were doing with your belt and waist were out of shot, and it was hard to make out details of the samurai armour against the black background. I noticed that the mempo has plates extending down over the throat, almost like an articulated bevor on western armour, and without it your neck looked a little exposed. Did they have anything that they wore there in combat, like an aventail, or gorget to protect the throat?

  • @buggius
    @buggius7 жыл бұрын

    I love the video. just wondering about the background, black armour on black? it makes it kinda difficult to see some details

  • @emperorconstantine1.361
    @emperorconstantine1.3614 жыл бұрын

    Metatron, I am actually interested in the long video version of this, because it would be very unique in terms of full comparison against each stage of either Empire’s military progress.

  • @cocolahoff4292
    @cocolahoff42926 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely delighted by your channel. Where did you get your samurai armor? I’m thinking about acquiring a set, and I would be thankful for insight on where to look for a purchase. Thank you.

  • @samuraioj
    @samuraioj7 жыл бұрын

    I have been a regular viewer and a subscriber for 2 years now,great channel. I believe your video "Mail Armour Historical Evaluation" was the first i seen of your videos.

  • @battlebear7214
    @battlebear72147 жыл бұрын

    The background makes it hard to see detail at times. I'd recommend using a strong front light for other videos of this type in the future.

  • @MaxSluiman
    @MaxSluiman4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting topic put in an interesting way!

  • @maggidantonioreateguiarand9637
    @maggidantonioreateguiarand96377 жыл бұрын

    yeah man do it. I wouldn't mind an hour long of armor comparison video

  • @Rvoid
    @Rvoid7 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always Metatron! Just an idea, can you make a video on how to fight a certain armor type? I had short experience learning kenjutsu, and I was quite surprised that many swings and cuts in some kata, are actually meant to seek out the weakest part in the armor, the neck (usually a straight stab/tsuki), the armpits (kiriage), the wrists (kote), and even the stomach (do). Are there other techniques that were used against, say Roman and/or Knight armor? Obviously, using anti-armor weaponry is the answer, but what I want to know are the technique that exploits the inherent weaknesses in armors. Thanks in advance.

  • @Thebonesoftrees
    @Thebonesoftrees7 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic again.

  • @Balzi98

    @Balzi98

    7 жыл бұрын

    boobs just like your name

  • @KageRyuu6
    @KageRyuu67 жыл бұрын

    Theign Thrand tested those Cingulum and they provided a surprising amount of protection due to the brass studs, at least against slashes.

  • @bit0159
    @bit01597 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly, breathing was also an issue in medieval times with those steel helmets (Hounskull, Stechhelm, etc.). Knights even suffocated because of too litte air or because they vomited for some reason. Maybe the same happened with samurai wearing a mempō. And they were warned not to wear it for good reason.

  • @jellyjohnson7393
    @jellyjohnson73937 жыл бұрын

    Metatron, there in fact a video from a guy who tested those cingulem against cuts, it actually does prove pretty well for stopping a slash.

  • @reignorshine.
    @reignorshine.7 жыл бұрын

    good video but you're too close to the camera and I couldn't see alot of what you were referring to on the waist segments.

  • @lukeskrzypczynski9611
    @lukeskrzypczynski96117 жыл бұрын

    hey Metatron love these videos you are currently one of my favorite KZreadrs been watching all your stuff for quite some time I appreciate what you're doing and I enjoy your content

  • @metatronyt

    @metatronyt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, glad to hear that

  • @Blackfatrat
    @Blackfatrat7 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron Ave, as you know, when Italians speak it is a well-documented fact that you also speak with your hand, would one do this in Latin aswell or this purely an Italian thing?

  • @-Pathos-
    @-Pathos-7 жыл бұрын

    can u change the background colour kinda hard to see how badass u r in tht samurai armour with tht background colour :)

  • @dernwine
    @dernwine7 жыл бұрын

    Metatron you should do a series like this on various forms of Roman armour from the time of the Kings until the late Empire! :D

  • @XnecromungerX
    @XnecromungerX7 жыл бұрын

    Hey @Metatron did the Romans ever use a Woomera? aka Australian aboriginal / native american spear thrower like tool? they were used to send spears many times faster than whats possible normally.

  • @Hscaper
    @Hscaper7 жыл бұрын

    suggestion: time-lapse of putting different armor on and taking it off. the more complicated the armor the better. if you haven't already done this.

  • @TheCaniblcat
    @TheCaniblcat7 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see you do something on the various types of armor worn by Gladiators in Rome and explain the differences between them.

  • @davidnoser4263
    @davidnoser42637 жыл бұрын

    A little while ago ThegnThrand tested a Cingulum. It woked astonishingly well against cuts and slashes. When about testing armour and weapons really check out ThegnThand. Thank you Metatron. Great Channel.

  • @TorvusVae

    @TorvusVae

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thrand's replica was of questionable authenticity.

  • @VisualDima
    @VisualDima7 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron, next time use background with lighter color for samurai armour, please!

  • @beneteus3833
    @beneteus38337 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron the cingulum does provide a bit protection. go the ThegnThrand they tested one of those. and yes no protection form stabbing unless you get lucky and they hit one of metal peeces.

  • @seisette
    @seisette7 жыл бұрын

    I've got to say the blue set armour looks quite light but I bet it's no use against any sword. Also what's the meaning of that arcane inscription (NISSAN) on the front?

  • @goncaloparadinha635
    @goncaloparadinha6357 жыл бұрын

    could you talk about Aljubarrota battle? It's a battle of infantry vs cavalry in the late midle age. bow slings and piques vs heavy armor warriors

  • @Vala960
    @Vala9607 жыл бұрын

    Hey Metatron, I wasn't sure where to post this comment, because this is in relation to this video as well as an older video where you talk about knife fights, and wearing mail armor as a means of defense. I was wondering if you had any insight on which armor would be a better protection against a knife attack, between stainless steel dome-riveted Lorica Hamata like can be purchased from Kult of Athena, or Kikko Gane Dō like can be purchased from Iron Mountain Armory, assuming both were properly fitted and worn, and neither was visible to the attacker. Once again, thank you for your great and thought provoking content.

  • @artix548
    @artix5486 жыл бұрын

    Hey Metatron, I have a hypothetical battle for you: what if the Roman Empire invaded Japan or what if the Japanese invaded the Roman Empire. To make this battle a little more interesting, we'll take the guns and cannons away from the Jaoanese and/or set them at a period of time when Japanese war tech was more similar to Roman war tech.

  • @artix548

    @artix548

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also, depending on who wins, what pieces of armor, what weapons, and what tactics do you think would be adopted or rejected by the winner? What new auxillary units would the winner now have?

  • @Poldovico
    @Poldovico7 жыл бұрын

    If you had access to all the historical armoury and weaponry that you know of with the exception of ranged weapons, what would your dueling set look like?

  • @Encolpius79
    @Encolpius792 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video about what it would have been like if the Ancient Romans had existed in the medieval age? I know it sounds odd, but I was imagining what they could have done if they had had access to, e.g., muskets and gunpowder, and thought it would have been pretty cool!

  • @youtubevoice1050
    @youtubevoice10507 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or is Metatron pronouncing "but" as if imbued with the spirit of Matt Easton xD.

  • @valdoaluppi7424
    @valdoaluppi74247 жыл бұрын

    Some time ago i've read an article about the result of a group of experimental archeologist/historian (sorry but i don't remember who they were) arguing against the lorica segmentata as a widespread armour. As far as i recall they found the metallic plates too easy to lock to other soldiers in tight formation. their tesis was that the representation of segmentata refers to a cuir armour and that the metal one were only for sentinel and show off. Are these ideas of any value?

  • @farhankhan1866
    @farhankhan18667 жыл бұрын

    Can you please do a video on Damascus steel. Thank you

  • @valandil7454

    @valandil7454

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damascus steel has no practical differences to the crucible spring steel of the Spanish that the Romans favoured, or the Tamaghane steel of the Japanese, it's just another form of working the available materials of the time and geographic location

  • @GamesMasterxful
    @GamesMasterxful7 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron can you make a video about the Dacian Falx vs the Romans?

  • @antonius2244
    @antonius22447 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video about pretorian guard's equipment? Was it different from what legionaries worn?

  • @davidbriggs264
    @davidbriggs2647 жыл бұрын

    How do you spell Fascinating? Because that's exactly what this series has been so far, fascinating! Keep up the good work. Also, with regard to the Romans and greaves, don't forget that the Romans stole a lot from the Greeks, and much earlier Greek soldiers wore greaves, and so the Romans didn't issue, nor did they wear greaves because they felt they were unnecessary, not because they didn't have the technology.

  • @piotr4245
    @piotr42457 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron could you tell us if the Japanese used crossbows? I've never seen any depictions of samurai or ashigaru armed with such weapons. The Japanese had contact with China where crossbows were popular so they could adopt it but it seems they didn't and I wonder why.

  • @TheOhgodineedaname
    @TheOhgodineedaname7 жыл бұрын

    Could you tell us a thing or two about the riveted plate armor of the Japanese? When did it come into use and was it ever replaced by non-riveted plate?

  • @GCurl
    @GCurl7 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video about Caeser's Rhine bridge if you haven't already?

  • @valorwarrior7628
    @valorwarrior76287 жыл бұрын

    +Metatron, Is It POSSIBLE to pose a battoujutsu to a Roman Legionnaire or to a Spartan Phalanx?

  • @vanders4198
    @vanders41987 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on the Late Roman Army and Eastern Roman Empire just after the fall of the WRE.

  • @landsknecht1525
    @landsknecht15256 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see you do a comparison of 16th Century Samurai armor versus 16th Century Milanese armor.

  • @ryuuji991
    @ryuuji9917 жыл бұрын

    on one video you mention Polish hussars, are you going to do video about them soon? not typical armour and weapons they used, also tactics

  • @ryuuji991

    @ryuuji991

    7 жыл бұрын

    Love this song :D

  • @alexhulea2735
    @alexhulea27357 жыл бұрын

    if my historical knowledge is still accurate, the legions in the dacian wars did not wear the manica(don't know about other fronts). but because the dacian falx could cleave through limbs easily and split helmets with some ease, trajan started having his soldiers on the dacian front wear manica and reinforced their helmets.

  • @billyboy3404
    @billyboy34047 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video explaining the cuirass we see Julius Caesar wearing? Was this only a type of armour that the high ranking Romans would wear? Was it made of steel or leather? was it more expensive than regular Roman armour?

  • @LouisKing995

    @LouisKing995

    7 жыл бұрын

    billyboy3404 Do you mean like the muscle cuirass ? That was only worn by officers of sufficient rank. The muscled part was usually bronze, since that's easier to cast in a stylised manner, but underneath it would be steal plates like on the Lorca segmenta or steal mail. The muscled part was to project power and prestige and decoration, but the main protection was underneath it by imperial Roman times. Not that bronze is easy to penetrate anyway by the way. The muscled cuirass is taken directly from what Hellenic(Greek) generals would often wear. Though there's would not be as strong as the what the Roman generals wore.

  • @aussiebloke609

    @aussiebloke609

    7 жыл бұрын

    "Lorica Musculata" I think was the latin term. Definitely adapted from the Greek style. Interestingly, it appears that they may have been made of moulded leather at times, as well as the more typical bronze - presumably for those times when bronze may have been in short supply or too expensive, I would assume.

  • @LouisKing995

    @LouisKing995

    7 жыл бұрын

    aussiebloke609 The main difference, aside from the added protection underneath, the more detailed ornamentation and the just general refinement on the original Greek design, was that the Roman muscle cuirass didn't have the shoulder guards that the Greek one did, I'm not sure why, but the Romans often wore cloaks clamped at the shoulders so that might be why. The Lorica musculata would definitely only be for officers of sufficient rank and above and of course, male members of the Imperial household, especially the Emperor, since the artistic talent for making it was far above regular armour and it requires more than one Metal in its design(bronze on the outside and steel underneath) . The Praetorians may have worn them as well, since they were much richer than a normal legionary and generally had better equipment(even though the praetorians were more akin to pampered kingmakers/corrupt hereditary political meddlers than actual soldiers. Before they were reformed by Diocletian, the praetorians were almost like quasi nobles, in of themselves)

  • @getlosthighfive2062
    @getlosthighfive20627 жыл бұрын

    sooo, the part where you're introducing the lower body armours... where you re-enacting the common tele-interview method of wearing only the formal shirt?

  • @Molloy244
    @Molloy2447 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron, are you a fan of Rugby? have you been watching the 6 Nations? if so do you think Italy have been unlucky? or have they not played well enough for the full 80 minutes?

  • @Haoddur
    @Haoddur6 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find these beautiful paintings from the beginning of the video?

  • @quinnjdq
    @quinnjdq7 жыл бұрын

    Great video but I feel the lighting is a bit off, it being so low sort of makes you look ghoulish.

  • @robinthrush9672
    @robinthrush96727 жыл бұрын

    Was the game you were talking about at the end Mordor? Because that's pronounced as "more door." As in, "This frame is too large, we need more door to fill it."

  • @TheCrimsonAtom
    @TheCrimsonAtom7 жыл бұрын

    If you can make a longer video with more information and not make another video the day after I would totally accept it, the more information the better :D

  • @Malchus13
    @Malchus137 жыл бұрын

    Difficult to see with the black screen in the back and the lack of camera angle below your solar plexus. Great info though.

  • @roach7336
    @roach73367 жыл бұрын

    I'm not too sure about Roman legionaries, but didn't legates wear bronze shin guards? with the same materiel as the lorica musculata?

  • @20th_century_specter
    @20th_century_specter Жыл бұрын

    Videos LIKE THIS are why I love watching *Metatron*

  • @kodaiyoung
    @kodaiyoung7 жыл бұрын

    Seems that the lorica segmentata is reinforced a lot with the legion formation while the samurai armor was made to work better without a defensive formation.

  • @argalacdurrandon5271
    @argalacdurrandon52717 жыл бұрын

    so,why the centurions wore the gladius on the left side? didn't they took part in the formation?

  • @TheLeala
    @TheLeala6 жыл бұрын

    A thought came to me about waraji and it has been some years since I trained but... but when I trained in Karate in aus (not saying its the fighting style but if this applies there it may apply elsewhere) I remember my feet or more specifically my toes were very rarely in a repose/relaxed/normal position they were either curled in, splayed out and clamping the ground especially the three smaller toes (my foot was in this position at the end or close to the end of every forward attack not to propel me but to stop me where I wanted to stop and it made getting the rest of me to stop in time/on the spot second nature rather then a thought) or curling back with my weight resting on the balls of my feet. Honestly now that I think about it every time I move to the balls of my feet its proceeded by that 3 toe clamp for lack of a better word its very fast and I dont hold the position but its there.... hmmm perhaps this training is why Samurai looked down on those who wore geta because they werent using there toes/moving properly as perhaps there training dictated by simple means of movement.... thoughts?

  • @concussionhead5164
    @concussionhead51646 жыл бұрын

    @Metatron Which would you say is a more effective armour, the lorica segmentata lorica hamata? Of course with the segmentata you could probably just wear chain mail underneath (i am assuming.)

  • @haraldbearclaw1856
    @haraldbearclaw18567 жыл бұрын

    I am probably making this year a 16th century yoroi. There is website that has armor patterns for Japanese armor and I am enough skilled with shaping steel. Only thing that worries me is that I will have huge job finishing armor with lacing, coloring, etc. Opposed to European armor which only needs to be brushed/polished after shaping it.

  • @haraldbearclaw1856

    @haraldbearclaw1856

    7 жыл бұрын

    I will tell you when I finish it haha. I am still looking for the future resting place of this armor. But make no mistake, this armor will be used, this will not be just for a show. I must confess I am still weighing what armor should I make, European or Japanese. Probably in the end it will be European as its maybe easier to make for the beginner. Hardest part is breastplate (also hardest part in yoroi). Helmet is first on my list, than pauldrons and gauntlets, than at end arms and legs. I am not sure if it will be full piece immediately, or over the time I will add more and more parts to it (probably this).

  • @jtknightmare5054
    @jtknightmare50547 жыл бұрын

    Is there a possibility of you getting a sashimono or a Jin baori?

  • @nicoletavidican3474
    @nicoletavidican34747 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Great video! In Romanian, the word for slive is maneca😀

  • @johaneriksandberg
    @johaneriksandberg7 жыл бұрын

    The background is too dark, makes the samurai armor completely disappear.

  • @DatPett
    @DatPett7 жыл бұрын

    Forgive me if i'm wrong but didn't the romans use greaves during the dacian wars? I know it was an exception but it's still worth mentioning.

  • @GoDofKiwiS
    @GoDofKiwiS7 жыл бұрын

    29:04 I read about that in a book and I thought you would not talk about that. @Metatron you are amazing!

  • @raigner
    @raigner7 жыл бұрын

    I found something intetersting, in Mexico sometimes we say "huaraches" to refer to sandals, and the japanese has that kind of sandal called "waraji" which the prounciation is kind of similar...

  • @epicninjaunicornguy
    @epicninjaunicornguy7 жыл бұрын

    Metatron! You never put you finger in the trigger guard until you're ready to fire! Drove me crazy.

  • @DrFoxyNation
    @DrFoxyNation7 жыл бұрын

    can you do a video about roman naval warfare ?

  • @juliusiv4410
    @juliusiv44107 жыл бұрын

    To be Honest +Metatron you deserve more subs then this, good job.

  • @metatronyt

    @metatronyt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @juliusiv4410

    @juliusiv4410

    7 жыл бұрын

    Metatron you're welcome Sir.